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RickVoid
Oct 21, 2010

SSNeoman posted:

I honestly had this characterization of Bradford in my head. I knew nothing about this game (or series) when I began playing and I still thought his tutorial mission was loving retarded.

This. It was going just fine until he tells you to approach the guy carrying the grenade. I refused to give the order for a full minute because I knew drat well it was going to get the poor bastard killed.

Bradford and Vahlen are both idiots who deserve all the poo poo they get.

Seriously, bitching about losing out on weapon fragments when we blow up the vastly better equipped aliens on the first frigging mission...

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RickVoid
Oct 21, 2010

FoolyCharged posted:

I'm not saying they couldn't make one, I'm saying that there's no end game unit that can do what they do. A more dapper suit would truly be the fiercest of upgrades though.

Tactical Bowler hats and Umbrella Plasma Rifles.

RickVoid
Oct 21, 2010

Veloxyll posted:

Magical things often happen when Teal'c is around.

The episodes the actor wrote are straight up the best in the series. It was such a good show. The episode where they killed off Doc Fraiser is is probably my favorite. You know it's coming, but the moment you actually see her get shot, through the videographers eyes, it's still a shock.

All that aside, you've got a really good funny:maudlin ratio going on with this thing Speedball. I love what you're doing with the characters, please don't stop.

RickVoid
Oct 21, 2010
My old Sargeant used to say, what you do is, you have a whip-round. Flowers, coffin, the works. You don't let anyone else do it.

RickVoid
Oct 21, 2010

Archenteron posted:

If you're still accepting ideas for more (male) recruits, how about a cross between Naomi and Zinchenko, a Russian covert infiltration specialist: Adamska Shalashaska

He's pretty good.
:ocelot:

RickVoid
Oct 21, 2010
I don't care what gets picked, so long as the Mimi nickname sticks and everyone flat-out refuses to call her by the name we (she) picked. To her unending frustration.

RickVoid
Oct 21, 2010

Braking Gnus posted:



Someone alert Chewbot, I've figured out where Carmen Sandiego's been hiding.

The feel-good lp crossover we've been waiting for.

RickVoid
Oct 21, 2010

Speedball posted:

Thinking that Eva will be our designated grenadier as soon as I can spare the item slots, including utility grenades.

It still hasn't stopped being funny to me that the shy one is in charge of blowing up the most poo poo. Totally didn't plan for her to become a heavy but it works for me.

I'm trying think of a better coping mechanism and failing. Explosions are the best therapy.

RickVoid
Oct 21, 2010
Ooh poo poo. Looks like Bar-Lev's about to come clean. The Commander already knows, of course, but this sure as poo poo ain't gonna help the team any. Weirdo not-Hulk Hogan flipping evil is bad enough, but a trusted team-mate admitting she was a double agent?

RickVoid
Oct 21, 2010

Zack Ater posted:

Gurren Lagann would be good to get everyone pumped up, although they might start pestering the chiefs as to when they'll develop actual giant robots.

This, so hard. That show has one of the most positive messages I've ever seen. If you don't have a stupid grin on your face the whole time you're watching it, you have no soul.

RickVoid
Oct 21, 2010
What, just because Simon's fiance turns out to have been dead ever since she was kidnapped? Or because the fastest way to get yourself killed appears to be becoming Yoko's boyfriend? The whole point is that you keep walking forward, no matter what.

Also the ending has a guy piloting a giant robot, which is itself acting as the pilot for a bigger robot, which is itself piloting another robot that was disguised as the Moon.

It's how Mass Effect 3 should have ended.

RickVoid
Oct 21, 2010

RickVoid posted:

It's how Mass Effect 3 should have ended.

Someone needs to redo this with the english dub, because right now it's too :japan:, but it gets my point across.

Edit: ^^ Beat me to it, huh? Just posted the picture when I saw your link. Oh well. :D

RickVoid
Oct 21, 2010

Speedball posted:

Over in the main Games thread someone linked two lines of Watkins expressing concern with Leroy before Leroy got modded.

Haters gonna hate, right? Link the douche to the Guavamoment LP. This is miles away from Lily Takakumi, pregnant coke-head Mary-Sue exceedingly beautiful huge-breasted tiny asian super scientist with daddy issues.


Why the gently caress did I like that LP again?

Edit: I also forgot that she was situationally bi-sexual and a black-widow. Jesus what a terrible loving character.

RickVoid fucked around with this message at 20:39 on Sep 23, 2014

RickVoid
Oct 21, 2010

TooMuchAbstraction posted:

It's fine if you avoid reading anything contributed by any of the readers (which is like 50% of the text sometimes). I get the impression that early on, GuavaMoment was trying to be polite in recognizing reader contributions and then the whole thing just spiraled out of control. The actual LPer-supplied dialog and metaplot is decent and even funny sometimes.

