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Damiya posted:what no taupe joke? damnit fried chicken 2 final pages saying to use it. But doesn't bat an eye. So much like single payer. We just can't have nice things
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Sir Tonk posted:http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/border-patrol-agent-fires-at-armed-militia-member Really, these guys don't know how lucky they are that the coyotes/Mexican Mafia/et al don't want to go after them, if only because a few white militia guys "disappearing" into the desert scrub would bring a lot of unwanted attention from the Feds.
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fade5 posted:Really, these guys don't know how lucky they are that the coyotes/Mexican Mafia/et al don't want to go after them, if only because a few white militia guys "disappearing" into the desert scrub would bring a lot of unwanted attention from the Feds. From what I've seen on the subject, there's a heck of a lot of Dunning-Kruger effect going on with these Call of Duty wannabes. A classic: 
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Warmachine posted:The only way the GOP could get any value out of shutting down the government in the middle of election season is if they could spin it that it was the Democrats who did it. Which, that didn't work so well last time, if I remember correctly. Anyone who wasn't already voting straight ticket R saw through the bullshit, with a few examples of hand wringing, "Well, why can't they get along, it's BOTH sides' fault!" And bear in mind that it's Marco Rubio talking about a shutdown, specifically over any attempt at an immigration bill. GOP to immigrants: "Stop making me hit you, please."
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Aug 30, 2014 20:55
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Republican congress just put out new details on the Obama lawsuit http://www.nationaljournal.com/congress/house-hires-lawyer-for-obama-lawsuit-20140825
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Aug 30, 2014 20:58
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Prokhor Zakharov posted:Republican congress just put out new details on the Obama lawsuit Looking up David Rivkin reminded me of how insanely dull it was to write about lawyers for a living. I hope his courtroom presence is better than this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjO_f0_vfZk&t=61s
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Aug 30, 2014 22:35
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Realchat: Who's gonna be doing parades in too hot for it weather this weekend? Luckily our afterpartys held at the VFW, so buck drinks for everyone involved.
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Jackson Taus posted:
With Amergin trapped inside! 
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Aug 31, 2014 00:00
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He got D&D so mad there was a 2 page thread on how to respond to him. Master troll.
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Remember 2 years back when (former) House Majority Leader Cantor responded to Labor Day by tweeting about how the true heroes are the rich "job creators"? Well the right has come up with a new way to protest the existance of Labor Day - workingquote:Right wing launches misguided protest against Labor Day
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Aug 31, 2014 00:23
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How is the thread title not Audacity of Taupe...? 
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The Texas militia dudes are at pretty much every gun show in the state walking around acting tough. You can spot them because they're always wearing some variant of the digital camo and covered in their own dumb unit patches. They're literally either the people that get kicked out of the military before their initial enlistment is up for doing something stupid, or those that couldn't even get into the military, so they're compensating by pretending with their buddies. Also, they all seem to either be cops or work at prisons  If you're near a gun show, stop by and hang around them close enough to hear what they're talking about. I swear every time I hear a story about some huge bunker full of automatic weapons and ammo in the hill country that they're holding on to just in case.
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Aug 31, 2014 00:25
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Fried Chicken posted:Remember 2 years back when (former) House Majority Leader Cantor responded to Labor Day by tweeting about how the true heroes are the rich "job creators"? Well the right has come up with a new way to protest the existance of Labor Day - working  As if you can count horking out conservative policy papers as "work."
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Aug 31, 2014 00:29
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Fried Chicken posted:Remember 2 years back when (former) House Majority Leader Cantor responded to Labor Day by tweeting about how the true heroes are the rich "job creators"? Well the right has come up with a new way to protest the existance of Labor Day - working Holy poo poo. I got nothing, except to say that all of the world's ills can be traced back to this guy Mike I knew in high school, gently caress that guy.
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You know, when I talk to foreigners about Labor Day they often associate it with their May Day, if they have one, but I tell them that's not exactly it, since May Day has historical union/communist connections in the US while Labor Day doesn't. Little did I know that they both do...?
