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Assuming you aren't trolling, the reality is that a masters degree and professional certificate without any experience puts you in the "paper qualifications" zone and you are probably worse off than if you did not have these have things. Recruiters know you will expect more pay, and hiring managers know you will likely not be as productive as someone with real experience.
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# ¿ Aug 15, 2014 21:18 |
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# ¿ Mar 28, 2024 10:22 |
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GILF Hunter posted:Now, it's entirely possible that this stream of posts has taught me that my degree is less valuable than I see it. I won't deny that; but I see it as a settle to work in a place that I don't particular want to live (or commute to) and be paid less than my colleagues. Is that not fair?
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# ¿ Aug 16, 2014 03:41 |
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GILF: Everyone here is saying the same thing, take the stupid job. It's entry level and probably won't challenge you, but it will put experience to your credentials and make you more marketable in a year or two. Also, if my kid turned down a paying job to live with me, after I presumably put them through or at least helped them with graduate school, I would throw them out on their rear end and they would be working at mcdonalds, regretting the day they turned down a real, honest to god career.
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# ¿ Aug 16, 2014 04:18 |
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GILF Hunter posted:My parents would want me to be happy. Would you not want that for you kids?
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# ¿ Aug 16, 2014 04:58 |
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I would recommend you reread this entire thread, but pretend that you are not the OP and you are just reading something that someone else wrote (and replied to).
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# ¿ Aug 16, 2014 07:15 |
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GILF Hunter posted:Would you want to live in a place with the characteristics I just described? Let me tell you a bit about myself. When I was just starting my career, I worked a thankless version of it (helpdesk) on third shift in a town 40 minutes away from home. I drove to and from this job five days a week. After a while I was promoted, to a still thankless job (level 2 helpdesk) but no longer on third shift. I hated both of these jobs, but liked the people I worked with. I was also poorly compensated for my time, though not out of line with the job. After these two stints, I was again promoted to Network Administrator. Since I was a consultant, I was given a new assignment and was the only IT guy at a ~100 person company. This company was a 50 minute commute away from home, but the job was something I wanted because it was great experience. The reality was that most of the people I worked with were terrible people and I hated the assignment, but I knew if I stuck with it the next hop on the ladder would come soon enough. Sure enough it did, and I was moved to another assignment (still network administrator) at a great company with great coworkers. Since then there have been more career moves, but they are not relevant to my point. Most people pay their dues with lovely jobs in the beginning, and only get a great job that they like once they reach mid career. As much as you probably feel that getting a masters degree entitles you skip that part of your career, it sounds like the entry level job in the field requires that level of education and therefore you have to start at the bottom like everyone else. GILF Hunter posted:Only then might you learn how to spell.
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# ¿ Aug 16, 2014 07:34 |
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Rudager posted:To repeat it again, why would anyone hire you as an assistant or associate planner over someone with experience as a technician?
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# ¿ Aug 16, 2014 08:02 |
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# ¿ Mar 28, 2024 10:22 |
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GILF Hunter posted:Considering people that graduate from my university with my degree obtain Assistant positions with roughly the same experience -- I've said this a few times too -- I would say it's very likely.
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# ¿ Aug 16, 2014 08:16 |