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Harald
Jul 9, 2009

LINKIN PARK

Yeah it was probably edgy in its day, but it doesn't hold a candle to George RR Martin. First of all, the whole plot gets spoiled for you in the first act. There's no incest or tits or dragons, and you don't even see Lady Macbeth kill herself. It's so bad most actors won't even mention it by name.

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Chris Awful
Oct 2, 2005

Tell your friends they don't have to be scared or hungry anymore comrades.


Macwho?

Parallax Scroll
Nov 13, 2009

spiderman

king lear is better

Helical Nightmares
Apr 30, 2009


Copley Depot posted:

Yeah it was probably edgy in its day, but it doesn't hold a candle to George RR Martin.

Shakespeare finished Macbeth.

Absalom Baird
Jul 13, 2010


But in fact their IS incest, OP; by the standards of the time, the cucking of the old king by his brother was considered INCESTOUS

baw
Nov 5, 2008
RESIDENT: LAISSEZ FAIR-SNEZHNEVSKY INSTITUTE FOR FORENSIC PSYCHIATRY

roman polanski's version is pretty good. the sword fight at the end owns and i dont htink it is overrated at all

Frostwerks
Sep 24, 2007


isnt he the groundskeepr on the sampsons

boethius
Jul 10, 2001

Space bunnies have three ears

Banquo 4 lyfe

Das Boo
Jun 9, 2011

GOIN' MOG WILD HERE, KUPO!


I liked Macbeth, but hated Hamlet. What a whiny doucher.

DoctorStrangelove
Jun 6, 2012

Mein Fuhrer, I can WALK!



I personally liked Othello more as it gives us a new and exciting take on the tradition interracial cuckolding scenario.

ALL-PRO SEXMAN
Nov 8, 2006

Veni, vidi, Lombardi.


Helical Nightmares posted:

Shakespeare finished Macbeth.

Kelfeftaf
Sep 9, 2011


baw posted:

roman polanski's version is pretty good. the sword fight at the end owns and i dont htink it is overrated at all

The Polanski version is great.

Also: Kozintsev's Hamlet and King Lear are the best film adaptations of Shakespeare.

Kelfeftaf
Sep 9, 2011


And if you want to watch other adaptations of Macbeth, skip Orson Welles's one. He did a good job with Othello and Henry IV, but his Macbeth stinks. Ian McKellen was in a good version in the 70s (which is probably impossible to find), and Patrick Stewart was in a decent version recently (though it was all modernized and stupid -- I guess Macbeth is supposed to be a modern dictator or something in it?).

mazzi Chart Czar
Sep 24, 2005

Holy
Fuck


Op needs his tongue ripped out, and his hands chopped off.

baw
Nov 5, 2008
RESIDENT: LAISSEZ FAIR-SNEZHNEVSKY INSTITUTE FOR FORENSIC PSYCHIATRY

as long as we can all agree that keanu reeves is the greatest living shakespearian actor

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

and she told me, "Listen honey. There's hundreds of strong men out there. I like men who are kind, who are honest, men who can be open with me."

It's cool in a sense that the Manson cult brutally murdered Roman Polanski's wife so that modern cinema could finally get one sick-rear end take on Macbeth.

Tuxedo Catfish
Mar 17, 2007

You've got guts! Come to my village, I'll buy you lunch.


Parallax Scroll posted:

king lear is better

yeah but that's hardly a fair comparison

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006



Helical Nightmares posted:

Shakespeare finished Macbeth.

Awesome Welles
Nov 1, 2010

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hamlet is better

Kelfeftaf
Sep 9, 2011


othello's the weakest of the big four

baw
Nov 5, 2008
RESIDENT: LAISSEZ FAIR-SNEZHNEVSKY INSTITUTE FOR FORENSIC PSYCHIATRY

rosencrantz and guildenstern are dead is better than hamlet

Kelfeftaf
Sep 9, 2011


baw posted:

rosencrantz and guildenstern are dead is better than hamlet

no loving way. though i did like the hamlet in the film adaptation.

now that he killed himself, robin williams was a brilliant osric in retrospect

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY DOG BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH

OUT, OUT, DAMNED OP

hemophilia
Dec 28, 2006

My Blood Doesn't Clot


i loving hate reading shakespeare and i will never enjoy his plays or adaptations of them.

