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Yeah, the way they're phrasing "Holiday 2015" reeks of serious bullshit. They keep tacking it on there for Tomb Raider in a really noticeable way.
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Miching Mallecho posted:Pre-ordering and pre-downloading is coming to XBOX. Only on Forza! But don't worry, more games to follow!
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cat doter posted:I've figured it out, the next tomb raider is an xbox exclusive because square enix are loving assholes, the reboot sold like 4 million copies but it "fell short of expectations" (their words, even though final fantasy 14 1.0 nearly sunk the company) so they're doing an exclusivity agreement due to risk aversion Funny because Final Fantasy 14 2.0 is by far their most profitable game now.
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Everything about the xbone was hilarious so far but this Tomb Raider thing is kinda bumming me out
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Larry annoys me and The Tomb Raider stupidity by Square is just...disappointing.
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Baller Time posted:Everything about the xbone was hilarious so far but this Tomb Raider thing is kinda bumming me out You'll be playing it for less in 2016
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Aug 12, 2014 14:29
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Kirios posted:Funny because Final Fantasy 14 2.0 is by far their most profitable game now. Well yeah ff14 2.0 is fantastic but it was a pretty clear case of "square enix is in trouble, but it's tomb raider's fault" at the time even though ff14 1.0 was a serious, serious failure
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I misread the £349 as €349  Sony's conference in 3h30m, the Giantbomb crew will be watching/commenting live for those into that sort of thing.
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zenintrude posted:"In Holiday 2015" ImpAtom posted:Yeah, the way they're phrasing "Holiday 2015" reeks of serious bullshit. They keep tacking it on there for Tomb Raider in a really noticeable way. http://tombraider.tumblr.com/post/94529480860/rise-of-the-tomb-raider-update quote:Dear Tomb Raider Community,
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Enter the Larry Hryb autofellatio hour.
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Baller Time posted:Everything about the xbone was hilarious so far but this Tomb Raider thing is kinda bumming me out Don't worry, you'll be able to buy Rise of the Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition exclusively on PS4 in 2016.
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i recently played tomb raider ont the pc and it was a lot of fun and i will have the patience to wait until this part is 5 euros on the pc
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Aug 12, 2014 14:31
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Wow, having that ready to go is hilarious...
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So what is Microsoft paying for tomb raider to actually even be made? A la Nintendo and bayonetta 2?
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Eararaldor posted:Why Tomb Raider of all things? It's probably because Square-Enix wants a partner to subsidize the high costs of developing and advertising the game. When the first Tomb Raider reboot came out, the company burned over $50 million in advertising. They wanted to make Tomb Raider into a key AAA title that they could get out every two years by making the first one into a big hit. It was this record high increase in advertising that ate up most of the game's profits. They probably figure a timed exclusive is better for the sequel since they can have a cash rich partner help them advertise the game. I think a lot of people get upset about exclusives and timed exclusives, especially when it involves Microsoft. However, they have to understand a few things about the nature of developing a modern AAA game. It's incredibly expensive to develop and advertise big budget games. The labor costs are higher than ever. For one thing, development budgets are generally elastic so a game would be smaller in scope or leave DLC on the cutting room floor if it didn't have outside funding. For example, in The Final Hours of Titanfall, it was revealed that the game wasn't coming together fast enough which lead to exclusivity by Microsoft. It was still known as Titan Wars at the time and needed additional development time. However, EA was reluctant to sink more money into the project since they had already spent so much. Even though EA is a rich and powerful publisher, they will naturally have strong years and lean years. It's the nature of the videogame business in that big publishers will have to prepare for bad years. So EA had to bring in a first-party to help fund the title or ship it in the state it was in. It turned out to be Microsoft since the specs for the Xbox One were known and they were willing to fund the game to completion. While it's easy to think SE is stupid for doing this or Microsoft is evil for buying out the competition, the reality is that most games would come to out with a number of compromises and cut features if the publisher was not able to secure outside funding. That's assuming they even get the greenlit. It's a very difficult time for publishers since delays and commercial failures are very costly. These exclusivity deals shouldn't just be seen as a bribe to keep the game off competing platforms (which they still are) but rather a reality of doing business.
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"Let us explain this to you. Now we'll proceed to not explain anything."
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lol at underperforming game now being exclusive to an underperforming console. brilliant move
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The REAL Goobusters posted:So what is Microsoft paying for tomb raider to actually even be made? A la Nintendo and bayonetta 2? I would say it's likely co-funding with microsoft handling the marketing.
