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monkeu
Jun 1, 2000

by Reene


Click here to go to the FAQ in the second post.
Click here to play with goons, find the IRC channel or join one of the goon clans.
Click here for Ularg's weekly Nightfall guide.

Destiny is out on PS4, Xbox One, Xbox 360 and PS3 motherfuckers!!! :hellyeah:

Expansion 1: The Dark Below

The Dark Below drops on December 9. It includes 3 new multiplayer maps, a new raid, 2 new strikes (one is a timed exclusive for Playstation consoles), 3 new story missions, new gear and raises the level cap to 32.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUEiKU0hkc0&hd=1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6saWAcGizxU&hd=1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KfmM-tZS4o&hd=1

Here's Bungie's official page for it: http://www.bungie.net/en/event/darkbelow



If you preorder the expansion you also get a kicking rad barrel roll sparrow in the mail:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7renQhqEyo&hd=1

Useful Links

http://www.bungie.net/ - Weekly news updates, stat tracking, character management and more.
http://destinypublicevents.com/ - Public events timer and map.
http://www.findxur.com/ - Details on Xur's current location and inventory. Xur is available 2 am Friday - 2 am Sunday US Pacific Time (but he doesn't take part in daylight saving).
http://www.destinylfg.net/ - A group finding site if you don't want to play with goons for some stupid reason.
http://isthegunsmithsellingrarefusionrifles.com/ - An extremely useful site if you're trying to complete the Pocket Infinity exotic bounty.
http://www.destinydb.com/ - Detailed information on pretty much everything in the game.
http://planetdestiny.com - A pretty good general Destiny news website.
http://destinygrimoire.com/ - Plain text Grimoire cards.
http://www.youtube.com/user/DattoDoesDestiny - Datto's Youtube channel featuring heaps of informative videos.

What is this game?

Destiny is a first person shooter made by Bungie, the dudes who made Halo. It's built from the ground up around co-op and seamless online multiplayer, and incorporates quite a few MMO elements. You also collect loot like guns and armor to upgrade your characters. It's been described as a combination of Halo, Phantasy Star Online and Borderlands, but it's definitely more fun than the sum of its parts.

Here's a few videos. The first one's really long but it breaks down what the game's all about :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIxxsw7TNd4&hd=1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jv7vqCmt6wY&hd=1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TljtC5qnb-s&hd=1

Obligatory Bungie live action trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZyQK6kUdWQ&hd=1

What's the story about?

quote:

Everything changed with the arrival of the Traveler. Long ago, it breathed new life into our system. Rain washed over Mars. Fresh air cleansed the skies over Venus. Soon after, humanity raced into the black, and colonized these newly remade worlds. It was a time of miracles – a great Golden Age.

It did not last. The Traveler had an ancient enemy. A powerful darkness that found us here on Earth, and nearly destroyed us. No one knows exactly what happened in those final moments, but we know this: we survived, and we owe our lives to the Traveler. In our darkest days, Humans, Exos, and Awoken found the Traveler where it made its last stand, low above Earth, silent and immobile. We built the City – our last – within its protective veil, fighting countless wars to keep its peace. From that dark age, Guardians were born.

Now, a new era has begun, and the only hope for our future lies in unlocking the greatest mysteries of our past. You are a Guardian of the last safe city on Earth, able to wield some of the Traveler's incredible power. You are taking this mantle just as a new day dawns. Titans, Hunters, and Warlocks have finally returned to our long-lost worlds, only to find out we are not alone.

Defend the last safe City on Earth. Defeat our enemies. Explore the ancient ruins of our solar system. Discover all that we have lost.

Become legend.

What's the gameplay like?

The game takes place across parts of our solar system, with a variety of different game modes. Here's a map of the locations you visit:



The gameplay is broken up between single player / co-op modes (PVE) and traditional shootmans multiplayer (PVP). The PVE stuff takes place on pretty huge maps, where you can be playing on your own or with friends and suddenly you'll run into other players going about their own business on the same big map as you. They might be doing the same mission as you, or they might not, and it's all matchmade seamlessly as you play.

You have a character of one of three different classes that you level up and find loot for - guns and armor pieces that offer different stats and different modifiers. You also have your own floating speedbike that you can call down at any time to make getting around the big maps quicker and easier.



The main hub is The Tower, which is in the last safe city on Earth that the busted-rear end Traveler hangs above. You go here to buy stuff, upgrade your spaceship, take bounties, advance story missions, try to start dance parties etc.



Here's a rundown of the main game modes:

  • Story missions are basically the single player or co-op campaign mode. You can play these on your own, or with one or two other players. You can also go back and replay them at harder difficulties whenever you feel like it.
  • Strikes are like boss runs or MMO instances. You can start them as a team of 3, or if you start them with less than 3 players you'll be automatically matchmade with enough players to fill out your 3 player fireteam.
  • Patrol lets you run around and explore the massive maps that the other missions and strikes take place on. You can also accept little mini-missions while in Patrol mode to grind for experience and or money.
  • Raids are the endgame hard mode content. These are for 6 player teams, and there's no matchmaking for them. Bungie says that this is because they're going to be truly challenging and they don't want to compromise the difficulty of them so that random pubbie groups could finish them.
  • Crucible is where you go for PVP. There's a variety of traditional multiplayer maps of different sizes, some including vehicles. Game types include your basic team death match, objective modes and more. Most game modes will have armor and weapon damage flattened so that low level characters can compete against higher level characters, however there will also be modes where all your gear stats count.

Here's a video about raids. It's worth checking out just to get an idea of enemy variety:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFRQlCX3Ygs&hd=1

Here's another video showing off the competitive multiplayer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20opyh1pLYg&hd=1

Here's some shots of some of the planets you visit. Click for big:





What are the classes like?



There are three main class types. Pictured above left to right they are hunters, warlocks and titans. Each class can use any type of weapon, so class types are more about your space-magic abilities. On top of that each class also has two subclasses that they can freely switch between (like switching weapons or armor). Here's a rundown of the classes:



Hunters are space snipers I guess. Their default super is the golden gun, which is literally a golden gun that has 3 bullets that can one-shot basically everything except bosses. Their special jump is a double jump, which can be upgraded to a triple jump. Their melee is a knife and they get fancy cloaks to parade around town in.

The default subclass is called Gunslinger. Click here to check out its skills.
The other subclass is called Bladedancer. Click here to check out its skills.



Warlocks are quite literally space wizards. Their default super is the nova bomb, which involves hurling a purple ball of space magic that explodes whatever it hits. Their special jump is called glide, which lets them glide around the place. Their melee is a force push thing and they get arm bands that end up having holograms coming out of them and stuff to pimp themselves out.

The default subclass is called Voidwalker. Click here to check out its skills.
The other subclass is called Sunsinger. Click here to check out its skills.



Titans are like a cross between Captain Falcon and Master Chief. Their default super is fists of havoc, which basically punches the poo poo out of the ground and kills everything anywhere near it - which can eventually be upgraded to make them fly in like loving Superman. Their special jump is a jetpack called lift, which lets them gain lots of height. Their melee is punching the poo poo out of everything, and they get various cool sweat towels that hang off their belts, so that they can wipe their hands off after they've finished punching space nerds.

The default subclass is called Striker. Click here to check out its skills.
The other subclass is called Defender. Click here to check out its skills.

What else is cool about this game?

DECORATING YOUR SPACE BARBIE AND STARTING DANCE PARTIES MOTHERFUCKERS!!!!! :swoon: :swoon: :swoon:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbgePPbyGbY&hd=1

:siren: MAKE SURE YOU CHECK OUT THE FAQ IN THE NEXT POST BEFORE YOU ASK ANY STUPID QUESTIONS!!! :siren:

monkeu fucked around with this message at 09:52 on Dec 7, 2014

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monkeu
Jun 1, 2000

by Reene
Frequently Asked Questions

Welcome to the FAQ. New to Destiny? Just starting out? Just not sure about something? Please READ THE loving FAQ!! It's divided into the following sections:

  • General and Technical Stuff
  • Weapons and Gear Stuff
  • Gameplay Stuff
  • Endgame and PVP Stuff

Want to jump to a section? Or looking for something in particular? CTRL+F is your friend!

