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Tackle Solo: 1.5 Tackle Assist: .75 Sack: 3.5 Interception: 5 Fumble Force: 3.5 Fumble Recovery: 3.5 Defensive Touchdown: 6 Safety: 4 Pass Defended: 3 Block Kick: 5 Tackles for Loss: 2 Is what I'm thinking for a better scoring system, it should in theory make DLs and DBs closer to the mean. I'm also not opposed to using that PFF IDP scoring if everyone would rather. I just got a chance to look at it and I don't hate it. I'd make a few tweaks though: Tackle Solo: 1.5 Tackle Assist: .75 Sack: 4 Interception: 6 Fumble Force: 4 Fumble Recovery: 3 Defensive Touchdown: 6 Safety: 10 Pass Defended: 3 Block Kick: 5 Tackles for Loss: 3 Does anyone have any strong opinions one way or the other. I could just leave it as is if everyone would prefer, but I would like to try to give a bigger bump to the non-LBs
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No strong opinions either way from me. I cared more before I played with the numbers and realized in almost every case both flex spots will be LBs.
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Yeah, that's always going to happen unless we get the teams up to 14+
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IT e: oh actually I don't know if I can make the draft. I have a bbq that afternoon. I apparently mentally replaced the timezone to Pacific. I'll keep the spot if you don't mind the possibility of me autodrafting but I'm willing to give it up for a guy who can actually make it. vvv Yeah, I could probably whip one up pretty quick vvv 3 DONG HORSE fucked around with this message at 04:20 on Aug 26, 2014 |
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If you have time to fill out a draft priority then you won't be the only one autodrafting.Obama Yo Mama posted:Yeah, that's always going to happen unless we get the teams up to 14+ Yeah, assuming everyone uses perfect starters, non LB flex at your proposed scoring would be: 0-13 teams - 0 CB 14 teams - 2 CB 15 teams - 3 CB 16 teams - 7 CB 17 teams - 9 CB 18 teams - 14 CB 19,20 teams - 18 CB, 1 DE
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Are we still drafting on... Sunday I guess? 9pm EDT? Are the teams and settings finalized now? How many of you guys are totally loving pumped to draft a bunch of linebackers because I know I am.
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Ideally we need 1 more team to make it even I think. And for those autodrafting it will be fine. It's not for money and there is going to be a ton of waiver action. For those that haven't played IDP before - preseason forecasts are notoriously horribly inaccurate compared offensive line players. You know how there are some players out of no where every year that people pick up in QB/RB/WR? The same happens in IDP, but even more so because there isn't as much time put into analyzing what teams are going to do defensively in detail as it relates to fantasy.
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Aredna posted:And for those autodrafting it will be fine. Yahoo ranks their IDP players alphabetically. Autodrafters will be lucky to get non-retired people.
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Ahh, that's why it was screwed up. Yeah, I meant you're fine autodrafting if you fix the list ahead of time yourself. If you rely on the preset rankings you are gonna be hosed. I'm still 99% sure I'll be autodrafting some or all of my team since I'll be at work, but I'm waiting until # of teams is finalized to upload the list as my rankings change a bit on 12 vs. 14 teams. Some players move up/down about a full round.
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I locked the league at 12 since I doubt we're going to get two more.
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Awesome, and points going to be locked at top of this page? Side note: If you really want to made CB worth as much as LB you could make pass defenses worth 15(!). At that rate though we're in lottery ticket mode week to week as to who wins head to head matchups
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Aredna posted:Awesome, and points going to be locked at top of this page? One of my other leagues has points per interception return yard which helps too.
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They only do turnover yards total not specific turnovers.Aredna posted:Awesome, and points going to be locked at top of this page? Yeah, I'm going with the one at the top
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Jesus christ Yahoo's predraft rankings tool is terrible. There's no search! Every time you change position you have to click "load more players" a bunch of times! Doing this bullshit by hand is going to take for loving ever.
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You can tell it to load like 500 players in the list.... but yeah it sucks. I'm gonna start now and had planned on lining up about 500 players deep just to do overkill and be safe - but we'll see where my will gives in.
