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mepstein73 posted:If this is Mother's memory... shouldn't there be a Psyder somewhere? This was the one thing keeping her trapped, if you recall. Let's find the memory-Psyder and get knitting. Fight Mother with her own nightmare, made real in sacred binary. This!
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Shoot her. Then knit. Find some eldar on the Path of Knitting to help us.
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Aug 19, 2015 17:44
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If Mother could put Tanya in any body it stands to reason she could plug herself into Tanya as a malevolent-rear end hitchhiker, not unlike that Eldar did to us at some point. Sorry, Mother. No deal. Eduard_stop_Her_here.txt. Try to find a memory-psyder and also, maybe, wrestle a little plot loose as to how and why Mother was trapped at the bottom of a dark hole by a malevolent anti-psyker(?) xeno(?) creature. Might be our last chance to learn more about that situation. Could be awesome to see its surrealistic memories of that mess. I do like to believe Mother absorbed Abraxus, though.  Good ol' human ingenuity snuffing out/absorbing a Chaos daemon and taking its place.
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Aug 19, 2015 18:15
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There is precedent for this sort of thing, by the way. A Slaaneshi daemon prince captured and drained the power of three greater daemons purely by force of ego, and Slaanesh thought it was hilarious and elevated her. That said, the people who can do this still need to be cleansed and purged with extreme prejudice.
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Aug 19, 2015 19:49
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Bullets cost ammo. Gather all your enemies in one place, set them against each other, then shell the remainder. We can wipe out a psyker/memetic threat, a chaos deamon and an entire craft world of filthy Xeno souls in one fell swoop. It's perfect, almost as if someone planned this...
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Aug 19, 2015 19:53
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Nyaa posted:Can we take advantage of the time travel properties of the wetway to connect all eldar soul and infinity circuits of the past (and future if necessary), and funnel them all to help with that god ritual they were doing? Again, why would the Eldar help a bunch of Mon'keigh like that? And what do we gain by helping the Eldar birth their god of the dead and fulfilling their ultimate gambit, setting up a win condition for them? Also, kill the gently caress out of Mother. Sorry Tanya, you're dead. We have already grieved for your loss, and will grieve some more in private after this, but it has to be done.
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Aug 19, 2015 19:53
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Oh yeah, I'm reasonably certain Mother probably did eat Abraxus or suborn it - but I'm also certain Mother needs to be annihilated.
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Aug 19, 2015 19:53
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If that were really Tanya she'd be trying to shoot her way out of this shitshow right about now. gently caress off and die. Continue firing
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Aug 19, 2015 23:31
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Faces “A show of good faith, you said.” “Yup. We aren’t your enemy, Ohone.” “Thing is… I don’t want her.” She blinked in surprise. “What?” “Tanya is dead. My friend is dead. How dare you wear her face?” Your plasma blast took off her head, leaving a body bisected at the chest. You walked over to the body, stepping on the weeping faces of Eldar as you did so. “I will not negotiate with the Great Enemy. There will be no truce.” The body didn’t respond, and you didn’t really expect it to. Instead, you began walking to the other side of the city, the path you had done so long ago. You consciously ignored visiting Mother’s old house - this entire realm was inside her head, so one place was as much good as any other. There was one thing you wanted to see, however. If this was inside Gorgon’s mind, then what were the foundations? The unconscious fears and desires that drove it? This city, of course - her prison for all the generations of the Sub-sixers. She had slowly gone insane there, devouring other psykers as some sort of sick spider, buried beneath the earth. If this was her prison… what were her guards? And so you advanced up the elevator shaft, jet-pack and wings making an easy go of it. The previous levels went by in a flash, things that had taken days of travel last time. You saw where Tanya had shown you the small garrison and you had collected some of your first skulls. You saw the place where you shot the cowards of the HQ company. And you saw the old memorial, warning you of Mother. You were tempted to see if the inscription had changed, but decided against it. You were here for something else. Kilometers of coiled webbing, a thinking beast spread over an arena of neural tissue. The guardian who had kept Mother trapped below, by happenstance or fortunate planning. Were the psiders put here because she was too dangerous? Or did she become dangerous by being trapped by them? You wondered what they would say, these nightmares of Mother’s mind. Your augmented eyes pierced the blackness easily - you had come a long way in the years since you had been here last. You could see the great psider, sitting sullen on a hill of skulls. Its ecology came to you in a flash - the devouring of explorers, processing their neural tissue for its own use. A species so dangerous and other, that even an insane Alpha class psyker couldn’t fight it. The psider shifted its great weight, and looked down at you. You saw your own face looking at you, blinking with gleaming golden eyes. “Hello, Ohone.”