baw
Nov 5, 2008
RESIDENT: LAISSEZ FAIR-SNEZHNEVSKY INSTITUTE FOR FORENSIC PSYCHIATRY

i thnik reading shakespeare is dumb, in general

Kelfeftaf
Sep 9, 2011


watching it being performed is better, but they always edit out stuff. and when they don't, you get monstrosities like branagh's hamlet

baw
Nov 5, 2008
RESIDENT: LAISSEZ FAIR-SNEZHNEVSKY INSTITUTE FOR FORENSIC PSYCHIATRY

what is the worst film adaptation of a shakespeare play

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

and she told me, "Listen honey. There's hundreds of strong men out there. I like men who are kind, who are honest, men who can be open with me."

baw posted:

what is the worst film adaptation of a shakespeare play

Lurhman's Romeo + Juliet has not aged well at all.

Kelfeftaf
Sep 9, 2011


the worst i've seen is the ethan hawke hamlet (bill murray as polonius!)

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006



Yeah, Ethan Hawke Hamlet is pretty loving bad.

The "To be or not to be" soliloquy is given in a Blockbuster video in the "Action" aisles (GET IT!?)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMxAvnTaw7A

I once had a teacher who thought that because of the contemporary setting my class would relate to it better and "get" what Shakespeare was going for. I think my class was really dumb for her to have thought that. Like special ed dumb.

Kelfeftaf
Sep 9, 2011


exquisite tea posted:

Lurhman's Romeo + Juliet has not aged well at all.

oh, yeah. this one really sucks too.

baw
Nov 5, 2008
RESIDENT: LAISSEZ FAIR-SNEZHNEVSKY INSTITUTE FOR FORENSIC PSYCHIATRY

i have good memories of it, i remember mercutio's death scene being great. i was in my teens when i saw it tho

Kelfeftaf
Sep 9, 2011


but at least romeo + juliet had a lot of stupid poo poo going on all the time. ethan hawke hamlet is really boring all the way through.

baw
Nov 5, 2008
RESIDENT: LAISSEZ FAIR-SNEZHNEVSKY INSTITUTE FOR FORENSIC PSYCHIATRY

now that i think about it literally the only part i remember is the mercutio death scene

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006



Exactly. Romeo + Juliet is retarded, but it has retard energy and strength in most if not all of its scenes. Ethan Hawke Hamlet is that weird early 00s pre 9/11 rich NYC ennui personified in a very bad way. When Bill Murray can't salvage your picture, it's loving terrible.

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

and she told me, "Listen honey. There's hundreds of strong men out there. I like men who are kind, who are honest, men who can be open with me."

baw posted:

i have good memories of it, i remember mercutio's death scene being great. i was in my teens when i saw it tho

There's an annoying cut every second and half the cast just shouts their lines like they don't understand what the gently caress they're saying. I actually don't hate the Ethan Hawke Hamlet, though. I know I probably should, but it's at least watchable in a tidy 90 minutes and does some interesting things.

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

and she told me, "Listen honey. There's hundreds of strong men out there. I like men who are kind, who are honest, men who can be open with me."

If you want to see one kickass Shakespeare adaptation from the whole regrettable "MTV movies" period of the late 90s, watch Anthony Hopkins' Titus Andronicus.

baw
Nov 5, 2008
RESIDENT: LAISSEZ FAIR-SNEZHNEVSKY INSTITUTE FOR FORENSIC PSYCHIATRY

i watched it for a class after reading the play. the play was weird as poo poo and didnt even seem like something shakespeare would write and the movie well lol

Kelfeftaf
Sep 9, 2011


exquisite tea posted:

If you want to see one kickass Shakespeare adaptation from the whole regrettable "MTV movies" period of the late 90s, watch Anthony Hopkins' Titus Andronicus.

this is indeed good. julie taymour did an adaptation of the tempest a few years ago. i haven't seen it, but it wasn't well received

it's sad that no one wants to adapt henry iv because it's split into two plays. it's probably his fourth best play, behind hamlet, macbeth, and king lear.

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Wizchine
Sep 17, 2007


Bitches leave. The best Macbeth is Kurosawa's Throne of Blood.

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