Stay awhile and listen.




:siren::siren: General and Technical Stuff :siren::siren:

Any information on the expansions / DLC?

Yes! The first is called The Dark Below, and it drops on December 9. It includes 3 new multiplayer maps, a new raid, 2 new strikes (one is a timed exclusive for Playstation consoles), 3 new story missions, new gear and raises the level cap to 32.



Here's Bungie's official page for it: http://www.bungie.net/en/event/darkbelow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUEiKU0hkc0&hd=1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6saWAcGizxU&hd=1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KfmM-tZS4o&hd=1

If you preorder the expansion you also get a kicking rad barrel roll sparrow in the mail:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7renQhqEyo&hd=1

Any information on the current event?

There isn't one!

What are the known upcoming events?

There aren't any! Salvage soon?!

What's the current Nightfall? Any tips for it?

Ularg does an awesome weekly write-up. You can check it out by clicking here.

Where can I get the latest patch notes?

You can always find the latest patch and hotfix notes here: http://www.bungie.net/updates

Upcoming changes: http://www.bungie.net/en/News/News?aid=12364

quote:

Here are some things we’ve mentioned:
  • New gear to let you slip into something a little more Legendary
  • That which waits in The Dark Below

Here are some things we’ve kept secret, until now:
  • New shaders for your gear
  • Fixes, patches, and other invisible technical evolutions
  • Some other tricks up our sleeve
  • Maybe even a more generous Cryptarch (he’ll still be sort of a bastard)

I started a new character and lost my special edition skins / Bungie code stuff! Or I accidentally deleted them! This sucks!

Go to the Special Orders desk. You can get them again as many times as you like on any characters on your account.

What are the reviews like?

Pretty dumb unfortunately. The great majority of the reviews you see on Metacritic came out within 4 or 5 days after the reviewers could even start playing the game. Highlights include polygon giving it 6/10 for various reasons including the fact that it has only 4 PVP maps (it actually launched with 11) and bad enemy AI (as always the Bungie enemy AI is probably the best in class for shooters). Jeff Gerstmann of giantbomb gave it 3/5 essentially because it's a first person shooter instead of an MMO. Also worth noting is that any review released within the first week of the game being released (that is, most of them) was written without the reviewer even stepping a single foot inside the raid, the culminating endgame experience of the game. Gaming journalism at its finest. The general goon consensus is that the story isn't great, but the gameplay is fantastic.

Here's a pretty intelligent write-up on exactly why most of the reviews dragging down the game's Metacritic score are so idiotic: http://www.gamesradar.com/if-youre-worried-about-destinys-longevity-or-level-cap-you-dont-understand-destiny/

What are the differences between the different console versions? What system should I get this for?

The gameplay and core experience is the same across all four available consoles. Obviously if you're playing on 360 or PS3 it's going to be at a lower resolution with more framerate issues than a current gen machine, but apparently it's still very playable. The PS4 is the lead platform for development, to the point where Bungie apparently had a big hand in helping design the Dual Shock 4 to make it better for shooters. Playstation consoles also get some timed exclusive content. The Xbox One version also runs at 1080p though, so at the end of the day while the PS4 is the best console to play it on, you're going to have the same fun with this game no matter which console you get it for.

Worth noting also is if you start playing it on PS3 you can migrate your character to PS4 if you upgrade your console, and you can do the same from 360 to Xbox One. Also until January 15 2015, if you buy the game digitally on an old-gen console you can get a free upgrade to the current gen equivalent console digital version. Details: http://www.destinythegame.com/digital-upgrade

Here's a video comparing the different versions in the beta:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHwtcmwA_xc&hd=1

Here's a picture of the Playstation (timed) exclusive stuff:



Is there cross play between consoles? If I'm on PS3 can I play with friends on PS4 etc?

Nope, as stated above you can transfer your character from PS3 to PS4 or from Xbox 360 to Xbox One, but cross play between consoles / generations is not possible.

Where's the PC version?

There isn't one. At least there aren't any current plans for one. There might be one down the track, but there might not. Sorry dudes!

Are there subscription fees? This game kinda sounds like an MMO.

Nope, you buy the game and then play it as much as you want, like a Halo or COD game. There will be paid expansion DLC, the first of which is due in December, but these are optional and all of the different limited editions come with a pass to download the first two once they become available.

I heard there's a phone app? What does it do?

There is! It basically lets you do the stuff you can do on bungie.net from your phone. This includes tracking stats, managing your character and inventory, reading your Grimoire cards, checking what Tower vendors have in stock, interacting with your groups / clans and more. It's available for iOS and Android. Get it here: http://www.bungie.net/en/Companion

Grimoire? What the hell is Grimoire?

Basically they're little digital collector cards that contain snippets of lore on the Destiny universe. You get them for completing different challenges in game (kill a certain number of a certain enemy type etc), for finding dead Ghosts and possibly in other ways. You can view and read your Grimoire collection on bungie.net and through the companion app (see above).

Certain Grimoire cards also provide minor in-game bonuses for getting them to a certain level. Examples include making certain weapon types level faster, or getting more of a certain resource type each time you find it (like spinmetal). Here's a video that explains it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHr1iBwjevU&hd=1

Can I get some Grimoire cards and emblems and stuff for free?

Hell yeah! Here's some codes that you can enter at http://www.bungie.net/en/User/coderedemption:

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Grimoire Cards
1. Warlock: YKA-RJG-MH9
2. Hunter: 3DA-P4X-F6A
3. Titan: MVD-4N3-NKH
4. Rixis: TCN-HCD-TGY
5. Old-Russia: HDX-ALM-V4K
6. Hive: 473-MXR-3X9
7. Moon: JMR-LFN-4A3
8. Gjallorhorn: HC3-H44-DKC
9. Duke MK.44: 69P-KRM-JJA
10. The Tower: 69P-VCH-337
11. The Hive Ogre 69R-CKD-X7L
12. Valley of the kings, Mars: 69R-DDD-FCP
13. The Fallen: 69R-F99-AXG
14. Red Death: 69R-VL7-J6A
15. The Cabal: 69X-DJN-74V
16. The Devastated Coast, Venus: 6A7-7NP-3X7
17. Vex Minotaur: 6A9-DTG-YGN

Emblems
Binding Focus: FJ9-LAM-67F
Illusion of Light: JD7-4CM-HJG
Ab Aeterno: JDT-NLC-JKM
Field of Light: JNX-DMH-XLA
Lone Focus, Jagged Edge: 7CP-94V-LFP
Sign of the Finite: 7F9-767-F74
Note of Conquest: X4C-FGX-MX3
The Unimagined Plane: X9F-GMA-H6D
Flames of Forgotten Truth: A7L-FYC-44X
The Reflective Proof: N3L-XN6-PXF

Shaders
Double Banshee: 7MM-VPD-MHP
Oracle 99: RXC-9XJ-4MH

How do I join the goon clan?

There are actually multiple goon clans all part of a big goon alliance. This is because there is a limit of 100 members per platform for each clan. The solution has been to make a main group that everyone needs to join, and then various subgroups divided into world regions etc underneath that main group. MAKE SURE YOU READ THE loving INSTRUCTIONS AND AUTHENTICATE YOURSELF INTO THE MAIN GROUP, OR YOU WON'T BE ACCEPTED INTO ANY OF THE SUBGROUPS!!

Go here to join a goon clan: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3644857

What's going on with voice chat? I can't hear anyone else?!

By default you can only voice chat with people in your fireteam. This includes during PVP - which means that by default you can't actually chat with your team in multiplayer unless you're in a fireteam with them. However if you're in a matchmade activity (a strike or a team-based crucible match) you can pull up your Ghost menu (the one you use to call in your sparrow) and switch to public chat using the D-pad. You can also go to voice options in the settings menu and set it so that you always join the public chat channel by default if you're playing on your own. This is the best way to instantly make the game a lot more social.

