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Oh look at that an OGs LP, Godspeed you crazy person.Montegoraon posted:Yeah. Atlus USA is superlative for its faithful translation, but back then their marketing division was staffed by a snowman in tennis shoes and nobody else. Kyosuke's accident happens as part of his backstory, so basically no named character does it IIRC. Impact is post-Zeta so there's only a few Titans left anyway. In fact, by stage 1 he already has his signature mech and is assigned to Londo Bell alongside the NT-Alex, Dancougar, and some Gundam mooks. There is no explanation behind this but they try to lampshade it with Bright scratching his head at the federation sending him the prototypes unfit for mass production. Compact/Impact weren't particularly inspired games. e: You know how SRW often improves the plot of the shows that appear in it? OG vastly improves the plot of the originals it features... Unless you're the cast of SRW R. The R Originals got the shaft pretty badly in OGs. GimmickMan fucked around with this message at 07:36 on Aug 12, 2014 |
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Ingram Prisken. And he's not evil, he just has a problem with making smug faces at people. And a recurring problem with creepy masked alien guys too. And also a problem with manipulating people and... Look, being pretty isn't easy, okay?
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OG puts a lot of emphasis on Kyo and Excy's wacky sitcom hijinx. Their routine may get old after a while, but it is still infinitely better than how they started. As Seyzer explained, they were both protagonists of a game split into three parts, with one of them in Earth and the other in space. This meant you had each half of this comedy duo alone for thirty stages wondering what the other was up to. Then you had them together for like 5-10 stages before the plot steals one of them away for another 10 stages. I'll take their OG versions over that any day of the week.
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MarsDragon posted:I like Rai and Aya, though I'm feeling that will be an unpopular opinion in this thread. I used to like Kyosuke and Excellen, then they just got overexposed, and the last one was always dull as dirt. Especially how they changed him from the original story. (but that's a spoiler and a half) You are not alone, Kyosuke is a lot better as a side character than a protagonist. I mean it is kind of telling that the expies of him and Excellen in the Bamco multiverse are more interesting main characters than the real deal. But we'll have time to talk about that when we get to the plot of Compact 2/Impact in like... One or two years. 
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Genius runs in the family.
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Alpha 3 features Viletta and the same idiot! So this is pretty much the only time we see the beginnings of the SRX team as far as I know. Despite being Banpresto's flagship originals (Ryusei's theme starts with the Banpresto jingle!) we never got to see them trying to get along until the OG series. Kinda weird, considering they showed up in a bunch of games before. GimmickMan fucked around with this message at 09:51 on Aug 18, 2014 |
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Guy Fawkes posted:Not holes: in the manga the suit is shown to be integral but with transparent elements. This is almost even worse. Good grief.
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It just stood out to me that they went the extra mile in designing the suit not just for fanservice but also for realistic fanservice damnit!
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All the default avatar changes are making it really hard to keep track of posters. Not usually a big deal but following the OP is kind of important to this subforum.
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You know how Tenzan is always talking about videogames? Rumor is that is how Ryusei used to be in his first appearance in Shin SRW. They made him far less insufferable by Alpha, and it was the Alpha version that got his origin story in OG. Also because I completely forgot to talk about the previous mission: The moment I discovered you could make The Sword that Smites Evil your main character I realized I was going to have to mod a PS2 to play Alpha 2.
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Silvergun1000 posted:Yeah, the Alt really is a cool design. I have a few friends who had a lot of fun with OG1 but didn't like OG2 as much for this reason. I probably would not have liked OG1 as much as I did if it wasn't the odd duck of the SRW franchise in having its giant robots kinda sorta make sense and pacing itself decently unlike your average SRW series. With that said, I get the feeling that they just work with what they have, some of the SRW games they adapt have originals that try to keep things sensible, while others are complete bullshit. The Ashsaber is a lot less absurd than the AngelG, but there is a world of difference between both of those and Ialdabaoth.
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Psybuster is a little weird but it beats Cybaster and it definitely beats Cyberstar. Original mecha sometimes have really weird localized names. This stage is when the game officially gets fun. You get your first taste of absurd bosses (did you see what the Granzon just did?), mid-stage cutscenes that shake up the battlefield, and A Whole Lot of Stuff Happening all at once storywise. SRW thrives on these, so I hope you like what just happened there. Also it is nice that Ryusei basically grows out of the Scrappy Doo phase so early in the game. Even better to see the way OGs goes about tweaking his character in general. Thank you for sharing the new story bits that OGs added, Seyzer.