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rargphlam posted:Enter the Larry Hryb autofellatio hour. LOOK AT THE WATER!
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Sunning posted:While it's easy to think SE is stupid for doing this or Microsoft is evil for buying out the competition, the reality is that most games would come to out with a number of compromises and cut features if the publisher was not able to secure outside funding. That's assuming they even get the greenlit. It's a very difficult time for publishers since delays and commercial failures are very costly. These exclusivity deals shouldn't just be seen as a bribe to keep the game off competing platforms (which they still are) but rather a reality of doing business. The problem with this argument is that there are plenty of examples of more ambitious multiplatform titles that didn't need to subsidize their launches. It doesn't speak well of Square-Enix if they end up having to do that, much as Titanfall was not really an example of a well-managed game. Seedge posted:When Rise Of Tomb Raider was shown at E3, which conference was it at? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRr8jVrMlJU There was even a PS4 trailer for it. So this exclusivity happened in the past couple of months.
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Seedge posted:When Rise Of Tomb Raider was shown at E3, which conference was it at? Xbox, seems it took time to nail down a timed exclusive.
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MrLonghair posted:Remedy hinted of live demo of Quantum Break coming at least I can't wait to see infamous 4: time stop powers with time stop storyline and see Sony sued by Remedy and Microsoft.
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Aug 12, 2014 14:37
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How much time until the sony conference starts? I need to cook me fuckin dinner.
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Seedge posted:When Rise Of Tomb Raider was shown at E3, which conference was it at? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIQB57sDSmM
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MinibarMatchman posted:lol at underperforming game now being exclusive to an underperforming console. brilliant move This too. Haha it's pretty bad business to not have it on ps4 or pc, but whatever. I didn't play the first one because I just didn't really care about it.
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cat doter posted:How much time until the sony conference starts? I need to cook me fuckin dinner. It's tomorrow.
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ImpAtom posted:It's tomorrow. Ah so it's not the constant stream of conferences like E3? Good.
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ImpAtom posted:It's tomorrow. Wrong. limaCAT posted:Sony: (August 12) 10 AM PDT, 13 PM EST, 18 PM LONDON, 19 PM BERLIN (August 13) 2 AM TOKYO. Well, right in some ways.
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zenintrude posted:Wrong. Huh, my mistake then.
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Despite the marketing speak all signs and sanity point to the next Tomb Raider just being a timed exclusive; the series has always sold more on Playstation, and the PC fanbase has also been there since the start. To completely drop their two most reliable fanbases and go 100% exclusive would be Xbone reveal levels of suicidal stupidity.
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Mman posted:To drop their two most reliable fanbases and go 100% exclusive would be Xbone reveal levels of suicidal stupidity. Yes, Microsoft is dumb with their money.
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Mman posted:Despite the marketing speak all signs and sanity point to the next Tomb Raider just being a timed exclusive; the series has always sold more on Playstation, and the PC fanbase has also been there since the start. To completely drop their two most reliable fanbases and go 100% exclusive would be Xbone reveal levels of suicidal stupidity.
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24 hour clock format and you use PM/AM, gj
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MinibarMatchman posted:lol at underperforming game now being exclusive to an underperforming console. brilliant move Just imagine how much MS must have offered then to make this a worthwhile business move.
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Katana Gomai posted:meanwhile, at Nintendo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnHgEqzKwSI Exclusives are killing gaming, look at all those exclusives! 
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notZaar posted:Just imagine how much MS must have offered then to make this a worthwhile business move. I doubt it will be. Internet gamers realize it's timed, and are willing to wait. We have access to threads that'll stay up, and word of mouth marketing to remind us it exists long after launch. For most of us, March/Junish 2016 isn't that bad of a wait to play TR2. To bad we make up less then 10% of the total gaming population, and the other 90% is dumb as loving rocks. As soon as ads stop playing for TR2, they won't know it exists, and when it sneaks out a year later, none of them will want to buy it because of xyz other game they are playing. That's if Microsoft/SE are even willing to run another strip of ads for it's 2016 multiplatform launch ( haha no, it's just going to show up on shelves all of a sudden. ). TR2 will sell worse then TR1, even when it goes multiplatform, and SE will use it as an excuse to kill Crystal/the reboots.
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So is the Microsoft conference over now?
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