Bottom line: you may have talent, but your readers should be assumed to be talentless hacks unless they demonstrate otherwise.

Eh... she becomes pretty integral to the plot after the terrible Tokyo mission, and he makes a lot of referrences to things that were mention in the non-Guava written fan-bits, which has the unfortunant effect of legitimizing them.

I've got nothing against Guava, but, well, someone selected to include those posts when the LP got archived.

My main point is that the back and forth we're getting here is non-terrible and actual character growth.

TLDR; Ignore the haters, shine on.

RickVoid
Oct 21, 2010
I'm of the opinion that the bone marrow is the superior choice. Ability to recover from basically anything? Yeah, sign me up for that.

One thing to consider with these though, is that to have them is to change who you are. Not just physically, but mentally. Having these sorts of extra abilities gives you extra options in any given situation, which means you may choose to make a different choice that old you would not have made. In fact, we can already see the effects of something like that.

Speedball posted:

I never meant for Watkins to get thrown into the wood chipper as often as it happens in the LP. But I guess it's like 3X3 Eyes: Guy turns immortal, then suddenly gets an enormous string of bad luck that makes him GLAD to be immortal, like being regularly run over by a bus, melted by acid and so on.

Certainly keeps Watkins in circulation and out of the hospital for my convenience.

Watkins keeps getting the poo poo beat out of him, but he survives thanks to his healing factor.

But, Speedball, if he didn't have that healing factor, would you be putting him in those situations at all, or would you be more conservative with his unit?

Because he's capable of surviving more dangerous situations, he gets put in more dangerous situations. Funny that.

RickVoid
Oct 21, 2010

Speedball posted:

I’m still thinking about all those horrible things the Thin Men said to Cammy… “You’re not really you, the old you is dead.”
If they had tried it on me, it wouldn’t have worked. I’ve come to realize I hate the old me and love the new me. What do you think, Zhang?
Time and tide will change people whether or not they want anyway. Young people’s bodies become old, fat people become thin, weak become strong or vice-versa, and experience changes your soul. The mutations are just quicker, more visible. Still, there are some things that don’t change.

I love that Zhang is the Splinter for this group of mutants. :D

RickVoid
Oct 21, 2010

I dunno what he's on about either. Azure outed himself as a rapist iirc (and tried to defend it) and I have no idea who the other person he's referring to is.

RickVoid
Oct 21, 2010

Chard posted:

I believe that intelligent aliens have/will/do exist, but the odds are that our civilization (or one to follow it) will never even establish contact, let alone meet face-to-tentacle. The universe is vast literally beyond understanding, and even with the most optimistic estimates the Drake equation still has that whole Fermi paradox to deal with - if they're out there, why haven't we met them?

The answer is time.

Our planet is roughly four and half billion years old, with simple animal life emerging only in the last 600 million. Humans as we currently recognize them have existed for about 200,000 years, the exact amount isn't important. What is important is that we've only had the capacity to even recognize an incoming transmission for a few centuries at best. If another civilization was trying to contact our planet, even being off by a thousand years would mean we would never connect. That's an eyeblink in evolutionary time.

On top of that, there's the problem of sending the signal in the first place. Even though space is mostly empty, you'd still need a laser (or equivalent device) capable of sending a sustained burst across light years. Stars can sort of do that but they're loving stars, and remember that Sol is itty-bitty compared to most of what we can see with the naked eye (hint lots of "stars" are actually galaxies). So you're going to need a poo poo-ton of resources, energy, and coordination to even send a signal. If aliens are anything like us that means that a planetary government capable of making that happen is almost inconceivable, but let's say they've figured it out and they've built their laser and they want to send transmissions. Well how do you pick where to start? You can't just send out a spherical pulse, so you target the nearest, most-likely-to-have-life stars, but we're still talking years, at a minimum, before any kind of response could be received. So you're gambling a measurable fraction of your planets resources to build and send a signal, betting against astronomical odds that your target is inhabited and in sync with your civilization's development, and you have to sustain interest for long enough for a reply to be received.



The bottom line is that the existence of aliens is essentially a given, but it will never really matter for humanity.

I take it you've read Pushing Ice? If you haven't, it's a near-future novel by Alastair Reynolds that I think you'd probably enjoy.

I do have to argue that Humanity and Alien cultures will interact with each other, but only through what they and we leave behind.

Something for our descendents to think about.

