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how you're a lot like them, when it comes right down to it. If you are playing a roleplaying game from japan (a "jrpg") and the villian does not lecture you about this at length, then finish the bottle.
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But please game responsibly.
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Aug 22, 2014 05:10
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not that many jrpg villains do that actually some might have a line but it isn't really a 'lecture at length' thing they usually do more lectures about humanity at large or w/e
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Aug 22, 2014 05:11
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayNe9Hoxmb0 it's in the lyrics to armstrong's fight in revengeance
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Aug 22, 2014 05:12
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I'm playing Ys Celceta now and the villian is doing it. Ys is supposed to be a game where I run around and bump into people with careless abandon and no one lectures me 
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Aug 22, 2014 05:14
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Meow Tse-tung posted:I'm playing Ys Celceta now and the villian is doing it. Ys is supposed to be a game where I run around and bump into people with careless abandon and no one lectures me yeah they started doing this in all the recent ys games ive played, i dont know who gave them idea people wanted more of the Incredible Ys Storyline
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Aug 22, 2014 05:15
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ys mystified me when i played the steam port and the intro movie kept flashing "WANDERING ISLAND ISU VANISHED" across the screen like i was supposed to know what the gently caress
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Aug 22, 2014 05:22
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Ys 3 makes me chuckle in ways that I have a hard time explaining. It's just so ridiculously balls-out; the music and graphics give the impression that as soon as you press right on the dpad, all hell breaks loose and your man goes in a out-of-control spiraling rage of crazy running and stabbing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYmJqUC4ZIk&t=807s
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Aug 22, 2014 05:28
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The White Dragon posted:ys mystified me when i played the steam port and the intro movie kept flashing "WANDERING ISLAND ISU VANISHED" across the screen like i was supposed to know what the gently caress The best thing about Ys until the recent ones is that you don't have to give even half a poo poo about what's going on, you just talk to a few people in town until they give you a sword, and then you run around bump-slicing everything on the continent until you win.
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Aug 22, 2014 05:30
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jRPG villains go on nihilist rants not "we're not so different you and I" rants, the latter is pure WRPGs
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Aug 22, 2014 05:33
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The Sharmat posted:jRPG villains go on nihilist rants not "we're not so different you and I" rants, the latter is pure WRPGs I feel like that's 1990s jrpg villians because I swear every one I've played in recent years has done this poo poo without exception.
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Aug 22, 2014 05:34
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Meow Tse-tung posted:I feel like that's 1990s jrpg villians because I swear every one I've played in recent years has done this poo poo without exception.
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Aug 22, 2014 05:37
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to be fair the only JRPG I've played that was made after like 2003 was FFXII so maybe they've moved on
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Aug 22, 2014 05:39
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Earthbound never needed to suggest that I'm exactly like Pokey. The game was before its time by avoiding to state the obvious.
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Aug 22, 2014 05:46
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Has there ever been a game where the villain makes that argument but he does it in a really compelling way that actually makes a bunch of sense? Then the character actually ends up empathizing with the villain and they join forces and from that point until the end of the game you end up working with the villain and beat up all of your former comrades/smash the state? I'd take at least 2 shots/play that game if it exists and is done well.
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Aug 22, 2014 05:50
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Crown Face posted:Has there ever been a game where the villain makes that argument but he does it in a really compelling way that actually makes a bunch of sense? like soul nomad and the world eaters where gig is like 'hey the world loving sucks and everyone around you is just lying to you' and you can be like 'ya' and kill everybody and then kill him too
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Aug 22, 2014 05:53
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Guess I'm taking some shots/playing that game then because that sounds pretty rad.
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Aug 22, 2014 05:54
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the bit in metal gear rising where the one dude does this to raiden and instead of denying it or getting really choked up he just goes "oh, huh, I guess I am a monster  " and proceeds to murder the gently caress out of him and all the other bad guys without any guilt is one of my favorite cutscenes in any videogame
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Aug 22, 2014 05:56
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Crown Face posted:Guess I'm taking some shots/playing that game then because that sounds pretty rad. even before you get to unlock that option it's a pretty cool game, way more hosed up then the almost anime art implies
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Aug 22, 2014 05:57
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Crown Face posted:Guess I'm taking some shots/playing that game then because that sounds pretty rad. and gameplay is fun and doesn't descend into grinding like most NIS games
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Aug 22, 2014 05:58
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I guess you're right, I just realized I haven't played a recent rpg in forever and am mostly replaying a lot of older stuff on my vita. The game before Ys was parasite eve and it lectured me pretty heavily, and before that was Nier and it pretty much did too but I'm not sure that really applies. Before that I was playing BG2 and assorted wrpgs so maybe I just had a really long streak of hearing this 100 times. In any case, you can't have a bottle every time a jrpg talks about existential nihilism because you would die of alcohol poisoning so I am keeping the rules the same.
