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That EO2 -> EO3 Ambush change highlights something Atlus has done amazingly well across this series, which is improving difficulty fairness without making the games easier. I can't think of a single change (except 1 -> 2 FOE changes that got reverted/improved in 3) that didn't feel as though it was fairer without seeming like the game difficulty got nerfed. Ambush was a good idea, and it's great with the warning and risk/reward in 3, but EO2 ambush is difficult in the same way that, yeah, a squirrel stealing your party's swords would be a difficulty bump, sure. I'm surprised there was never an equipment-loss event in this series now that I think about it. How did post-game EO1 not have "This flesh wall has a glimmering hole haha a hellsquirrel steals your first party member's pants. Also his skill points. And it's yes or no go ahead pick one haha"
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Sep 22, 2014 14:49
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That still sucks to hear about the computer, even if it was on its way out the door. Is that a new speed record for an LP killing a hard drive?(Because even if it died for entirely non-emulation reasons that had been happening, this is a curse and thus gets the kill credit)
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Glad to see you back! Especially given you saying the labyrinth is going to start getting "a lot more mean"  I remember reaching the second, max third stratum before giving up on this one, so seeing it with well-written character banter is the perfect way to digest this game. Just replayed EO1, the original, and even that was an enjoyable romp through Since-Made-Far-Better mechanic history. This game though... Nah, you. You suffer through it. For us.
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After having played EOIV and its "Endgame bosses + some enemies/FOEs have a last 20% of health super move" seeing the exact opposite (Survive to 55% health, end fight!) thanks to the completely broken magic of Climax is really great!
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w/r/t "The first stratum is the hardest and most death-prone... until the post game that is!" I can't gush enough about EO difficulty curves, and that's another aspect I love. Because you've outlined it perfectly before Dr. Fetus, that nothing gets easier, you just get more tricks and become generally more competent as the enemies rise in power at an expected rate. Then you hit the post-game and the game difficulty basically says "Wow, you've built up a team with all sorts of fun gimmicks! What if they were like level 1 squish-balls again, but also with lvl 10 climax? Hah wouldn't that be crazy anyway HERE YOU GO"
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Oct 20, 2014 21:50
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Kemix posted:Sounds good to me. Gilbert is still RNG king right now. I mean seriously. THIS. Dr. Fetus your writing and screenshot choice was spot-on and good to convey (helped by us all having those dungeon dive almost-dead moments) but I literally gasped when it came down to ONE. LAST. CHANCE. To get out alive. GIlbert has earned a plushy retirement at the end of this LP.
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Dec 3, 2014 17:11
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One of the best features of this LP is seeing how many combos can actually work. In EO2 of all places. As EO3 chat spot-on-ly mentioned, it's such a wonderful thing that the newer games let you win with the team you want (mostly). With some skill planning, if five of the most random-rear end portraits hit you as Your. Absolute. Team. You can usually make a go of it. To post-game at least
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Jan 9, 2015 22:09
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Dr. Fetus posted:Well I hope you all enjoyed the more frequent updates, because I'm not gonna be able to put out any more of those for a while. I'm getting real busy at this point, so updates are gonna have to slow down. Possibly significantly. I was hoping to get one last update in before I got really busy again, but I couldn't get that done in time. Best case scenario is that I update as often as I did before deciding to update more frequently. (Probably not happening.) Worst case scenario, this hits the archives. (Definitely not happening. Maybe.) It was a nice holiday bonus! The writing quality is both worth the wait and pretty well explains it, on top of the usual effort for an LP. I promise if this thread nears the archives to turn on you and start posting snippy one sentence posts asking if the thread is dead or you're just lazy. That will be my gift to you for your hard work (calling you lazy) (I give great gifts)
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Dr. Fetus posted:Yeah, basically I'm holding back because it's really easy to vaporize the game's difficulty if you know what to do. Pauline having the bow back in the 3rd Stratum would have broken that part of the game, but in a pretty boring way. I like to get creative when I decide to break any EO game in two. I am definitely of the "Break the game before you break yourself with frustration" crowd, but I do appreciate your knowledge of the game and nods like this for the LP! Use that bow! Now if only Bellamy got something like this so it could go to his head and, knowing your luck, he could immediately have his pride shattered by a lucky (!) string of random deaths!
