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Samovar
Jun 4, 2011

I'm 😤 not a 🦸🏻‍♂️hero...🧜🏻



Night10194 posted:

Gaming writing tends to be attached to the idea that making your protagonist a horrible rear end in a top hat, often for very little reason, makes him appear to be cool, tough, and 'badass'. Rather than making him look like a petulant little poo poo.

I remember somebody having to point this out to the makers of the game Journey to the West, where they thought they could convey the main character as being a badass for kicking a slave out of a crashing aircraft.

Although, to be honest, Monkey from the ORIGINAL Journey to the West probably would have done that.

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bman in 2288
Apr 21, 2010
Just watched the video. Holy poo poo, what the hell did Ubisoft do to the Bean? It looks like a lovely doughnut. I mean, you guys already spoke about it, but if I didn't recognize the floor or the plaza, I wouldn't have known that's where they were supposed to be. I mean, I'm trying to wait and see if there's something rather fun about this game, but if they can't do the Bean right, then my expectations have now been officially lowered.

Maekrix Waere
Jul 10, 2010

anilEhilated posted:

Suddenly I'm reminded of that broadcast from Blood Dragon warning enemies of a shipment of faulty grenades that don't explode unless you yell "Grenade out!". Followed by a broadcast apologizing for any casualties caused by the previous broadcast.
Can't seem to find it on video though.

This one?

Blue Ghost
Dec 12, 2012

Blastinus posted:

Apparently it's okay to go all vigilante on small-time criminals and take a grenade launcher to half a dozen security guards, but killing a guy who just stabbed someone right in front of you? Naw, that'd attract too much heat.

You don't hunt bears for food you hunt deer, there are more of them and they are less likely to disembowel you. I think the same principle applies here.

chiasaur11
Oct 22, 2012



Blue Ghost posted:

You don't hunt bears for food you hunt deer, there are more of them and they are less likely to disembowel you. I think the same principle applies here.

What does it say about Aiden that he'd be more relatable and charming if he ate people?

Giovanni_Sinclair
Apr 25, 2009

It was on this day that his greatest enemy defeated, the true lord of darkness arose. His name? MARIO.

bman in 2288 posted:

Just watched the video. Holy poo poo, what the hell did Ubisoft do to the Bean? It looks like a lovely doughnut. I mean, you guys already spoke about it, but if I didn't recognize the floor or the plaza, I wouldn't have known that's where they were supposed to be. I mean, I'm trying to wait and see if there's something rather fun about this game, but if they can't do the Bean right, then my expectations have now been officially lowered.

Yeah, if they can't do the bean right then I fear for the rest of the city in this game.

J.theYellow
May 7, 2003
Slippery Tilde
Beyond Good & Evil and Rayman have one thing in common: they're both by Michel Ancel, who had his own studio within Ubisoft in Montpellier, France. As of this year, he's started a new indie studio called Wild Sheep, which has a PS4-exclusive title for Sony coming soon, called WiLD.

Michel Ancel posted:

Every time you play you’ll discover new things, even in the same place as before. But… the best feature came from our prototyping phase when we started playing as wolves, horses, sheep and… even trout! So we decided that in WiLD every creature should be playable, even the giant and dangerous ones!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVcv4lihhUQ

Wash_Hogs was made internally at Ubisoft Montreal by some dudes who had worked on other projects in and around Montreal, such as Army of Two for EA.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



I think you hit it right on the head when you said that the player character really wants to be Batman. He feels like a low-rent, less heroic Batman.

Nalesh
Jun 9, 2010

What did the grandma say to the frog?

Something racist, probably.

FlamingLiberal posted:

I think you hit it right on the head when you said that the player character really wants to be Batman. He feels like a low-rent, less heroic Batman.

Badman.

Kurieg
Jul 19, 2012

RIP Lutri: 5/19/20-4/2/20
:blizz::gamefreak:

You don't look like a bad man.

Manic_Misanthrope
Jul 1, 2010


I prefered Vice City mostly because I hate territory control aspects in my sandbox games where I have to go and defend my territory every so often, although in all other aspects SA has it pretty beat. Does that make me racist?

Poil
Mar 17, 2007

The territory part was really bad because you had to spend so long grinding more of it, and that they turned part of it into a freaking escort quest with a moronic npc who absolutely loved running into walls or into traffic forcing you to replay it over and over. Anyone who ever claims that GTA games doesn't make you aggressive is wrong. :argh:

Dr. Buttass
Aug 12, 2013

AWFUL SOMETHING
You know what I'm like, almost willing to accept the bandanna. He's a crime guy. He's doing crime. Anything he can do to keep people from connecting him to the crime he does is a good idea. It just falls apart when you combine it with the rest of the "I wish I was Batman" package.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

I think one of the reasons that it's so easy to evade the cops is that no matter what people report, they just search for a "young black male, early 20s."

C.M. Kruger
Oct 28, 2013
The police description of the vigilante is a URL that leads to a Google image search for "cyberpunk clothes."