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This was at the exact same time he said SRW Z would not have many secrets (it does, in fact, have an absurd amount of secrets) or that (Stage 36 or so spoilers) the good guys would not fight each other. So basically take his words with a truckload of salt.
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Onmi posted:Probably because it's just words and he keeps a very calm face. He never gets the super lecherous old man face or start groping girls. He... well he looks classy doing it and it's never overplayed to be creepy. The entire Hiryu is MEANT to be the Nadesico what with the Gravity Gun and the rookie captain (And all the pilots sans one being loving mental) but it's different enough that you wouldn't notice if you didn't think about it. ...I never thought about the Nadesico thing. Holy crap it makes sense. Anyhow this stage is cool but it does not hold a candle to Ryu's, even with the OGs treatment of added scenes and New Mysterious Enemies(tm). This is sadly a recurring trend that will last until the end of OG1 itself, because this is Ryu's game basically. So Katina, Katina is cool too. But something changed about her between the GBA games and OGs...  ...The color of her right eye. Yes, in the GBA games it was clearly red, but ever since OGs it is purple. Maybe purple was always the original color and the GBA games got it wrong, but who knows why they changed it.  Also she's kind of really different from her original Scramble Gather version, but that talk is better reserved for a later time when said differences come to the front.
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FredMSloniker posted:...I guess I should have asked for name and series. I haven't actually watched all that much giant robot, and just a name isn't enough for me to look up info. The problem with doing this is that some of the references would be huge spoilers, because several originals like to pretend they are one thing then they turn out to be something else entirely. We have already seen many characters who are this. Rest assured someone will cover the references though, this thread has so much trouble staying off the spoilers that once we clear the official reveals we won't waste a chance to gush about our favorite animes. 
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Seyser Koze posted:Personally I'm not a great fan of rushing to pigeonhole every character as really being some other character from a different series, because then the tendency is to view everything they do as "okay, we just had the scene where he met a new lady friend on shore leave, next will obviously be the scene where she turns out to be an experimental test subject wandered away from the lab and they'll fight and then he has to kill her JUST LIKE IT HAPPENED ON GUNDAM XYZ" instead of interpreting events based on what's actually happening. I agree. It is weird that people would rather judge characters based on how they fit preconceptions rather than by what said characters actually do, doubly so for SRW which is known for fixing and improving existing plots. I do think that seeing some of the parallels let you appreciate some originals in a new light though. It is worth a comment or two at least, like the thing with Irm. GimmickMan fucked around with this message at 17:29 on Aug 30, 2014 |
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edit: There were spoilers here because I thought this was the general SRW thread. Whoops. Sooooooo how about them robots? I like the ones with the rocket punches. GimmickMan fucked around with this message at 01:44 on Sep 2, 2014 |
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Onmi posted:Thomas appears again? THOMAS APPEARED BEFORE?! Thomas is one of the most competent low-key original antagonists in SRW, I was disappointed when he just apparently vanished into the ether of OG. But it turns out he was a Masoukishin character all along and he gets to butt heads with the Langran folks. 
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It is no Alt or R-1, but the Wildschwein is pretty good and one of the better second-tier units. After Ingram gets a better mech, it becomes the ideal machine for someone like Bullet or, Terada forbid, even Giado.
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There is usually at least one scene per game where Ryu surprises you saying something surprisingly mature for a guy who supposedly only knows about super robots. Banpresto is pretty good at walking the line between "predictable cliche" and "actually interesting" but it is most obvious if you pay attention to the SRX team.
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At least they didn't call it KillerWhaleDC. This stage is cool. It is not particularly engaging but it makes you use your battleship (which is actually a fairly decent unit for this first chunk of OG1) and it is easy/fast enough that the gimmick doesn't overstay its welcome.
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Seyser Koze posted:So basically, in the remake the writers managed to develop Kusuha's character further while reducing her screentime. Sounds like a win-win to me. I'll admit, I laughed.
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Yeah, that's what I thought SK was saying as a sort of backhanded compliment. Latooni is honestly one of the better characters introduced in OG1, but this part is as gently caress.
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I forgot how badly Kyo's route beat into your head the true meaning of this fight.
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The Valsion's BGM is very repetitive but I'll be damned if it doesn't fit how the thing looks like an overdesigned 80's OVA final boss.
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This mission is kind of annoying but I like the story bits enough to not mind the gameplay too much. I like the new addition of Ryu going after Rai's data first, it is a nice touch. They really improved his storyline quite a bit in OGs.
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This part is pretty fun, exploring the space colony side of the OGverse and getting to know Brian is part of what makes OG1 feel like a Gundam show with super robots.