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Aug 19, 2015 23:31
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Okay this is just Chaos bullshit all the way down. It's clearly not going to work. Only one thing we can do. Bleach
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Aug 19, 2015 23:40
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Arkanomen posted:Okay this is just Chaos bullshit all the way down. It's clearly not going to work. Only one thing we can do. Woah, hold up there. Gather more intel. It's here for a reason; ascertain reason first, THEN bleach.
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Aug 19, 2015 23:51
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"Hello, Abraxus. Are you trapped here?"
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Aug 19, 2015 23:54
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Golden Eyes, still daemon. SHOOT IT
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Aug 19, 2015 23:57
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"Holy gently caress, a talking spider! Say, you wouldn't happen to be interested in some juicy psyker bits, would you?"
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Aug 19, 2015 23:58
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No, the enemy lies. Even stopping to listen dooms you. Bleach it Ohone, BLEACH IT ALL! Cleanse this place. Xenos and Psykers and Demons. UNCLEAN!!! We should have melted this planet to slag long ago.
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Aug 19, 2015 23:58
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mepstein73 posted:Woah, hold up there. Gather more intel. It's here for a reason; ascertain reason first, THEN bleach. I guess I vote for figuring out the most plausible angle for trying to separate the entities. e: combined they are more than the sum of their parts, so let's undo that. Also, food for thought: Abraxus is "just" a daemon, Mother is a weird, unique and terrifying psyker entity that is powerful enough to make us at least CONSIDER it as powerful enough to merge with, rather than be eaten by, a daemon. All that's to say if we eventually have to prioritize killing one before trying to end the other I vote for snuffing out Mother first. poor life choice fucked around with this message at 01:34 on Aug 20, 2015 |
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Aug 20, 2015 01:31
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poor life choice posted:I guess I vote for figuring out the most plausible angle for trying to separate the entities. e: combined they are more than the sum of their parts, so let's undo that. I think freeing Abraxas would be the better idea. The demon is trapped and being used by mother. Lets untrap the demon which takes away from Mother's power and enters a third (or fith or sixth) player, one that will undoubtedly hate mother more than us. Once we've dealt with a weakened mother we can deal with the demon. The demon is just a demon, mother is the real threat.
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Aug 20, 2015 04:48
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Would exterminatus even work on something this powerful? Regardless, set everything on fire.
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Aug 20, 2015 05:10
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paragon1 posted:Would exterminatus even work on something this powerful? Nope, this might be our best shot at hurting it.
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Aug 20, 2015 05:42
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paragon1 posted:Would exterminatus even work on something this powerful? No. It would destroy the infinity circuit, rendering the souls vulnerable to Slaanesh, and defeat the purpose of our mission (to deny the Great Enemy its strength).
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Aug 20, 2015 05:44
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This is my new vote. gently caress this, we're taking our toys and leaving: 1) use the eldar souls to try to wear a psychic hole in Gorgon, a weak spot for Fabiyan to strike. I'm fuzzy on how this works but the rules are made up and the points don't matter, so let's think that the Eldar souls can influence "reality" in that way. 2) Fabiyan strikes at that spot 3) Gorgon pops like a balloon, or is weakened and has to break into its separate pieces, or something. I hope. 4) We can suddenly, comparatively mop up against a super psyker and a regular ol' daemon. Once we're outside Gorgon, and Gorgon isn't a thing anymore, we can go back to using that super awesome grey goo swarm to jack it up. I like this plan because it saves the infinity circuit, henceforth known as Circuit City, and also doesn't involve summoning another daemon inside Gorgon or whatever oh my god IRC stop. It also involves no longer being inside a daemon, which in hindsight was not exactly a position of strength. Let's leverage there hopefully not being as much literal or metaphorical armor from the inside of this thing and paint a big ol' X for Fabiyan, a psychic call for Exterminatus in the form of our husband using a big ol' sword.
