Kirk Johnson posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFr30p0aZl0

Stick with it.

you irl posted:

sounds like u r lucky to be alive, maybe think about a cc?

poise krew posted:

(no they didn't assault the woman, they pushed her away)

limeincoke posted:

My (white) friends from Boston used to do this when I was in the Army. Just go down to Georgetown in DC and find random people to beat the gently caress out of. Weird.

Torka posted:

quarantine males of all races from age 16 to 24, watch violent crime rates plummet overnight

poise krew posted:

haha.. nuh-uh, look

Guy Fleegman posted:

Thought about it as I gazed out the window down to my van. But then, as much as I am a CC proponent, I wondered how that all would have gone down if I had had a weapon. Would I have suddenly become the aggressor? At what point of confrontation would I have felt it necessary to introduce it into the dialogue?

you irl posted:

just stand your ground bro

limeincoke posted:

My (white) friends from Boston used to do this when I was in the Army. Just go down to Georgetown in DC and find random people to beat the gently caress out of. Weird.

The Droid posted:

Guy Fleegman posted:

Unless you are being hunted down by a pack. Again, I address my initial question about the "pack mentality". I see this in the city I live and work in, St.Louis. I reiterate, I literally see this attitude numerous times throughout my work day because I service properties which allows me to see various neighborhoods and interact with the residents.

I'll see an "urban youth" alone on the porch or sidewalk and you would hardly notice him due to his quiet demeanor. Add two or three of his friends, and suddenly the whole dynamic changes. The conversation gets louder, the tone and inflections intensify, the gesturing becomes more pronounced. Stir in a couple more associates and suddenly the situation becomes formidable.

Last week in St.Louis (Jefferson and Kingshighway), I parked my work van at the curb outside a job site. I was by myself which I am most of the time. I got out, grabbed my toolbox and approached the front door. On the stoop sat an "urban youth" of about 19-20 years old. I said "good morning",he smiled and nodded, I walked by him, unlocked the door and went upstairs. The apartment was empty in this two-family unit. I assumed the young man lived in the other apartment. I opened the windows for some air and went to work.

About 30 minutes later, I was finished and packing up my tools. I walked into the living room to close the windows and I heard what sounded like 50 people down in the front yard. I looked down and saw the aforementioned young man and about seven other guys his age. They were loud. They were shoving each other. It seemed like they were having seven different conversations because they were all talking at once, laughing at once, cussing at once. And they were all leaning against my work van.

I walked downstairs and locked the door. I turned and walked toward my van, specifically the side door where I kept my toolboxes. As I approached, I said "Excuse me, I need to put this away." The two guys against the door stopped talking and just stood there at first, then took one small step away leaving me just enough room to put my tools away. As I was leaning inside my van, I could feel someone leaning on the door from the outside pinching me against the door and the frame of the van. I stepped back and shut the door. I said nothing.

One of the guys asked me, "Are you leaving now?" I told them that I was and that they should probably step away from the van. "Or what?" asked another guy. I just shut-up and crawled into the cab and started it up. I sat there for a minute watching my mirrors and I could see they weren't moving. So I simply put it in gear and pulled away. As I did, it spun a couple of them around and suddenly they began to scream and bang on my van with their fists. I just kept driving.

Again, "pack mentality". The quiet young man I had met on the porch earlier was now part of a threatening, intimidating group of assholes. I wondered if possibly, they were so insecure about themselves individually that they only gained power and confidence in numbers. Then I realized that I was giving it too much thought and I just said, "gently caress it." I spent the rest of the day trying not to think less of black people.

SHOTGUN REGULAR posted:

once I was walking home late after drinking and I saw a dude coming towards me, I got a feeling, you can just tell when some poo poo is about to happen. obviously I didn't cross the street or show any weakness, I kept my pace and pretended not to see him. sure enough as I passed this dude he went to grab me and nearly simultaneously (because I was ready for this poo poo) I put both hands in his face, shoved hard and said "get the gently caress away from me"


he stumbled a bit, looked sheepish, said "I was gonna rob you but" then kept walking

Kleen_TheRowdyDog posted:

how come we never see videos of 6 white guys beating up one black guy? (personally, i'm not sure that such videos even exist....b/c if they did, we would hear about them)

EA Sports posted:

i posted about my ghetto childhood exp before but generally ur poor as poo poo and people try to beat into that you are all each other have so you have to be as bad as one another. you remember doing bad poo poo to be cool when you were young? same thing. when i was in a group some of the hosed up poo poo they did bothered me, but it was the younger/"weaker" group of kids, even though some of them were adults. ill get to that later. basically in my town there were 3 groups, mine, the ones with mostly young kids and people who will probably not turn into criminals. there was another group of older guys who would hang out and do drugs and deal on the side, mostly on the side. they were basically the same as my group but grown up and into dealing. then there was the third group which was mostly transformed into a gang who beat people up and dealt hard stuff like crack. as people get older, they stop hanging out with those groups. like i got jumped by a group of kids really badly from the middle group, which basically convinced me to become a goony shutin. lots of kids i grew up with stopped hanging out in the neighborhood and would try to stay in afterschool stuff as much as possible. some of them stayed in the group and slowly graduated with that mentality to the more hosed up groups.

Meg From Family Guy posted:

This absolutely happened

Slipknot Hoagie posted:

bump

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iD246Wk2DT0

Kleen_TheRowdyDog posted:

how come none of these crackpot conservative gun nuts are conveniently never around when they could actually do some good - like in this instance?

Amarcarts posted:

I think there's a market here for those jackets from that one 007 movie that inflate around the wearer into a protective ball. Or maybe it was a Jackie Chan movie I forget.

Kleen_TheRowdyDog posted:

how come none of these crackpot conservative gun nuts are conveniently never around when they could actually do some good - like in this instance?

The Sphinxster posted:

I didn't see anything worth killing anyone over.

edit: or maybe you mean the white guy said something so awful he deserved to get shot. Yeah that's probably what you mean.

Cursed Lumberjack posted:

owned by a bunch of fuckin school kids

Guy Fleegman posted:

If you call 18-25 year-olds "school kids", then I want to know what school you went to. I swear a couple of them were pushing 30. And one was close to 12 feet tall. And they all spoke some odd, indecipherable language that apparently was unable to leave their mouth without the person first grabbing their crotch.

Kleen_TheRowdyDog posted:

you didn't see the attempted murder of the store employee by a group of three or four assailants? the laws of any state in this union would've permitted deadly force to stop them from killing that poor kid.

The Sphinxster posted:

Yes, that pumpkin was thrown with murderous intent.

I think you are a troll so I appreciate how you go from attempted murder to killing in two sentences. Did the guy die or not? Because I think attempted murder is when you actively try to kill someone.

The Sphinxster posted:

Yes, that pumpkin was thrown with murderous intent.

I think you are a troll so I appreciate how you go from attempted murder to killing in two sentences. Did the guy die or not? Because I think attempted murder is when you actively try to kill someone.

edit: I hope you don't carry a gun if you think that opening fire on the crowd would have improved the situation

Kleen_TheRowdyDog posted:

i mean, the violent crime stats released by the Dept. of Justice are pretty clear. just sayin'....

(unless, of course, the argument is that the DOJ falsifies its numbers)

Kleen_TheRowdyDog posted:

Under either crime, deadly force is universally permitted in this country when exercised in the defense of another.

The Sphinxster posted:

He's very committed to it tho and I have a feeling his opinions actually are terrible. It's a fine line kind of trolling.

The Sphinxster posted:

He's very committed to it tho and I have a feeling his opinions actually are terrible. It's a fine line kind of trolling.