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RA Rx posted:Are we really doing the whole true communism has never been attempted thing? No, we're doing the communism does not equal Bolshevism thing. And the criticisms commonly leveled at socialism and communism are equally valid when applied to many other systems thing. But more importantly, we were doing the "the thread has moved on and we we're back to talking about visions for a fictitious far future galactic space society" thing.
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paragon1 posted:No, we're doing the communism does not equal Bolshevism thing. And the criticisms commonly leveled at socialism and communism are equally valid when applied to many other systems thing. It really is a good question, and is really going to be dependent on what kind of technology we're going to be able to mass produce and disseminate. Instantaneous FTL alone would be a game changer for logistics and administration.
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paragon1 posted:But more importantly, we were doing the "the thread has moved on and we we're back to talking about visions for a fictitious far future galactic space society" thing. The benefit of forming some sort of alternate society is to majorly screw up the great enemy.
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sniper4625 posted:It really is a good question, and is really going to be dependent on what kind of technology we're going to be able to mass produce and disseminate. Instantaneous FTL alone would be a game changer for logistics and administration. Or "near" instantaneous at any rate. If we get actually instantaneous FTL I vote we leave the galaxy in a colony ship and make sure no one else has one to follow us in, since we'll be able to go effectively anywhere in the universe.  Nyaa posted:The universe just got big nuked to pieces. Now is a good time to implement new law and rule for this new age of ONEGOD. Also, we are inquisitor, we are the law. Seriously the Imperium as it was was pretty much a Chaos food factory. Who even knows how bad its gotten with the major ramping up of mass death. Especially since apparently the most common reaction to the immediately available food running out in the Imperium is cannibalism.
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So the remaining chaos gods are: Nurgle: Disease and decay. Slaanesh: Excess and hedonism. Tzeentch: Who the gently caress knows. Scheming? So Nurgle is easy to beat in this brave new galaxy, just make everyone mostly metal and disease and decay should go away pretty quick like. Slaanesh seems less easy, but hopefully without crazy levels of famine and disease to reinforce class strata and a push towards equality and maybe some emotional restraint (s)he could be weakened. I have no idea what to do about Tzeentch. Change less? The whole point of the brave new humans seems to be to change our nature substantially so... Yeah. Regarding instantaneous FTL travel, that poo poo is crazy but doesn't necessarily come with infinite range. If you can instantly jump 30 LY but then have to wait a while, is that super busted? (Yes, this is the KF drive from battletech.)
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I always saw Nurgle and Tzeentch as kind of zero-sum. One waxes and the other wanes. You're perfect just the way you are vs. Always Be Changing.
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Olothreutes posted:So the remaining chaos gods are: I wonder how much damage was done to Slaanesh with all those Pleasure Worlds going up in smoke? The thing about it is that Slaanesh wasn't even created by human action, but by the hedonistic excess of an Eldar society that is now very very dead (and surely losing his/her primary meat soldiers stung quite a bit too). Excise that tumor and there's a decent chance of equilibrium being restored, possibly in the person of a parallel warp construct that isn't so insanely malicious.
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Given the state of the Galaxy as it stands - Tzeentch is probably as powerful as it has ever been, and Nurgle and Slaanesh probably have to team up to keep from being consumed or destroyed by Tzeentch (assuming it is aggressively hegemonizing as Chaos seems to be). Hell they may already be part of the Tzeentchian Oversoul and not know it.
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I have to imagine that whoever ends up picking up the various pieces of the Imperium will end up moving away from the hyper-specialized planets entirely, the whole setup is way too vulnerable and not terrible efficient either. Like, yeah, you'll still have the planet that goes "We make the parts for cybernetic arms!", but they'll probably be able to feed, man, educate, and to some degree protect themselves too.
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paragon1 posted:I have to imagine that whoever ends up picking up the various pieces of the Imperium will end up moving away from the hyper-specialized planets entirely, the whole setup is way too vulnerable and not terrible efficient either. Agreed. We need to diversify planets, especially now that the war is basically won against the aliens in the galaxy thanks to Golgotha. Outrail posted:At the moment most psykers either die or become sanctioned which means they probably won't have children. Hi, have you met Galahad? 
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Nyaa posted:The universe just got big nuked to pieces. Now is a good time to implement new law and rule for this new age of ONEGOD. Also, we are inquisitor, we are the law. This is exactly the can-do spirit TEAM QUEEN supports. Time has come to rebuild the galaxy in a new and better model. Naturally, we must be at the head, since only we have the will, the vision, the legal authority and the power to create this new galactic order.