RickVoid
Oct 21, 2010

Bobbin Threadbare posted:

If you don't think you'll get in, then don't do it for the sake of getting in. Do it for the experience. Do it so that you can say you tried. And if you do actually get in, well, that'll be a nice little bonus.

Absolutely listen to this guy, buddy. You're always going to be competing against other talent, if not the KSBD guy, then somebody else. Just present what you have to offer, and be confident that what you have is your best.

Good luck! You're doing something I've always wanted to do, but suspect I don't have the talent for.

RickVoid
Oct 21, 2010

JT Jag posted:

"So, yeah, aliens are invading. But then again, we promised to cut the budget, and I'm pretty sure my primary opponent will spin this as foreign aid during my re-election campaign, and no one likes that. How about the US gives the same amount of money a month to X-Com as it would take to build a single fighter jet? Sound good?"

Yeah, yeah that's pretty much HumanPolitics.txt. Because the politician has to plan for the world not ending, and if the world does not end, then he has to make sure he's not doing something that won't get him re-elected. Because, at the end of the day, that's all he's there for.

RickVoid
Oct 21, 2010

Deadmeat5150 posted:

I want to read it now.

Ghostwoods posted:

That sounds strangely awesome...

What those guys said.

RickVoid
Oct 21, 2010

Speedball posted:

Had nightmares about rejection letters all night, set off a mid-night panic attack, stressed during the entire 10-hour workday today. Turns out that the actual confirmation of who made it in got delayed a week too so I get to look forward to this happening to me sometime soon AGAIN. gently caress. Actual rejection would hurt less than this, it'd just be one more for the pile and I'd move on.

May attempt to update X-COM anyway just to get my mind off this planet and onto theirs.

I once had a dream that I was back at the office after some time away on vacation. Everyone was glad to see me, asking how I was, but they seemed fuzzy and confused on the details about why I had been gone. I woke up feeling excited to go back and see everyone soon now that my time away was over.

Then I remembered they'd fired me three months earlier. :(:hf::(

Can't say much more than that I've been there and I encourage to find something else to do to take your mind off things; even something not LP related.

RickVoid
Oct 21, 2010

chiasaur11 posted:

I managed to get four people from my starting ten through one time. But the standout was the commander. Lyudmila Andianov.

She was in the first position in the Skyranger, and somehow survived every mission leading from the front, including the sectoid terror mission that wiped out most of the team and the only semi-intelligent civilian in the history of X-Com. Poor bastard figured out the Skyranger should be safe at the exact same time as a mind controlled rookie went on a shooting spree.

The standout, though, was the first Chryssalid terror mission. Tank got killed, so she walked out in her shiny new flight suit. Well, someone fired off a heavy plasma round.

It bent around her to insta-kill one of the sergeants. She got shot at least two or three more times in the mission, including several injuries bad enough to need medical attention, but she managed to survive, and when the only other soldier with a flight suit died (after one hit, because everyone else's armor was apparently made of tinfoil) she cleared the rest of the map solo.

The other three... well, one was a competent psychic. The others were a teamkiller and the guy who spent the entire sectoid terror mission wetting himself and crying while hiding in a residential building. Not quite as likely to appear on the recruitment brochures.

X-Com stories are really the best stories. I think everyone has one about the time some rookie shot through two windows to kill the last alien and save the day. And then only survived the next mission because after panicking and killing everyone else he was on the skyranger when you aborted.

RickVoid
Oct 21, 2010

Stephen9001 posted:

The mod, and I think he decided not to do the lp as he talked about it in the sandcastle or something (I don't remember that well) and they didn't like it.

Well yeah. It's the sandcastle and it was a mod about magical girls.

Not that people shouldn't use the sandcastle for technical poo poo, but there's some pretty poo poo opinions in there.

RickVoid
Oct 21, 2010

Chard posted:

This would be completely ineffective until the aliens unlock the Hot Pink Armor technology

"Hey guys, Rookie Hugh Mann reporting in. Just another human, fightin' alongside my other, human, friends. Yep, we're all human here, aren't we?"

"HE'S NOT WEARING THE PINK GUYS! PUT HIM DOWN!!!"

"Try to take him alive, if possible. I would like to take him apart."

":gonk:"

RickVoid
Oct 21, 2010
Not quite what you described, but...

