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What is your favorite Tales of game?
	Why did you include a poll? This is dumb.
	Tales of Xillia
	Tales of Vesperia
	Tales of Graces
	Tales of Symphonia
	Tales of the Abyss
	One of the other ones.

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Endorph: Jul 22, 2009

Well, Xillia's sidequest structure made it pretty hard to miss stuff. Like yeah, stuff was time-locked, but so long as you made any effort towards getting everything, you'd, well, get everything. Dungeons were simple and all the sidequests were from random NPCs in town, as opposed to having arcane requirements just to get on the sidequest.

# ¿ Aug 19, 2014 05:14

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# ¿ Apr 29, 2024 14:11

Endorph: Jul 22, 2009

ThePhenomenalBaby posted:

Tales is basically me trying to figure out how hecka sick of a combo I can make at any given time. I'm currently in the middle of Xillia 1 and enjoying it, even if I'm basically ignoring the plot. Are the new character cool for hecka sick comboing?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SPxbK4Twnc

Yes

# ¿ Aug 20, 2014 00:35

Endorph: Jul 22, 2009

Do you think the CE DLC stuff will ever be put up on PSN? I didn't preorder, but I really want that Asbel Milla costume.

# ¿ Aug 20, 2014 01:48

Endorph: Jul 22, 2009

Mokinokaro posted:

Someone asked Namco on twitter. The answer is no.

gently caress, I should have paid 100 dollars for a fake pocket watch just so I could have that costume.

# ¿ Aug 20, 2014 04:32

Endorph: Jul 22, 2009

Shakugan posted:

I was pretty underwhelmed by Xillia 1. Is Xillia 2 a better game?

Combat is improved and it expands on a lot of things from Xillia 1 plot-wise but it depends on your feelings for Xillia.

If you liked it but thought it could have been more, I'd say get it.

If you were indifferent towards or hated Xillia 1, then it's not gonna change your mind.

# ¿ Aug 20, 2014 06:15

Endorph: Jul 22, 2009

Yeah, it's not completely nonviable or anything. Ludger gets most of the neat toys but all the others work fine too, and it's easy to switch who you're controlling mid-combat.

# ¿ Aug 21, 2014 18:30

Endorph: Jul 22, 2009

gannyGrabber posted:

Also do they kill teepo again? I stopped playing the last one when they killed teepo, those bastards.

Teepo comes back in like 2 hours.

# ¿ Aug 22, 2014 03:17

Endorph: Jul 22, 2009

gannyGrabber posted:

After the party welcomes back Alvin for the 187108951078th time, morale was at an all-time low. Then they killed Teepo and broke what's-her-name (Elize?). There's only so much horrible poo poo that I can put up with in a game. Does Alvin die in this one? Please tell me he dies in this one.

Dude, teepo dying is like the only reason Elize comes out of her shell and starts saying what she actually means. It's a Good Thing.

# ¿ Aug 22, 2014 14:44

Endorph: Jul 22, 2009

Probably not? The story is 50% expanding on Xillia 1's story and the battle system is almost but not quite exactly the same.

# ¿ Aug 22, 2014 15:25

Endorph: Jul 22, 2009

Well, it probably felt half-assed to you because it was pretty rushed (though I liked the voice-acting.)

Anyway, this game is a sequel and reuses a lot of voice acting, so you might think of it as half-assed too.

# ¿ Aug 22, 2014 15:32

Endorph: Jul 22, 2009

Yeah, the debt's another one of those things in games that's more for flavor than actual gameplay effect but people still blow out of proportion. Just relax about it and you'll be more than fine.

# ¿ Aug 22, 2014 19:49

Endorph: Jul 22, 2009

The recycled stuff doesn't bother me, but for some insane reason Xillia 1 is my favorite game of all time, so I'd probably take a game that was just that again only with Ludger lazily photoshopped over Jude.

# ¿ Aug 23, 2014 14:58

Endorph: Jul 22, 2009

virtualboyCOLOR posted:

Also mods should ban anyone who voted for Graces since anyone who liked that game is a pedophile.

uhhh?

# ¿ Aug 24, 2014 04:39

Endorph: Jul 22, 2009

Well, the plot going to poo poo in the third act is kind of a 'but,' but nothing's perfect.

Also, am I the only one having trouble making use of all of Ludger's movesets? Two would be fine, it'd just be like a Graces character sort of, but three feels like too many and it's kind of hard to keep all three movesets in mind while doing combos. I often find myself ignoring guns unless the enemy's specifically weak to them or I'm linking with Alvin. The fact that the switch input is two buttons instead of one doesn't help - sometimes I accidentally mash it out and get swords when I want guns or hammer when I want swords, or whatever.

