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Kajeesus posted:My favorite part was how it had some browns being embarassed by the hipster's tolerance at the end. It's not racist if we show a brown agreeing with us, right? It's like how the KKK has a public statement that there's niggers and there's cool black people and they only hate the former. You drat leftie loons can't argue with that. NRK isn't as politicized and left wing as our dear SVT, it's hilarious that they did a documentary Hjernevask about what bullshit gender science is that SVT has refused to show. It would be nice to have some balance in the public service like they have in Norway, but seeing what poo poo the entire "public service" is in Sweden it should just be sold out. Postorder Trollet89 posted:Yeah, ok. Pump it up! Do it! fucked around with this message at 17:48 on Jan 27, 2016 |
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Gender studies is a branch of sociology but I guess you're too cool for that.
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Postorder Trollet89 posted:Gender studies is a branch of sociology but I guess you're too cool for that. It certainly is but the bullshit that we call " gender science" here in Sweden goes against other hard sciences like biology and evolutionary psychology. You should really watch Hjernevask and see what kind of bullshit it is, but I guess you don't like things that go against your politics! Just like our "public service" that refuses to show the documentary and turns a blind eye towards left-wingers while anyone right of S are scrutinized.
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Biomute posted:Sure, it can be seen as a "hey look, left-wingers are silly" piece just as Kringkastingsrådet asked for, but it's not necessarily a "left-wingers are silly because all brown people are evil" piece. It touches on how male voices might throw women under the bus to suit their political worldview for sure, but only immature idiots with their context from 4chan would see that as "cucking" as if women were objects to be stolen. It also points out how some left-wing hipsters might very well have no clue, as evidenced by the hipster in question interacting with the Sikh sitting next to him. Did you check the youtube channel it was uploaded from? e: Because it's basically youtube slash channel slash islamophobia GlennFinito fucked around with this message at 17:57 on Jan 27, 2016 |
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Lord Tywin posted:NRK isn't as politicized and left wing as our dear SVT, it's hilarious that they did a documentary Hjernevask about what bullshit gender science is that SVT has refused to show. It would be nice to have some balance in the public service like they have in Norway, but seeing what poo poo the entire "public service" is in Sweden it should just be sold out. Balance of what? Journalism to bigotry and anti-intellectualism? Because that Refugee video does not make me think that Norwegian media are balanced in any good way. E: Lord Tywin posted:It certainly is but the bullshit that we call " gender science" here in Sweden goes against other hard sciences like [...] evolutionary psychology. Ohh, now I get it. Zulily Zoetrope fucked around with this message at 18:27 on Jan 27, 2016 |
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Lord Tywin posted:It certainly is but the bullshit that we call " gender science" here in Sweden goes against other hard sciences like biology and evolutionary psychology.  Lord Tywin posted:You should really watch Hjernevask and see what kind of bullshit it is, but I guess you don't like things that go against your politics! Just like our "public service" that refuses to show the documentary and turns a blind eye towards left-wingers while anyone right of S are scrutinized. Or the documantary in question could be bunk and SVT made a good call in maintaining some journalistic standards. Since the only evidence we have WRT its quality is your say-so, this seems at least as likely as some vast, leftwing conspiracy. Besides that it's pretty funny how you immediately fall back on preemptive accusations of dogmatic bias in others while ranting about how SVT is a den of reds.
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Kajeesus posted:I would not in a million years expect that joke from the kind of person who would produce that video, but I even saw a couple of YouTube comments come to the same conclusion. I'll grant that that is indeed the joke and that I genuinely underestimated the nuance present in this lovely racist video. *Not just tolerating.
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Lord Tywin posted:It certainly is but the bullshit that we call " gender science" here in Sweden goes against other hard sciences like biology and evolutionary psychology. You should really watch Hjernevask and see what kind of bullshit it is, but I guess you don't like things that go against your politics! Just like our "public service" that refuses to show the documentary and turns a blind eye towards left-wingers while anyone right of S are scrutinized. Hjernevask was poo poo and it was embarrassing watching a childhood hero arguing that black people are dumber than white people.
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GlennFinito posted:Did you check the youtube channel it was uploaded from? How is that relevant? The original source is a state-owned newspaper that is often accused of being too left-wing. Mostly these cartoons have made fun of the right, so it's no surprise that a more ambiguous (or lovely) piece is being re-blogged by assholes. We see a lot of that kind of thing because the state owned outlets are expected to provide a "balanced" range of views (give a voice to everyone), even if those views are pretty lovely. I really do think they're trying to do the Charlie Hebdo thing and being irreverent and edgy leftists, but I'm not denying that the end result is unfunny crap. thotsky fucked around with this message at 18:49 on Jan 27, 2016 |
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Biomute posted:How is that relevant? The original source is a state-owned newspaper that is often accused of being too left-wing. Mostly these cartoons have made fun of the right, so it's no surprise that a more ambiguous (or lovely) piece is being re-blogged by assholes. We see a lot of that kind of thing because the state owned outlets are expected to provide a "balanced" range of views (give a voice to everyone), even if those views are pretty lovely. I really do think they're trying to do the Charlie Hebdo thing and being irreverent and edgy leftists, but I'm not denying that the end result is unfunny crap. If you're referring to this:  "Boko Harams sex slaves are pissed" "Don't touch our welfare!" It's them poking fun at the rantings from parties like Front Nationale in France. But then again, thats pretty easy to see. And for you, Tywin, it means that a sex-slavery induced pregnancy is not a voulantary condition with any woman and that these people are not "in it" for the welfare cheque. That clip on the other hand might as well have been made as a 4chan gif. I don't see alot of leftists defending the sexual harssment in Cologne as "cultural exchanges", it's not even offensive, it's just lame.
