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Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

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Just make sure you're picturing this when you read the letters:

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Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

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Badera posted:

Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi BENGHAZI!



I can't tell if that's a parody of right wingers or not.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

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Joementum posted:

Senator Cory Booker was transported back in time to the early 1980s today. He will be missed.



Meanwhile, Lamar! is going to win his primary by double digits and Obama is going to speak to the nation from his dining room later tonight to tell us whether he bombed some folks.

edit: Obama will speak at "9:30".

I just went to the White House streaming website and the placeholder image says "just concluded". ???

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

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Alkydere posted:

I'd write to my Rep Randy "I'm a shithead who tried to demonize park workers for closing the parks when I helped shut down the government" Neugebauer too but I thought only the Senate really mattered for impeachment?

Eh, gently caress it, it's not like the shrill reactionary I'd be trying to impersonate would really care. Open the blood gates, I've got a creative writing assignment this weekend. :hist101:

No, the House matters because they House would bring the charges and then the Senate would not convict, making the House Republicans look like a bunch of petty partisan loonies in a very public way.


Sir Tonk posted:

I've got an advance transcript from next Sunday's Meet The Press:

David Gregory: Senator McCain, the US seems to have re-entered Ira... Senator, is something wrong?

Senator McCain: :gizz:

Please, you know that it's going to be nothing but how it's too little too late and the term "feckless" will appear no fewer than 12 times.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

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FlamingLiberal posted:

So countdown until McCain criticizes Obama for not bombing enough?

No later than Sunday's Meet the Press.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

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Chantilly Say posted:

Remind me why we started naming ships after people who aren't even dead yet?

Well to be fair, HW Bush was a Naval aviator, just like Jimmy Carter was a nuclear sub officer and got a nuclear sub named after him while still alive.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

No, that article is actually poo poo and takes a bunch of generic left-wing talking points and inserts "Fergson" into them.

quote:

2. “DESTROYING ‘YOUR OWN NEIGHBORHOOD’ WON’T HELP.”

I’m not sure how people who make this argument imagine ‘owning’ a neighborhood works, but I’ll try to break it down: we don’t own neighborhoods. Black businesses exist, it’s true. But the emancipation of impoverished communities is not measured in corner-store revenue. It’s not measured in minimum-wage jobs. And no, it’s especially not measured in how many black people are allowed to become police officers. Here is a local discussing why area businesses might have been targeted. White flight really happened. Go look it up. And insinuating that simply because all the white people left certain neighborhoods following desegregation doesn’t mean they are suddenly ‘ours’. This kind of de facto ‘self-determination’ is so short-sighted it makes me wonder how we can even talk about gentrification and segregation usefully if we think black people somehow ‘have all these neighborhoods’. We don’t have ghettos. Ghettos have us. Prisons have us. Sports teams own us. Record labels own us. We don’t have poo poo.

gently caress you. You've never heard of Ferguson before this week and you presume to tell us what it's like. Ferguson isn't 1965 Watts. It isn't East St. Louis. It isn't even Normandy or Kinloch, two of the adjacent communities. Ferguson is not the loving ghetto, it's a blue collar town (median income $37k) with a diverse (1/3 white 2/3 black) population that generally keeps neat clean streets and houses.
There was plenty of "riot shaming" from the people who actually live in this community and do have ownership of their neighborhoods and who don't want legitimate anger at police brutality to be expressed by destroying the community so gently caress off.

There were black kids trapped inside that burning gas station. They escaped, luckily but there is no justification for terrorizing hardworking neighborhood kids who just wanted a decent job.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

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Neo Duckberg posted:

I like how people will immediately draw conclusions off of what the internet says despite not living in St. Louis and not actually being in Ferguson at the time of the riots.

Well there are a lot of black people and they're angry so that's all I, a [left wing resistance blogger/conservative racist] need to know to draw a complete picture.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

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Py-O-My posted:

His Facebook account is gone too, but it looks like the guy is such a genius that he posted this insane racist poo poo under his real name AT THIS EXTREMELY RACIST HATE SITE DO NOT CLICK THE LINK :nws: :nms:

http://www.chimpout.com/forum/showt...l=1#post1102893

racist AND stupid! Our law enforcement, ladies and gentlemen.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

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My Imaginary GF posted:

Yeah, I'm gonna guess there'll be one hell of a riot if public action isn't taken immediately by a non-local agency.