What are the trophies / achievements?




:siren::siren: Weapons and Gear Stuff :siren::siren:

What sort of weapons and gear can I get for my space barbie?

You can have three weapons equipped at a time. A primary, a special and a heavy weapon. Primary weapons include scout rifles (Halo DMRs), auto rifles (Halo Assault Rifles), pulse rifles (Halo Battle Rifles) and hand cannons. Secondaries include shotguns, sniper rifles and fusion rifles. Heavy weapons include rocket launchers and machine guns. Note that you can carry around a bunch of different weapons in each category, but if you switch special weapons or heavy weapons you will also lose half of the ammo for that type that you have. This is to discourage you switching from sniper to shotgun for example willy nilly.

As for gear, your character can equip a helmet, gauntlets, chest armor, leg armor and a class item.

You can also buy new Ghost shells, vehicles (your floating bike thing), ships, shaders (armor colours) and emblems.

All of these items can have different stats including attack, impact, range, stability, reload time, rate of fire, magazine size on weapons and stuff like armor rating, super cooldown reduction, grenade cooldown reduction, melee special cooldown reduction and stuff on armor. They can also all have different modifiers based on their item rarity color.

What do the different item colors mean? What are these engram things?

As stated above gear and weapons you find can have different modifiers based on their rarity level.

The levels in order are:

  • White (basic)
  • Green (uncommon)
  • Blue (rare)
  • Purple (legendary)
  • Gold (exotic)

It's worth noting that you can only ever have one exotic weapon plus one exotic armor piece equipped at any time, so choose what you're going to use wisely.

Most of the time when you get a rare item of some sort it will come encryted as an engram. Basically you need to take these to the Cryptarch in the Tower to have them identified before you can use them.

Here's some examples of the cool stuff you can find:









More here: http://planetdestiny.com/exotics-destiny/

What is elemental damage? How does it work?

Damage on weapons can come in four types: kinetic (no elemental damage) arc (blue), solar (red) and void (purple). Basically elemental damage will do bonus damage to certain enemies if they have the same color shield type. Here's a video about elemental damage:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTLosBMLt3Q&hd=1

I have a weapon or some armor with a modifier on it but it isn't working!!

Gear with modifiers on them need to be leveled up before you can actually activate them. To do this you just need to actually use the gear until it unlocks, then pay some glimmer (money) and possibly some parts of some sort.

How do loot drops work? Do I have to share them with other people?

Nope, loot is all specific to every player. That is, you're the only one who can even see the drops that you can see, so don't worry about hogging them, sharing them or racing to get them or whatever. If you can see it, it's yours.

What are all these white, green and purple boxes that keep dropping?

That's ammo. White is primary ammo, green is special ammo and purple is heavy ammo. Like all drops, it's all for you so don't worry about leaving some for other players. As stated before if you switch which special weapon or heavy weapon you have equipped you will also lose half your current ammo for that weapon type, so think carefully before you switch from a sniper to a shotty or whatever.

How do I trade with other players?

You can't. Bungie says that they want your weapons and gear to be like a story for your character. Also I'm guessing they want to avoid the shitfest that was the Diablo 3 auction house, and the rampant duping that occurred due to trading exploits in Borderlands 2. Basically if you want some cool weapon you need to go and earn it yourself. Note that you can transfer stuff between your own characters using the vault in the Tower.

What do I do with stuff I don't want then? Do I take it to the Tower and sell it to a vendor?

Nope, trash it. There's a button you press (square on Playstation) to scrap items you don't want. This breaks it down to glimmer (cash) and in some cases other resources like weapon parts (which can then be used to upgrade weapons and stuff you do want to use). This takes the place of carting stuff to town to sell it in other games. If you don't want something and you know you don't want to use it, scrap that poo poo.

Can I store stuff I don't want right now for later?

Yep, in the Vault in the Tower. This is joint storage between all your characters, so it can be used to trade stuff between your own characters. Running out of storage in your vault? Scrap some of that poo poo you hoarder!

Loot drops are too small! I'm going to miss one!

Any blue or higher drops you miss or just don't pick up end up in the mail system for you back in the Tower. So it's literally impossible to miss good loot. You can straight up ignore blue or higher loot if you'd like, it will still be in the mail for you back at the Tower.


:siren::siren: Gameplay Stuff :siren::siren:

Which race should I choose? What are the differences?

The three races to choose from are humans (space humans), the awoken (space goths / emos) and exo (space robots). The only real differences between the races are what you look like in the Tower and in some cutscenes (you have your helmet on during actual gameplay) and your dance moves. So pick whichever one you think looks the coolest.

What's the best class? I don't know which one to pick!

The best answer is pick whichever one sounds the most fun for you. There's a write-up in the first post about their different abilities, but at the end of the day they're all viable in PVE and PVP. In fact you can create one of each, so choose whatever to start off with. If you don't like it, make another character!

What's the deal with leveling? Is 20 the cap? I've seen people over level 20!

Level 20 is the level cap without gear taken into account. High level gear has an attribute called +light, which raises your effective level. This acts as a gear check for certain activities (high level strikes and raids) and also lets you see basically how powerful other players are without having to check some separate gear level - it's all integrated into the one character level. So basically up until level 20 you're trying to level your character so you can wear better gear, past level 20 you're trying to get better gear to raise your character level.

Here's a youtube of a level 29 titan tooling around if you want an idea of some of the high level abilities:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDr6HU-2cgE&hd=1

How do subclasses work? Do I have to commit to one? I have to level it all over again?

You can switch subclasses as if they were a piece of gear - so you can swap back and forth between them like you would a gun or a helmet. The assumption is that doing so would reset your super cooldown, but otherwise you can switch between them as you please. Each subclass needs to be leveled up separately, so once you've hit character level 15 and you gain access to the second subclass it will be completely unleveled. Also worth noting is that once you've gained access to switching subclasses on one character the ability becomes available on all of your characters, so you can start new characters using their second subclass from the start if you'd like.

Probably the quickest ways to level a new subclass is to do bounties on your regular subclass, and then switch to your new subclass before you turn the bounties in. Once you feel like you've unlocked enough of the new subclass' abilities using this method you can switch to it and actually start using it. Or not. Whatevs.

When do I get a speed bike with guns on it?!

You don't. Bungie has said they know that if they gave you a vehicle with guns on it whenever you wanted a lot of players would never get off it, so the vehicles you warp down from orbit don't have weapons. There are missions where you can get vehicles with weapons though, as well as public events in explore mode that pop up occassionally. Obviously some of the PVP maps have vehicles with weapons on them too.

My double jump goes too high! It's useless!

Press jump a third time to cancel the warlock's glide or the titan's lift whenever you want.

What are orbs of light? It says I generated them but I can't find them!

Orbs of light are produced when you kill things with your super. Only other players can see them - you can never see or collect your own. Picking up orbs that other players drop fills your super meter, so basically if you play with others and use your super moves effectively you can all get more supers quicker.

What are these public events?

At random times (or possibly set times) different public events will show up on the big overworld maps. These can be things like defending a point, killing a spidertank or chasing down a high level captain and killing him. The idea is that they bring together all the random people running around that area of the map to work together. If you participate you get a bronze, silver or gold medal, and each day you get a reward at the mail dude for completing your first public event that day. This reward can include a strange coin which can be used to buy exotics or endgame crafting materials, so completing these is definitely worth the time.

Here's a site that lets you track when they're likely to happen: http://destinypublicevents.com/

I found a golden chest. What are they?

Each big overworld map area has 5 golden chests hidden throughout it. Unlike the normal loot chests, these are always in the same spot. If you find all of these in an area you not only get the loot from each one, you also get another bonus on top of that. For example if you find all 5 in Old Russia you get a free upgraded Sparrow (speed bike). Here's some videos of where they can be found:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eakRwAUprY0&hd=1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6b2rNq0LzWY&hd=1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGfpf5C73kw&hd=1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UH4qtD_ag_k&hd=1

I found a dead Ghost. What are they?

