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I think we can be inquisitive here without that being weakness. The guy's dangling some interesting info, I'll take that bait.
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sullat posted:Odin? I've heard some interesting references to that in my research on the finding on Golgotha. One of the abominable intelligences of the Dark Ages? upon further reflection Bring up Lucifer in regards to Odin, referencing anastasia and our time on titan instead of golgotha. "Hey fabricator-general, that sounds a lot like...." Its a way to bring up the subject and discuss it, at least.
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Waci posted:"Did it work?"
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Questions that need answering “Did it work?” He chuckled humorlessly. “Closed loops, as you discovered. Odin went off like a drat fool, talking about how he was needed at Ragnarok. Well, it killed him, sure enough, but it wasn’t the end of things.” “I think some people might contest that last bit.” “Heh. What do you think, are we in the end of things?” “If the Throne is failing, and the armies are failing… Maybe the end of things as we know them.” “Ah, to be young again.” “You think it’s the end of things?” He glanced at you. “Are you trying to convince me, or yourself?” You paused, changed the subject. “When was this? Who was Odin?” “A long time ago, and I used the Webways to go back even further. Odin was… a great warrior. A leader.” “In the Great Crusade?” “Sure. Point was, I tried to warn him, and I sometimes think I caused it.” You made a show of being confused. “The Heresy?” He waved it off. “Old events, Ohone, from long ago. I get a chance to talk, and I end up telling old stories no one remembers.” “Who were you fighting? Orks?” “Machines.” “Ah. Iron Men.” He glanced away. “What happened afterwards?” A shrug. “We tried to pick up the pieces, those of us who survived. It took a long time.” “Is that how you became Fabricator?” “In a roundabout sort of way, I suppose.” “So you entered the Webways as a Magi, tried to convince Odin, and it didn’t work? How did you know about Odin, decide to choose him to try to change?” “It scarcely matters at this point, don’t you think?” (edited ending) Loel fucked around with this message at 18:52 on Oct 16, 2015 |
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(edit) (for those who saw it, I got tangled in my plots and it went to a weird place) K, so. Let's focus this a bit. Do we tell him about Athena? If not, is there anything else you want to ask him? Finally, do we want a Titan test fight? (my line of thinking is that we're mostly just having conversations at this point, and I think we should get back to the plot  )
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Oct 16, 2015 18:47
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No, don't tell him. Knowledge is power, guard it well. And yes, of course we want a Titan death match- why would you even ask?
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Oct 16, 2015 19:00
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Kinetica posted:No, don't tell him. Knowledge is power, guard it well. Thought you might want to save that poor Imperator for Golgotha But I guess we should blow up centuries of labor for entertainment
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Oct 16, 2015 19:00
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LowellDND posted:Thought you might want to save that poor Imperator for Golgotha Psh, Athena can just make us another one
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Oct 16, 2015 19:01
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Odin was a friend. He knew Athena. Let's show him everything was not lost. Full disclosure
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Oct 16, 2015 19:04
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Tell him
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Arkanomen posted:Odin was a friend. He knew Athena. Let's show him everything was not lost.
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Ralith posted:No, again, Odin was one of the rebellious AIs that got us in this situation in the first place. Tell him about Athena. I am enjoying this conversation and like the idea of the leader of Mars being on board(?) with an intact, not-evil(?????) Mind would be awesome A+ cool & good. Also, the edited post owned. I thought it was very revelatory that the 40K universe is in an autistic child's snowglobe.
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I think we should ask Athena when we get back to the beast if she wants to talk to him. We really shouldn't reveal her without her consent. I'm sure we can arrange it at that point.
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Oct 16, 2015 19:42
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Set up battle bot --> talk to athena ---> decide ---> ??? ---> heresy
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Set up titan test. We can ask Athena if she think we should tell the fabricator-general about her.
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Waci posted:Set up titan test. We can ask Athena if she think we should tell the fabricator-general about her. This seems sufficiently prudent.
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Waci posted:Set up titan test. We can ask Athena if she think we should tell the fabricator-general about her. plan waci
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Plan Waci sounds good. I like Space Grandpa, but we should consult with Athena before we give away anything more.
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Plan Waci
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Also, I would like to save the titan battle for later. Actually, does anyone else find it interesting that he describes "what unmakes a human" more concretely than what makes one? How do we know he's not gone traitor already? Assuming that Tech Priests are involved in keeping the Corpse God alive, who's to say he's not ushering him along to his demise? I want to ask, instead of offering hope, "What is your current plan for after the end?" Will he serve the Enemy? Will he retreat and start afresh? How would he feel about leaving and starting afresh with us a few millennia early? How loyal is he to the Emperor?