# ¿ Aug 24, 2014 17:10

Endorph: Jul 22, 2009

Skeezy posted:

So I'm curious, I just got to Trigleph in Xillia 1. About how much of the game is left at this point?

You're pretty much in the final stretch. You could finish it in an afternoon at this point.

# ¿ Aug 24, 2014 20:23

Endorph: Jul 22, 2009

I think Alvin goes 'Sharing is Caring' when he links with Elize, too.

# ¿ Aug 25, 2014 09:18

Endorph: Jul 22, 2009

Yeah, just constantly have the cats out getting stuff. It's super simple and you don't have to think that hard about it.

# ¿ Aug 25, 2014 17:00

Endorph: Jul 22, 2009

Ivar and Driselle should have been party members.

# ¿ Aug 26, 2014 09:57

Endorph: Jul 22, 2009

Momomo posted:

You are the only person I've ever seen that wants Ivar around.

I actually think he's kind of funny, at least in this game. I got a good laugh out of him and the guns.

# ¿ Aug 26, 2014 10:31

Endorph: Jul 22, 2009

Mr. Fortitude posted:

What's the easter egg with the ringtone?

It's this song from Tales of Eternia. It also played when you fought Reid in Abyss.

# ¿ Aug 26, 2014 12:08

Endorph: Jul 22, 2009

BearDrivingTruck posted:

I'm having fun with the game so far, but my only real huge complaint is that cutscenes move forward like a powerpoint presentation-- they'll never stay on the same frame for more than a few seconds, characters will be in a wildly different pose from moment to moment... no fluidity, basically. It's really jarring, and makes it feel a bit cheap.

Xillia 1 had that problem, too, especially whenever Ivar was on screen.

# ¿ Aug 26, 2014 15:06

Endorph: Jul 22, 2009

Nah, it does feel worse here. To be fair, they cranked this out in like a year.

# ¿ Aug 26, 2014 15:11

Endorph: Jul 22, 2009

Sydin posted:

Would it kill Namco to actually take some time and finish a Tales game for once, polish and all? And I mean without having to come back a year later with an updated re-release to complete it.

That's what they seem to be doing with Zestiria. We have a lot of info on it and it's still a ways off: if they're aiming for the 20th anniversary of Tales, it won't be out until winter 2015, though of course they could just be aiming for the same year and not the same exact timeframe.

# ¿ Aug 26, 2014 17:22

Endorph: Jul 22, 2009

I was a little confused by the Ailium Orb at first, but once I realized it was basically just filling up bars, I came to like it a lot more than the first game's system. Sure, you're still prioritizing artes 99% of the time, but at least you can see what those artes are before you get them. I even had to actually think about things a couple of times!

Way better than Xillia 1, where you just had to blindly guess. Is this random skill icon absolutely critical to how the character functions (Most of Milla's mid-air skills) or is it worthless crap (chicken run)? Who knows!

Even worthless skills like Chicken Run at least give you an SP point or two, too. It's a way better system all around. I just wish it explained itself better visually. Maybe instead of the weird grid, have it as bars with the skills/artes as lines across them at certain points. That way you could see everything at once.

# ¿ Aug 27, 2014 10:51

Endorph: Jul 22, 2009

evilalien posted:

You could see exactly what you were unlocking in Xillia 1 too...

Could you? You could see what they were by the icons (artes vs skills) but could you actually see what they actually were? Like, what skill or arte? I've played that game twice and I never noticed any button or whatever to do that.

# ¿ Aug 27, 2014 13:59

Endorph: Jul 22, 2009

Well, I guess that makes me an idiot.

Still like it more than the Lilium Orb though, since it doesn't make you nanny it every single level.

# ¿ Aug 27, 2014 14:38

Endorph: Jul 22, 2009

ImpAtom posted:

I like it a lot less because I'm forced to get a whole bunch of poo poo I have no use for instead of being able to pick the abilities I want.

Well, like I said, even worthless abilities at least get you some SP. And Xillia 1's late game was 50% 'empty levels', since you didn't have enough points to get to the actual arte/skill icons, so you just got random stats that didn't really mean anything.

Neither is really setting the world on fire in terms of customization, so I like the one that takes me less time to mess with.

# ¿ Aug 27, 2014 14:44

Endorph: Jul 22, 2009

Are you playing for the story or the gameplay?

If you don't care about story at all, then sure. But if you do care about the story, like 80% of the game is just expanding on characters and plot points from Xillia 1.