ZenVulgarity
Oct 9, 2012

I made the hat by transforming my zen

You know I liked the idea I had of this game being a techno wizard and using that to solve your problems


But it's actually a bad shooter


Yeeesh

The Casualty
Sep 29, 2006
Security Clearance: Pop Secret


Whiny baby
Yeah, I really liked the idea of this game back when it was supposed to be "Neo-cyberpunk Assassin's Creed" instead of "Laryngitis-induced fever dream of a teenage computer nerd." It's just so... unseasoned, immature, and unimaginative. They had an opportunity to make something unique and they ended up with the bad parts of AC, Saint's Row, and Just Cause, but none of the positive aspects. Characters I don't like, gameplay mechanics and plot that don't make sense, unfun mini-games, floaty physics... it's as if they ceded control of the project to Michael Bay halfway through development.

CrashCat
Jan 10, 2003

another shit post


ZenVulgarity posted:

You know I liked the idea I had of this game being a techno wizard and using that to solve your problems
You can sort of do that... in prearranged locations... by pushing your magic hack button in a specific order. :(

Mr. Soop
Feb 18, 2011

Bonsai Guy
I'm still getting over "The Healer". I mean, what the gently caress? Is that some very poorly written symbolism about how love from his nephew will somehow heal Aiden of his wrongdoings or some dumb poo poo like that? I wouldn't put it past this game, I mean. That's just so weirdly generic and effortless in trying to create aspects of an in-game universe otherwise if that's what they were mainly going for.

Pompitous
Nov 4, 2009

Space Cowboy

Mr. Soop posted:

I'm still getting over "The Healer". I mean, what the gently caress? Is that some very poorly written symbolism about how love from his nephew will somehow heal Aiden of his wrongdoings or some dumb poo poo like that? I wouldn't put it past this game, I mean. That's just so weirdly generic and effortless in trying to create aspects of an in-game universe otherwise if that's what they were mainly going for.

Symbolism? Let's see how our focus group reacts. As a bunch of twelve year old video game consumers, do you feel your parents will buy this game for you if the main character is sympathetic to 12 year olds? Oh you do? FRIENDLY UNCLE GUYS! Cut aaaaaand, print!

ZenVulgarity
Oct 9, 2012

I made the hat by transforming my zen

CrashCat posted:

You can sort of do that... in prearranged locations... by pushing your magic hack button in a specific order. :(

What a waste.

Nalesh
Jun 9, 2010

What did the grandma say to the frog?

Something racist, probably.
So the first dlc's teaser just got released, which has a protagonist that actually seems likeable, are you gonna play that too? :v:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4K0LdVsokY

Forgall
Oct 16, 2012

by Azathoth

Nalesh posted:

So the first dlc's teaser just got released, which has a protagonist that actually seems likeable, are you gonna play that too? :v:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4K0LdVsokY
I already like the little toy car and wonder what adventures it will get up to.

CrashCat
Jan 10, 2003

another shit post


ZenVulgarity posted:

What a waste.
I like the hack camera chain puzzles because they're the first time I've seen them done. But you can beat the entire game without even knowing they exist (there are some forced chain sequences, but they don't really have any puzzle to figure out). Other than improving AC's hide and seek mode those are the only two innovations I can really think of, which is disappointing since many players will never see them. And the hide and seek was quickly "solved" due to human tendency to follow the goddamn GPS path and poor effort at making invasions undetectable.

BravestOfTheLamps
Oct 12, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Lipstick Apathy

Nalesh posted:

So the first dlc's teaser just got released, which has a protagonist that actually seems likeable, are you gonna play that too? :v:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4K0LdVsokY

The protagonist could be Ian Paisley's corpse and he would still seem likeable next to Badman.

JossiRossi
Jul 28, 2008

A little EQ, a touch of reverb, slap on some compression and there. That'll get your dickbutt jiggling.

CrashCat posted:

I like the hack camera chain puzzles because they're the first time I've seen them done.

There is a very similar mechanic in a game I played a while back. I think it was Hydrophobia but I played a bunch of bad sci-fi games in a row so some blur together.

Great Joe
Aug 13, 2008

Yeah, now that you mention it, Hydrophobia did the whole "camera see, camera hack" thing. I think you just cycled through camera feeds instead of going from camera to camera, though.

CrashCat
Jan 10, 2003

another shit post


Great Joe posted:

Yeah, now that you mention it, Hydrophobia did the whole "camera see, camera hack" thing. I think you just cycled through camera feeds instead of going from camera to camera, though.
Yet another game I heard was good but I ended up never getting around to try. I'll have to go back and see if I grabbed it on a sale or something, my memory is pretty terrible.

Great Joe
Aug 13, 2008

I saw this image and thought of this thread.

cant cook creole bream
Aug 15, 2011
I think Fahrenheit is better for weather
God drat it. That is terrible!

ArchetypeBlue
Jul 9, 2012

ASSHOLE.
Are you loving kidding me?