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I distinctively remember the unupgraded Hagane in OG1 GBA being my second best artillery platform (after the upgraded Schutzwald) for the first half of the game. After that you get many good sniper units, but it can still pull its weight even without upgrades. I expected all battleships to be that strong in other non-OG games as well. Going from that to the Argama and other traditional Gundam battleships in the regular games was a big disappointment.
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I'm a fan of Z2-1 because it has the better halves of many shows, it is fairly difficult to get all the skill points/battle masteries and gameplay wise it doesn't have squad systems of any sort. It also has tighter writing and pacing than many SRW games for a good chunk of it, like OG1 as well. Alpha 1 and Alpha 3 are a really good start and ending to an epic storyline. MX and W both are full of good scenes, the gameplay is simple and replay-friendly but they're also too easy to have any kind of challenge with them. A portable is challenging in a way that alternates between frustrating and a puzzle that does not present a challenge after you've solved it, but the final few stages are infuriating and only the very final stage can be said to have the right balance. It is a fantastic final stage but it does not justify 30+ stages of the rest. GimmickMan fucked around with this message at 13:19 on Nov 28, 2014 |
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Like many others I always gave the Raubtier to Latooni, so I want to see Ryoto in it now. Giado in the Lion and Rio in the Huck sounds cool too. Aya needs her TT back.
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Seyser Koze posted:If there are no vehement objections, I'm probably going to start leaning more towards summary when describing mowing down the grunts from now on, unless something noteworthy happens. In my experience, reading pages and pages of "and then he shot somebody, and then she shot somebody, and then..." tends to make your eyes glaze over after a while. That's fine. Around the midgame SRW gameplay stops being worth commenting outside of the highlights with individual groups of annoying enemy formations or difficult terrain and the such.
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I had no idea Wakamoto voiced Maier, now I kind of regret never doing the PS2 version of Kyo's route. I always thought Wakamoto would have been a great fit for Bian, oddly enough. Give Katina and Russel the R-Gun and the Giganscudo. They fit them pretty well.
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Eita is a pretty minor character but when he does get screentime he is such an endearing dork. 
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To be fair to Broken Loose, Katina is more of a sniper in OG1, it wasn't until later that she got tweaked into a meleeist.
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Most of the cast gets the rest in trouble by rushing ahead at some point. Katina is just the worst at it and it happens as part of her introduction if you're playing Ryusei's route. I like Katina and all but she does not make a good first impression.
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CmdrKing posted:SRX vs ATX Let me put it this way: I am somewhat lukewarm on Rai and Aya because they don't do much outside of their (merely okay) character arcs, but at least I cared about them while said arcs were happening. With Kyosuke and Excellen I've been lukewarm on them the entire time through OG1 and OG2 because they have some cool/funny lines every now and then but that's all they do. Then they started to hog the spotlight and it was all downhill from there. I think it comes down to first impressions. First impressions are strong, and the first time you play through OG1 you will clearly think better of one side rather than the other. Both routes are very different storylines early on and the other half of the OG1 cast seems to clash with the rest of the story you've been reading until then. While Ryuse's route features classic super robot anime antics and character arcs with a group of douchey teens learning to work together as a team. Kyosuke's route in general has more appeal to western gamers, with less focus on character arcs and more on fighting uphill both ways with janky mechs piloted by a cast who specialize in sick burns. Then the routes converge and you get stuck with a bunch of characters who seem like they don't belong in the game you're playing. When you have to make your choice at the beginning of GBA OG1 you can pretty much tell which one is for you just from the character designs of Ryusei and Kyosuke alone.
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AradoBalanga posted:That would require suffering through Advance, and I'd rather get run over by a runaway freight train before doing that. I could go over those, because for some reason I really like A and A Portable and I've beaten them twice each. That's basically the same game four times. 
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That last scene is why, even though I forgot about generic dickbags like Siebel after my first playthrough, Thomas stuck to memory. The guy is genre-savvy enough to know this is going to end badly for the DC and bails, denying you the satisfaction of doing him in. I kept waiting for him to show up again during all of OG2 and OGG but he wasn't dumb enough to join any of the bad guy factions. I wanted Ryoto to have his revenge. 
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Voting to give the Valsion Kai to Garnet in Ryusei's route and Russel in Kyosuke's. I don't dislike this middle chunk of the game per se, but I'm glad that we're starting the third arc of OG1 at last.
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I miss Masaki bumming Ryusei out by nonchalantly pointing out the secret of the R-Series units was obvious. I seriously really liked those two lines.
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