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Its Miller Time
Dec 4, 2004

It Might be worth comparing 2015 futures lines with FO's Super Bowl odds.

Quickly calculating the implied probabilities from my sportsbook leads me to think GB and CHI would be the best value for the 2015 Super Bowl.

Its Miller Time fucked around with this message at 22:59 on Aug 27, 2014

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Its Miller Time
Dec 4, 2004

I like a few overs:

Packers Seahawks 47.5
Raiders Jets 40
Panthers Bucs 39.5
Titans Chiefs 43.5

I think the Raiders, Jets, Panthers, Bucs, Titans and Chiefs are all teams whose offensive talent is underestimated by Vegas. Plus the illegal contact rule change.

Its Miller Time
Dec 4, 2004

Someone tell me why Patriots -4.5 @ Dolphins isn't free money?

Its Miller Time
Dec 4, 2004

As a UCLA fan, I can tell you the 20pt spreads they're putting up for us on lovely teams seem to be good value (in taking the other team). Also

supercrooky posted:

Vegas wasn't built on giving away free money. There is plenty of money on the other side of that bet, and it doesn't look like its coming from recreational bettor types. Enough to move the line in the opposite direction.

Home underdogs are historically undervalued. It's going to be 90 and humid on Sunday.

Miami was a decent team last year despite a horrific O-line, this year the line will be significantly better. If Ryan Tannehill doesn't spend half the season on his back, he has the potential to be a solid QB (like he showed last year, beating the Patriots in Miami in week 15).

This guy knew what he was talking about.

Decided to start tracking my single bets for fun this year.

What analysis do you guys use to help you bet? I really liked the FO odds, where they analyzed the game and came up with their spreads. I rode their call that the Carolina line was wrong big last week. The Supercontest bets also seem to be helpful. Also the FBG article each week:

quote:

BEST BETS

Once again this year I will give not only the "Best Bets" but also a rating of each one on a 1-3 "Star" scale. The more stars, the more I like that side of the game.

* ONE STAR GAMES *

(Thursday) BALTIMORE (-2.5) vs. PITTSBURGH
MIAMI (+1) at BUFFALO
DETROIT (+3) at CAROLINA
DETROIT (“FOR THE WIN” +130) at CAROLINA
NEW ORLEANS (-6) at CLEVELAND
ARIZONA (-1.5) at NEW YORK GIANTS
TENNESSEE (-3.5) vs. DALLAS
JACKSONVILLE (+6) at WASHINGTON
JACKSONVILLE (“FOR THE WIN” +225) at WASHINGTON
HOUSTON (-2.5) at OAKLAND
(Monday) PHILADELPHIA (“FOR THE WIN” +150) at INDIANAPOLIS

6-POINT TEASER: SAN FRANCISCO (-1) vs. CHICAGO (OVER 42.5)

6-POINT TEASER: (Monday) PHILADELPHIA (+9.5) at INDIANAPOLIS (OVER 47)

3-TEAM, 6-POINT TEASER (9-5 ODDS):
NEW ORLEANS (EVEN) at CLEVELAND
CINCINNATI (+1) vs. ATLANTA
SEATTLE (+0.5) at SAN DIEGO

4-TEAM, 6-POINT TEASER (3-1 ODDS):
NEW ORLEANS (EVEN) at CLEVELAND
CINCINNATI (+1) vs. ATLANTA
SEATTLE (+0.5) at SAN DIEGO
SAN FRANCISCO (-1) vs. CHICAGO

5-TEAM, 6-POINT TEASER (5-1 ODDS):
NEW ORLEANS (EVEN) at CLEVELAND
CINCINNATI (+1) vs. ATLANTA
SEATTLE (+0.5) at SAN DIEGO
SAN FRANCISCO (-1) vs. CHICAGO
GREEN BAY (-2) vs. NEW YORK JETS

6-TEAM, 6-POINT TEASER (7-1 ODDS):
NEW ORLEANS (EVEN) at CLEVELAND
CINCINNATI (+1) vs. ATLANTA
SEATTLE (+0.5) at SAN DIEGO
SAN FRANCISCO (-1) vs. CHICAGO
GREEN BAY (-2) vs. NEW YORK JETS
HOUSTON (+3.5) at OAKLAND

** TWO STAR GAMES **

None this week.

*** THREE STAR GAMES ***

None this week.

PICKS OF THE WEEK: Baltimore, Miami, Detroit, New Orleans, Arizona, Houston, Tennessee, Jacksonville

Its Miller Time fucked around with this message at 20:28 on Sep 10, 2014

Its Miller Time
Dec 4, 2004

What do you guys use to watch lines move besides your eyes?

Its Miller Time
Dec 4, 2004

Who was the goony rear end guy who was like "good sir why would you take the bears +7". Saw 90% of public on Niners and did pure contrarian play. 2 units on ML 2 on spread.

Its Miller Time
Dec 4, 2004

Re: Pron taking Bears +7

SD87 posted:

good sir, can you please explain the rationale behind this pick?

Vegas is smarter than you. The line moving or the vast majority of the public getting on one side is often a good sign there's value in the contrarian pick.

This has been a roller coaster start. Put aside your old notions about teams and look at how they've done recently.