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And the thread keeps on delivering! That Dragon kill legitimately blew me away, even knowing the shenanigans you can get into in these games. What impressed me more was the writing of an in-game bewilderment and awe at the team's own accomplishments. It cannot be said enough how much your writing ability shines in this Fetus. This LP would be good without the character dialogue, no doubt, but it's what makes this a must-read! Also, even though my picks have gotten a lot of love... Gilbert Nick Pauline
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Dr. Fetus posted:I'm a little curious on people's thoughts on the game so far. What do you think the floating castle looks like? And what's the deal with the bird people? Until you mentioned this game having some of the best aesthetics (which I COMPLETELY concur with hot drat)? I couldn't help picturing the horrible samey 4th Stratum from EO3. With less pictorials. Or more Spoiling based on vague series spoiling: Based on EO story structure bird people would be an offshoot branch of humanity that stayed in the castle while our branch of humanity descended and then started adventuring. If it isn't this I will be SHOCKED. Old Greg fucked around with this message at 21:34 on Mar 5, 2015 |
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Mar 5, 2015 21:31
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Pauline and Gilbert have a place in my heart (for now sorry Pauline) Nick makes me uncomfortable every time. Use Nick. (That gag is a really great one that keeps making me chuckle)
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Mar 9, 2015 20:13
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The golden flying saucer-ish castle on the title cards for the stratum was a cool design! I was legitimately excited to see the interior! Then... then, oh no. Oh no. It really is best described as Piss Castle. Complete with Piss Also that boss dominance was beautiful to behold! Hopefully that party strength will hold for a few more floors.
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Dr. Fetus posted:Mandrakes are such cool enemies. Oof. Thanks for suffering through for our entertainment! It really can't be said enough how unforgivably balanced these games are, and Mandrakes are the exception that prove the rule. What I've loved in this LP is seeing both how 90% of skills are dead weight, but every class can be made workable, even if they can be completely and utterly out-shined by another class. Or in Pauline's case, you need a post-game bow early, otherwise she'll just bring blindside guard if not replaced by a gunner. Old Greg fucked around with this message at 18:23 on Mar 16, 2015 |
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I literally cheered in my seat at work and threw my hands up when that Torpor went off. And then your inspired writing afterwards! This is such a wonderful LP Good Doctor. Mostly thanks to the writing. Thank you from the bottom of my over-excited heart!     Also co-signed on finish this fucker up with Climax and Revenge hexes galore if you're burning out. Consider it an early post-game Taking-Power-Into-My-Hands imperative.
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Aliara and Bellamy. Still riding high on that high-five! So tempted to go maximum overkill with Pauline, but in the interest of giving Colossus a little wiggle room to make things interesting, Fedot.
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So close. So excited.  I'm guessing the answer's no, but does the 23rd floor ever get mobs after Colossus goes down? I do kindof love that gimmick of "Dodge/Handle FOEs to fight the boss."
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Mar 19, 2015 14:36
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Bellamy, Pauline, Fedot
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Dr. Fetus posted:Uh, EO1 is a maybe. I have no idea what I'm doing after this. I don't know if I would be doing a narrative LP again if I do decide to do another EO game. This LP wasn't even supposed to be narrative in the first place since I didn't want to make the subforum suffer through MUH FANFICTION. But while I was making the test post for the Sandcastle, I found that I had nothing much to say. So I just rolled with the narrative thing since I just wanted to show off the game, and kept at it since I didn't get immediately booed off the subforum. But now that I actually have experience at LPing, I could probably just do a regular LP if I decide to do another EO game. Legitimately, your writing style is the main draw for me. Technically without it this is still a grade A LP on all other counts, but that's what pole vaults it into being so good. Especially given how frequently you update! But as a writer "maybe getting booed off the subforum" is how I describe all my work (hopefully this chapter won't lose me every friend I've ever had, retroactively) so just wanted to give you my perspective. 
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There is no reprieve from the hellish antics of the squirrel. Take a moment of pity and be made a fool. Floor 24 has no bugs with encounter rates. You've survived that far. The squirrel needs to finish the job of killing you and all it can do is steal warp wires and mess with the encounter rate through the quest system.
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Agreed with the good doctor and especially SSNeoman. It's worth not making sense to achieve the plot goal "YOU were the dicks all along!" (Even though by floor five you've already genocided a species for game-play purposes) but having the place mapped out would probably be a boon for the tourism board. "Come visit Etria's Labyrinth! We have guided tours with completed maps that inform you which flower meadows will recover HP and which will sic Venombugs on your rear end!"
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I gotta admit, knowing the meaning behind "relic" I still got thrown for a loop by the game's just-took-a-picture description until you returned to the bar. "Ah, aha! A flash and... vellum? With strange markings? Did... did the camera print out some writing?"
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The Bellamy Alternate Universe Fight is as entertaining as the best "What-Ifs" from DBZ fighting games. What if Bellamy's strict passion for Interior Design clashes with the Overlord's incredulity about being confronted not for violating the natural world but for violating our eyes? Stay tuned!
