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Justin Time!
Apr 28, 2013


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DoubleDonut
Oct 22, 2010



LaTex Fetish
Oct 11, 2010

If only I could get her to sharpen me axe!



what's this guy tryna say?

SPACE HOMOS
Jan 12, 2005



The idea that one can forego logic and become a true gaming is the way of the future. Once we allow these alternative realities to become out own we can interpret the ancient cryptic language l33t and become one with fatal1ty.

DoubleDonut
Oct 22, 2010



The true profit of having Ben Kuchera defend you on a lovely website

Kilroy
Oct 1, 2000

"Listen pal, I've been in the games industry at EA for seven years. I think I know what people want."


games journalism

zen death robot
May 27, 2001


LaTex Fetish posted:

what's this guy tryna say?

anything possible to get people to read his lovely articles

Mr. Pumroy
May 20, 2001

how i wonder what you are


we must shed ourselves of the desire for worldly things to attain the nirvana that the kuch inhabits

Mr.Unique-Name
Jul 5, 2002



It's its not it's

01011001
Dec 26, 2012


Winner #13 of the 2k14 #Gamergate Shit Show
Do not talk to me if your a SJW MRA PUA fucktarded Shitlord, (PS: GJ on ruining videogame journalism twitter drama MODS).
i'm bitchmade and tried to change my av, which i shouldn't do lol!!!

ben kuchera is our misfortune

Action Tortoise
Feb 18, 2012

A wolf howls.
I know how he feels.


"no one cares about sales. they care about profits."

i don't get this statement. aren't profits entirely dependent on sales?

Harthacnut
Jul 29, 2014



Action Tortoise posted:

"no one cares about sales. they care about profits."

i don't get this statement. aren't profits entirely dependent on sales?

No, because, you see *insert panicked rambling*

No Such Thing
Oct 12, 2012

self-destructive


Action Tortoise posted:

"no one cares about sales. they care about profits."

i don't get this statement. aren't profits entirely dependent on sales?

porting a game to two consoles does require more work and money than making it for just one. The chance that the increased game coverage wouldn't make that money back is really low though, yea.

01011001
Dec 26, 2012


Winner #13 of the 2k14 #Gamergate Shit Show
Do not talk to me if your a SJW MRA PUA fucktarded Shitlord, (PS: GJ on ruining videogame journalism twitter drama MODS).
i'm bitchmade and tried to change my av, which i shouldn't do lol!!!

Action Tortoise posted:

"no one cares about sales. they care about profits."

i don't get this statement. aren't profits entirely dependent on sales?

not 100% entirely because you have sticky things like profit margins and price expectations on different platforms but yeah selling more games is more profit. you could make an argument that being timed exclusive isnt a bad thing from the publisher perspective (anyone who is going to buy the game will buy it after whatever delay is available anyway, there will be double dippers, they get money/perks from microsoft for doing it) but he is probably not making that argument so

DoubleDonut
Oct 22, 2010



01011001 posted:

not 100% entirely because you have sticky things like profit margins and price expectations on different platforms but yeah selling more games is more profit. you could make an argument that being timed exclusive isnt a bad thing from the publisher perspective (anyone who is going to buy the game will buy it after whatever delay is available anyway, there will be double dippers, they get money/perks from microsoft for doing it) but he is probably not making that argument so

also there's the part where he says that he's still right because the sales don't matter, but then literally two minutes later he's also right because somehow this will also help sales, which don't matter, unless they do matter

01011001
Dec 26, 2012


Winner #13 of the 2k14 #Gamergate Shit Show
Do not talk to me if your a SJW MRA PUA fucktarded Shitlord, (PS: GJ on ruining videogame journalism twitter drama MODS).
i'm bitchmade and tried to change my av, which i shouldn't do lol!!!

the conclusion to draw is that ben kuchera is somehow making money off this, despite being as demonstrably terrible at his stated job as possible, because his actual job is to get chucklefucks to visit the site he spews his dumb opinions on. do not give polygon hits. thanks

No Such Thing
Oct 12, 2012

self-destructive


DoubleDonut posted:

also there's the part where he says that he's still right because the sales don't matter, but then literally two minutes later he's also right because somehow this will also help sales, which don't matter, unless they do matter

If he's being paid by Microsoft, the game sales don't matter, only the increased console sales that an exclusive will bring in. And really, what normal gamer would be excited by exclusivity in this day and age.

Action Tortoise
Feb 18, 2012

A wolf howls.
I know how he feels.


