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Pasco posted:The last UKMT I wouldn't worry about that: I expect they'd go with 'The United Kingdom of England, Wales and Northern Ireland'.
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Pasco posted:Wales should be so lucky. Maybe they'll be added in as a sop to stop Plaid Cymru turning into the SNP Mk.2 I think it has a nicer sound to it than just 'England and Northern Ireland'.
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Sep 1, 2014 12:29
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KKKlean Energy posted:We should just rebrand as "UK". 'UK' isn't an acronym, it's an initialism. This mistake is a constant bugbear of mine.
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Sep 1, 2014 13:43
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Guavanaut posted:Which regions actually got to vote on it? All I remember was the government stirring up a lot of 'are costs There's this thing called the internet http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_England_devolution_referendums,_2004
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Sep 1, 2014 14:50
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' arguments in Yorkshire, which smacked a lot of the 'This baby needs new body armour, not a fair voting system' adverts. I can't remember the midlands or north-east getting any kind of vote.
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Sep 4, 2014 10:06
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Zephro posted:Yeah, this is the thing. Have the yes campaign ever pointed to Ireland? Irish independence happened under much less favourable conditions than Scottish independence would. Nowadays, though, do you think anyone at all seriously advocates re-merging with the UK? Never mind the No line that an independent Scotland would instantly fall into the sea. Some stuff would change, the country might be slightly richer or slightly poorer, but it would basically be fine in the end. That would only work based on the assumption that, all things being equal, the majority of Scotland would rather Scotland were not in the UK, which so far doesn't seem to be the case. So instead a demonstrable benefit from independence - usually represented in terms of cash - has to be put forward, while reducing the visible effects of independence (losing the head of state, a change in the currency in your pocket) that would scare most off. Regardless, there's a whole thread for this already.
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Sep 4, 2014 12:26
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Zohar posted:I don't think there's actually anything in the act preventing motions of no confidence initiated by the government against itself, which basically amounts to the same thing as calling a snap election, though. It's not the same thing though. A vote of no confidence is a fairly massive deal that could be seen a mile off, the sitting prime minister choosing when to hold an election when most advantageous, and the frequent discussion/rumours of doing so, was standard procedure.
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Sep 4, 2014 13:18
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Renaissance Robot posted:What even is actually being debated here? I know it's funny to just say "puppies and kittens" like that's completely self-explanatory, but I really would like to know. Puppies or Kittens: which are better?
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Sep 4, 2014 22:16
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Sorry I meant future orders described in this post:ukle posted:Just thought, we don't have a big enough destroyer/frigate fleet anymore to properly escort 2 carriers, so guess they will also be having to be building a few more of them. Should make a lot of Military bods happy as many of them have been moaning that the Navy was far to small to be operational.
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Praseodymi posted:You'll all be glad to know the NHS spends between £4 million and £12 million on homoeopathy. This does not make me glad.
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Renaissance Robot posted:What kind of fruit is red on the outside and blue on the inside? A sad tomato.
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Sep 7, 2014 11:38
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ookiimarukochan posted:The Queen had 3 or 4 severely mentally ill cousins, and they were vanished, kept secret until the early 80s. Reflecting how such people were treated by society at large at the time.
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baka kaba posted:Yeah but don't forget, royal babby fever is partly driven by the idea that "this young boy, already displaying a wisdom beyond his years as he plays with a toy giraffe, is the future king of Britain". I wouldn't be surprised if there's a large monarchist contingent who believe Charles should be skipped outright It wouldn't surprise me if Charles was one of them.
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Coohoolin posted:Something to share with your friends on your facebooks: To be frank, I don't give a tuppence that you don't give a gently caress.
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Obliterati posted:This is better for Yes than any of our campaign materials. It doesn't say much for your campaign materials if a paywalled post on an American forum is more effective.
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Sep 9, 2014 19:08
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Spooky Hyena posted:The referendum was held (and got a yes majority), but it didn't have a high enough turnout to count as valid. The parliament was created later. That's what I meant, sorry if the phrasing was confusing. You're mixing up the 1997 and 1979 referenda, the latter of which had a minimum threshold requirement in order to pass.
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JFairfax posted:Christmas is cancelled as all superfluous lights are prohibited to ensure that there are not power outages over the winter period. Is this true?
