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warderenator
Nov 16, 2013

by FactsAreUseless
element zero from mass effect

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logical phalluses
Mar 18, 2009

The living look upon the corpse with their eyesight,
But without eyesight lingers a different living and looks
curiously on the corpse.
aids

Lucky Guy
Jan 24, 2013

TY for no bm


drink that poo poo, son

redshirt
Aug 11, 2007

Reporting for shovel mission Sir.
What if we're gravitationally attracted to something in another dimension?

BluPotato
Jul 18, 2006

gravi-oli-o's

Iprazochrome
Nov 3, 2008

redshirt posted:

What if we're gravitationally attracted to something in another dimension?

heterogravitation is disgusting, only homogravitons allowed in this universe

Fart.Bleed.Repeat.
Sep 29, 2001

gravity sucks, but is very attractive

rootphreak
May 16, 2008

HO HO HO
SPREAD EM FOR SANTA
drink the cum shot

redshirt
Aug 11, 2007

Reporting for shovel mission Sir.
Realtalk: I love gravity. It's the coolest thing.

Fact: It's the "weakest" of the 4 main forces. For example, a little magnet can defeat all the gravity of earth.

Fact: No one really knows what it is. There are three concurrent and "correct" theories of gravity currently in use: Newtonian, Einstein's Relativity, and Quantum. Quantum and Relativity are totally different, and yet each is accurate at a certain scale.

Fact: Gravity is the organizing principle of our Universe - consider gravity in a Relativistic sense, which is a geometry in space time. More mass warps space time to a larger degree and thus greater gravity. And so consider the Milky Way and Andromeda orbiting each other, and both orbiting a larger collection of galaxies which in turn is orbiting an even larger collection, and so on. Consider all these gravitational relationships to be ever deeper holes, in space. Consider it!

Kombotron
Aug 11, 2011
gods love

Kombotron
Aug 11, 2011

redshirt posted:

Realtalk: I love gravity. It's the coolest thing.

Fact: It's the "weakest" of the 4 main forces. For example, a little magnet can defeat all the gravity of earth.

Fact: No one really knows what it is. There are three concurrent and "correct" theories of gravity currently in use: Newtonian, Einstein's Relativity, and Quantum. Quantum and Relativity are totally different, and yet each is accurate at a certain scale.

Fact: Gravity is the organizing principle of our Universe - consider gravity in a Relativistic sense, which is a geometry in space time. More mass warps space time to a larger degree and thus greater gravity. And so consider the Milky Way and Andromeda orbiting each other, and both orbiting a larger collection of galaxies which in turn is orbiting an even larger collection, and so on. Consider all these gravitational relationships to be ever deeper holes, in space. Consider it!

gods love holes

redshirt
Aug 11, 2007

Reporting for shovel mission Sir.

Kombotron posted:

gods love holes

Amen.

We're all Fallin'.

Robo Reagan
Feb 12, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Theshby posted:

maths is better than physics qtiyd

math is great until you need to do something outside of a piece of paper

rocket_man38
Jan 23, 2006

My life is a barrel o' fun!!
The tension between dimensions.

Cnut the Great
Mar 30, 2014

redshirt posted:

Fact: No one really knows what it is. There are three concurrent and "correct" theories of gravity currently in use: Newtonian, Einstein's Relativity, and Quantum. Quantum and Relativity are totally different, and yet each is accurate at a certain scale.

newtonian gravity isn't really in the same category as einstein's gravity and quantum gravity. for the latter two, we know they can't be entirely correct because they don't agree with each other, but we use them because they're all we have and they work for problems on the proper scale. we know newtonian isn't really correct at all, and we don't even technically need it anymore, but we use it because it's close enough in most cases and it's more convenient mathematically.

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




If a new planet suddenly popped into our solar system would we see the light reflected off it before, at the moment of, or after feeling the effects of its gravity?

i.e. does the effect of gravity travel (and therefore abide by rules like speed of light being max)?

the fart question
Mar 21, 2007

College Slice

Real hurthling! posted:

If a new planet suddenly popped into our solar system would we see the light reflected off it before, at the moment of, or after feeling the effects of its gravity?

i.e. does the effect of gravity travel (and therefore abide by rules like speed of light being max)?

Yes

SHISHKABOB
Nov 30, 2012

Fun Shoe

Benedick Cuckold posted:

newtonian gravity isn't really in the same category as einstein's gravity and quantum gravity. for the latter two, we know they can't be entirely correct because they don't agree with each other, but we use them because they're all we have and they work for problems on the proper scale. we know newtonian isn't really correct at all, and we don't even technically need it anymore, but we use it because it's close enough in most cases and it's more convenient mathematically.

Newtonian dynamics correctly predicts the behavior of matter at certain scales therefore it is correct.

Lord Frankenstyle
Dec 3, 2005

Mmmm,
You smell like Lysol Wipes.

Real hurthling! posted:

If a new planet suddenly popped into our solar system would we see the light reflected off it before, at the moment of, or after feeling the effects of its gravity?

Same time. So far everything indicates that gravity "travels" at the speed of light.

redshirt
Aug 11, 2007

Reporting for shovel mission Sir.