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sullat posted:legal authority Legal authority is a nebulous concept at this point. The Adeptus Mechanicus is still organized and we have standing with them, but the Warrant of Trade is a get-out-of-jail-free card against a legal system that has just dissolved, and the big fancy =I= we have to wave around means we've pretty much outgrown it anyway. Relations with other Inquisitors might get complicated, since on the one hand we can operate outside a ten-parsec radius and that's likely to grow our happy (?) family but on the other they might think themselves better custodians of our jump drive than us. paragon1 posted:I have to imagine that whoever ends up picking up the various pieces of the Imperium will end up moving away from the hyper-specialized planets entirely, the whole setup is way too vulnerable and not terrible efficient either. Hyperspecialization was a form of Imperial control as well; anything smaller than a stellar cluster wouldn't be able to put up a meaningful resistance against the 'will of the Emperor' because they didn't have the minimum inputs necessary to even try, and any group from that size up would be easy enough to observe if they were at all organized. At least we'll be starting with worlds already used to being vaguely self-sufficient, since that'll be what's left? v  vThis is probably going to be hard news to break to folks like the AM, who remake worlds in their own image as a matter of course. dont be mean to me fucked around with this message at 06:36 on May 25, 2016 |
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So I've burned through the entire thread in the last few weeks, and I have to say, well loving done. It's been a supremely entertaining read thus far.
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rizzen posted:So I've burned through the entire thread in the last few weeks, and I have to say, well loving done. It's been a supremely entertaining read thus far.  Welcome!
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-scrollscrollscroll- Hey remember that time we let Athena do brain surgery on us? I doooooo quote:“Okay. Say when you are ready.” p397
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LowellDND posted:-scrollscrollscroll- I was jonesing for an update. 
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Tada! Progress report update: Draft 0 is up to page 471/613 of the thread. Draft 1 is up to page 124/??? of the google doc. Scrivener is up to page 471/613 of the thread.
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Man I can't even remember what situation that was fixing up. What would have ever happened if we'd gotten that spine with memories from all the previous lord-sires installed?
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Chaos tumors after Agatha's World. Limosa helped. I probably would have done some more detailing on Anna and the Darkness
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Tomn posted:You are the children of a dead galaxy, TerraOhone, and this death we do not comprehend. We shall take you in, but may we ask this question--will we too catch the galaxydeath disease? Can we change to be Team Quote Alpha Centauri at all possible opportunities ? edit: I loved my chosen. How then to face the day when he left me? So I took from his body a single cell, perhaps to love him again. Lord Sire Ohone, "Time of Bereavement" extra-edit: Learn to overcome the crass demands of flesh and bone, for they warp the matrix through which we perceive the world. Extend your awareness outward, beyond the self of body, to embrace the self of group and the self of humanity. The goals of the group and the greater race are transcendent, and to embrace them is to achieve enlightenment. Chairman Sheng-ji Yang, "Essays on Mind and Matter Southpaugh fucked around with this message at 22:03 on May 25, 2016 |
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LowellDND posted:Tada! Progress report update: Draft 1 is up to page 112/??? of the google docs. southpaugh posted:Can we change to be Team Quote Alpha Centauri at all possible opportunities ? omg this is lovely.
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So much intriguing discussion in my absence. Also ^^^ I agree with c_h,. And while I sit squarely on Team Loki, I would like to point out that when I suggested Team Transhumanism it was not about leaving humanity behind, it was about making humanity better, about taking the knowledge we have and applying it to everyone. It was about transcendence as the best and most perfect form of human expression as could be possible. I would also like to note that Team Loki is also very pro-enhancement, so don't expect baselines to be a thing any more.
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mepstein73 posted:Hi, have you met Galahad? Most psykers don't have children. Galahad is an exception proving my hypothesis. Start a breeding program selecting for psyker potential
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Outrail posted:Most psykers don't have children. Galahad is an exception proving my hypothesis. 1) How do you keep the Ruinous Powers out of their heads, and 2) Do we really trust ourselves with eugenics after last time?
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AAAnnnnd I made it. Phew. That was some read. I'll just echo the others and say what an amazing job you did - of course Trilogy 1 would be over before I got here, but I expected something like that. Now to go start Paradise Lost.....
