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Meursault Horny posted:No, but being clever makes you an atheist. Cheers. You paid 10 dollars to post on this site you massive loving incompetent, you never get to claim to be intelligent ever again.
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gggiiimmmppp posted:whats weird though is that unlike the rest of the internet only the theists here insist on making dumb threads about how smart they are This thread was not at all a quote of something someone else said and you are proving how clever atheists are by picking up on that. Good job!
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Aug 23, 2014 20:10
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gggiiimmmppp posted:I didn't read the op Then how do you know what it was about? You read the OP and now everyone knows it. Rub your face in the shame that is this poo poo post op. Rub in it.
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Aug 23, 2014 20:22
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Pornographic Memory posted:i dont know where a guy would get the idea that a thread entitled "atheism does not make you clever" was about a guy trying to be smart and take atheists down a peg or some other retarded religious debate Neither do I, this is GBS. What the gently caress would make you think that?
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Aug 23, 2014 20:27
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Moridin920 posted:if you can't tell the difference between the motivations of the Inquisition vs the motivations of the Soviet purges, I don't know what to tell you. There weren't any. The Inquisition, depending on which one you are talking about, was either a tool of the status quo to maintain order and keep the rabble from flipping the gently caress out, or if you go with the non-Church ones it was an excuse to oppress Jews and other undesirables by the secular authority. Either way, religion wasn't the main motivating factor of *any* inquisitorial group. It was secular stability, not rule of canon law. Which...how is that functionally different than the purges of the communists? Because the party isn't a religious group? It's still a group trying to maintain it's power and control by oppressing others. It's not like communists don't preach a moral component to the collectivist movement they are all a part of. Is it the removal of souls and an afterlife that makes it so different to you? quote:Stalin never wrote a book that was the equivalent of the Malleus Maleficarum, for one thing. "Well at least he didn't write a book, God  ". Especially about a book the Church condemned almost instantly, what sort of argument is that? Like beyond saying "This is immoral and illegal and really has nothing to do with our teachings", which they did, what more could the church do to come out against that? But that makes religion worse, because Stalin never wrote a book.quote:All the Abrahamic religions preach destruction of infidels and heretics as a rule. Which rule is that? quote:Being Christian doesn't make you a pedophile, but it does make you a bigot imo You clearly don't know you are talking about in previous points, yet you are dismissing a wide swath of people out of hand based on them so.....what does that make you other than a bigot?
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Aug 24, 2014 03:33
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Kanthulhu posted:But atheism itself isn't a set of beliefs, it's just the rejection of one belief. Which in and of itself is a statement of belief. Belief is tied up with spiritual terminology a lot, but at the end of the day it's just "What you believe to be true". If you say "I don't think there is a god" or even "I don't know if there is or isn't a god", that's a belief. It's not a belief system, a codified and regimented overarching process of belief. It's still a belief. Words have meanings that don't go away just because they conflict with your social leanings.
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Aug 24, 2014 03:43
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Moridin920 posted:lol yeah almost instantly too bad for everyone in that in between period during the Spanish Inquisition The Spanish Inquisition wasn't run by the Church. It was established by the monarchy. It's...why it's the Spanish Inquisition, you know? To make a system outside Papal control. Actually I guess you don't know. Again, the church condemned the work right away. quote:I already quoted two regarding Jesus' teachings Which you clearly don't understand, but you clearly don't actually give a poo poo about the historical implications of the subject and it's impact on humanity. I think you should stick to bumper stickers and youtube videos, they might better capture your unique and compelling philosophical views. quote:I'm dismissing a wide swath of people based on the fact that they think white Europeans were made in God's image and other cultures are wrong. Oh, so you're just a boring "gently caress you dad!" internet poster going off on a cliche establishment, forgetting that the vast majority of religious people are not and have never been white. You only care about the white folks. quote:Maybe not. I just think it's disingenuous to equate atheism and Abrahamic religions because the former is the absence of belief and the latter has a whole dogma and pony show associated with it that makes people do shithouse crazy things. I don't know, you are clearly an atheist and thought posting in this thread was a good idea, so maybe people don't need religion to be crazy and do stupid things.
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Aug 24, 2014 03:51
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Yeah I mean I don't know where you thought there was something interesting or funny going on but then, THEN miltank showed up and there were problems. It's a thread started to make fun of Total Biscuit, how funny did you think it was going to be?
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Aug 24, 2014 16:49
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Big Beef City posted:Some of us have standards. Comedy gold standards. And some of us pay 10 dollars to post here, sometimes repeatedly. And we clearly have no standards.
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Aug 24, 2014 17:20
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bigzak posted:lol god isn't real Counterpoint: You aren't real.
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Aug 25, 2014 00:39
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Cardiovorax posted:i swear it's like nobody learns even the most basic loving things about epistemology anymore ....ye...yes? 99% of humanity isn't going to learn the first thing about epistemology. Literally, they are not even going to learn what it means. Guess what, not only do most people not know how to articulate the difference between a priori and a posteriori knowledge, they aren't even going to know what those things mean.