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Samurai Sanders posted:You know, when I talk to foreigners about Labor Day they often associate it with their May Day, if they have one, but I tell them that's not exactly it, since May Day has historical union/communist connections in the US while Labor Day doesn't. Little did I know that they both do...? Labor unions and the strides they have made for workers rights is why Labor Day was invented initially, but it's been whitewashed as much as possible in the last century. Edit: seems like it was made a national holiday after the Haymarket Massacre, so yeah, it's def. about labor unions. Fuckt Tupp fucked around with this message at 01:23 on Aug 31, 2014 |
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Samurai Sanders posted:You know, when I talk to foreigners about Labor Day they often associate it with their May Day, if they have one, but I tell them that's not exactly it, since May Day has historical union/communist connections in the US while Labor Day doesn't. Little did I know that they both do...? Labor Day was created by Congress as an alternative to May Day as a way to head off socialist sentiment quote:Following the deaths of a number of workers at the hands of the U.S. military and U.S. Marshals during the Pullman Strike, the United States Congress unanimously voted to approve rush legislation that made Labor Day a national holiday; President Grover Cleveland signed it into law a mere six days after the end of the strike.[5] The September date originally chosen by the CLU of New York and observed by many of the nation's trade unions for the past several years was selected rather than the more widespread International Workers' Day because Cleveland was concerned that observance of the latter would be associated with the nascent Communist, Syndicalist and Anarchist movements that, though distinct from one another, had rallied to commemorate the Haymarket Affair in International Workers' Day.[6] All U.S. states, the District of Columbia, and the territories have made it a statutory holiday. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labor_Day#History
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My Imaginary GF posted:Realchat: Who's gonna be doing parades in too hot for it weather this weekend? It's a cool 65 and rainy in Seattle.
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Fried Chicken posted:Remember 2 years back when (former) House Majority Leader Cantor responded to Labor Day by tweeting about how the true heroes are the rich "job creators"? Well the right has come up with a new way to protest the existance of Labor Day - working Ah yes Labor Day, the holiday created to spite unions and socialists, is an instrument of union power.
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Aug 31, 2014 01:43
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SirKibbles posted:People keep throwing around echo chamber but it's really not most of the threads on SA have trended towards being more specialized,these threads used to be 100s of pages. It's really not an opposing view though very rarely did he post his actual positions and when he did it wasn't anything more than standard SA liberal so I'm not seeing how a liberal pretending to be conservative is stopping an echo chamber. If you wanted to do that you'd merge Gip and D&D. The echo chamber is created when the same ideas or values are repeated and lauded over and over. Injecting other ideas or positions that force other people (even if simply baited) is a lot better than not having that. Amergin does a reasonable job of representing a contrarian view, enough so that people feel compelled to respond. I don't see how that's such a bad thing.
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May 1st in America is 'Loyalty Day' and don't you forget it! The 787 is a case study in evil unions, well what about the F35?
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Personally, I think the chances of another shutdown are very high. I don't think Boehner's leadership team could put a clean CR right now if they wanted too, which I'm not convinced they do. My read on things is that the wingnut id is furious over the defeat last year and have chalked it up to a combination of Dolchstoss, and cowardice over the totally-not-real apocalypse of breaking the debt ceiling. Boehner will probably decide that at the very least he will need to put up the pretense of adding some poison pill amendments to the CR, and that will be more than enough to get the crazies chirping loudly. Based on how they all behaved last year I would anticipate a sort of feverish groupthink to overtake the House GOP at some point and drive us right off the cliff. Also if Obama does any sort of executive order about immigration or climate change the resulting screeching will, in my opinion, all but guarantee a shutdown fight. It will be viewed internally (by the wingnuts at least) as a prelude to the impeachment fight that America will now totally want because of this tyrants abuse of power in the name of brown people/fake climate change. The attempt by the GOPe to massage away the impeachment impulse of their own caucus will probably be quickly memory-holed. Also there is also Ted Cruz to consider, and if he sees any way to raise his own wingnut street cred by triggering another shutdown he will do so faster than you can say "sociopath". As November approaches I think we are going to start to see some pretty unhinged behavior. Conservatives now fight on behalf of an America that does not exist that demands they bring us back to the glory days that never happened, and their opponents in this are a caricature of Democrats that exists only in their heads. They are furious over the defeat of 2012/the defeat of the shutdown, and the only way the mindset these people have knows how to handle defeat is to double down over and over again. They believe America deserves to be punished for electing a Kenyan marxist muslim islamo-fascist and they are generally perplexed that they haven't been given more power. In the same way they scream for "tough on crime" laws and punitive justice, they want to get "tough on Government" and punish America. The moment they perceive (note, may not actually exist) a real chance to punish people for rejecting them they will abandon all sense of self preservation and throw everything they have into that effort. That is my read at least. I am admittedly crazy, so take this all with a grain of salt. That said, I'm just going by how I've seen this sort of situation play out on smaller scales in situations involving people with the exact same mindset. Edit:If there is a shutdown, I expect it to last until past the elections.