I'm going to agree that he most likely is not a cop after seeing his profiles.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

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queertea posted:

Uhh, I thought it was pretty obvious that's not actually the dude's YouTube profile :confused:

Check the twitter and meetme profiles.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

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zoux posted:

And his jeans.

They were pretty dorky jeans.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

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Magres posted:

Ten miles away is right next to each other everywhere I've ever been.

That's walking distance if you're up for a minor hike.

There's a half dozen towns in between them and an entire world of culture.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

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Jerry Manderbilt posted:

Is Clayton on the super-rich white side of the county while Ferguson is in the mostly black, blue-collar side or something?

Yes,

Neo Duckberg posted:

Correct.

Median income Ferguson: $31,032
College Degree (%) 10.3
Median income Clayton: $62,252
College Degree (%) 70.3

Also from a cultural geography perspective if you make a straight line you go from Ferguson (2/3 black, blue collar) through places like Cool Valley (4/5 black, blue collar), Pagedale (9/10 black, poverty) and Wellston (9/10 black, dodge bullets). So you know, you're welcome to take that stroll or whatever.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

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Joementum posted:

Maybe St. Louis should try a massive, modernist, urban housing project? :shrug:

I got it.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

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Evil Fluffy posted:

What're the open carry laws like in that place?

You can open carry if you have a CCW permit.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

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AmiYumi posted:

The fetishization of "non-violent protest" and "passive resistance" is a blatant enshrinement of "know your place, prole" that I don't even know what to say when people bring it up.

I, too, think it's a great idea for other people to risk their lives while I post on the internet.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

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CharlestheHammer posted:

You can't seriously hold this kind of position without realizing the apparent hypocrisy can you?

I mean you probably can, but you shouldn't.

Though really the fetishing of non violent protests is just kind of a symptom of American Leftism in many ways. Trying to take the high ground, without having to actually do or risk anything.

I've been involved in nonviolent protests; I do not encourage others to protest violently. How is that hypocrisy?

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

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Joementum posted:

Hank Johnson (D-GA) has introduced the Stop Militarizing Law Enforcement Act, which would prevent the transfer of some automatic weapons, armored vehicles, armored drones, silencers and flash-bang or stun grenades to local law enforcement.

Of course, this is a bill sponsored by a House Democrat so it's chances of going anywhere are roughly zero.

Cruz'd that for you

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

I'd like to note that the cop there is chief of St. Louis Police who intentionally kept his force out of this because

quote:

The possibility of having St. Louis Police Department personnel present with the Ferguson Police in what appears to be a racially-charged and possibly discriminating environment could make it appear that the St. Louis Police Department supports racial discrimination and disenfranchisement.
.

He showed up after the change of command authority for the scene.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

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Prester John posted:

So am I reading too much into this or did all the other PD's in the area already know that the County was a bunch of shitheels and would gently caress things up? I mean it seems like none of the other police were too surprised by any of this, and they are almost showboating a bit just to make it sting that much more.

County Chief Jon Belmar got promoted in January so he's relatively new at this and his previous job was as the head of their SWAT division. That did not bode well for a measured response.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

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Pornographic Memory posted:

So I realize we have a Ferguson thread but it seems to be moving pretty fast, so what the hell happened in the last few days? Last I remember there was a street party as the "nice cops" finally took over and then the police came out and said "Michael Brown was a shoplifter look at this security camera footage" and then I guess everything went back to poo poo again...?

Basically, thing calmed down after change of command authority. Then the old command authority intentionally undermined the "good" cop with the robbery video and things got bad. Friday night the Ferguson residents did a pretty good job repelling looters and hooligans but at this point looters, gangs, anarchists, revolutionary communists, black supremacists, and other protesters are flooding the area from all over America. It's past what locals can deal with and the cops (and now Guard) aren't going to be very discriminating between angry but nonviolent protesters and the myriad troublemakers taking advantage of the chaos.

It's bad.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

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rkajdi posted:

The more I see, the more obvious it is to me that the GOP just wants to destroy the government. I have to think that it's related to the demographic shift. Since people who don't look, pray, or gently caress like them are going to possibly get control of the state, why should those people get a functioning superpower when the shift happens?

