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Coffee And Pie posted:Sell it as uplifting. After a US soldier dies, his family gets a visit from his best friend--who might not be what he seems! Bonus points if you can not-so-subtly imply he's an angel. "Well he's kind of Biblical. Old Testament."
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It's interesting and probably entirely unique to see a kind of genre collision pastiche that combines dull, clean tv-movie melodrama with over-the-top 80s cyberpunk action and while it is mostly played for laughs it can never seem to decide just how subtle it wants to be. It's very dialogue-heavy and, for a good portion of its running time, deliberately mundane. It's like A History of Violence, but it feels more muddled and less well constructed. It's all right though. It has a nice energy to it and the cast all do great work. Dan Stevens, especially, is pitch perfect. The style, though, feels like it isn't fully realised and more like an experiment to see if they could replicate the things they're lampooning and it doesn't always work. It's fine. Give it a look if you fancy it. You're Next works a lot better. I've seen The Guest compared to Killer Joe, but it really isn't anywhere near as outrageous or savage. Nor would I agree that it's "the reality" of Captain America. I'd say it is more like the mundane side of Universal Soldier.
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Dec 30, 2014 17:26
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But they're both blond!!!
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Dec 30, 2014 17:52
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Coffee And Pie posted:Sell it as uplifting. After a US soldier dies, his family gets a visit from his best friend--who might not be what he seems! Bonus points if you can not-so-subtly imply he's an angel. This is perfect.
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Watched this last night and holy poo poo was it incredible. I can't really add anything that hasn't already been said. Just holy poo poo was this a loving fantastic film.
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I loved the little nods to You're Next. The animal masks at the Halloween party and the defense contractor Lance Reddick works for is KPG, the same company that the family's father worked for in You're Next.
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Tomahawk posted:I loved the little nods to You're Next. The animal masks at the Halloween party and the defense contractor Lance Reddick works for is KPG, the same company that the family's father worked for in You're Next. Adam Wingard's next work appears to be an adaptation of Robert (the Walking Dead) Kirkman's newest comic, the Outcast. Looks like he's just doing the pilot but it's a horror book so I expect it to be pretty solid based on Wingard's resume to date. And it's set to air on Cinemax, home of the excellent Banshee and Strike Back, both shows that pull no punches. I'm wondering how many references to his other works will make their way into the pilot.
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Great entertaining movie. I loved how consistantly they portrayed the guest as a charming good guy with a "code" that he follows that mocks the whole tough guy antihero hollywood bullshit even after he brutally murders several people but hes actually just a brainwashed killer that has no control over his own actions (the opposite of the usual anti hero) Hes a super soldier that gets super ptsd and murders everthing, hes a victim and the hero in the story according to the camera because he nevers gets portrayed as the "bad guy" for longer than 5 seconds but its real frentic and he keeps switching between hero,victim and bad guy but then the boy actually turns out the be the real main character in the end because hes the only one with an actual character arc and the guest just doesnt matter.
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Tomahawk posted:I loved the little nods to You're Next. The animal masks at the Halloween party and the defense contractor Lance Reddick works for is KPG, the same company that the family's father worked for in You're Next. I watched VHS2 this weekend and KPG is the company that makes the cybernetic eye camera in Wingard's short, too
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Jan 5, 2015 19:17
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Has anyone listened to the commentary on the BR yet?
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I'm watching this right now but when the title says what if Captain America was a total dick, it isn't kidding. The guy has the look of Evans' Cap and the all American demeanor down pat. Jeez. It's cool. EDIT: poo poo, that escalated to gently caress. EDIT 2: Oh gently caress, these guys made You're Next, which was also awesome. Gatts fucked around with this message at 19:03 on Jan 11, 2015 |
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Jan 11, 2015 18:06
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It may have just been my lovely hearing, but was there something going on with Stevens' character occasionally being unintelligible to tip us off that something was wrong? It seemed like there were 2-3 instances where he'd just say something undecipherable and characters would give him a short look and pause before dismissing it.
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Der Luftwaffle posted:It may have just been my lovely hearing, but was there something going on with Stevens' character occasionally being unintelligible to tip us off that something was wrong? It seemed like there were 2-3 instances where he'd just say something undecipherable and characters would give him a short look and pause before dismissing it. It was usually something really vicious when I could hear it.
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I'm kind of wishing I could get a sequel where Sharni Vinson's character from Youre Next faces off with David. Two slasher monsters facing off. Kind of like Freddy vs Jason but with this staff behind it.
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Gatts posted:I'm kind of wishing I could get a sequel where Sharni Vinson's character from Youre Next faces off with David. Two slasher monsters facing off. Kind of like Freddy vs Jason but with this staff behind it. This was exactly what I thought towards the end so it's kind of uncanny that someone posted that exact thought on the day I watched the movie. Great movie. Actor who played the dad seemed pretty awkward but I didn't mind anyone else and Dan Stevens was great.
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The Vosgian Beast posted:This was exactly what I thought towards the end so it's kind of uncanny that someone posted that exact thought on the day I watched the movie. Yeah. This was a good movie. The actor who played Dad has been in a lot of films as a sort of nervous jittery supporting character. From SavING Private Ryan, Seven and a ton of stuff.
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Jan 13, 2015 00:31
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"Jittery uncomfortable dude" is kind of his thing.
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Jan 13, 2015 00:44
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Oh my god, I never watched the show "Friends" and was only vaguely aware of the cast, so I swear that for years I thought Leland Orser was David Schwimmer. Every time I've seen him in a movie I've mentally referred to him as "that guy from Friends". They don't even look that much alike.