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You're not gonna need more than 250, the total number of people on everyone's roster is 228. edit: I'm gonna punch Yahoo in the dick. I got all of my non-LB guys into a list and sorted, then accidentally hit the back button before I had a chance to save, rendering all that work moot. Yoshifan823 fucked around with this message at 16:41 on Aug 28, 2014 |
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Top 300 loaded and ready to autodraft! Here's to hoping this works out fine.
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Oh god I still haven't done my rankings. I did a mock draft with the yahoo tool and it's horrible. Runs in browser, super laggy, disconnects occasionally, switching between different types of players displayed takes too long. This is gonna be interesting.
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Leperflesh posted:Oh god I still haven't done my rankings. Use the classic tool, it doesn't suck poo poo.
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I figured that the draft rankings were such a piece of poo poo that I'll get better results by skipping all that and doing it live myself. I hope that this turns out to be the case...
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Yoshifan823 posted:Use the classic tool, it doesn't suck poo poo. Oh I didn't know that was a thing. What does $100 waiver limit mean? In my other league on ESPN we don't have that. e. where do I click to use the classic tool Leperflesh fucked around with this message at 01:43 on Sep 1, 2014 |
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Sep 1, 2014 01:40
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Everyone puts in a blind bid for players they want. The person that bid the most money will win the auction when waivers clear. If there is a tie, it's broken by standard waiver priority. $100 is your budget for the entire year. If you spend $80 in week 1 on players then you only have $20 to spend for the rest of the season. Typically most players will go for a few $. Some better than average players for say $5-7 and studs can go for up to $50 if there is high demand. Of course I'm used to how this plays out in normal leagues so here it will be an entirely new beast. For example, in my league last year, after his 45 point week Foles went for $50 because there were 2 teams that needed a starting QB. I would guess if there are any breakout IDP players that look to be studs for the year we may see something similar happen here.
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Oh so there's no waiver wire priority based on standings? Even the team in #1 position can get this week's breakout player if they're willing to bid more (which they are, because being in the lead they'll be less likely to need to save waiver money for future waiver pickups)? We'll see how it plays out but it does not immediately seem like a better solution. At least not for a league that isn't auction drafting to begin with.
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Leperflesh posted:Oh so there's no waiver wire priority based on standings? Even the team in #1 position can get this week's breakout player if they're willing to bid more (which they are, because being in the lead they'll be less likely to need to save waiver money for future waiver pickups)? That's always been my opinion on it. Not that season long waiver priority is any better cause that top team will eventually camp the top waiver spot.
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You're correct that everyone can get any player any week. The counter argument is that the worse teams are willing to bid more because they are more desperate to fill in gaps. However, because it is a blind bid, you don't know if the top player is bidding $50 or $10 for a player. Besides, you can only bid half your budget twice and then you are screwed to pick up any mediocre players. I imagine that with our shallow benches and the relatively linear dropoff in IDP players compared to offensive players it's going to be pretty easy to pick up waiver picks as needed. From my experience as well, often the players being bid on go for the $5-$10 range as well because they are worth taking a shot on and are a potential starter, but not an every week starter so you want to spend some of your budget, but not too much. It will be interesting to see how bidding goes as we all adjust to how other people in the league bid. In my main league I can now often get a good feel for what people will bid on a player and if I really want them win by $1-$2 more than the next highest bidder. Our first year we were paying $5+ more than each other trying to make sure we got who we wanted. The same will probably happen here. Edit: The hilarious part is when someone seriously overvalues a player compared to other people. Last year we had a guy pay $37 for Julio after injury to use him as a keeper this year when the next highest bid was $7. In retrospect he should have spent a bit less to get value at the keeper position and the rest of us should have thought about it and bid quite a bit more than we did. Edit2: I'll also add that when our league changed to this method I fought it quite a bit, but after using it for I guess 4 years now I really like it and the additional strategy it adds to waiver pickups throughout the year. Aredna fucked around with this message at 02:02 on Sep 1, 2014 |
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Oh so it's a blind bid? Yeesh. So if you're doing fine and don't really need a guy presumably you bid lower than the player who desperately needs a guy. But that desperate player is more likely to need to conserve cash for the future. So... But yeah don't mind me, I expect to come last regardless. I don't even recognize the names of like 90 of the top 100 IDP players.