01011001 posted:

not 100% entirely because you have sticky things like profit margins and price expectations on different platforms but yeah selling more games is more profit. you could make an argument that being timed exclusive isnt a bad thing from the publisher perspective (anyone who is going to buy the game will buy it after whatever delay is available anyway, there will be double dippers, they get money/perks from microsoft for doing it) but he is probably not making that argument so

okay. that makes more sense.

DoubleDonut posted:

also there's the part where he says that he's still right because the sales don't matter, but then literally two minutes later he's also right because somehow this will also help sales, which don't matter, unless they do matter

yeah, it's how he's repeating sales over and over again that's really confusing.

Gimbal lock
Dec 28, 2008

Incoming top secret message:
I love you


Microsoft gets a big name game that's exclusive to their platform when it matters most: when the game is new and before the holidays. If you want to play the game for Xmas, you need an xbone. Square Enix probably gets risk mitigation out of it: Microsoft cuts them a deal where they forego the distribution costs that they usually take for releasing a game on their platform.

Obviously, Square might be betting that the lost sales involved in the decision will be smaller than what they'll save from Microsoft's cut, especially since they'll recoup some of the initial losses when releasing on the other platforms later on.

It's more likely though that they think that they might ultimately be making less money from this in the future, but the deal offers a good amount of much needed security, in which the deal assures a minimum amount of profit. Less profits out of a critical success for sure, but if things go terribly wrong, the deal assures that Microsoft ends up absorbing part of the blow.

The Taint Reaper
Sep 4, 2012



It's coming to the other platforms after the holidays anyways I don't see the big deal.

So Microsoft tricks some guys into buying the Xbox, that won't save it from it's eventual crash.

program666
Aug 22, 2013

The Space Neckbeard


No Such Thing posted:

If he's being paid by Microsoft, the game sales don't matter, only the increased console sales that an exclusive will bring in. And really, what normal gamer would be excited by exclusivity in this day and age.
If you go on a console war thread like the xbox one bashing thread they will defend exclusivity (since lots of them bash the xbone because they actually defend some other console)

The Taint Reaper
Sep 4, 2012



program666 posted:

If you go on a console war thread like the xbox one bashing thread they will defend exclusivity (since lots of them bash the xbone because they actually defend some other console)

It's not so much as defending another console so much as defending the standard that other consoles established.

The Bone is pretty much the lowest tier console you could want. It's everything you never wanted,

program666
Aug 22, 2013

The Space Neckbeard


The Taint Reaper posted:

It's not so much as defending another console so much as defending the standard that other consoles established.
Yeah, that's what I said, console users are gonna pleb. If you think people won't get excited about exclusivity you've got another think coming.

DoubleDonut
Oct 22, 2010



Gimbal lock posted:

Microsoft gets a big name game that's exclusive to their platform when it matters most: when the game is new and before the holidays. If you want to play the game for Xmas, you need an xbone. Square Enix probably gets risk mitigation out of it: Microsoft cuts them a deal where they forego the distribution costs that they usually take for releasing a game on their platform.

Obviously, Square might be betting that the lost sales involved in the decision will be smaller than what they'll save from Microsoft's cut, especially since they'll recoup some of the initial losses when releasing on the other platforms later on.

It's more likely though that they think that they might ultimately be making less money from this in the future, but the deal offers a good amount of much needed security, in which the deal assures a minimum amount of profit. Less profits out of a critical success for sure, but if things go terribly wrong, the deal assures that Microsoft ends up absorbing part of the blow.

Sure, that makes sense. If he had used words that actually meant things instead of vomiting up a self-contradiction in the rush to prove that He Is The Correct Person On The Internet, this thread wouldn't exist. But then he wouldn't be Ben Kuchera.

Edit: I didn't read the original article; I'm mostly just laughing at a "journalist" having arguments on twitter that are about as coherent as the average gamefaqs post.

Also can we just have a dedicated Games Journalism Making Me Lol Thread? I like to know the stupid poo poo games writers do but I'm not willing to actually follow any of them except Giant Bomb

Falsum
May 10, 2013

Crazy for the Bros

I get how it's good for Microsoft, but I don't get how it's good for Tomb Raider sales since it would sell more on five systems than on one. I also have doubts about it being better for Tomb Raider profits but I guess SE is getting a big fat pile of cash from Microsoft.

Trick question really because Ben is retarded and the true Tomb Raider game is coming out on all systems in early December

But Rocks Hurt Head
Jun 30, 2003

I drop the reins. Where will the turmoil end?
Fleets of taxis stall
in the fog, passengers fall
asleep. Gas pours

from a tricolored stack.
Locking their doors,
people from offices huddle together,
telling the same story over and over.