They're little hidden collectables that are pretty much everywhere, including all around the Tower. Finding them unlocks Grimoire stuff. Here's a link with all of their locations: http://www.primagames.com/games/destiny/tips/destiny-all-dead-ghost-locations-ghost-hunter-trophy-and-achievement

Is there any way to find out what the Patrol mode mini missions are? I'm sick of running all over the place all the time!

Yes! Each mini mission beacon will come up as a different icon on your hud depending on what type of mission it is. Here they are:



:siren::siren: Endgame and PVP Stuff :siren::siren:

I finished the story / hit level 20! Now what?

Welcome to endgame! For a lot of people, this is where the fun really starts. Here's a list of stuff you might enjoy doing:

  • Play PVP in the Crucible.
  • Collect +light gear to continue leveling up your character to 30 so you can take on harder content.
  • Tackle harder and harder Strikes in the Vanguard playlist.
  • Complete the daily and weekly Heroic missions and strikes.
  • Beat the weekly Nightfall challenge that has even harder difficulty and modifiers.
  • Conquer the raid... then conquer it on hard mode.
  • Level up your other subclass or even another character class.
  • Hunt for the perfect gear to make your character the baddest dude in the solar system / the prettiest girl at the ball :swoon:

Here's an awesome step-by-step guide from Look Around You:

Look Around You posted:

1. Do the highest level vanguard strike playlist that you match (20 if you're lvl 20/21, 22 once you hit 22, 24 when you're 24).

2a. Use and upgrade blue armor to get to higher levels. Your goal here is to find full blue "requires level 20" armkeor, and level it up. Leveling up an armor increases the amount of light it provides (THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER). Once you have full lvl 20 blues upgraded, you'll be level 24 and be able to do the Tiger Strike playlist, which gives pretty decent rewards.

2b. Start running the weekly heroic strike at the highest level you can to start getting coins for Xur

3a. Grind vanguard rep with bounties and patrols until you hit vanguard rank 2.
3b. Grind vanguard marks with public events and the strike playlist until you get enough to buy stuff.

4a. Buy purple legs, arms and chest from the vanguard vendor. This will take two weeks.
4b. Try to buy an exotic from Xur on Friday/Saturday when he's in the tower; exotics have even higher light than regular purples, and get it faster. If a good helmet is up for your class, you should buy it because the only way to hit level 30 is hardmode raid or exotic helmet maxed. If you get another piece (chest, gloves) from Xur, that's fine, just save up and get the helmet from the vanguard. It's worth it to do this anyway in case you do get a good exotic in another armor slot.

5. Level up your BOOTS all the way (including the shard nodes) ((this is because there are no exotic boots yet)) (editor's note: The reason for this step is to hit 28 sooner to make nightfalls and level 28 weeklies easier. However if you're planning on raiding soon you can easily run the raid at 27, and if you get lucky with the RNG you could get some raid armor - including boots - which will make your current regular legendary redundant. So personally I'd hold off on potentially wasting shards before you do your first raid run - though obviously if you're not raiding any time soon but want to run nightfalls and 28 weeklies then it's probably worth the shards). Level everything else up to the point where it needs shards. Max out your exotic armor.

6a. Once you hit level 27 or 28, start raiding! Find groups in the thread in PGS or in here. You're trying to get raid legendary armor, which you'll level up ALL THE WAY, even shard nodes. This is the only way to hit level 30, since raid gear goes up to 30 light, and normal purples go to 27. Your raid gear will look worse than your current gear when you get it; this is normal!!! When you upgrade it, it will get better. Don't shard pieces of raid armor unless they're duplicates. Also you'll get a bunch of shards/energy doing this, which is necessary to level up your gear.

6b. Also at this level you'll want to be doing the weekly nightfall and weekly heroic strikes at lvl 28. This gets you random good gear and a good amount of coins respectively.

7. Once you hit 29 (no exotic helmet) or 30 (exotic helmet), do the hard mode raid! You can only get the raid helmet from Atheon in Hard Mode, so it's likely you'll be doing this at 29 unless you got an exotic helmet from Xur/some lucky as gently caress random drop.

8. Keep rerunning the raid trying to get the raid gear and also shards and energy to level up your gear. Keep doing nightfalls for gear. Keep doing weeklys for coins. Bitch and moan and wait until the expansion!

You can also do crucible at any time in this, which is always a super fun distraction if you like PvP.

e: other people answered the crucible/dead orbit/etc questions. I would personally wait until you hit vanguard 3 before joining a faction because they don't take vanguard marks; they only accept crucible marks. Once you hit 3 in vanguard you can use it as a mark sink to buy weapons/armor to shard or whatever.

How does +light gear work? Where do I get it?

As stated previously once you hit level 20, the only way to raise your effective level is with +light gear. Light is a seperate attribute like intellect, discipline and strength. Getting enough light points raises you to the next level, and better gear will have more +light on it. Effectively this makes your level past 20 a gear check, but it's an important one. Endgame content is significantly harder than the regular campaign content if you're under leveled / under geared. If a weekly heroic strike says it's for level 22, anyone lower than level 22 is going to find completing it a bit of a slog. For reference you automatically do 30% less damage and take 30% more damage from any enemies one level above you. For enemies two levels above you it's 40%, and for enemies three levels above you it's 50%. Enemies 4 or more levels higher are immune to damage from you, and will basically always one-shot you.

As such it's important to chase high end +light gear to continue progressing through endgame content. A sensible progression for PVE content after level 20 is doing Vanguard strikes (set to level 18 or 20) and the daily Heroic missions up to level 22 or so. After that you can keep doing all that plus the weekly Heroic strike and possibly have a go at level 24 Vanguard stikes until you hit level 26. After level 26 you can tackle the raid, and after that the weekly Nightfall strike.

You can get +light gear from doing basically anything in the endgame. It can be rewarded for finishing strikes or other missions, it has a chance of dropping inside actual gameplay, it can be a reward for finishing a PVP match and it can be bought from some vendors (including the vanguard dudes, the crucible dudes, the faction dudes and Xur, who only comes on weekends). It's also worth noting that upgrading the defense stat on gear that has +light will also slightly increase that gear's +light amount.

How much +light do I need to level up past 20?

Level 21: 20 Light
Level 22: 32 Light
Level 23: 43 Light
Level 24: 54 Light
Level 25: 65 Light
Level 26: 76 Light
Level 27: 87 Light
Level 28: 98 Light
Level 29: 109 Light
Level 30: 120 Light

What's the most reliable way of getting legendaries and exotics?

By buying them. By using marks from doing PVE and PVP stuff to buy legendaries you can get 3 legendary armor pieces with 2 weeks worth of marks. If you top that off by using strange coins to get an exotic from Xur for the fourth slot, you can have raid ready gear guaranteed in two weeks or so of fairly casual play.

How do I hit level 30? Just by buying 4 purple items from the vendors and leveling them up? How much +light does each type of armor add?

You need full raid gear or 3 raid pieces and an exotic to hit level 30. Four regular purples can get you to level 28 fully upgraded, but to get higher than that you need raid gear and exotics. Keep that in mind when you're deciding which gear to spend those precious ascendant materials on!

Regular Legendary armor starts at +18 light and fully upgrades to +27 light. It takes 5 armor upgrades to get there (+2, +2, +1, +2, +2) with the final 3 costing 6 ascendant shards each.

Raid Legendary armor starts at +18 light and fully upgrades to +30 light. It takes 5 armor upgrades to get there (+2, +2, +2, +3, +3) with the final 3 costing 7 ascendant shards each.

Exotic armor starts at +21 light and fully upgrades to +30 light. It takes 4 armor upgrades to get there (+2, +2, +2, +3) with the final 2 costing 8 ascendant shards each.

I never get any good drops or rewards! I don't have a full legendary set yet! What gives?