Benedick Cuckold posted:

newtonian gravity isn't really in the same category as einstein's gravity and quantum gravity. for the latter two, we know they can't be entirely correct because they don't agree with each other, but we use them because they're all we have and they work for problems on the proper scale. we know newtonian isn't really correct at all, and we don't even technically need it anymore, but we use it because it's close enough in most cases and it's more convenient mathematically.

Like Shishkabob says, it's totally correct at certain scales. I believe the Apollo missions were calculated using Newtonian Dynamics. It also posits gravity as an attractive force - nothing said about the means of this attraction. Relativity states that gravity really isn't a force at all, just space time geometry. QD posits the graviton and it's supposed to behave like the other imaginary particles which make up the Quantum world.

lol but
Feb 24, 2007

body is a dinosaur
Slippery Tilde

Robo Reagan posted:

math is great until you need to do something outside of a piece of paper

that may be your opinion, but i'm afraid to say that, officially, you've quoted this, so you're down. sorry brah

naem
May 29, 2011

Higg's boson

Robo Reagan
Feb 12, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Theshby posted:

that may be your opinion, but i'm afraid to say that, officially, you've quoted this, so you're down. sorry brah

harsh, but fair

Robo Reagan
Feb 12, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

naem posted:

Higg's boson

Higg's bosom

SHISHKABOB
Nov 30, 2012

Fun Shoe
One of the fundamental concepts behind the construction of quantum theory is that it should turn into precisely classical mechanics as you consider very large numbers of particles or whatever.

No system is wrong as long as it predicts the behavior and phenomena with relatively good uncertainty on a given scale.

This is why there was a conflict between the competing ideas of Modified Newtonian Dynamics (MOND) and dark matter. MOND works, or rather they are modifying things to make it work. But dark matter works better.

TacticalUrbanHomo
Aug 17, 2011

by Lowtax

redshirt posted:

Fact: Gravity is the organizing principle of our Universe - consider gravity in a Relativistic sense, which is a geometry in space time. More mass warps space time to a larger degree and thus greater gravity. And so consider the Milky Way and Andromeda orbiting each other, and both orbiting a larger collection of galaxies which in turn is orbiting an even larger collection, and so on. Consider all these gravitational relationships to be ever deeper holes, in space. Consider it!

this is just saying that gravity exists with more words you rear end in a top hat it isn't explaining anything unless I already didn't know that bigger things have more gravity, in which case you could just say that

JawKnee
Mar 24, 2007





You'll take the ride to leave this town along that yellow line
concentrated stupid

you're changing the world OP!

Amarcarts
Feb 21, 2007

This looks a lot like suffering.

Mixodorian posted:

allrecipes.com/recipe/moms-country-gravy/

?

Mom's Cuntry Gravity

redshirt
Aug 11, 2007

Reporting for shovel mission Sir.

TacticalUrbanHomo posted:

this is just saying that gravity exists with more words you rear end in a top hat it isn't explaining anything unless I already didn't know that bigger things have more gravity, in which case you could just say that

Well, friend, consider it from a spatial, geometry perspective. We sit in Earth's gravity well, which sits in the Sun's, which sits in the central black hole's, which sits in the shared orbit of Andromeda, etc.

We're on top of a large hill, but the abyss goes down forever...

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
graviolies

HATECUBE
Mar 2, 2007

the gay nuclear force

Zzulu
May 15, 2009

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when the aliens come and use their gravity cannons and gravity bombs and gravity bullets on us we better have figured out how to deal with gravity

just saying

redshirt
Aug 11, 2007

Reporting for shovel mission Sir.
Gravity waves are maybe a thing. Actual ripples in space time, man.

ziasquinn
Jan 1, 2006

Fallen Rib
I think it's pretty important to figure it out.

I thought mercurys orbit didn't fit Newtonian gravity and wasn't really explainable until relativity. Due to it being so deep in the suns gravity well

Also it's really strange to try and imagine our solar system (with its own gravity well) being nested inside bigger and bigger gravity wells

ziasquinn
Jan 1, 2006

Fallen Rib
loving pumped for new horizons

SHISHKABOB
Nov 30, 2012

Fun Shoe

redshirt posted:

Well, friend, consider it from a spatial, geometry perspective. We sit in Earth's gravity well, which sits in the Sun's, which sits in the central black hole's, which sits in the shared orbit of Andromeda, etc.

We're on top of a large hill, but the abyss goes down forever...

the gravitational influence of the super massive black hole on the rest of the galaxy is practically zero

ilikedirt
Oct 15, 2004

king of posting
physics is for little bitch baby fuckboys

all the real studs are in bio *slaps boner and it makes a spring sound*

the fart question
Mar 21, 2007

College Slice
wait i know

MONKEY CHEESE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

naem
May 29, 2011

redshirt posted:

Gravity waves are maybe a thing. Actual ripples in space time, man.

They are, they've actually seen them in the form of distorsion using a telescope, evidence of ripples left over after the big bang.

Also the giant particle collider produced and recorded a higg's boson, the particle or particle-like thing predicted to exist, by a guy named Higg, to be the thing of which gravity is made.

The answer to the thread title is "Higg's Boson" which is the thing of which gravity is made, why are,

Why are we, still,

The thread, is, it, we-

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Zzulu
May 15, 2009

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whats a higgs boson

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