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Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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Here's some crisp clear footage of bigfoot, the yeti, the chupacabra and the Mongolian death worm CHECKMATE SKEPTARD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4DEsgja2VI

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Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

Dusty Baker 2 posted:

fake and gay

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0EZobdiJ4M

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

For real though, the prevalence of video cameras and social media combined with crippling scientific ignorance is making belief in aliens and cryptid creatures much much more widespread rather than debunking them, especially when the news media loves reporting on them whenever they come up. We've got weird looking but explainable animal corpses that regularly freak people out, stills from old horror films freaking everyone out, hoaxers trying their hardest to fool everyone and they're all made to look like footage captured on people's cell phones. There was a great hoax a few years ago about a UFO appearing over Temple Mount in Jerusalem where they made several fake videos of the same 'event' shot from several different angles and released a few days apart. There was also the guy who set up a video camera next to an empty field and claimed that the bugs flying over the field were really UFOs buzzing over the city which got a shitload of press and had a lot of people confused for ages.

And we'll always have sad motherfuckers who so desperately want these mysteries to be real that they'll claim that even the blurriest, most insignificant details in random videos are actually highly significant and will FINALLY PROVE SCIENCE WRONG :argh: and convince the entire world that the believer was right all this time, such as this guy who freezes videos and zooms in on random pixels and claims that they're bigfoot faces:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKB-yx5PM0M
In this follow up video he acknowledges that pareidolia is an issue and he might just be seeing faces in random patterns and his solution to this is to create a database of all these faces so he can cross reference them and see which ones keep coming up because that'll prove that they're genuine. Because confirmation bias is just as good as actual data, right? :downs:

And then there's people who are posting compelling evidence about stuff like the HAARP rainbow aerosol conspiracy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c6HsiixFS8

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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Handen posted:

I've been nerding out over UFOs for a long-rear end time and the two most convincing video(s) I've ever see that don't set off my bullshit alarm are the two taken of this single event in the video below. I can't find the english version so I hope you don't mind spanish.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lKVXbeLHfg

Looks like a kite train to me.


Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

The Wizard of Poz posted:

you are stupid as hell. the very fact that it purports to be a video of a ufo should immediately set off a normal human beings bullshit alarm

It was an object which was flying and it hadn't been identified so that makes it a UFO by definition. :colbert:


Well, it was unidentified until Handen posted it in this thread and I identified it as a kite so I guess it's an IFO now.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right
Also everyone you see on TV is a reptilian shapeshifter. Everyone. Every. Single. Person.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ty3JLDAIPdI

Especially Niki Minaj. If you had any doubt here's a 16 minute video compilation of closeups of her eyes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiFrQA75crQ


The evidence is right there in front of you, wake up sheeple
:tinfoil::tinfoil::tinfoil::tinfoil:

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right
Okay, all that other stuff might be fake bullshit but at least we know that spirit orbs are real

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOyCt7kNATY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-VRLzV8EqA

Spirit orb science has progressed so far that we now know the significance of the different sizes and colours of these otherworldly orbs:

quote:

Black: Malevolent
Blue (dark): Shy spirit
Blue (light): Tranquil, peace
Blue (medium): Protection
Brown: Danger or earthbound
Gold: Angelic, unconditional love
Green: Healing orb or spirit
Lavender: Messenger from God
Orange: Protection, forgiveness
Peach: Spirit sent to comfort you
Pink: Accepting spirit
Purple: Orb of information
Red: Anger or passion
Silver: Messenger
Violet: Guide for spiritual matters
White: Protection of holy light and power
Yellow: Warning

Anyone who points out that they're just a well known photographic artifact caused by backscatter /near-camera reflections of dust or moisture or tiny bugs is a horrible monster who is actively trying to impede the spiritual awakening of the human race and should be ignored. :colbert:

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

Verisimilidude posted:

The best part is reality is far more interesting and imaginative than people who make UFO videos.