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Aug 22, 2014 05:59
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Crown Face posted:Has there ever been a game where the villain makes that argument but he does it in a really compelling way that actually makes a bunch of sense? it's not quite the same but in The Witcher 2 you get a choice on whether you actually even really want to fight the final boss or not.
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Crown Face posted:Has there ever been a game where the villain makes that argument but he does it in a really compelling way that actually makes a bunch of sense? I still say Zoltan Kulle is the good guy in diablo 3
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Mr.Unique-Name posted:I still say Zoltan Kulle is the good guy in diablo 3  this plus leah being hugely ungrateful and skeptical towards cain are the key stories of D3. "Even I took his wisdom for granted." BITCH EVERYBODY BUT YOU IN THE WHOLE WORLD LISTENED TO EVERY SINGLE WORD THAT CAME OUT OF HIS MOUTH LIKE IT WAS GOSPEL. YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE WHO TOOK HIS WISDOM FOR GRANTED.
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blizzard is probably the worst story teller of all AAA game developers
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Aug 22, 2014 07:18
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in pre-ff7 jrpgs the villains give a generic monologue about they just want to DESTROOYYYYYYYY/RULLLLEEEEEE EVERYTHINGGGGG and how you cant stop them instead of trying to psychoanalyze you or some poo poo
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dagoth ur was probably the coolest bad guy. his mini bosses brought brandy and we had a nice chat before battling. he even told me to come back and return when I showed up before I was ready. nice chap. we talked about how it was my destiny to come to him and that we should join forces since we were both betrayed. we had so much in common
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Aug 22, 2014 11:58
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closeted republican posted:in pre-ff7 jrpgs the villains give a generic monologue about they just want to DESTROOYYYYYYYY/RULLLLEEEEEE EVERYTHINGGGGG and how you cant stop them instead of trying to psychoanalyze you or some poo poo My favorite was kefka. He just told everyone that they sounded like a pile of self help booklets and that he was going to create a monument to nonexistence, and to deal with it.
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Aug 22, 2014 12:08
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This poo poo right here :picard:
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Was there really ever a better jrpg villain than Kefka
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Gimbal lock posted:Earthbound never needed to suggest that I'm exactly like Pokey. The game was before its time by avoiding to state the obvious. earthbound was good like that.
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Crown Face posted:Has there ever been a game where the villain makes that argument but he does it in a really compelling way that actually makes a bunch of sense? Der Langrisser. You are the child of light fighting the Empire. Only you can then join the Empire and kill all your friends, or you can change your mind again and join chaos and kill your former enemies-turned-allies, or you can go your own way and smash them all (I guess, I never saw that route). This was on the SNES. Lots of lecturing either way, though.
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Benny D posted:Was there really ever a better jrpg villain than Kefka literally all of them
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Ys III and Ys: The Oath in Felghana are awesome.
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darealkooky posted:the bit in metal gear rising where the one dude does this to raiden and instead of denying it or getting really choked up he just goes "oh, huh, I guess I am a monster IT'S TIME FOR JACK TO LET 'ER RIP
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Take a shot every-time you see something loving creepy in a jrpg. This game is good because it kills anyone who plays jrpgs
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That one bad guy from Suikoden II didn't really lecture you. He just likes killing and burning things and making people act like pigs. Pretty solid bad guy imo.
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Cesar Cedeno posted:Take a shot every-time you see something loving creepy in a jrpg. do boob plate and awkward sex scenes count as "loving creepy"? if so we need to remove every wrpg made since like 95
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Crown Face posted:Has there ever been a game where the villain makes that argument but he does it in a really compelling way that actually makes a bunch of sense? Growlanser 2, where if you meet the secret objective in every mission, the villain is like "god drat you're the best soldier i've ever fuckin' seen, let's team up and overthrow the government" and then you do, and you can even backstab him in the end and take over his free nation it's also the only story path where you get to kill the fat rear end in a top hat military instructor from the beginning of the game
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darealkooky posted:do boob plate and awkward sex scenes count as "loving creepy"? if so we need to remove every wrpg made since like 95 Yes and...yes.
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