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Zephro posted:There've been suggestions that you'd have regional parliaments, maybe even based on some variation of the old kingdoms of Mercia, Wessex and Northumbria. That would be interesting 
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marktheando posted:Also Ian Paisley died. This Martin McGuinness posted:"Over a number of decades we were political opponents and held very different views on many, many issues but the one thing we were absolutely united on was the principle that our people were better able to govern themselves than any British government," he said. Shows how far Northern Ireland has come. Pissflaps fucked around with this message at 13:10 on Sep 12, 2014 |
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Whitefish posted:And maybe there is something about football which fundamentally makes it unsuited to statistical analysis These people always forget that it really is a funny old game. Froodulous posted:Banking works more or less the same way. In a group of one thousand bankers (technically 1024), one of them is likely to get ten major 50/50 decisions in a row correct if they are as good as a coin flip. That banker gets seen as some kind of banking genius and climbs up the career ladder. Derren Brown did this stunt where he showed how he had emailed some random woman something like 4 horses in a row to put a bet on - each one came in as a winner, and for the fifth they did it together at a race track and that one came in too - against seemingly impossible odds. Then he explained how he did it - started with hundreds of people, each with a different horse in a different race, then of the winners from that group did it again, until ultimately you're left with the one that had the winning horse each time. Pissflaps fucked around with this message at 10:06 on Sep 13, 2014 |
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twoot posted:Today's Sunday Times/Yougov poll finds that 72% of respondents think a government elected next May which is reliant on Scottish MPs would not be legitimate. Why are they hosed if it's a 'no' ?
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twoot posted:Actually turns out the tweet I got it from was wrong. I thought it was about after a No vote, but I looked at the tables and its actually about after a Yes. It wouldn't have made a lot of sense if it was after a No vote. Also we say Labour 'are' hosed, not 'is'.
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Guavanaut posted:Labour MPs 'are' hosed, the Labour Party 'is' hosed. They use the singular for themselves. I'll need to see a source for this i've only ever heard party names used as a plural. He didn't say 'Labour Party' he said 'Labour'. edit: checked their manifesto and indeed it's 'Labour is'. I've never noticed that before. I'll be keeping an ear open for that as i'd never commonly say 'labour is'. Pissflaps fucked around with this message at 17:06 on Sep 14, 2014 |
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goddamnedtwisto posted:There's absolutely no risk in a currency union based on the same basis as the current one. If anything the risk is slightly lowered because the BoE would no longer be lender of last resort for Scottish banks, taking a huge chunk of their potential liability off the books immediately. The whole point of the proposed currency union would be to retain the BOE as Scotland's lender of last resort. Sterlingisation - using the UK currency outside of a formal agreement - would see Scotland using the pound without the assistance of the BOE.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:It's not the whole point (but it is probably the biggest point), and it's possible that they could drop that in negotiation or at least phase it out. Like I say that hardly represents a new risk to the BoE even if it is kept in place. It does because right now there is a political union that keeps the economies of the two countries in lockstep. Independence breaks that. I'm not sure what you think a currency union is if it doesn't include the BOE acting on behalf of Scotland outside of a political union.
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The reason why the Yes campaign isn't proposing a new currency is because it would be unpopular and make people less likely to vote for independence.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Currency union is not the same as the other functions of a central bank such as bank regulation and acting as a lender of last resort, those functions have tended to be unified in one institution but we've already seen with the Eurozone that central banks do not have to be the currency-issuing authority. Then what do you think the proposed currency union would actually involve? And do you realise what you're saying goes against both the Scottish and British government's own position on what a currency union would mean?
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Those are both the initial postures and I'm sure if Westminster hadn't decided to get all stupid with the "NO UK NO POUNDS BITCHES" stance something could - and should - have been worked out that would be advantageous to all sides. The postures are that one side wants it, the other has rejected it. There seems no argument over what actually constitutes a currency union.
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This isnt the Scotland thead.
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Spangly A posted:actually I think this is just a v cool story, my first love's dad slept with Lou Reed and this is how I was introduced to fluid sexuality, music is awesome. Were you there?
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Trickjaw posted:Also, its worth noting that whenever you buy a device capable of reception, the retialer kindly dobs you in to Licencing. I don't think that's true anymore.
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Sep 25, 2014 22:37
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Why are catchup services exempt from requiring a license to use?
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Sep 25, 2014 22:40
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Spangly A posted:Because the internet didn't exist when the law was written They must've changed it recently for smartphones.
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Sep 25, 2014 22:43
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I'm fully licensed and I've had my shots.
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Extreme0 posted:Sure is a good sign of a stable nation that a country was about to break away from it eh? It never was.
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Sep 26, 2014 21:54
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On the basis of polling data and the final result.
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Extreme0 posted:Missing the point there pissflaps. A stable nation shouldn't of had to deal with the likes of self-determination if there was no reason to have one. A stable nation also dosen't have 45% of the voter turnout wanting to leave either. So I guess we're as unstable as Canada but not as stable as Spain, France or Italy. Fair enough. Also good work editing your question to something else two minutes after I answered it.
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