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Aug 25, 2014 01:41
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Tautologicus posted:oh my god, do we have someone here who actually *knows* something?? at last!! help us all! Dude no, epistemology is a faster trip up your own rear end in a top hat than someone getting high and trying to explain their philosophical examination of The Matrix trilogy. Nobody needs that poo poo if they aren't getting paid, and needless to say no philosophy majors are getting paid to do anything but teach philosophy.
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Aug 25, 2014 01:53
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Panzeh posted:when the poo poo hits the fan would you rather have a shotgun or a bible Bible. I can use rhetoric to convince other people with shotguns to do poo poo for me. Only so much I can do on my own with just a single shotgun. Seriously dude think this poo poo through for more than a minute.
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Aug 25, 2014 02:13
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Weed's kind of boring, you really didn't come up with anything more interesting than that?
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Aug 25, 2014 04:02
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Who What Now posted:I didn't have to come up with anything in the first place, so I don't know what your bitching about. Like Jesus, at least mix it up and take some psychedelics on occasion or something. It's barely a drug. Panzeh posted:yes i'm sure you'll win people over with biblical rhetoric Yeah, because historically it's had a really hard time convincing people to do poo poo I know. Lord knows people in America with guns are *totally* disinclined to listen to it.
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Aug 25, 2014 04:13
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Panzeh posted:it aint the bible doing the convincing, bro Oh, so it's "I'm sure you'll win people over with biblical rhetoric", not "I'm sure you'll win people over with biblical rhetoric". Gotcha now. In which case: You're a humorless oval office and why the gently caress would I want you anywhere near me if I had a choice?
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Aug 25, 2014 04:23
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Panzeh posted:well calling someone a humorless oval office and then advocating the bible as rhetorical flourish sounds really odd considering humorless oval office is a pretty apt description of its authors Nah there's a lot of blood and sex and random insanity, it's alright. It can lose a bit in English translations, and there is some boring poo poo too. Really I'd take it over anything you've ever posted in your life on balance though.
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Aug 25, 2014 04:46
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In what weird loving intersection of autism and atheism did that chart come about?
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Aug 25, 2014 06:26
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It's really not from first glance. A bunch of it is poo poo like "Guess what, the source material wasn't actually in English and the words used by translators aren't strictly the same as the original passages". Or "This metaphor says a different thing than this metaphor". Wow. You got them, group loving profaning the English language by calling itself the Reason Project. There's a reason I say there are like 5 people on the planet equipped to read the Bible. You pick up a King James or whatever, you haven't actually read the Bible. You've....what is an example that nerds on the internet would get? You've read some fan groups translation of the anime that is the Bible. A more apt criticism of the Bible is that random motherfuckers are probably not one of those 5 people, so they are basing their life on the interpretation of the original work that someone else came up with. That's a fair criticism. This nickle and diming poo poo of ignoring the reality of translating a work into a different language and calling it a "contradiction" isn't.
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Aug 25, 2014 07:04
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Moridin920 posted:yeah it's almost like the bible was written by committee and then translated over and over and over again in the longest running game of telephone ever and not the actual word of God Yes, that's roughly what the Catholic Church believes too. I'm glad you are opening up to them finally! The Catholic Church does not consider God the author of the Bible, it only considers him an inspiration. Same for a lot of Protestants. It's only the Evangelicals really that get quite so....literal about things.
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Aug 25, 2014 07:12
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The Protagonist posted:the Point of the chart, i think, is to establish fallibility. To who, Catholics and most Protestants already teach that. It's a work inspired by God, but written by man. It's not perfect, and it's open to interpretation. poo poo like that is sort of the entire reason the Catholic Church has a Pope in the first place. It's not like they just wanted to have a King of Jesus or something, he actually had a job too. The only people that really go whole hog on the literalist interpretation of things are Evangelicals. Evangelicals are loving crazy. They'll counter your chart with scissors. Not to the chart, to your blaspheming whore eyes. Nobody needs that type of poo poo in their life. Like you can laugh at them for believing in God....from the internet, or a liberal city miles away from them. You live in an area they control, good luck with that! They will do their damnedest to show you hell is real, and it most certainly *is* other people.
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Aug 25, 2014 07:23
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gary oldmans diary posted:what a bible weeabu sounds like giving the no true scotsbibble Dumbshit I just insulted every single person that bases their life on the Bible and you are too stupid to realize it.
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Aug 25, 2014 07:58
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Did a priest gently caress you as a child or something? No? Pity. It might have made you interesting.
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Aug 25, 2014 08:18
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gary oldmans diary posted:mmm interesting yes that does cut so deep tell me more about the bibble and jesus that sounds absolutely fascinating Bro I'm sorry nobody gives a poo poo what you write or what you say or if you live or die and that the Bible is still going to be an important historical document thousands and thousands of years from now, but you need to get over it. You don't matter. The Bible does. That's just the way it is.
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Aug 25, 2014 08:37
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gary oldmans diary posted:i and others There are no others. You are alone. You are always going to be alone. quote:tell me more about the bibble as i understand it if i worship this jesus person i get to live forever I'm not a Christian, go ask Kyrie eleison about that.