That's X-Com posted:

So I'm two months into this campaign and I'm pretty sure I'm hosed. I lost 3/5ths of my A squad last night. Not because I failed a mission, oh no. One of the civilians we rescued was a disguised Ethereal, and subverted my Support. When we got back to the base I was in the middle of sorting through stuff in the grey market when there was an explosion that rocked the screen and threw me out of the menu. I panned towards the source of the sound and found my barracks covered in fire, smoke, and blood. The Support blew himself and my 115 Aim Sniper up. One of my Assaults is critically injured and even if she survives I don't have the resources to MEC her right now. Then, as soon as I'd sorted that out the Heavy got notification that his family was wiped out in a retaliatory strike in response to the last mission. It doesn't even give you the option to intercept, I guess they just shoot them from orbit? Anyway, before I could take him off active duty and assign him to the base shrink his mental health bottomed out and he blew his brains out all over the mess hall. My other Assault is hovering just over suicidal now, and the soldiers I was planning to use for an eventual B-team are all Rookies and also took a bunch of morale penalties from this poo poo-show.

I may just have to start shooting all civilians on sight from now on, that's an awful mechanic. Maybe when I unlock psy-ops I'll be able to detect this poo poo before it happens? This series got loving dark, man. :smithicide:

RickVoid
Oct 21, 2010
*Walks into thread*

This is why we can't have nice things.

Though I did appreciate watching the idiot arguing for homogenaity melt down and out himself as a literal fascist bigot. That was fun.

Everyone else has pretty much said anything I would, but to tie it all together different groups of humans in competition for resources is what has always been the driver for human evolution, technological, and social advancement. If you took away mankinds predeliction to separate the world into us, them, and those fuckers (which you can't, but for argument's sake) man would become stagnant, innovation and advancement would stop, and species that don't change to adapt to new situations die.

It really is our differences that make us stronger.

RickVoid
Oct 21, 2010

ViggyNash posted:

"Social Entropy" is what I call it. Too much entropy, and we're trying to blow each other up. Not enough and the world gets boring as gently caress because nothing changes. In that analogy, anarchy would be very high entropy, utopia would be very low entropy. Yes, that does imply that I think utopia is a bad thing.

Fortunately we're super good at balancing that poo poo out. One group gets out of control, another is there to shut them down. Of course, that goes both ways: If we solved all of the world's problems by the end of the day, we'd have created a bunch more by the time the sun came back up.

Speedball posted:

Far from a hundred percent, but since the hernia got repaired I no longer feel like I'm being constantly kicked in the balls.
As for what the next gimmick Exalt run will entail... Not sure.

Shiv-Squad.
Terminator references.
Final Destination.

RickVoid
Oct 21, 2010

Bobbin Threadbare posted:

It's not even that simple. Every solution is someone else's problem.

Yeah, that. That right there. You can't solve everything because the implementation of a solution will inevitably gently caress something up, somewhere, for someone.

TooMuchAbstraction posted:

Not a bad term for it. But if you're in an actual proper utopia (i.e. not a dystopia masquerading as a utopia as so many do), would you want change? Utopias are supposed to be perfect, right?

That's the thing though, the Utopia literally cannot exist because man is a flawed creature that is not satisfied unless he and his have more of [insert scarcity here] than those fuckers. For a Utopia to function everyone has to have and be satisfied with their "fair share". Man doesn't do that, so inevitably someone will flip the table and take his neighbors share and then how do you respond to that? An authority has to be created to enforce the equality. And who runs that authority?

Man. The flawed creature that is only happy when he's getting ahead of someone else in some manner or form. Bam, corruption. Bam, disparity. Bam, dystopia.

But there will always be someone out there who says things like :gonk: "But it could work. With the right people in charge. Good people. There has to be some way to do it, we just have to try harder!" :gonk: because they need to believe that the world isn't an awful, terrible place where people do awful things to each other everyday not because they are just bad people but because they are people and that poo poo is just built right in. And we need people who believe such things because they are the collective better nature of mankind and it's their job to endlessly drag us out of the abyss of our darker impulses.

Man I hope that makes sense to someone because it's the closest I've ever come to actually articulating any of that.

RickVoid
Oct 21, 2010

Annointed posted:

So what you're saying is:

- Mankind doesn't just want to better themselves, it's to be better/have better than the other
- Utopia banks on the idea of everyone being happy
- Because mankind can only be happy at the expense of others, the utopia idea that cater to mankind is unattainable
- Those who say it is possible with the right mindset/people are denying the variable nature of mankind of wanting different things, at the expense of others
- However these people who attempt to attain Utopia are necessary because they help humanity as a whole from our darker impulses

If I'm right I guess it got what you're talking about. It's kind of like how Angels in SMT think that helping humanity out is by fundamentally changing what is a human mentally, destroying entire point of saving humanity. Because at that point you're not catering to people, you're catering to another species.

Yes. Yes yes yes yes.

RickVoid
Oct 21, 2010

silentsnack posted:

Does the current human society deserve to exist exactly as-is, in perpetuum? Let's ask the all-knowing internet! Wait, what's with all these ads about retirement savings?