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Not Alex posted:Everyone keeps posting Elesh Norn for Transhumanists and then acts like I'm crazy when I say Transhumanists would be a better fit in the Pact than the lovey dovey Alliance. Sort of agree, but don't agree. Loki is too untrustworthy and will probably destroy humanity which we need to elevate. Although the suppression of chaos is important. I'd like to file a motion to boot the lovey-dovey teams from the alliance, too much focus on individual people to the neglect of humanity as a whole. Olothreutes fucked around with this message at 07:41 on May 26, 2016 |
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Grey Hunter posted:AAAnnnnd I made it. Welcome! Next time you do a world war board game, let me know Everyone, check out Grey Hunter's new CYOA! https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3777195&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=1
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Slice of Life: Sebekh the Execrator. Location: The Eye of Ruin, Athenian Technocracy Space. +++General combat doctrine modification A94-3826-B+++ To all Magi of command level Throne-6 and higher Invasion and subjugation protocols now permit orbital facilities and satellites of 10 tons or greater to be used as bombardment munitions (via deorbiting protocols) against hardened targets or where shock and awe tactics are likely to be successful. Such facilities would be scrapped regardless upon the arrival of Constructor class vessels. Battlefield conversion protocol using derivative methodologies from the Linnaeus Incident also authorised against enemy combatants. Additional: Dominion-1 Authorisation Required: ████████ █████ ███████ █████ ██ █████████ ███ ███████ ██ Hexenritter fucked around with this message at 00:14 on May 27, 2016 |
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LowellDND posted:Welcome! Cthulhu?! Oh hell yes.
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Slice of Life: Magos Kastigos, Collegia Cybernetica Aethenia. Location: Belgrade III, Chapter-Empire of the Imperial Fist Belgrade III had been rendered incommunicado when the Astronomicon fell, and the disruptor bombardments from Kastigos' ship had rendered them utterly blind. It was an unfortunate thing they had been so reliant on the Imperial Fists - they had no defense fleet of their own, and nearby PDFs had been reduced to irrelevancy, merely resources yet to be gathered. An effective response or investigative presence would not arrive for years. Even worse than the loss of communication, the loss of FTL had crippled the galaxy. It was now ripe for those with the skill or know how to pick and choose their targets without fear of reprisal. One would have expected pirates, Dark Eldar, even Chaos Raiders, but this was something new, and altogether horrible. Marching with one mind, one intention, grisly skeletal horrors wrapped in decaying muscle and sinew advanced. The dull sheen of the bones were contrasted by the hideous screams of dead lungs, the whining of alien servomotors, the thrum of powered vibroblades. Most awful of all, they wore the badly stitched faces of dead friends, and spoke with their voices. They had first reduced the planetary governor's palace to a charnel house, and then spread from there with a speed that belied their dead flesh. Striking population centres with terrifying efficiency, they had overrun the Planetary Defence Force in just under sixty-one hours. Even now, cities burned behind them. Even now a mind that could only in passing be considered human stirred above them. Hanging like a metallic arachnid amidst data streams, three-dimensional overlays and building-sized vidscreens, Kastigos the Skinweaver watched, his dozens of limblets and dendrites processing thousands of operations per minute each, his processing capacity enhanced to 6.3 megabrains by recent innovations unveiled by the Technocracy. +++Harvest Efficiency 87% - Repurposing at 107% of Linnaeus Protocol Norms+++ +++Combat Efficiency 98% - Losses Negligible+++ +++Node Intercommunication Efficiency 100%+++ +++All Datastreams Routed to Secure Commnode Bravo-20+++ Further testing and experimentation upon the Linnaeus Protocols had yielded numerous fruit, all of which were terrible to behold. Kastigos viewed the latest results from his ship, The Platonic Ideal, and the footage was just as grisly as those original vidcaptures he had seen when he was brought onto the project by Technarch Prime Sebekh. Kastigos had entered the project with great zeal, eager to reward the faith that had been placed in him, and he had engineered the combat servitors for greater psychological impact. His most notable additions including adding fragments of the decedent's personality and behaviour into the combat servitor's behavioral patterns, as well as utilising the decedent's own voice, playing back an endless loop of death cries, pleas for mercy and supplications to an uncaring, unhearing god. As the experiment had progressed, however, he had begun to have his doubts. Not as a god hearing their pleas, but the manufactor of their torments. Am I being tested to see how far I will go? Is Lord Sebekh testing whether or not I am willing to create technologies and innovations that would once have been called heretek and grounds for destruction? Is he watching, even now, through servitors eyes otherwise slaved to my own control? Digital eyes beheld one among a hundred different screens, all of which showed much the same thing. Lasgun fire glancing harmlessly off hardened, ceramic-infused bone; the flash of blades vibrating so fast as to be almost invisible cleaving through meat, bone and metal with equal ease; the piteous flailings of impaled guardsmen as servitors opened them and implanted the controller algorithms. Their will was not their own, muscles spasming to an electronic voice, and they would soon die even as their bodies continued. Gone were the days of the giant conversion engines, though they yet had a place within the grand design. However, these deadly machines spread far faster than did Sebekh’s first forays into this particularly gruesome line of research. Will I risk the same fate as the unworthy when he returned triumphant to Thurisaz and be lain low by the Perfecti? Should we even really be toying with these principles? The Iron Men almost destroyed us once and this is about as close as an Iron Man as has ever been made. I cannot argue about their efficacy though, especially when tasked to specifically military targets. Surely that, at least, will spare me his ire. Talk of things like heresy had been swept away with the new order but Kastigos could not help but wonder were they really crossing a line? Where did the line between meat and machine end? Where did the combat servitor stop and the Iron Man begin?