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Dr. Fetus posted:
Chiming in (for like the 4th time too?) to say it was an EXCELLENT ride. Thank you good Doctor! Especially given your further hatred of the game really didn't come through, except for bugs, but understandable gripes. Started replaying EO3 knowing this was coming to an end and still wanting an Etrian Odyssey fix every day. Very quickly got over wanting all experience bars even, which that game breaks pretty quick anyway with certain side bosses giving full heals, but I don't think I made it ten fights 
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Apr 1, 2015 16:30
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Definitely vote that you only hold back if it makes it more fun/interesting for YOU. Otherwise allow the revenge skill to truly live up to its name
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Apr 1, 2015 18:41
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Theantero posted:Well since we're constantly going upwards and above the floating castle there's nothing but clouds it's obvious that we're going into some sort of cloud castle. Or perhaps... OUTER SPACE!?! Following the Illusion of Gaia LP and gently caress me would I ever LOVE a sixth stratum that looked like the dark space from that game. This also brings up a good point though. Are we gonna step through a wormhole to a hell dimension? Because the ending credits made it fairly clear there's a bunch of sky above the floating castle. So my vote is 6th Stratum is Hell from Event Horizon
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SomeMathGuy posted:puke-green on poo poo-brown. Only one way down from piss-yellow!
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Fetus, I am amazed at your commitment and resistance to burn-out. You've basically reached super-human status in each  Also part of why I love the thread is we are a community of people who consistently are pretty moral murder hobos No ironic defenses of saving a little girl over DRAGON SLAYING  It was never much of a question of which quest is done first for Firefly.(Also this joke is blown by you having already grinded but) can't wait to find out you retired the entire party to survivalists.
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Yeah, if this was a "Just shoot us both idiot!" choice it might be harder, but save the winged one and then punch anyone who gives you lip in the mouth.
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It is truly a pleasure to watch you work over the post game! ...and watch it work you right back over. 
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I'll vote The Party you'd like to use with the caveat that if you find it more interesting to use a different party then go whole hog. If you're loving the War Might Ricochet Revenge train, no need to get off at the next stop. :itisatrainanalogy:
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Dr. Fetus posted:Yeah, even in the postgame, Atlus still shows some generosity. Although considering the nature of the postgame, it can be easy to be on edge and decline out of paranoia. Before seeing it was safe and reading the above, I was certain this was an easily-figured out trap. I know the name of the dungeon exploring game is "On Floor 19, no one's ever been to floor 20; on Floor 20, three quests immediately have you helping guards camping there or getting some flower someone knows all about," but I thought the log would be a monster designed to look like a comfortable log. Because who got here before you, and had the time to take a rest? 
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Dr. Fetus posted:I have no idea how I'm gonna handle that floor either. I think I might just put up the actual map from GameFAQs so I don't have to run around in circles taking all the wrong teleporters, and just go through the ones that actually take me somewhere relevant. Voting for this and any further sanity saving measures. You have MORE than earned that with the effort you put into writing on top of the standard effort of LPing this game. It's been an amazing ride, good doctor! To point, with only a few hours any given week to play, I started an EO3 game to get my Etrian fix thinking this was ending fairly soon a month ago-ish. I, uh... I was pretty wrong. Stratum 3's boss in EO3 and this is still going strong!
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I hope for all your trouble it's a Game Genie level cheat and Fedot walks in and punches the final final boss to death. I know you wouldn't, but christ have you ever more than earned something like that!
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Nthing the excitement! There's a reason III is the game I'm currently playing thanks to this thread and not IV (or 1, or comedy option this actual Etrian Odyssey) (Also I own no Untolds and the more they're mentioned the more I want to fix that). I almost thought about having a farmer subclass because I do miss IV's bind and status supremacy. I have a ninja with maxed Fukubari, but it's not the same!
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theshim posted:Personally, even with one or two things like that, I greatly enjoyed the writing for this LP, and while you'll do what you think best, I for one would love to see EO3 get a similar treatment (and yes, I feel like I've complimented your writing 18 times already, but one more for the (almost there) road! This sums up my thoughts. Although my ultimate vote is doing the LP YOU enjoy, because I'm pretty sure we'll all follow regardless.
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Melufa posted:I'm so very glad this LP didn't end because of those computer issues. I didn't even know bosses could do 5 digit damage, let alone do enough that it overflows multiple times and the bonus boss ends up doing single digit damage to a fresh, naked recruit. SO the same. There's an alternate universe with less double Muckdile ambush and naked recruits surviving quintuple overflow errors and I don't wanna be in it.
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