Please, tell me more about how the Xbox One (the third Xbox lmao), sucks

Mr.Unique-Name
Jul 5, 2002



But Rocks Hurt Head posted:

Please, tell me more about how the Xbox One (the third Xbox lmao), sucks

oh boy have I got the thread for you, friend

matrix ripoff
Mar 16, 2005


i liked ben kuchera for about three, maybe four articles when he was still writing for penny arcade, and i started realizing what a loving sack of doorknobs he is

The Taint Reaper
Sep 4, 2012



Rise of the Tomb Raider is going to have you fight mammoths, sabertooths, Dinosaurs, bears, polar bears, Orcas, and giant penguins apparently.

Wormskull
Aug 23, 2009



Hahaha these empty suit fucktards sure are out of touch. Hilarious poo poo as always from the Tweet Repeat Crew.

01011001
Dec 26, 2012


Winner #13 of the 2k14 #Gamergate Shit Show
Do not talk to me if your a SJW MRA PUA fucktarded Shitlord, (PS: GJ on ruining videogame journalism twitter drama MODS).
i'm bitchmade and tried to change my av, which i shouldn't do lol!!!

DoubleDonut posted:

Also can we just have a dedicated Games Journalism Making Me Lol Thread? I like to know the stupid poo poo games writers do but I'm not willing to actually follow any of them except Giant Bomb

start one if you think you can make one thats actually funny instead of abject garbage like every other similar thread on this forum

Wormskull
Aug 23, 2009



Games journalism isn't funny to laugh at. Go find posts from the Games forum on this website for some serious LOLs.

dendy crew
Jun 1, 2011

Dendy!, Dendy!, We love Dendy! Dendy - Everyone plays it!


this is not an osamu sato thread

fronz
Apr 7, 2009



dendy crew posted:

this is not an osamu sato thread

You are correct.

Ristolaz
Sep 29, 2005




Y-Hat
Feb 10, 2007

I'll get you, I'll burn you, I'll crush you, I'll flush you down, down
The toilet where you'll spiral around, round
Awwww tick... tick tick tick


hey look ben kuchera is being stupid as hell, what are the odds

surc
Aug 17, 2004

Tenuki Tanuki.


So I guess there's a new tomb raider coming out is the moral of all this? Is it a sequel to the last new tomb raider? Becasue I enjoyed that one quite a lot when I bought it on sale.

matrix ripoff
Mar 16, 2005


Y-Hat posted:

hey look ben kuchera is being stupid as hell, what are the odds

*looks at odds*

Uhm, well, er, that is to say, they are *adjusts bowtie* they're very good. I mean, as close to being one hundread percent without being, uh *shrugs emphatically* one hundred percent.

*coughs, artificially*

The Taint Reaper
Sep 4, 2012



Being a games journalist looks like fun, where in the seven hells do you even apply for a job like that? IS it like a strictly a west coast profession because I have seen nothing in the east coast for positions like that.

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matrix ripoff
Mar 16, 2005


THE NEW TOMB RAIDER 2 IS GOING TO COME OUT ON THE X-BOX ONE BEFORE THE PLAY-STATION 4 OR THE PERSONAL-COMPUTER

YOU KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS

*hauls out massive, giant sign that says IT'S A BAD GAME*

THAT MEANS IT'S A BAD GAME. OKAY? NOW, WHEN IT IS FREELY AVAILABLE ON OTHER PLATFORMS THAT DO NOT BEGIN WITH THE LETTER X, BUT INSTEAD WITH THE MAGICAL LETTER P - P CAN MEAN PLAYSTATION OR PERSONAL COMPUTER; PLEASE REMEMBER THIS - THEN AND ONLY THEN WILL THE NEW TOMB RAIDER 2 MAGICALLY TRANSFORM INTO AN OKAY GAME. OKAY? I DON'T loving CARE HOW FUN OR GOOD IT IS; SINCE IT DIDN'T COME OUT ON MY PLATFORM OF CHOICE FIRST, IT IS FOREVER TAINTED, AND FILLED WITH COMEDY-FAIL AIDS, AND SUCKS, AND MAYBE ONE DAY I'LL LIKE IT.

BUT NOT DURING THIS GENERATION!!!!!!

SQUEENIX - YOU SHOULDA TALKED TO ME BEFORE YOU DID ANY OF THIS, BUT YOU DIDN'T, AND NOW YOU SOW THE SEEDS OF RUIN

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