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Aug 25, 2014 08:44
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Maoist Pussy posted:Anyone life worth living is necessarily rare No life is worth living, and there isn't anything more common than nothing.
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Aug 25, 2014 08:48
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Maoist Pussy posted:You can't know that unless you are living one. You can't know anything.
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Aug 25, 2014 08:52
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Maoist Pussy posted:A good religion would be called The Greased Fist and to achieve salvation you have to get fisted, by me. Various sects of Buddhism and Taoism go in for that sort of thing. No pesky God to deal with either! Go to town.
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Aug 25, 2014 09:21
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Why would you think that? People will spend appreciable fractions of their lives watching animals doing crazy poo poo on youtube all day, why would God be any different?
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Aug 25, 2014 09:29
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Moridin920 posted:we wouldn't even be able to comprehend such a thing let alone have a relationship with it That's your problem. The original point was coming at it from the God side of the equation. The fact you don't rate in comparison doesn't mean people can't be interesting. Or to keep in my general frame of mind towards you people: God being vast doesn't preclude you being a total joke. Why shouldn't God laugh too? Moridin920 posted:so why is there so much misery in the world if god is so great "Because you're a oval office, but if you weren't free to be a oval office you wouldn't be anything" is the general answer. And the answer to that, of course, is also quite simple: Stop being such a oval office.
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Aug 25, 2014 09:34
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Torka posted:yeah and I don't feel that that was answered Amusement. Moridin920 posted:because he knows all the jokes before anyone tells them I know the punchline to jokes I've laughed at anyways. It's all about timing really. For an atheist you sure have a lot of ideas about what God would have to be. Don't you find that odd? That you have so many preconceived notions of what the thing you don't even believe is real has to be? Mulva fucked around with this message at 09:41 on Aug 25, 2014 |
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Aug 25, 2014 09:38
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Torka posted:what kind of amusement do you get from looking at a paramecium that lasts more than an hour or so, let alone forever I've sat in total darkness contemplating the feeling of letting time pass for way longer than that, and on multiple occasions. Don't kinkshame your God. Maoist Pussy posted:You first? But I don't actually want the world to be a better place.
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Aug 25, 2014 09:42
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Negative Entropy posted:If God made us in his image and obsessively watches us he's a loving narcissist. So when you imagine yourself with power, it's as an old man watching people masturbate? Interesting.
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Aug 25, 2014 10:01
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Berk Berkly posted:A God with no second shots, eternal life or afterlife. I bet that must feel like a galaxy sized middle finger flipping you off for all eternity. Yes, that's the Jews alright. Negative Entropy posted:The Abrahamic God actually seems like a loser. The Old Testament God in particular sounds like what would happen if the creepy kid no one talked to in school got control of his own little world. Well again, Old Testament God was a massive prick to the Jews...and more lenient to the non-Jews by and large. The Jews are so hosed in the head even their religion is basically "Yeah, it sucks to be a Jew".
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Aug 25, 2014 10:07
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Maoist Pussy posted:Well, religioners are usually gay virgins and old ladies, aka the "nothing to lose" category What do you have against gay people and old folks?
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Aug 25, 2014 22:26
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Maoist Pussy posted:Gay virgins, Boogaleeboo. Gay virgins. Literally every gay has been a virgin at some point, unless you are advocating gay baby rape. Are you advocating gay baby rape Maoist Pussy?
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Aug 25, 2014 22:44
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Ableist Kinkshamer posted:don't bother replying, i know the answer is something about how god is all-powerful and we don't understand him fully (basically just boils down to "a wizard did it"), the ultimate cop-out excuse for why it all falls apart under the slightest scrutiny Then why ask the question?
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Aug 26, 2014 21:28
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Tautologicus posted:Cause he wants to stick it to religious people cause they're so much dumber than him. But none of them are reading it! He's just having conversations with the imaginary people in his head, and I thought the entire point was not to have imaginary conversations with the people in your head.
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Aug 26, 2014 21:46
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Ableist Kinkshamer posted:he read it and responded to it, so unless you believe he's a collective hallucination you're plainly wrong Like I've called you stupid in this and a lot of other threads, but just to put the nail in the coffin of you being an interesting or worthwhile human being are you seriously telling me you consider kyrie eleison a religious person?
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Ableist Kinkshamer posted:are you seriously using a no true scotsman argument Fuckwit that doesn't apply in this situation, and I'm beginning to think you and most other people here don't even know what it means. Every argument that "thing isn't actually thing" isn't a "No true Scotsman". To fit, it has to be an argument that the label doesn't apply because of an action taken. If I said kyrie eleison wasn't really religious because they are arguing like a moron on the internet and religious people don't do that, and kyrie eleison claims to be religious, and I go kyrie eleison isn't *really* religious? That is a "No true Scotsman". If I say that kyrie eleison is just a religion themed troll, hence the name and the actions taken over the years, that isn't. It has nothing to do with any group or label, it's just talking about kyrie eleison's behavior alone. You don't know what words mean and I do. That's one of the many reasons I think I'm smarter than you.
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