Yeah, this. The thought pattern behind believing in UFOs/bigfoot/ghosts/spirit orbs/etc is verrrrry similar to the mindset required to believe in conspiracy theories and they often cross over a whole lot. Take a bunch of unverifiable untestable anecdotal evidence from witnesses who saw something while they were in a heightened emotional state, sprinkle in a bunch of blurry indistinct photographic/video evidence (often requiring the videos to be slowed down and zoomed in and have big red circles added so others can see what you think is there), throw together some spurious unprovable theory to explain it all, dismiss all attempts to fit a mundane explanation to the 'evidence' as close-minded sheeple refusing to see past scientific 'dogma' and you're good to go. Anecdotal evidence is totally reliable since there's thousands of reports of this thing and there's reports going back years and even the local indigenous population has legends that are really similar therefore there has to be something behind all this, right? (Ignore the fact that brand new supernatural creatures such the the Chupacabra and Slenderman also fit into all these descriptions even though we can trace their origin back to a known fictional source.) The rest of the world might be too blind to put it all together but the true believer joined the dots and made all the connections and totally figured out what was really going on and it's only a matter of time before irrefutable evidence comes to hand and then everyone else will have to admit that they were wrong and the true believer was right!

Arguing with these people really feels like trying to argue with a Young Earth Creationist or Conspiracy Theorist. They'll drag up one 'fact' and make a spurious argument as to why the Scientific Establishment is totally wrong in its interpretation of that ambiguous situation (they always talk about the various fields of scientific endeavour as if they're one big incorporated entity which presents a united front on all matters and refuses to consider opposing opinions. They also often compare themselves to Galileo) and because reality is intricately complex and diverse it can take thousands and thousands of words just to disprove one dumb sentence and by the time you've finished that they've either dug up yet another spurious 'fact' or they've pounced onto one tiny part of your argument and posted 25 links to conspiracy sites that apparently disprove it. They love posting links to conspiracy sites or unverified 120 year old articles from obscure smalltown newspapers or 'documentaries' from the History Channel as 'evidence' to back up their arguments and they obviously spend hours and hours every week consuming all those things but steadfastly ignoring genuine scientific research on related topics.

Sorry to rant but that mentality drives me crazy as well. Verisimilidude and I should start a support group.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

Robo Reagan posted:

probs because its very easy now to make a crystal clear hd video w/ a big spooky alien ufo floating around that looks real but if it's all grainy and shaky and awful it feels more real because why the gently caress would some drunk slav in the middle of the woods have a hd camera laying around anyway

Yeah, hoaxers actually have a bunch of techniques for degenerating footage to make it shakier and blurrier so it feels more authentic. One of the videos I posted earlier was debunked when the hoaxers got a bit sloppy:

quote:

Effects of the video processing software are clearly seen. The hoaxer used Motion Tile effects with edge mirroring to introduce camera shake into the video. You can see the mirroring effects along the edge of the video.


This footage of a live mammoth is another good example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDoVAM6NdrA
It even has a fascinating bullshit story attached to explain where the video came from!

quote:

After the conclusion of the WW2 Battle of Stalingrad, Nazi Party member and official photographer for the NSDAP, Holger Hildebrand, was captured by the Red Army at the Battle of Stalingrad. He and thousands of other Wehrmacht soldiers were later sent on a death march towards Siberia; this mammoth footage is understood to have been taken during that journey. (Hildebrand is believed to have died a prisoner of war at a Soviet forced labor camp in late 1945. His Granddaughter later came into possession of the footage when his belongings were repatriated to Germany from Russia decades after his death.)
It was argued over for months and months by various interested parties until someone pointed out the footage was from the BBC documentary series Walking with Beasts with a few filters added to it to make it seem like grainy old film footage.

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Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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Verisimilidude posted:

It makes me wonder who makes these ufo videos. Is it the conspiracy theorists themselves, or is it people doing it for fun and conspiracy theorists latch onto them? like what compels someone to make a video that totally proves wooly mammoths still exist and that fact is being kept from the public by the government?

Centre national d'animation et de design in Canada has a course in 3D animation and every year they set their students an assignment to create a viral video. Past hoaxes have included a golden eagle snatching a child in a park and an escaped zoo penguin and they're probably also responsible for this lovely 6 second bigfoot video. No doubt they're responsible for a few dodgy UFO videos as well.


AngrySpork posted:

My favorite part is how the look and description of UFOs changes over time as well. i.e. The craft from the above "sightings" and the craft from sightings today look completely different. It's almost as if it's all fake and the style of UFO's is just a product of the zeitgeist of the era!

There was a wave of UFO sightings in 1896-1897 and some of them were saucer shaped or cigar shaped and made out of metal but some were made out of wood and had propellers or were even powered by guys pedalling bicycles.

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