Humanity deserves to exist as much as anything else does. What we do or do not do doesn't make any difference in that regard.

RickVoid
Oct 21, 2010

Ephemeron posted:

Yeah, but the whole 'it's just human nature, what are you gonna do?' argument loses a lot of its strength when you gain access to genetic/psionic/cybernetic manipulation of said nature.

I will say that I feel that the ability to psychically reach out and actually feel the emotions and pain of those around us would do so very, very much to better mankind as a whole.

And now we've moved back into the realm of Trans-humanism and nature vs nurture arguments. Excellent. No time for a big effort post now though.

RickVoid
Oct 21, 2010

inflatablefish posted:

How about a mission with the one renegade SHIV that calls itself Johnny Five?

Johnny "Five" Aces

RickVoid
Oct 21, 2010
Well that's one way to spice up your game; Make up a reason for why you can't use the A-Team.

Congratulations to the Brides.

RickVoid
Oct 21, 2010

DmitriX posted:

What is it with people using that word? Why would you assume my preferred economic system so out-of-hand?(it's true communism by the way)

Hahahaha

Communist governments are poorly disguised fascist regimes, hope this helps.

RickVoid
Oct 21, 2010
Cam is officially a Jedi, and Allen is his dead Jedi Master.

Also the aliens are running from something even worse than they are and are trying to find a race strong enough to defeat them is my favorite X-Com interpretation. .

RickVoid
Oct 21, 2010

Speedball posted:

Almost over. This has been a terrible weekend. I've been guarding an empty parking lot in the middle of a hot tropical storm for three days.

But the neat things you guys said kept me going. Thanks. I love entertaining folks.

Security work, eh? I did that for a bunch of years. Takes a certain type of person, really. I always liked the solitude. I've got some good memories from that job; sitting in a prefab shelter, at 3 am, in the middle of summer thunderstorm, playing Morrowind for the first time on my laptop because it's a Sunday morning on a holiday weekend and no one is going to be coming in, to check on me or drop off a trailer or what have you.

But yeah, if you've just been stuck in a car or something that can be pretty frigging awful. At least it's warm, I've been stuck in a car, in a parking lot, in the dead of winter, across the street from a football stadium before, during, and after a game. Yuck.

RickVoid
Oct 21, 2010
So some parts of that article seemed kind of overblown (They monitor whether their workers are working and require them to punch out and in for lunch? That's most American companies, nothing ridiculous there.), but there were some things that were pretty nutso (Reassigning developers to security, cleaning, or factory work? I suppose that's better than just straight up poo poo-canning them, but still.). Facebook monitoring is starting to become common here in the States as well (I'm pretty shocked that we are allowed to be facebook friends with our managers at my call center, the last place I worked we couldn't.), and I'm not sure I get the "no personal e-mail" thing. I suppose they mean in-office e-mail? They have to, because I can't imagine any of these guys can't just set up an anonymous gmail or yahoo account. The former Kojima office not having internet access is kind of funny in a "wow, they must really hate that guy and his people now that he's left" kind of way, but again, my work internet access is extremely limited and monitored. I can't even use google.

That all said, Konami's other practices seem pretty scummy and shady, and I wasn't really planning to play the latest MGS game anyway (I haven't palyed any since 4). So I guess I'm done with them now. Eh.

RickVoid
Oct 21, 2010

Speedball posted:

By the way, thanks for always understanding, guys.

I don't want you to think I use you like this:



Took me a second to get who that is. That's pretty good.

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RickVoid
Oct 21, 2010

Stephen9001 posted:

And there's a problem with being popular, if you do something other than what was popular, people are likely to ask "we want you to do what you used to do!" and that sort of thing. I doubt Speedball will have that problem, since Lp's are usually varied due to their nature, and you can usually only Lp something once, and if you tried to Lp it again people would be like "what are you doing?". Of course, some games, like CIV this isn't a problem due to being able to play different nations and such, but you get the idea. Point is, not many people are going to be like "I loved you LP, I want to do the exact same Lp again". Essentially, with Lp's changing style a bit between Lp's is not likely to get people begging for the old style, or whatever.

Course, if Speedball stops doing Lp's in order to focus on his comic and stuff, I imagine some people would complain then (and some would want to complain but be too polite to, I confess I would be one of them), but he would be well within his rights to do that if he wanted.

:goonsay:

Does anyone have a good link for the hiimdaisy stuff? Tried to find it a while back, but didn't have much luck. Gigidigi and Cucumber Quest are pretty great, if anyone here hasn't read that comic. Need to catch up on that, I've put it down for about a year now.

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