Its Miller Time fucked around with this message at 16:35 on Sep 15, 2014

Its Miller Time
Dec 4, 2004

We setup a thread for daily fantasy football stuff in the fantasy section if you wanna check it out, though it's slow going. Would prefer to keep this betting on real sports.

Its Miller Time
Dec 4, 2004

See a few lines I really like for teasers

Bears +1.5 vs. GB
Colts -7.5 vs. Titans
Steelers -7.5 vs. Bucs

Also, a parlay of:
Eagles +190 ML
Over 51 -110

Pays +450.

Its Miller Time fucked around with this message at 18:33 on Sep 25, 2014

Its Miller Time
Dec 4, 2004

Ozu posted:

Aaron Schatz is getting a bit testy over FO's spread picks.



How do you miss commenting on the fact their #1 spread pick is that Washington is undervalued vs. Seattle by 5 points.

Also at 10% juice you need to be right 52.6% of the time to break even.

I like a lot of lines this week.

Bears @ Car +2.5
Bengals @ Pat -1.5
Eagles vs. Rams -7
Chargers vs. Jets -7

Its Miller Time fucked around with this message at 22:48 on Oct 3, 2014

Its Miller Time
Dec 4, 2004

Ucla 2nd H

Its Miller Time
Dec 4, 2004

Eagles by 6 is going to kill me.

Its Miller Time
Dec 4, 2004

Put a lot of my bankroll on Broncos -8. As a Jets fan it gives me no great pleasure...

Call me crazy but I also like OAK at home +7 and even a small amount on the ML. Lightning can't strike twice though, can it?

Lost a bet $20 to win $125 parlay on Chargers, Seahawks and Eagles last week by 1.5 points in the Eagles score (won by 6, had -7).

Its Miller Time fucked around with this message at 21:37 on Oct 9, 2014

Its Miller Time
Dec 4, 2004

Ozu posted:

This is an emotional hedge so good work there. But if the Jets cover and still lose then that really sucks. :smith:

If we lose by less than 8 to the Broncos I will consider it a moral victory.

Its Miller Time
Dec 4, 2004

Colts -2.5 feels like a steal.

Its Miller Time
Dec 4, 2004

Got my eyes on some overs this week

Bengals Colts 50
Dolphins Bears 49
Panthers Packers 49
Saints Lions 48.5
Giants Cowboys 48.5
49ers Broncos 50

Its Miller Time
Dec 4, 2004

Tonight

Jets Pats Under 45. Supposed to rain, both teams are anemic.

Its Miller Time
Dec 4, 2004

I got killed this weekend in NFL.

Its Miller Time
Dec 4, 2004

Steadily lost a few hundred over the season.

Bet it all on the Colts a week or two ago.

Risk management schmanagement.

edit: Took some underdog money lines

Texans @ Browns +150
Vikings @ Bears +140
Giants vs. 49ers +177

Its Miller Time fucked around with this message at 01:54 on Nov 13, 2014

Its Miller Time
Dec 4, 2004

zapplez posted:

IND Colts by 13-18 @ +2000
$25.00 Single 01/18/2015 15:24:51 25.00 0.00
IND Colts by 6 or more @ +475
$25.00 Single 01/18/2015 15:24:51 25.00 0.00
Daniel Herron (IND Colts) @ +850
$50.00 Single 01/18/2015 15:23:41 50.00 0.00
T.Y Hilton (IND Colts) @ +1000
$50.00 Single 01/18/2015 15:23:41 50.00 0.00
IND Colts Yes @ +700
$50.00 Single 01/18/2015 15:23:41 50.00 0.00
IND Colts -2.5 @ +280
$100.00 Single 01/18/2015 15:18:48 100.00 0.00
IND Colts @ +260
$100.00 Single 01/18/2015 15:18:48 100.00 0.00

In retrospect, kinda ambitious.

Its Miller Time
Dec 4, 2004

Looking towards next week:

Steelers are -2 @ Rams
Chargers +2.5 @ Vikings
Jets -2.5 at home vs. Eagles
Colts -3.5 @ Titans

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Its Miller Time
Dec 4, 2004

Post your favorite Super Bowl props! I quickly threw these together and realize many might be terrible, but it's all for fun.

First panthers touchdown is Cam Newton +450
Last scoring play will be Panthers pass +350
Panthers score 1st and win game +125
First scoring play is Panthers pass TD +300
CJ Anderson is player to score first TD +1100
CJ Anderson is player to score last TD +1100
Broncos D/ST is player to score last TD +2000
Fozzy Whittaker scores a TD +1000
Broncos D/ST scores a TD +300
Panthers win by 11-13, 14-17 or 18-21 points +1000, +800 and +1200
There will be a missed XP +290
Someone will score in last 3.5 minutes -160
No team will score 3 times in a row without other team scoring +145
Panthers -6 -110

I thought "Panthers score 1st and win game" (+125) was good given the defensive nature of the Broncos. Along those lines, given how well the defense is playing I also liked "Broncos D/ST scores a TD" (+300). I'm probably wrong but I also thought there was value in "No team will score 3 times in a row without other team scoring" (+145 ).

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