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Slice of Life: Sebekh the Execrator. Location: The Eye of Ruin, Athenian Technocracy Space. Again he found himself on the opposite end of an argument of doctrine, holding out for the expansion and acquisition he felt the burgeoning Technocracy needed to grow and solidify its position. Yet again he found himself in an endless circular debate with her, and while her patience was infinite, his had not had quite so long to develop. “I am not disputing the fact that we may be stretching our resources a little thin at the moment, but that is the point of acquisition runs. That is exactly why I have fleets tasked to subjugate systems and worlds rich in those resources we need.” Sebekh said, attempting to mask the exasperation he was feeling, sure that it was somehow coming through in binary. “Only a fool fights a war on two fronts... “ she let her voice trail off as she saw his expression. Had Sebekh a jaw to clench, it would have. “So now I’m a fool?” “That’s not what I meant and you know it.” Her voice was reassuring; he was almost sure he could hear the calming subsonic undertones. “So now I don’t understand what you’re saying?” He whirled to face her, hair-like dendrites flaring outward as a dozen different lenses studding his liquid-metal visage glowed a bright crimson. “Now you’re just being difficult.” She said with a laugh, waving it off and casually brushing a little dust off the ledge below the viewport overlooking the enormous black hole around which The Empiricist orbited. His voice firmed, though the anger seemed to simmer down and cool somewhat. “You haven’t seen difficult. I am trying to ensure we have everything we need.” “You’re moving too fast for your own good, Sebekh. Too fast for our own good. You risk discovery before we’re prepared.” She frowned softly as she turned to meet his gaze once more, walking closer and placing her hand on his arm. “Just trust me, I’ve been doing this for a little longer than you have.” The touch seemed to soothe what was left of his anger, and he suspected she was manipulating his emotions both through word and touch now - something he had suspected in the past - but he remained resolute on his position. The momentary suspicion was fading away, as well. He could see her through myriad spectra, great auras of power washing off her in some spectra, in others absolutely nothing. He continued. “The ambush predator strikes and vanishes, having taken its prey with both efficiency and speed. Like a trap door spider.” “We are the tectonic plates on which ambush predators and insects die, Sebekh. Slow your roll a little.” Her tone wasn’t so much conciliatory now as chiding. “The tectonic plates of this galaxy have never been more mutable and shifting as they have right now. We would be fools NOT to take advantage and seize reasonable ground. If we wait overlong, we risk entrenched enemies who have dug themselves in and fortified so as to make any attack short of Exterminatus-grade weaponry a non-viable, overly costly approach.” She sighed nodded. “Fine. We’ll agree to compromise on the acquisition and conversion of resources, just remember not to let your reach exceed your grasp.” Her face shadowed. ‘’There have been times when i have drawn too much notice, exceeded my resources. I wouldn’t recommend it.’’ Hexenritter fucked around with this message at 10:00 on May 26, 2016 |
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Note to self: make an example of at the very least Kastigos. Probably Sebekh too, given how willing he is to squander inhabitable worlds.
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Despite his misgivings Kastigos is definitely quite comfortable exploring terror weapons. Whether it's from a combination of fear and sycophantic behaviour or a deeper, darker side of his personality finally showing through is up in the air. Most likely the latter. Especially seeing as he's using the Linnaeus Protocol on noncombatants. Sebekh on the other hand rationalises his actions by simple dint of the fact that humanity is a renewable resource presently all too prone to Chaos. Also because in the long term, biomes will recover; and short term, the genpop is adaptable through technology to weather any relatively temporary ill effects his actions visit upon the enemy's worlds. It's a long, dirty game and every side has played outside the rules more than once. Imperium examples include AdMech radiation weapons and Skitaari, various Exterminatus weapons (phosphex, cyclonic torpedoes, virus bombs, et al) and the Kryptmann Protocol. Not justifying here, mind you. Things will get much worse before they get better. Hexenritter fucked around with this message at 00:21 on May 27, 2016 |
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