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Like they have to occasionally have to say "hey, don't be a dick, that dude isn't Muslim, so don't blame him for terrorism!" Are you suggesting that blaming someone for terrorism on the ground of them being Muslim is a reasonable thing to do? 
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Biomute posted:How is that relevant? The original source is a state-owned newspaper that is often accused of being too left-wing. Mostly these cartoons have made fun of the right, so it's no surprise that a more ambiguous (or lovely) piece is being re-blogged by assholes. We see a lot of that kind of thing because the state owned outlets are expected to provide a "balanced" range of views (give a voice to everyone), even if those views are pretty lovely. I really do think they're trying to do the Charlie Hebdo thing and being irreverent and edgy leftists, but I'm not denying that the end result is unfunny crap. I suppose me not knowing the original source and looking at the channel it was uploaded for context from meant I took it differently. I suppose you could see the problematic ally-racism and cultural ignorance of the main character of the skit but to me it's perry bible fellowship levels of interpretation.
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http://www.5080.no/2016/01/twitrere-kritiske-ny-charlie-hebdo-tegning-verken-morsom-eller-om-muhammed/ Fluff, its (probably) ages until next election in any of our glorious scandinations, so could you please just  the thread until its appropriate to have it reopened?
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Potrzebie posted:Are you suggesting that blaming someone for terrorism on the ground of them being Muslim is a reasonable thing to do? Truck Stop Daddy posted:[Fluff, its (probably) ages until next election in any of our glorious scandinations, so could you please just A Buttery Pastry fucked around with this message at 20:51 on Jan 27, 2016 |
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Xoidanor posted:There's a big difference between paying off your mortgage, which is financially sound risk-mitigation and diversification, to having your house, a highly illiquid and fluctuating asset which you live in, being your only savings. But that's kinda the norm unless you're superrich though? Most people cannot afford to have stocks, bonds, trust funds AND loans on a house. if they do have a sizeable chunk of change they plonk it down as a downpayment on their hous to reduce the size of the massive loving loan they need to take from the bank (at admittadly low interest...for now).
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I'll go one furtherLord Tywin posted:goes against other hard sciences like biology HAHAHA, what's a fish?
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A Buttery Pastry posted:What does elections have to do with anything? the thread is poo poo when its running on fumes/endless immigration discourse
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Dude, did you read the rest of the sentence? Plus I explicitly call them racist in the sentence before that one too. The whole point is that these people think that that is being reasonable and "not racist", while lashing out at every type of foreigner is the hallmark of real racists, who are unsophisticated boors who don't have the brainpower to distinguish between good (Sikh) and bad (Muslim) foreigners. I read your whole post, but did not understand 
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McCloud posted:But that's kinda the norm unless you're superrich though? Most people cannot afford to have stocks, bonds, trust funds AND loans on a house. if they do have a sizeable chunk of change they plonk it down as a downpayment on their hous to reduce the size of the massive loving loan they need to take from the bank (at admittadly low interest...for now). Which is why we are hosed when the bubble pops. Nevertheless, an educated economist and national minister of finance should know better.
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Truck Stop Daddy posted:the thread is poo poo when its running on fumes/endless immigration discourse Potrzebie posted:I read your whole post, but did not understand
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One side is so incompetent they couldn't fold an umbrella and the other, while marginally more capable, aren't able to do anything but malice. I hate politics.
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Xoidanor posted:Which is why we are hosed when the bubble pops. Nevertheless, an educated economist and national minister of finance should know better. I'm pretty sure she's well aware of this, the problem is stopping it without risking a neo-liberal fueled "anti-buissness" witchhunt in the media and loosing votes. Raising taxes, removing these retarded RUT/ROT deductions and tightening up the requirements on new housing loans coupled with pouring money into cheap rentals would be halfway to fixing the probolem in like 3 years.