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Double post to keep FAAB chat separate. I've never used Yahoo. Even though I'll have to autodraft a bit I want to try and get my first few picks in. When can we open the draft room? If it's now, where the heck is the button? I'm used to ESPN where you can join the lounge an hour prior.
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Welp, I guess it's time to start researching defensive players, 22 minutes before the draft. This is going to be so stupid. Which is why I say, 
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Leperflesh posted:Oh so it's a blind bid? Yeesh. So if you're doing fine and don't really need a guy presumably you bid lower than the player who desperately needs a guy. But that desperate player is more likely to need to conserve cash for the future. So... Yeah, you put in your bids anytime before the waiver clear time and then you find out at waiver time what happened. It's fine though, I put in my list of 300 for autodraft and even though I've played IDP for 6 years or something now I still don't know most of the players. We have a good scoring system, but it's different than I've used and much deeper than I've used. A lot of this for us this year will be looking at player stats and picking them up based off of that. Not too unlike many people starting out in FF for the first time and drafting players past the first few rounds.
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timp posted:Welp, I guess it's time to start researching defensive players, 22 minutes before the draft. Aredna posted:Here are All Yahoo IDP Players and their projections with our scoring system. Self quote and updated scoring system for a list of all Yahoo players that are in our league. Note I didn't update the projections since a week or so ago so some players will have changed in value since then. But this should give you a simple way to filter players if you need a quick check or sort on something.
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Alas, poor autodrafters 1:20 for the whole draft, good work everyone
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To make the league more fun, and if it's still possible, we should consider changing it to a 10 man league. If not, well, congrats to the 4 guys that get to play those teams twice! I'm OK to leave it as is since it's not for money, but the other 8 of us have a nice 1 game deficit to make up for the playoffs. I've updated my team name for week 1 Leperfish - I'm coming for you!
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Aredna posted:To make the league more fun, and if it's still possible, we should consider changing it to a 10 man league. Haha nice! It seems I drafted like five guys who are currently out with injuries... although yahoo's "currently" seems to be roughly week three of the preseason so who the gently caress knows. If all of the supposedly "out" guys are actually out, I may have to do a waiver wire pick on week 1. I assume we can also put just about zero credence into Yahoo's predicted stats for week 1 as well.
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Yeah, I've got some players listed as Out, but when I read the notes it says they are expected to play week 1.
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The report cards are great. It's time to talk trash for the week 1 matchups: Leperflesh, How does it feel to be projected to only finish the season ahead of the 2 autodraft teams? quote:With an average of 6.8 years of NFL experience, Immovable Objects is the team most likely to have a player become a grandpa. Speaking of autodraft teams quote:I Keep Getting Older I feel bad for whichever team they projected Dodgeboy19 to beat it was probably me
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I'll edit in usernames as people claim their teams. This is the preseason projections. Looks like a few people are projected to have some easy (2nd in ranking, 5th in points?!?) or hard (6th in points, but 10th in ranking!) schedules this year. Best of luck to everyone! code:Aredna fucked around with this message at 04:41 on Sep 2, 2014 |
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I'm Smash Mouth Football. Here's hoping the autodrafters still show up - I think they can field decent teams from waiver wire pickups.
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Dee here. I'll get around to changing the team name now that I've got a roster. I feel like that draft went terribly because I have no grasp of the scoring and was struggling to figure out relative value of each position. That's on top of not knowing any of these players, because I only just started digging real deep into football last season. Fingers crossed that I picked up all starters (and healthy), so we'll see if they can scrape together some points for a few wins. It's good that none of this matters and I should be able to have a lot of fun even if I have a terrible showing.
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Looking at it, one person could field a low end team (1700ish total points) off of waiver and the other would be around 1400 if they fixed it all next. With good management the 1700 point team could make playoffs I think.
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