# ¿ Aug 30, 2014 16:25

Endorph: Jul 22, 2009

Is there a good guide for the elite monster locations? I've been wandering around the sapstrath deepwood for 20 minutes trying to find the stump. Then again, I hate the sapstrath deepwoods.

# ¿ Aug 30, 2014 18:12

Endorph: Jul 22, 2009

dudermcbrohan posted:

I found him at the green spot here. http://imgur.com/fZfmvhr

Thanks man, got him in one.

Also with Poker don't get greedy until you have a lot of money. And maybe don't get greedy at all. There's basically no way to lose money since you're betting 100 out of like 10000 and any combo of cards results in a profit, so you can just play scared and make money slowly but surely.

# ¿ Aug 30, 2014 23:18

Endorph: Jul 22, 2009

Yeah Elle was actually really funny and likable. She didn't drag the game down at all - if anything, she elevated it. She was a little annoying at the start but once her and Ludger became partners she was cute. Definitely one of the best little kid characters in RPGs.

# ¿ Aug 30, 2014 23:28

Endorph: Jul 22, 2009

Eddain posted:

Man are all Tales games mandated to have extremely lovely final dungeons? This place is annoying as gently caress.

Xillia 1's was over in like ten minutes. You moved forward, you fought Wingul, cool music kicked in, you solo'd some random enemies, then Gaius and Muzet took your revolution.

I think there's maps of Xillia 2's final dungeon laying around. It can go through different layouts.

# ¿ Aug 31, 2014 01:13

Endorph: Jul 22, 2009

If you have the DLC installed in your Xillia 1 file, it should be unlocked automatically in your Xillia 2 file. There's no process or anything.

# ¿ Sep 1, 2014 01:52

Endorph: Jul 22, 2009

Yeah I forgot to mention that. There's no notification for that, so make sure to check your DLC inventory.

# ¿ Sep 1, 2014 02:06

Endorph: Jul 22, 2009

OneDeadman posted:

Yep, I'm not sure exactly about the timing on the swap of weapons but it's certainly possible.

I found the easiest way to deal with this fight was to just use a super simple combo of Azure Edge -> Couple of Swings -> That one Fire/Wind Sword arte (binding chains?)

Then hope to god you never get hit by the Arcane Arte and end up confused.

Energy Shackles is the arte you're thinking of. And be sure to tack on a Falling Thunder at the end just because you should do that at teh end of every Ludger sword combo.

Endorph fucked around with this message at 02:17 on Sep 1, 2014

# ¿ Sep 1, 2014 02:13

Endorph: Jul 22, 2009

Momomo posted:

Hold both L1 and Up/Down on the stick and press X. It's about as intuitive as it sounds.

The control scheme seems pretty overloaded in this game. I barely ever use the sidesteps or the launchers just because there's so many buttons to push.

# ¿ Sep 1, 2014 02:39

Endorph: Jul 22, 2009

Sydin posted:

The poker game uses Abyss's casino music.

I calculate I'd need somewhere in the ballpark of 5 million chips to pay off the full debt, which doesn't seem hard as much as it does tedious. I'm getting perfectly fine hands even without the gold/silver dice, but high/low is kicking my rear end. It has to be rigged to gently caress with me: there is no way in hell you'd draw this many evens in real life. I can accept "you had two choices, and you chose wrong", but "no matter what you chose you lose anyway, sucker" five hands in a row is just a little infuriating.

Goddamn it, why did I have to find the poker game? Because of my completionist compulsion I won't be able to continue on until I've paid off the entire debt and gotten all costume poker rewards.

The best thing to do with the poker game is to just not get greedy. There's no way of losing any real money once you get going, since you're playing with 100 at a time, so just hop off double or nothing once you get around 10k.

# ¿ Sep 1, 2014 13:56

Endorph: Jul 22, 2009

Ludger linking with them in battle raises it, just having them in your party doesn't.

# ¿ Sep 1, 2014 17:29

Endorph: Jul 22, 2009

Jobs, selling for cash, and custom orders.

# ¿ Sep 1, 2014 19:13

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# ¿ Apr 29, 2024 14:11

Endorph: Jul 22, 2009

BearDrivingTruck posted:

Also, I keep hearing that you can get a bonus scene with Alt Milla if you get her affection high enough. What's the minimum number of hearts for that?

Also late on this, and I'm not sure on the number of hearts, but I got it without ever feeding her friendship potions and barely linking with her. Just making most of the right dialogue choices and doing her chapters should be enough. She was around 4, same as everyone else.

# ¿ Sep 1, 2014 22:19

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