Getting drops and good gear is basically a random number generator, or a roll of the dice. It's random. Sometimes you can get 2 great drops in an hour, sometimes you won't get any for days. The more you play the more chances you'll have at getting the gear you want :csgo:

It's also worth noting that your main source of gearing should be using marks to buy stuff from either the vanguard guys, the crucible guys or the faction guys. Doing this you can have raid ready gear in two weeks of fairly casual play.

Leveling high level gear takes ages! What's the quickest way to do it?

Bounties! Before you turn any bounty at all in make sure you've switched all your gear and weapons to things that need leveling. If you have a subclass that needs leveling make sure you switch to that too.

What are these motes of light? Strange coins? Marks? What do I use them for?

These are various types of currency. Here's a rundown:

  • Glimmer is the main cash type currency. You spend this on low level gear, emblems, shaders, ammo packs etc. It caps out at 25,000 and in endgame you'll eventually have more than you know what to do with unless you gamble it away on crap greens from the cryptarch, so spend that poo poo on whatever.
  • Motes of Light are currency used to buy emblems and class items from the speaker, and to buy certain things from the Agent of the Nine (a vendor who visits on weekends). You get one of these every time you earn enough XP that it would have made you go up a level after hitting level 20. They can also be found as random drops or given as activity rewards.
  • Strange Coins are currency used to buy awesome poo poo from Xur, Agent of the Nine, who sells exotics and more every weekend in the Tower. You can get these as drops, random rewards and for completing high end content.
  • Marks are currency used to buy weapons and gear from the vanguard dudes, the crucible dudes, and the faction dudes. There are vanguard marks and crucible marks. You get vanguard marks from running the Vanguard strike playlist and completing other endgame PVE stuff and can spend these with the vanguard dudes. You get crucible marks from playing PVP and can spend these with the crucible dudes and the faction dudes. You can earn a maximum of 100 of each type of mark per week and you can have up to 200 of each saved up at a time.

What's all this spin metal / iron ore / ascendant shards etc?

They're materials you need to upgrade your gear. Better gear and weapons will require more materials to upgrade. You can trade in some of it, but you're better off holding onto it for endgame upgrades. Here's a video on the different materials and stuff:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8bWzW1n-VY&hd=1

Why won't the vanguard / crucible / faction vendor sell me stuff? I have marks!

You need to reach a certain reputation level with each type before they'll sell you certain gear. You earn crucible rep by playing PVP. Vanguard rep is earned by running certain PVE activities, including Patrol missions and bounties. To earn faction rep you need to buy and equip one of that faction's class items and then do something that would normally earn crucible or vanguard rep. The reputation you earn will be applied towards that faction instead.

Which faction should I try to get reputation for? What's the difference?

As stated above, you earn rep for a faction by buying and equipping one of their class items. This will convert any rep you'd usually earn for vanguard or crucible into rep for that faction. Once you've got enough reputation with a faction, they'll sell you gear for crucible marks. Each faction's gear specialises in two different stats:

  • Dead Orbit specialises in discipline and strength (so more grenades and special melees)
  • Future War Cult specialises in intelligence and discipline (so more supers and grenades)
  • New Monarchy specialises in intelligence and strength (so more supers and special melees)

So pick the one that suits your play style. Or even better, get used to specialising in supers and grenades because FWC loving rules :c00lbert:

I just got an exotic bounty! Which one should I pick?

Pocket Infinity is the most popular choice, followed by Thorn or Invective. That said, when you get an exotic bounty you can always choose between 3 different options, so Pocket Infinity isn't always one of your possible choices. Here's a rundown of the exotic bounty options:

  • Shattered Memory Fragment gives you Pocket Infinity, which is a fusion rifle that has autofire. It's a beast for tearing down bosses and one of the best guns available for PVP.
  • Toland's Legacy gives you Bad Juju, a pulse rifle that Bungie has just buffed. It's gone from terrible to fairly serviceable.
  • A Light In The Dark gives you Thorn, a really good hand cannon that does damage over time.
  • A Dubious Task gives you Invective, a shotgun that regenerates ammo. Pretty good for PVP, possibly worth picking up if you love shotguns and don't already have a great rare or legendary.
  • A Voice In The Wilderness gives you Super Good Advice, a bullet hose heavy machine gun that's only very rarely worth taking up your exotic weapon slot. The real Super Good Advice is to use another gun.

I just got an exotic weapon and it doesn't seem that great. This sucks!

Level it up to unlock the perks you dummy! Very few exotics are amazing until you unlock their titular perk. For example Pocket Infinity is just a fairly mediocre slow-charging fusion rifle when you first get it, however once you unlock the 'Pocket Infinity' perk it turns into one of the best guns in the game. Exotic weapons take absolutely forever to level up, so do whatever you can to speed the process up. Make sure they're equipped before you turn in bounties!

What's that Vanguard thing on the map next to the Crucible?

It's a playlist where you run random strikes. You can bring a fireteam with you or get matchmade with pubbies. You can choose different difficulty levels and they award vanguard reputation and marks and possible gear rewards.

What are these things on the left hand side of my map?

They're the daily PVP mode, the daily Heroic mission, the weekly Heroic strike and the weekly Nightfall strike. They have increased XP rewards and some have higher level rewards. The PVE stuff also has modifiers applied to increase the difficulty - think skulls from Halo. Examples include Juggler (ammo won't drop for the gun you're currently using) and Arc Burn (all arc damage is greatly increased - from your weapons and from enemy weapons). To get specific information about the modifiers on an activity you just need to select the activity on the map and then put your mouse cursor thingo over the modifier.

Nightfall strikes become available once you hit level 24, and they're hard as hell. On top of that if everyone in your fireteam dies you get sent back to orbit. If you finish them you get a bonus XP multiplier for all your activities for the rest of the week, high level rewards, plus you get a totally cool blue glowing halo thing around your head for the rest of the week.

What's the raid like?



The Vault of Glass is located on Venus. It's super hard and super fun. And even harder on hard mode. Your progress through it is saved each week, and it has a chance to drop extremely high end rewards (including raid armor, which is the only way to reach level 30). You can get loot from each stage of the raid once per week too. Your progress and loot lockout is reset every Tuesday.

There's no matchmaking for the raid, but it's pretty easy to put together a group through your friends list, this thread, the PGS thread, or the Bungie goon group forums. You should be level 26 minimum before you attempt it or you'll be a burden to your group. Remember to buy special ammo and heavy ammo packs from the gunsmith too.

Unless you're on a quest of discovery and want to figure things out for yourself (and your group has agreed to that) you should also do some pre-reading so you know what to do. Here's the best available guide:

Mazerunner posted:

1. Play control against the Vex to test your mettle. Get chest.

2. a) You're bouncers at a concert and the Vex are trying to gatecrash. Stop them! Fanatics will try and push drugs on you and you'll get high on acid. If you're high while when the Templar drops the bass, you become a skrillex fan and are lost forever. Accept the light of Jesus and be saved!

b) Panhandling oracles will attempt to play music without a permit. Sing a counter song of gunfire.

c) The main event! The Templar shows up with his harpy back up dancers. One person grabs the sacred relic and purges his unholy satanic shield. Everyone else reads scripture from America's bible :freep:

3. Walk calmly to the left and go up a cliff for treasure. Walk calmly to the right for more treasure.

Follow the river to pride rock, then slide to the right, spin around and tap your heels three times. I wish I was out of this goddamn maze. I wish I was out of this goddamn maze. I wish I was out of this goddamn maze.

Don't run, jump, laugh, dream, eat, play guitar or dance. At no point should you hide under cardboard, that just makes you look foolish. Never be on your toes, always be relaxed, chill mutherfuckers.

4. Channel your inner Mario (or just Titan superman, Bladedancer swim, or fling yourself across and revive as Sunsinger).

5. a) Now you're the gatecrashers at Atheon's party. Beat up the first doorman, then head into the left and right side rooms and beat up his buds. Some of you will have to stay back to keep the cops off your asses.

b) Atheon shows up and tries to split up your group. Half will break his soundsystem, while the other half unlocks the door so they can get back in. The floor is lava so stand on the pillars. When you break his poo poo Atheon gets mad so say mean things to him with your bullet words and his feelings will be very hurt.