And of course the rural hill filth that votes for these people looks on anything that starts to resemble a modern state with a mixture of jealousy and fear. So they'll cheer when Rome burns, even though it will come back to screw them over as well.

I think it's simpler than that. The only legitimate government is one that they control 100%. Anything else is illegitimate and must be destroyed.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

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zoux posted:

In fact, they say that they know it's parody, but put it up anyways. I hate the goddamn Tea Party.

Back when Colbert coined "truthiness" I didn't think it would be such a useful word.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

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SirKibbles posted:

Wait. They figured how to get those useless pieces of junk in the air without crashing?

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

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Shifty Pony posted:


The engineering and planning that went into all of it is really impressive. It makes you wonder where we would be as a nation if it had been directed to a more peaceful application.

Taken over by the commies, of course. :clint:

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

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Y-Hat posted:

The New York Times declined to endorse anybody in the Democratic race for New York governor. I'm disappointed that they didn't out-and-out endorse Zephyr Teachout, but I'm not really surprised. Either way, it's a slap to the face for Cuomo. Maybe he'll have to listen to Senate Democrats this time!

For a fascist, racist law-and-order lunatic, Joe Arpaio is actually really loving bad at his job. Here's another example out of what I'm sure are many: the Maricopa County department was the only county in Arizona to lose military-grade weapons from the federal government plan to arm local police departments. Here's the article about the phenomenon as a whole.

He is, however, very good at accomplishing his goals.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

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hobbesmaster posted:

Well you can't write "whorehouse" into a law, children might read the laws!

I seem to recall some state legislature failing to outlaw bestiality because none of the lawmakers were mature enough to write it or debate it.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

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Unzip and Attack posted:

I know it's been said a thousand times but even if all other domestic and foreign policy issues end up being a wash, President Hillary is infinitely preferable to Mitt Romney or [insert shitbag here] because of SCOTUS nominations. If the Court moves any further Right we are well and truly hosed for generations.

When Ginsburg retires, the Court will move further right. A Republican would move it extremely to the right, but Obama nor Hilary will nominate someone as or more liberal than Ginsburg.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

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StandardVC10 posted:

Another case of irresponsible gun ownership. Of course, any legislation that attempts to make gun owners more responsible, will be fought tooth and nail as the long-foretold end of freedom.

quote:

"[The instructor] never should have been off to one side or the other. It's called the 180-degree rule," said Roberts, a weapons instructor from Franklin Township, Gloucester County.

"There's nothing inherently wrong with a 9-year-old shooting [fully automatic weapon]," Roberts said. "It just has to be done under very strictly controlled circumstances."

While Roberts said he didn't want to criticize the deceased instructor, he said there are a number of precautions instructors can take to prevent such an accident.

:911: :911: :911:

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

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fade5 posted:

:wtc: I can understand introducing kids to guns to teach them how they work, safety rules and all that (I think it's a good idea actually, as long you follow all the safety precautions and the kid is okay with it) but why would you ever give a kid a fully automatic weapon?

This, exactly, basically. Seriously, :wtc:.

Let's be honest: unless you are in the military, fully automatic weapons are toys.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

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Amergin posted:

Not necessarily. There's a middle ground between "race isn't a real issue" and "race is THE MAIN real issue". Sharpton drags every topic he wades into towards the latter while most white folks don't deny race is an issue or a contributing factor, it just doesn't have to be the only contributing factor for everything involving people of different races.

Comments sections don't support this.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

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BrandorKP posted:

Any one posted this yet? NYTs today had a chart showing CBO medicare cost projections since 06 and how much they have fallen in the last eight years.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/28/upshot/medicare-not-such-a-budget-buster-anymore.html?_r=0&abt=0002&abg=0

Look at Obamacare, slashing and burning Medicare.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

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StandardVC10 posted:

This is what they're going to say, isn't it.

They already are. It's been a line for a couple years now.

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Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

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Joementum posted:

Yeah, they're talented enough to get hired elsewhere. Weigel and Moody both had fellowships at Reason, Yglesias had one at the American Prospect, Barro at the Manhattan Institute, Friedersdorf interned for Andrew Sullivan.

Andrew Sullivan has interns?

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