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LOL http://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/tiotusentals-asylsokande-ska-avvisas It is interesting how the winds have changed, 6 months ago these statements would have been politically impossible. Probably we will bribe Afghanistan to take back their underage asylum seekers, ironically putting them in a worse situation since a lot started off from living in Iran. Truck Stop Daddy posted:the thread is poo poo when its running on fumes/endless immigration discourse Oh, like the other Scandithread also does? Don't make me come there, it makes GBS look good. Also, an excerpt from Flashback dedicated to TheFluff. A slight difference from the one liners in this thread. Nota Bene: I don't care or support the views below, it is just an example regarding a dude TheFluff have posted about in this thread. Flashback posted:Jag vänder mig mot den onyanserade bilden av vänstern i tråden. Anti-globalismen och protektionismen finns kvar inom rörelsen, vilket jag exemplifierade ovan med en ledare i Proletären om behovet av förstärkta gränskontroller. Greider har knappast hittat en väg ur paradigmet utan börjar snarare återgå till den ursprungliga ideologin inom den vänsterfalang han själv representanter.
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Postorder Trollet89 posted:I'm pretty sure she's well aware of this, the problem is stopping it without risking a neo-liberal fueled "anti-buissness" witchhunt in the media and loosing votes. Raising taxes, removing these retarded RUT/ROT deductions and tightening up the requirements on new housing loans coupled with pouring money into cheap rentals would be halfway to fixing the probolem in like 3 years. We were talking about her private finances. dangerdoom volvo posted:det här landet är en jävla skam Vi är fortfarande bättre än dansken 
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Xoidanor posted:Vi är fortfarande bättre än dansken
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V. Illych L. posted:i agree with biomute re: that nrk piece I disagree 
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Lord Tywin posted:It certainly is but the bullshit that we call " gender science" here in Sweden goes against other hard sciences like biology and evolutionary psychology alright, how would you define gender biologically? by genitals? then what about intersex (hermaphrodites)? and do eunuchs stop being "male" simply because their genitals are removed? by chromosome pairs? then what about XXX, XXY, XYY, and all other wonderful chromosome aneuploidies? ulvir fucked around with this message at 13:18 on Jan 28, 2016 |
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Weren't you sending a bunch of asylum seekers back to like, Afghanistan, instead of the countries they stayed in prior to going to Europe? Your actions as a country might have given more people a place to stay, but you're also going to be putting a lot more people in an even worse situation than before they went to Sweden. The Danish policy of "Stay away, or we'll send you back to be executed" is clearly the more humane option, as we're not the country currently planning to send 80,000 people back to be executed. Expelling failed asylum seekers is hardly a new policy. e: Although the press (both foreign and domestic) treating it as such is surely a victory for Ygeman. He's playing them (and you people) like a fiddle. Hundreds of "stay away, we're full" for the price of none. e2: Just to be clear: those 80,000 include Dublin. There's literally hi Ligur! nothing newsworthy about his statements but for the sheer scope of it necessitating a move from regular to chartered planes. Cake Smashing Boob fucked around with this message at 18:03 on Jan 28, 2016 |
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Cake Smashing Boob posted:Expelling failed asylum seekers is hardly a new policy.
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A Buttery Pastry posted:That is not really relevant. You had the ability to save these people, by not making Sweden sound like a wonderful place to go to, but instead you continued a policy meant to make you look good only to send tens of thousands of people to their deaths. That's a rather fanciful interpretations of events and motives, I must admit. Wrong, also.
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A Buttery Pastry posted:only to send tens of thousands of people to their deaths. We have a massive influx of opportunity seekers along with asylum seekers. The former are not sent back to their deaths but rather to a poor shithole where they will not reach their full potential. This might be bad in and of itself, but it is not quite as barbaric as you would paint it. Sending people to their death would be a breech of immigration law. We only send certain people to their death when the CIA asks us nicely or when they are gay or activists or we feel like it
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ulvir posted:alright, how would you define gender biologically? by genitals? then what about intersex (hermaphrodites)? and do eunuchs stop being "male" simply because their genitals are removed? by chromosome pairs? then what about XXX, XXY, XYY, and all other wonderful chromosome aneuploidies? genetic sex is actually not that difficult to fit into a binary system here. it is a perfectly legitimate term to use, though it's obviously tiresome to take the side of someone who considers evolutionary psychology a "hard science" the genetic definition is that if one has a Y chromosome, one is male. this does not change in the case of XYYs, or Klinefelter's syndrome. a better example is the viability of apparently female silent-Y individuals as shown in an episdoe of hit show house, MD. regardless, research is done on the basis of genetic sex, and this is both productive and purposeful - though it obviously is not necessarily directly applicable to social gender roles and norms, it is by no means entirely disconnected either
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Neeksy posted:So is each and every Danish citizen gonna be given some dental pliers by the state so they can extract any possible gold teeth from the refugees, or will they have to supply their own? It'll be self service, surely.
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If I go to finnish social services, I get subjected to the exact same procedures. Is this humanitarian crisis also? They don't perform a cavity search but that's just because that would involve them doing something themselves, so they just require proof that it was done and I'm free to pick from any of the public or private bum rustlers.
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Pimpmust posted:http://politik.tv2.dk/2016-01-28-pia-kjaersgaard-derfor-boer-avis-traekke-nazi-tegning-af-loekke-tilbage  
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