6. GODDAMNIT ANOTHER CHATTERWHITE!?!

I hope this helps!

Here's another one: http://www.playstationtrophies.org/forum/destiny/247017-destiny-vault-glass-raid-walkthrough.html

Oracles order diagram:



Map for the Gorgon Labyrinth:



Here's a couple of videos for some of the sections:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2ovmHYt2Hg&hd=1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1p0wFSZjCI&hd=1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZW4mL5szQbA&hd=1

When is the reset for all this weekly stuff?

Tuesday! 2am PST.

I hit the level cap (30 / 32)... Is there any way I can make this character even better?

Yes! MIN / MAX YOUR GEAR MOTHERFUCKER! The stat rolls (for int, disc and str) on armor are random, even on exotics and raid armor. You need +272 of a stat to get it to 100% cooldown reduction for its associated ability, however the benefits are huge.

By default your super takes 5 mins 30 seconds to recharge on its own, however with 100% cooldown reduction (+272 intellect) it only takes 3 mins 55 seconds, plus kills restore 2x the usual super energy on top of that.

By default your grenade takes a full minute to recharge, however with 100% cooldown reduction (+272 discipline) it only takes 27 seconds.

Want an example of the potential stat roll differences? The Armamentarium Xur sold in week 6 had a disc roll of 104 (117 fully upgraded), while the Armamentarium he sold in week 10 had a disc roll of 138 (155 fully upgraded).

There's a great thread with more information here: http://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/2m7rc0/guide_life_after_30_optimizing_your_guardian/

I came first in PVP and I didn't get anything! But the dude who came last got something! What the hell?

It's random. Any other system would be poo poo. If only the best players got rewards people would drop out if they were doing badly. If only the worst players got rewards people would intentionally play badly. So it's random. Play more and you'll have more chances to get stuff!

The PVP sucks! I suck at it! This is poo poo!

Call of Duty or Battlefield this ain't. If that's what you're used to, you have a fair bit of an adjustment to make. It's important to realise that in PVP (except for Iron Banner) the attack and defense stats of your gear don't count. This means that good modifiers on your gear, and stats like impact on your weapons are much more important in PVP. Two of the biggest tips are:

1. Use the bloody motion tracker! Check it constantly! USE THE BLOODY MOTION TRACKER!!

2. Learn to strafe, jump, aim and shoot all at the same time. This isn't COD where two or three bullets kill somebody so you can just crouch and pull the trigger first. Mobility is essential, so start learning to move and aim at the same time. Break off engagements if you need to so that the enemy needs to chase you.

Here's some great tips courtesy of Paniolo:

Paniolo posted:

I find the best thing to do when I'm struggling in PvP is to just focus on not dying. Practice your situational awareness, try to learn the environments, look at your radar and when you see an enemy try to figure out where they most likely are on the map. Once you get into that habit you'll find yourself flanking people a lot more, which is what you really want to be doing.

Keep in mind that any time you have a head to head confrontation with another player when you are both at full strength, you have a greater than 50% chance of dying (because of kill trading.) The only time it's really safe to do that is when you have your super, and even then, they might have theirs. So don't be afraid to disengage.

Also, remember that it's a team game and you can use your teammates. If they're all assaulting a zone from one side, flank from the other side. Those are the situations where people get multikills.

Paniolo posted:

More random crucible tips:

  • Your super regeneration rate increases the longer you're alive, so long as you're doing things like capturing zones or killing people. That means dying is really bad, because not only does the timer not run while dead, the rate resets. Also, if you're dead when heavy ammo or interceptors spawn, you won't be able to control them. So focus on not dying.
  • Grenades are often better used as a defensive tool than to score a kill. Don't just throw them wildly hoping to kill someone, it's better to have them ready for when you need to disengage or block a chokepoint while your team arrives.
  • Control zones capture significantly faster the more people are inside, but heavy weapons and supers can clear out a group of clumped people extremely quickly. When the radar is clear, everyone nearby should help capture, but once you see red on the radar you should spread out.
  • Sliding can be a really effective escape tool, especially if you're being shot at long range. Most people are going to be aiming for the head and will whiff at least one shot when you start sliding.
  • If you start having a bad time, focus on staying alive. Help capture zones (in control) or follow your teammates around and assist them. All of those things give you points and super energy.
  • Controlling heavy ammo is really important. Once you have it, it's pretty easy to get enough kills with your heavy weapon to activate your super and get even more kills. The majority of sprees involve someone getting heavy ammo or a vehicle.
  • Don't waste your super. It can sometimes be worth it to kill one person (especially if they're on a tear or have heavy ammo), but if you aren't completely sure you'll secure the kill it's sometimes better to die and save it. Remember that you can be killed during the casting animation.
  • If you died really quickly and it feels like somebody's weapon was really good or something, odds are you actually took damage from multiple sources. This happens especially frequently on First Light. Consider whether or not you were exposed from multiple angles.

Oh yeah, and maybe the most important thing to keep in mind is that any matchmaking algorithm takes a while to figure out where everyone should be, and there's a lot of people diving in to the matchmaking pool right now. So if you're brand new, you're sometimes going to go against people who've played tons and tons of console shooters, or sunk 30 hours into the alpha on PS4 and are now playing on Xbone, etc. If someone is absolutely tearing up a game, or you're significantly undermatched against everyone else, you can leave the session at the end of the game and go back into matchmaking to try and get a better match.

Still whining? Read this you big baby:

Rei_ posted:

If you think a shotgun blast and a punch to the gut shouldn't be a kill well drat are you playing games by the wrong company.

Do you want to know how to win Rumble? Learn the maps, use your radar. Never chase an enemy, if they get around a corner whip a grenade after them and then break off and find someone else. Bad players and good players alike thrive on overzealous kids spending 30 seconds chasing one kill. Learn to jump and move and aim at the same time, use the long time to kill to close gaps and end fights with a melee attack. Learn where the heavy weapon spawns are and when the call goes out be there FIRST. Run a MACHINE GUN. A rocket launcher is for OBJ gametypes, a machine gun can be a dozen kills if you're good. Aim for the loving head. Look UP. Look DOWN. You are going to die to supers, they are killstreaks, they get kills, learn to live with it and don't feed them more than you have to. Keep moving, but know where you're moving TO. Trying to 'hold an area' like COD in a game with such wildly varying TTK will get you loving killed. Learn which kills are worth trying to get, and which are a waste of your time. Don't wander into gunfights like a moron. Tell her you love her, life is too short. Don't try to snipe in free for all, you idiot. Learn to loving juke. Your best dodges are BACK and UP. Learn how to break lines of sight. Don't be stupid. Use headphones.

Stick with it! In time you'll get good enough that you can just do this:

monkeu fucked around with this message at 09:50 on Dec 7, 2014

Hezzy
Dec 4, 2004

Pillbug
Looks good! And it is actually complete. Well done.

CottonWolf
Jul 20, 2012

Good ideas generator

So are we moving into this thread now then? Or should we keep chat in the previous one till release?

monkeu
Jun 1, 2000

by Reene
Click here for Ularg's weekly Nightfall guide.

monkeu fucked around with this message at 23:53 on Oct 30, 2014

Symphoric
Apr 20, 2005


Click here for Ularg's weekly Nightfall guide.

Symphoric fucked around with this message at 16:54 on Nov 1, 2014

Elswyyr
Mar 4, 2009
What's the difference between the current-gen and last-gen versions? I've only got a PS3.

monkeu
Jun 1, 2000

by Reene
Click here for Ularg's weekly Nightfall guide.

monkeu fucked around with this message at 23:50 on Oct 30, 2014

limaCAT
Dec 22, 2007

il pistone e male
Slippery Tilde
Is the game out yet?

Mango Polo
Aug 4, 2007
Click here for Ularg's weekly Nightfall guide.

Mango Polo fucked around with this message at 15:53 on Nov 1, 2014

Ularg
Mar 2, 2010

Just tell me I'm exotic.
This week's Nightfall is Devil's Lair. Modifiers include:

Epic - Fallen Shanks appear with Solar shields. Hive Knights appear with Arc shields.