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Raskolnikov38 posted:Ah yes Labor Day, the holiday created to spite unions and socialists, is an instrument of union power. It's a federal holiday that exists because the government was scared of the labor movement. Christianity only has two federal holidays. From a certain type of paranoid right-wing viewpoint, that makes the labor movement a sleeping giant.
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Prester John posted:Personally, I think the chances of another shutdown are very high. I don't think Boehner's leadership team could put a clean CR right now if they wanted too, which I'm not convinced they do. Why would they want to? They've created a system where the government can limp along dysfunctionally with Obama turning grey trying to figure out how to make poo poo work while they just blame him for actually running the government.
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SavageBastard posted:Why would they want to? They've created a system where the government can limp along dysfunctionally with Obama turning grey trying to figure out how to make poo poo work while they just blame him for actually running the government. DO you mean why would they want another shutdown fight or why would they want to put up a clean CR?
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Dr.Zeppelin posted:It's a federal holiday that exists because the government was scared of the labor movement. Christianity only has two federal holidays. From a certain type of paranoid right-wing viewpoint, that makes the labor movement a sleeping giant. Christmas is one, what is the other?
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DangerKat posted:Christmas is one, what is the other? New Year's Day.
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DangerKat posted:Christmas is one, what is the other? Independence Day, presumably.
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When would we need a CR by to avoid a shutdown? I contract for a 3-letter agency now and I want to plan ahead now (PTO, savings account, etc).
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Good Friday is a holiday in several states but the only Christian one federally recognized is Christmas since Easter is always on a Sunday.
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CommanderApaul posted:When would we need a CR by to avoid a shutdown? I contract for a 3-letter agency now and I want to plan ahead now (PTO, savings account, etc). Wikipedia says the spending bill from January runs out on October 1st.
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Raskolnikov38 posted:Good Friday is a holiday in several states but the only Christian one federally recognized is Christmas since Easter is always on a Sunday. It's not federally recognized, you can tell because there's no enabling legislation that says it happens at X time each year. It's determined by religious authorities, and there's at least two different dates for it each year. As far as the breakdown of holidays go, let's see, we've got 3 for dead white men, 1 for dead black men, 1 for the labor movement, 1 for the Christians, 1 for the retail industry, 1 for the nation at large, 1 because of tradition, and 2 for the military. Seems like dead white guys are in the lead, with the military falling close behind. Seems about right.
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I dig that total forced collapse for no reason is like an annual budgetary issue for Americans now, like the stupid coups in Thailand. Oh hey guys when is our next total political failure? Let me know so I can save up - THX! If you wondered what it's like living in the developing world, WELCOME TO THE CLUB.
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Warmachine posted:From what I've seen on the subject, there's a heck of a lot of Dunning-Kruger effect going on with these Call of Duty wannabes. A classic: Literally American Taliban, only less effective in actual guerrilla warfare.
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Fried Chicken posted:Remember 2 years back when (former) House Majority Leader Cantor responded to Labor Day by tweeting about how the true heroes are the rich "job creators"? Well the right has come up with a new way to protest the existance of Labor Day - working Freedom Foundation CEO Tom McCabe posted:I can’t think of a problem in society that can’t be traced in some way back to the abuses of organized labor USPOL September - Tracing literally all problems in society to unions
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ReindeerF posted:I dig that total forced collapse for no reason is like an annual budgetary issue for Americans now, like the stupid coups in Thailand. Oh hey guys when is our next total political failure? Let me know so I can save up - THX! Well, at least the power stays on. Enough in American's lives are done by non-federal authorities that only the perks are immediately closed during protracted budget fights.
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My Imaginary GF posted:Well, at least the power stays on. Enough in American's lives are done by non-federal authorities that only the perks are immediately closed during protracted budget fights. And a lot of people who work for the federal government. I suppose not paying government employees for a few months every year is one way towards small government.
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My Imaginary GF posted:Well, at least the power stays on. Enough in American's lives are done by non-federal authorities that only the perks are immediately closed during protracted budget fights. 
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Cythereal posted:I suppose not paying government employees for a few months every year is one way towards small government. Brings a whole new meaning to "starving the beast".
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