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Aug 20, 2015 06:07
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Okay here's a better plan. 1. Modify Mother's Memetic Hazard to something like "Serve Ohone. She is Mother." 2. Infect all the Eldar souls with it 3. Make a deal with Abraxus. All the souls for our safe passage 4. Call in Anna and ask her to send in her own Greater Deamon for the free souls. 5. Get Fab's de-posssed and get the hell off this planet. 6. Quarantine the planet but leave some servitors or something to tell us when the deamons are leashed to our control 7. GET OUR rear end TO MARS gently caress this psychic bullshit, we got an AI to serve.
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Aug 20, 2015 06:10
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Arkanomen posted:Okay here's a better plan. gently caress NO poor life choice posted:This is my new vote.
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poor life choice posted:This is my new vote. This sounds like the most realistic plan so far. RandomPauI fucked around with this message at 06:18 on Aug 20, 2015 |
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Aug 20, 2015 06:12
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Divide our enemies and reconquer Circuit City
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Aug 20, 2015 06:13
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HiHo ChiRho posted:Divide our enemies and reconquer Circuit City A rogue trader always gets the best deals.
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Aug 20, 2015 06:21
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For purposes of setting up Krieg Heaven, summoning Anna won't kill the webway side. So, there's that.
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Aug 20, 2015 06:52
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No summoning. No bullshit. Tear it down. Tear everything down. Anything that has any semblance of structure beyond the grey swarms of wrath or Eldar soulstuff, tear it down. Consume. Destroy. Exterminate. EXTERMINATE.
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LowellDND posted:For purposes of setting up Krieg Heaven, summoning Anna won't kill the webway side. So, there's that. I'm adding try to get Anastasia to come mop up Mother after we pop/weaken Gorgon to my plan. Because the OP is right: [00:30] <lowel> thats how I hope you use the favor, yeah [00:31] <lowel> it would let me write a truly epic finale I like the idea of burning the favor on Anastasia kaiju battling another agent of Chaos versus, say, trying to use a greater daemon of Slaanesh for some humanitarian aid or to influence a planetary governor or something. Cash that favor in before it burns a hole in our pocket and soul. poor life choice fucked around with this message at 07:15 on Aug 20, 2015 |
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Aug 20, 2015 07:10
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poor life choice posted:I'm adding try to get Anastasia to come mop up Mother after we pop/weaken Gorgon to my plan. Because the OP is right:
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Aug 20, 2015 20:01
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Bleach paragon vansandman Gather more intel mepstein73 there bias two zybourne clock untrap outrail take our toys and leave poor life choice random hiho Summon anna ark grog Votes still seem pretty scattered.
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Aug 20, 2015 21:11
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What if we fuse with million of eldar soul like the emperor? Megaphone.
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Aug 20, 2015 21:15
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Bleach
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Aug 20, 2015 21:28
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Dance the interpretive dance of "gently caress Chaos"
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Aug 20, 2015 21:30
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Bleach, whatever that means. Suffer not the daemon to live.
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Aug 20, 2015 21:50
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Bleach means ex terminus with us still on planet, as I understand it.
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Aug 20, 2015 22:06
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LowellDND posted:take our toys and leave I am in favor of trying to summon Anna but ideally while we're trying to weaken/leave Gorgon on our own. I feel less good about it if we're just dropping to our knees and hailin' Satan.
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Aug 20, 2015 22:12
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What if we Summon Anna AND Bleach it all to hell ?!? Change my vote to this!
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Aug 20, 2015 22:18
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poor life choice posted:I am in favor of trying to summon Anna but ideally while we're trying to weaken/leave Gorgon on our own. I feel less good about it if we're just dropping to our knees and hailin' Satan.
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mepstein73 posted:Woah, hold up there. Gather more intel. It's here for a reason; ascertain reason first, THEN bleach. Do this, but DONT EVER EXTERMINATUS THIS PLANET, who knows what will happen to the Eldar souls if we destroy the planet and with it the Infinity Circuit. My guess would be, that they go straight into the warp to be nommed on, obviously we don't want that.
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