Angry - Minions of the Darkness won't flinch, even after massive damage.

Lightswitch - Minions of the Darkness deal much more melee damage.

Arc Burn - Arc Damage from any source (You or the enemy) is greatly increased.

Nightfall - If all players die, your Fireteam is returned to Orbit.



quote:

"The Fallen will continue to claw at the walls of our City, unless we strike them down. Beneath the ruins of the Cosmodrome, in the shadow of an old colony ship, we've located the House of Devils' Lair - and the High Servitor feeding them their strength. We must destroy this machine god...and send their souls screaming back to hell." - Commander Zavala



quote:

Fallen Walkers are mobile gun platforms deployed in offensive and defensive roles alike. Though their insect-like design gives them an eerie, almost lifelike quality, these heavily-armored monstrosities are purely robotic. Their advanced tracking systems can account for multiple targets as their forward repeaters and massive main gun sweep the battlefield for threats. Mine dispensers provide close defense against dismounted infantry, and an on-board Shank foundry produces armed repair drones.

Walkers are immediate and deadly threats, having ended the Light of countless Guardians. The Fallen do not hesitate to deploy them to provide overwatch for their salvage and extraction crews. Walkers are also commonly used as blocking forces to guard key Fallen assets. At the Battle of Twilight Gap, Walkers engaged in a thunderous artillery duel with the City's gun positions.

The collected wisdom of battle-hardened Guardians suggests Walkers can be beaten by focusing fire on the legs, overloading the Walker and rendering its armored core briefly vulnerable. When the Walker stumbles, Guardians should focus all available firepower on the exposed components beneath the neck plating. Some externally mounted weapons can also be disabled with precise fire.



quote:

"I never believed a machine could know hatred."

Floating, emotionless arbiters of life and death, Servitors are quasi-religious automata defended by the Fallen with zealous ferocity.

The exalted Servitor of the Fallen House of Devils, Sepiks Prime, has long been rumored to dwell deep within the bowels of the Cosmodrome. While the Kells are the political leaders of the Fallen, Servitors are said to be their gods - and the source of their life-sustaining ether. A Prime Servitor is a target worthy of even the greatest sacrifice. Those willing to accept such a challenge will have the eternal gratitude of a City desperate for relief.

Sepiks Prime relies on fanatical reinforcements and its own considerable tactical abilities - including a short-range teleport and a powerful directed energy weapon. Aim for the eye, and break contact if it turns your way.

Strategies and Tactical Advice:

First of all, bring your arc weapons. This is where your hard earned Fatebringer or Timepiece will make its mark. I also highly recommend an arc sniper rifle especially, as a lot of your combat encounters will hopefully happen at safe distances. I found Patience and Time proved its worth here.

There are safe spots that you can take advantage of for each encounter. Set up a defensive posture and only expose as much as you need to extinguish hostile resistance.

Mesh Defense Generator:



Fallen Walker:



Sepiks Prime:



For the last fight, there is something to take note. Inside that small room to the left there is a set of stairs that leads under the boss arena. Have one Fireteam member keep an eye on this location. Fallen Skiffs will drop Dregs and Vandels to try and exploit this hole in your defense. Show them your resolve and the fight will be yours.

Good luck, Guardians.

Ularg fucked around with this message at 12:42 on Nov 18, 2014

Aries
Jun 6, 2006
Computer says no.
Have you received the KontrolFreeks yet Monkeu? Anyone here already have them?

I'm looking to get some as the rubber is starting to peel from my sticks.

Big Floppy
Apr 30, 2006

Aries posted:

Have you received the KontrolFreeks yet Monkeu? Anyone here already have them?

I'm looking to get some as the rubber is starting to peel from my sticks.

I am getting a pair of the orange vortex that should be in Wed.

Also you might want to add this link to the OP. Locations of ghosts found in the beta unless they change these in release, this helped me find ones I didn't know even know about. https://destinyghosts.wordpress.com/

monkeu
Jun 1, 2000

by Reene

Aries posted:

Have you received the KontrolFreeks yet Monkeu? Anyone here already have them?

I'm looking to get some as the rubber is starting to peel from my sticks.

Yeah they actually came yesterday, so took about three weeks from when I ordered them to get to Australia. I obviously haven't been able to try them with Destiny, but I've been playing a bit of The Last Of Us Remastered and I'm really impressed so far. They're concave, really grippy and attach rock solidly to the actual sticks. I got the CQCs and they add just the right amount of height for what I wanted - they're longer but no so much that it's a pain to go from the right stick back to the face buttons. I actually bumped the look sensitivity up a few notches too which I hadn't intended on doing. I actually just ordered a second set for my other controller. Very happy with them! Can't wait to try them with Destiny.

Big Floppy posted:

I am getting a pair of the orange vortex that should be in Wed.

Also you might want to add this link to the OP. Locations of ghosts found in the beta unless they change these in release, this helped me find ones I didn't know even know about. https://destinyghosts.wordpress.com/

Thanks! Adding it to the dead Ghost part of the FAQ now.

Mango Polo
Aug 4, 2007

monkeu posted:

I got the CQCs and they add just the right amount of height for what I wanted - they're longer but no so much that it's a pain to go from the right stick back to the face buttons. I actually bumped the look sensitivity up a few notches too which I hadn't intended on doing. I actually just ordered a second set for my other controller. Very happy with them! Can't wait to try them with Destiny.

Are these the concave or convex ones?

victrix
Oct 30, 2007


This isn't really a Destiny specific tip, but it's really loving important for having a good time in a party so:

Destiny PS4 Owners

:siren: Your pack-in mic is poo poo. :siren:

Complete poo poo. Get a new one. There are many cheap headsets if you want to use speakers, and many solid headphones if you don't.

If you get a new microphone, lower the sensitivity of your mic in the PS4 settings menu, by default it is configured to pick up said completely poo poo pack-in mic.

If you're using speakers + headset, or you have other typical ambient noise near where you play, start playing a loud game at a normal volume for you, turn on the cat/vacuum cleaner/abandoned child/pissed off wife and invite some space bros to your party.

Use them as guinea pigs to confirm the volume level and ambient noise pickup of your mic, you can do the same for them.

The only cruddy thing is that as far as I can tell, the sensitivity setting is some mixture of actual sensitivity and mic amplification, so lowering it also lowers your volume - but if you raise it, your mic gets overdriven and it will pick up every loving noise in your room including the disgusting noise you make while eating potato chips.

So do yourself and your future space friends a favor and sort out your mic situation before Destiny hits, the better to squash everyone in PvP and have a good time in PvE.

monkeu
Jun 1, 2000

by Reene

Mango Polo posted:

Are these the concave or convex ones?

Concave:



http://www.kontrolfreek.com/fps-freek-cqc.html

Excuse the really terrible camo controller skin, but you get the idea. Like I said they're just the right height for me. Any higher and it would be a pain getting to the jump button I'd imagine.

Mango Polo
Aug 4, 2007

monkeu posted:

Concave:



http://www.kontrolfreek.com/fps-freek-cqc.html

Excuse the really terrible camo controller skin, but you get the idea. Like I said they're just the right height for me. Any higher and it would be a pain getting to the jump button I'd imagine.

Oh good. I've seen a few people recommend them, but the convex ones only come in that horrific neon green toxic waste color.

victrix
Oct 30, 2007


I'm a big kontrolfreeks fan, so I can confirm if you don't like the tiny analog sticks on the PS4, they're well worth getting.

There are basically two heights, a low snug one and a taller one. The lower one is nice just to add a grip surface without too much height. The taller one is more useful on the right aiming stick, as it lets you crank up the sensitivity in-game and still retain perfect control and aim due to the increased precision. You also gain the ability to turn and do 180s much faster, something that's very useful in PvP.

I found that I prefer convex, because while I figured they might have grip issues, turns out that isn't the case, most of the patterned kontrolfreeks + the material they use is very grippy, so your hands don't slip.