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Find a table and flip it. I'm not really sure why, but that seems to be what we want to do lately.
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The removed post could be said to do that  So if you reeeeeeeallly want to...
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Do we know that the Corpse-god and his warpy flashlight are attracting bugs into the room? If so we should make the case that it's imperative that non-warp FTL be phased in ASAP regardless of what happens to the guy on the chair. Secondary to that we also need to revive him (if only he can be dismayed over what happened to his atheistic legacy).
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LowellDND posted:The removed post could be said to do that I think revealing Athena is a supremely high risk/reward option and I love it. Mars just straight up told us that the center cannot hold. So we show him our whole hand. If he turns out to be a Bad Man maybe Athena can, I dunno, electronically brown note him and we escape or she takes over. If Athena is a Bad Man and grandpa Rick isn't, well, we pick a side. If they're both good, this is the best thing. If they're both Bad Mans, well... tim_curry_laugh.mp3
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Switch to the Ultrasonic frequency Athena taught us. "One of your sisters is alive. If you still want to fix things, she can help." He's just let slip that he's one of the AI. From the context of things I'm guessing he's a lost shell like the Athena on Titan, it makes sense he'd try to rebuild some semblance of his processing power here on Mars. Can't fault his choice of cover ID, it's hard to call him on his mechanical nature when he's leading the literal machine cult.
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Tran posted:Switch to the Ultrasonic frequency Athena taught us. "One of your sisters is alive. If you still want to fix things, she can help." THAT's what was tickling my brain. He did kind of let slip he's an AI didn't he. Tran Plan
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LowellDND posted:A shrug. “We tried to pick up the pieces, those of us who survived. It took a long time.” Ain't a whole lotta' ways he could've survived from the Fall to now :P
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Tran posted:Ain't a whole lotta' ways he could've survived from the Fall to now :P
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FULL AND OPEN HONESTY WITH OUR COOL SPACE VOID DRAGON AI GRANDPA
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Full disclose Ark sniper plc tran deadmeat5150 paragon volmarias battlebot! and ask athena Nyaa Waci Outrail Xun Swedish gnarl Don’t tell Kinetica more info mepstein73 Intriguingly close
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PLAN TRAN 16:28 lowel who might be considered good at telling the future, out of the pantheons? 16:28 Grognan uhh 16:28 lowel I am unsure 16:28 Grognan a minor AI named Cassandra? 16:29 Grognan gently caress me if the olympians were vulnerable to chaos we have problems 16:29 Grognan Ares and Aphrodite might go off the rails 16:30 lowel <3 16:30 Grognan Hephaestus would have forged mars, like ninety percent sure 16:30 Grognan ohshit 16:30 lowel there is one BIG reveal outside mars that we're gunna see 16:30 Grognan Apollo was the god of prophecy 16:30 Grognan patron of the Oracle Grognan fucked around with this message at 00:31 on Oct 17, 2015 |
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Slice of Life LXXI The Warp is viewed as an ocean - this is well known. It has its tides, its currents, its doldrums. That is the whole point of the Astropaths - to find the currents that allow passage, that allow for faster-than-light travel. Of course, this metaphor isn’t a precise one - the currents travel through time as well as space, and it is a not-uncommon thing for a ship to arrive a few weeks before it was expected, a few weeks before it even left. So perhaps it was to be expected that the Hunger-Fleets of Samech, the Hellforge, would come screaming out of the Warp, ripping vast chasms in real-space, responding to a message that hadn’t been sent yet. They can come at all speed, as fast and as many as possible, screaming through the Warp on the flames of witch-pyre engines. Thousands of ships, living and ugly things, bent and twisted, appearing suddenly in the orbit of Golgotha. The war was supposed to be over, there. Golgotha had thrown off the xeno, had begun the rebuilding for the Crusade in the nearby sector. The hives were full of life, again, and megatons of ammo and weapons were being put into orbit, beginning their long journey to fight the Tyranids. There were guards, sure - scattered fleets of the Imperial Navy - but most had pushed on, to the more necessary battles. Daemon engines and warp batteries, screaming howls of blood, liquid fire and laughing madmen. That was what had come to Golgotha, the Place of the Skulls.
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^^^  Grognan posted:16:30 lowel there is one BIG reveal outside mars that we're gunna see
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quote:The Warp is viewed as an ocean - this is well known. Pretty big well to hold an entire ocean!
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Arkanomen posted:Pretty big well to hold an entire ocean! The well isn't holding the ocean, it just knows about it from passing rain clouds.
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I've made up my mind. Spill the beans on Athena.
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Woop! Not a big deal, Athena is encased in a stasis shield and if they dig too deep they'll find her army of Dark Age tech machines gestating in the mantle.
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