E: I'm so glad I retained an ounce of skepticism and didn't buy this piece of poo poo game, goddamn.

ArchetypeBlue fucked around with this message at 13:45 on Sep 17, 2014

Pyroi
Aug 17, 2013

gay elf noises
If you're going to let us hack road signs, make it so that they say things like, "I KNOW WHAT YOU DID CARL." and make that make cars swerve wildly. You know, to make it even EASIER to escape from the cops.

That's just...bad.

Hirayuki
Mar 28, 2010


My favorite real-life example is SPEED LIMIT 100 MPH GO GO GO. That would work well here, too.

Nalesh
Jun 9, 2010

What did the grandma say to the frog?

Something racist, probably.

Pyroi posted:

If you're going to let us hack road signs, make it so that they say things like, "I KNOW WHAT YOU DID CARL." and make that make cars swerve wildly. You know, to make it even EASIER to escape from the cops.

That's just...bad.

Or just let us write whatever the gently caress we want.

Nuramor
Dec 13, 2012

Most Amewsing Prinny Ever!
When I first heard of this feature, I thought this is something an invader was supposed to be able to do. You know, changing your world to annoy the player.

Seraphic Neoman
Jul 19, 2011


Eh, this isn't so bad. It's not part of the game proper it's just a dumb easter egg of sorts. The billboards are supposed to be used for letting tablet users send messages to the player, but I think that idea was DOA. Even if this was a good game, this is just such a meaningless side feature that it's nothing even worth mentioning.

Now that dialogue with Clara? That's where the game begins to show how far its iceburg of bad writing really goes.

aerion111
Nov 29, 2011

Prodigy of Curiosity.
Master of Jacks.
Apprentice of Masks.
And, when fighting the forces of darkness, always remember: "Armor of Darkness, Weapon of Light"

SSNeoman posted:

Eh, this isn't so bad. It's not part of the game proper it's just a dumb easter egg of sorts. The billboards are supposed to be used for letting tablet users send messages to the player, but I think that idea was DOA. Even if this was a good game, this is just such a meaningless side feature that it's nothing even worth mentioning.

Speaking of tablet-to-console/PC connections, the mobile way to mess with people is actually moderately fun (certainly more fun than playing yet another cookie-clicker clone, or some badly-translated CYOA) and I'd want to see someone play on the other side to see how it was for the PC users.
I at least ASSUME they didn't 'fake' the players, since some of them rage-quit mid-game and other human behaviors (plus, there was the lengthy match-making, of course)

To summarize, you basically control a helicopter that can hack things within a certain distance (which, unlike on the PC/Console, doesn't immediately trigger them; They're essentially traps that go off when appropriate), and summon different types of cops.
The driver has to drive through checkpoints within a certain point, and the mobile-player has to prevent them from doing so.
Heck, the driver can get out and shoot down the chopper if they want, in which case there's a moderate respawn time.

I'd recommend it, if it wasn't impossible to get any matches nowadays (and the app is generally clunky to use too)
It's certainly been more fun, to me anyway, than the actual game.

CrashCat
Jan 10, 2003

another shit post


Also back when you COULD get a mobile challenge, it was laggy and often would drop one or the other end altogether. The ideal way to try it now is probably having someone on the couch next to you log in vs you, since you can challenge a 'friend' to an unranked match. I think you can even make your own courses if you play it that way.

I got so annoyed with the lags and disconnects back when I tried it that I had honestly forgot it existed til I read your post.

The Shame Boy
Jan 27, 2014

Dead weight, just like this post.



aerion111 posted:

Speaking of tablet-to-console/PC connections, the mobile way to mess with people is actually moderately fun (certainly more fun than playing yet another cookie-clicker clone, or some badly-translated CYOA) and I'd want to see someone play on the other side to see how it was for the PC users.
I at least ASSUME they didn't 'fake' the players, since some of them rage-quit mid-game and other human behaviors (plus, there was the lengthy match-making, of course)

To summarize, you basically control a helicopter that can hack things within a certain distance (which, unlike on the PC/Console, doesn't immediately trigger them; They're essentially traps that go off when appropriate), and summon different types of cops.
The driver has to drive through checkpoints within a certain point, and the mobile-player has to prevent them from doing so.
Heck, the driver can get out and shoot down the chopper if they want, in which case there's a moderate respawn time.

I'd recommend it, if it wasn't impossible to get any matches nowadays (and the app is generally clunky to use too)
It's certainly been more fun, to me anyway, than the actual game.

That makes a bit of sense because the screenshots while you're at the loading screen for the CTOS race (where a console player races through checkpoints while a mobile player trys to stop them with cops and the various traps and such you can normally do) it shows the tablet player sending a message to the driver saying "I SEE YOU" or some poo poo like that that i've never seen anybody actually do.

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The Heavenator
Feb 28, 2011

BangBangBang! Commando of the Galaxy
Right, so the next update will be delayed for about a week because Aiden hacked my computer so hard it blew up. What a dick.

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