More importantly, I found concave to be awkward to depress for sprinting (and meleeing, if you're using Jumper like a smart space hero).

But all that said, I'd say grab a four pack that has one high and one low of concave and convex, that way you can try out every possible config and see what you think.

Give yourself a few days or a week if you put the tall one on your aim stick, it's going to feel weird at first.

They seem like a silly and simple thing, but they really do work well.

Kirios
Jan 26, 2010




Is it September 9th yet?

Mango Polo
Aug 4, 2007

Kirios posted:

Is it September 9th yet?

What a silly question, yes it is and we're all playing the game already. You're missing out bro.

e: Your avatar reminded me that there's a Sam Fisher helmet in Destiny :allears:
e2: vvvvvvvv Is this one better?

Mango Polo fucked around with this message at 13:59 on Aug 12, 2014

FishBulb
Mar 29, 2003

Marge, I'd like to be alone with the sandwich for a moment.

Are you going to eat it?

...yes...
That website has terrible mobile formatting.

Underwhelmed
Mar 7, 2004


Nap Ghost

Elswyyr posted:

What's the difference between the current-gen and last-gen versions? I've only got a PS3.

In the final PS3 version, all references to Ghosts will be replaced with Goats, and Peter Dinklage's lines will be replaced with random bleating.

Elswyyr
Mar 4, 2009

Underwhelmed posted:

In the final PS3 version, all references to Ghosts will be replaced with Goats, and Peter Dinklage's lines will be replaced with random bleating.

Sold.

FishBulb
Mar 29, 2003

Marge, I'd like to be alone with the sandwich for a moment.

Are you going to eat it?

...yes...
The goat probably gives better line readings

Amebx
Aug 6, 2007

i'm a shark!!! i'm a SHAAAARK!! suck my diick!! I'M A SHAAARK!!
They removed the Moon Wizard line so it's probably for the best.

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

For how crazy hyped I am for this game I won't even get to play it until near the very end of the year. :(

Ghosts n Gopniks
Nov 2, 2004

Imagine how much more sad and lonely we would be if not for the hard work of lowtax. Here's $12.95 to his aid.
The Destiny beta was when my DS4 rubber started giving up, November launch until late July. I gotta get these KF tops unless Sony's Scandinavian dept get me a new pad quickly.


victrix posted:

Destiny PS4 Owners

:siren: Your pack-in mic is poo poo. :siren:

1) USB sound cards allow usage of far better mics, for those already owning good stuff
2) EXO players sound robotic in voice-comms which is awesome

Ghosts n Gopniks fucked around with this message at 15:02 on Aug 12, 2014

Harrow
Jun 30, 2012

Any bets on how long raids stay no-matchmaking? Personally I think it's a good idea--if they opened it up to random groups, said random groups would inevitably find them too hard and whine all over every possible internet outlet about it--but, well, there will also be whining in this scenario. I'll be surprised if they don't add matchmaking for raids (and make raids easier to accommodate) before the end of the year.

Either that, or they'll go the Blizzard route and have an "LFR" version of any given raid that's easier and matches you with randoms.

Daviclond
May 20, 2006

Bad post sighted! Firing.

victrix posted:

Destiny PS4 Owners

:siren: Your pack-in mic is poo poo. :siren:

Complete poo poo. Get a new one. There are many cheap headsets if you want to use speakers, and many solid headphones if you don't.

I'm buying a Destiny PS4 bundle so thanks for the advance warning. I'm planning on using my 5.1 speakers for audio. Is there a standard, cheap-and-cheerful recommended headset? Can I use my old 360 headset or is that the wrong kind of jack?

e: a google search says wrong jack size, should I look into an adapter or is it more complicated than that?

Probad
Feb 24, 2013

I want to believe!

Daviclond posted:

I'm buying a Destiny PS4 bundle so thanks for the advance warning. I'm planning on using my 5.1 speakers for audio. Is there a standard, cheap-and-cheerful recommended headset? Can I use my old 360 headset or is that the wrong kind of jack?

All white everything

Levantine
Feb 14, 2005

GUNDAM!!!

Daviclond posted:

I'm buying a Destiny PS4 bundle so thanks for the advance warning. I'm planning on using my 5.1 speakers for audio. Is there a standard, cheap-and-cheerful recommended headset? Can I use my old 360 headset or is that the wrong kind of jack?

e: a google search says wrong jack size, should I look into an adapter or is it more complicated than that?

I like this one if youre running game audio through your speakers: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00K786AFE/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Has great sound and a good mic. Earpiece looks big but is pretty comfortable. And it's inexpensive!

Mango Polo
Aug 4, 2007

Harrow posted:

Any bets on how long raids stay no-matchmaking? Personally I think it's a good idea--if they opened it up to random groups, said random groups would inevitably find them too hard and whine all over every possible internet outlet about it--but, well, there will also be whining in this scenario. I'll be surprised if they don't add matchmaking for raids (and make raids easier to accommodate) before the end of the year.

Either that, or they'll go the Blizzard route and have an "LFR" version of any given raid that's easier and matches you with randoms.

I'm guessing not until they release their second raid.

victrix
Oct 30, 2007


Daviclond posted:

I'm buying a Destiny PS4 bundle so thanks for the advance warning. I'm planning on using my 5.1 speakers for audio. Is there a standard, cheap-and-cheerful recommended headset? Can I use my old 360 headset or is that the wrong kind of jack?

e: a google search says wrong jack size, should I look into an adapter or is it more complicated than that?

I haven't heard of any successful adapter uses, there's two options, either plug in a USB headset of any sort to the PS4 directly (should work fine?) or get a headset with a 4 pole 3.5mm jack.

The mentioned Triton above works fine, I use a http://www.amazon.com/Turtle-PlaySt...-1&keywords=p4c because the earpiece has slits behind it (its not solid) for less speaker interference.

Honestly any headset that mirrors the style of the 360/one headset would be perfect if you're using speakers, you don't want a giant ear cup, a simple soft foam earpiece should be plenty.

At some point I may look into a higher quality call center style headset with a good condensor mic, because the aforementioned issue with the PS4 mic sensitivity setting picking up ambient sounds and speaker audio is a huge loving bitch. In the exact same room with the same volume, the 360/One pick up nothing, the PS4 would pick up my speakers every time.

Not a lot of people are complaining about it online, so Sony's not really motivated to do anything about it, and I'm almost positive the issue is because of the poo poo pack-in and the lack of tuning available in software.

Bardeh
Dec 2, 2004

Fun Shoe
How does matchmaking work? Are there central servers, or is it all done peer to peer?

Amebx
Aug 6, 2007

i'm a shark!!! i'm a SHAAAARK!! suck my diick!! I'M A SHAAARK!!

But all the cheeto dust will be more revealing on white!

xxEightxx
Mar 5, 2010

Oh, it's true. You are Brock Landers!
Salad Prong
Great OP, only thing I thought might be worth mentioning is that it is F2P and not a subscription model game. Don't know if that is really that important.

Probad
Feb 24, 2013

I want to believe!

Triggsz posted:

But all the cheeto dust will be more revealing on white!

Daviclond
May 20, 2006

Bad post sighted! Firing.

Levantine posted:

I like this one if youre running game audio through your speakers: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00K786AFE/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Has great sound and a good mic. Earpiece looks big but is pretty comfortable. And it's inexpensive!


victrix posted:

The mentioned Triton above works fine, I use a http://www.amazon.com/Turtle-PlaySt...-1&keywords=p4c because the earpiece has slits behind it (its not solid) for less speaker interference.

Thanks for the suggestions, I went for the Turtle Beach one for no other reason than it was a fiver cheaper in the UK.

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Rap Game Goku
Apr 2, 2008

Word to your moms, I came to drop spirit bombs


xxEightxx posted:

Great OP, only thing I thought might be worth mentioning is that it is F2P and not a subscription model game. Don't know if that is really that important.

There is no subscription, but the PvP and some of the Raids/Strikes do require PS+ or Xbox Live Gold.

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