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King Vidiot posted:Oh my god, I never watched the show "Friends" and was only vaguely aware of the cast, so I swear that for years I thought Leland Orser was David Schwimmer. Every time I've seen him in a movie I've mentally referred to him as "that guy from Friends". Also Leland is like half a foot shorter.
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Jan 13, 2015 01:09
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I wish I could say I never watched that show
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I'm in love with the new Dan Stevens. I also want to watch this movie again as soon as possible. That's pretty rare for me. Also, count the bar scene with 'The Magician' (?) playing over as what grabbed me and made me realise this movie is something special. Where can I find more music like the soundtrack?
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Gatts posted:I'm kind of wishing I could get a sequel where Sharni Vinson's character from Youre Next faces off with David. Two slasher monsters facing off. Kind of like Freddy vs Jason but with this staff behind it. The bit where the mercs storm the house and David murders them pretty much instantly reminded me of Erin dealing with her home invaders. She did not have an assault rifle so it took her a little more effort but she outclassed her enemies by a similar degree.
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Jan 13, 2015 11:25
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Mind not spoiling You're Next in here? There's no warning at all.
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Octy posted:I'm in love with the new Dan Stevens. I also want to watch this movie again as soon as possible. That's pretty rare for me. buy the hotline miami soundtrack on steam (or play the game) or search for perturbator on youtube and listen to all the albums its my favorite retrowave(call it waht you want) act
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Shageletic posted:Mind not spoiling You're Next in here? There's no warning at all. What do you want to know? Wikipedia sums it up pretty well.
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Sounds like Shag's asking people not to spoil that movie in the thread for this movie.
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What's in a word? drat, it looks like the contest to win the BluRay/Shot Glasses/Dan Stevens' watch from the movie ended today.
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Octy posted:I'm in love with the new Dan Stevens. I also want to watch this movie again as soon as possible. That's pretty rare for me. There is a shitton on this YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/LuigiDonatello
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Popelmon posted:There is a shitton on this YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/LuigiDonatello Aw man, cheeesy 80s music videos. My second favourite thing.
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This was pretty disappointing. It's obnoxiously 'ironic'. As other people have said the first two thirds of the movie are really interesting, and actually seem like they are building towards saying something on grief and idolization (with super slick visuals and a nice soundtrack). Then SURPRISE! He's a super soldier and everyone's dead! Ain't you startled?! John Carpenter never explained where the thing came from so I can get away with it too! I hate this loving terrible grindhouse mentality of 'homage' that basically absolves talented people from making actual meaningful things, or certain talented people believe absolves them. The loving halloween haunted house finale, jesus christ. But I can get away with recycling cliched jump scares because Daniels from the Wire is grumpy with it so its meta and I also referenced it back in act two of the script!!! The guy can frame a shot. The guy can direct action really well. Why could he not earnestly follow through on the initial conceit he set up so well? Drive has been mentioned before itt, but it's like Drive if Refn decided he didn't want to say anything at all on concepts of heroism and masculinity and made the last twenty minutes a car chase where the Driver pulls a fully sick drift at the end and runs over Ron Perlman, because of Tango and Cash.
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On the other hand I think The Guest is a pretty cool guy. Eh kills families and doesn't afraid of anything.
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Eau de MacGowan posted:it's like Drive if Refn decided he didn't want to say anything at all on concepts of heroism and masculinity and made the last twenty minutes a car chase where the Driver pulls a fully sick drift at the end and runs over Ron Perlman, because of Tango and Cash. I agree. The Guest owns.
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I think the point about super soldier subplot coming out of nowhere is well-taken though. Up to that point you could plausibly see him being anything from a pleasant but misunderstood house guest to a serial killer. It's pretty generic, and I was just like "huh" when he turned out to be a superhuman person.
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Vegetable posted:I think the point about super soldier subplot coming out of nowhere is well-taken though. Up to that point you could plausibly see him being anything from a pleasant but misunderstood house guest to a serial killer. It's pretty generic, and I was just like "huh" when he turned out to be a superhuman person. How is that generic? It's a ridiculous, fun plot twist in a ridiculous, fun movie? That it doesn't stop dead for a long treatise on the subject of heroism and masculinity by way of a slow zoom into Ryan Gosling's face is a feature, not a bug.
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flashy_mcflash posted:How is that generic? It's a ridiculous, fun plot twist in a ridiculous, fun movie? That it doesn't stop dead for a long treatise on the subject of heroism and masculinity by way of a slow zoom into Ryan Gosling's face is a feature, not a bug. That's not to say I dislike this movie at all. It's absolutely my #1 of 2014. It's fun as heck. I just wonder if there's a better way they could have set the superhuman thing up.
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flashy_mcflash posted:How is that generic? It's a ridiculous, fun plot twist in a ridiculous, fun movie? That it doesn't stop dead for a long treatise on the subject of heroism and masculinity by way of a slow zoom into Ryan Gosling's face is a feature, not a bug. The first two-thirds of the movie aren't wacky jason voorhes hijinks though. It's a complete tonal shift without either apparent point or exposition. The very fact that the last second of this movie is "What the gently caress?" is a blatant "HAHA YOU THOUGHT I WAS SERIOUS" millenial cowardice. He just kills everyone because 'it's his programming'.
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The dude maliciously murders more than one person in the first half an hour, how is it a tonal shift? They also constantly hint that he's dangerous/unstable.
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There's a brooding menace to it all, then he's throwing grenades into a diner with a big goofy grin and the two kids are getting trapped in a spooky maze. The last third is meta as hell, the first two thirds hint at something original.
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Penpal posted:You are all racists. He is not, not-Nick Fury. He's motherfucking Agent Broyles. This entire movie takes place in the red-Fringe universe. Umm, I think you're actually thinking of Lieutenant Daniels. Just watched this movie, really enjoyed it as well - especially the amazing soundtrack.
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