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I really hope some dumb poo poo happens to the good drivers and NASCAR ends up with a thrilling battle between Biffle, Newman, Hamlin, and Kurt for all the marbles.
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Sep 8, 2014 16:29
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Kurt has had a poor year.
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Sep 8, 2014 16:39
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Because he has like five top-10s this year?
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Sep 8, 2014 23:44
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"I'm glad that Ray Rice did that thing. I saw the video and I thought it was cool." - Kurt Busch, today.
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Sep 9, 2014 00:55
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Harveygod posted:The elimination system actually makes "one bad race" much worse than it would have been before, which is still worse than in the pre-chase era. ex-loving-actly, and as the penalty for having individual bad races gets worse and worse, guess what, the incentive to race conservatively keeps increasing. Nobody is thinking this poo poo through.
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Sep 10, 2014 17:58
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I mean, it's a bad system, but "title goes to whoever has the most wins" is unironically a better system than any of the Chase systems that have been attempted so far.
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Sep 10, 2014 18:53
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There should not be a Chase.
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Sep 10, 2014 21:45
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FuzzySkinner posted:I'm just going by history. Which Talladega race is important? (Following question: If nobody knows which Talladega race is important, isn't that evidence that neither Talladega race is important?)
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Sep 10, 2014 23:08
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NASCAR is dogshit and should be shut down forever.
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Sep 11, 2014 03:36
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Brett Bodine?
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Sep 11, 2014 23:07
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Yeah, that'll clear the way for the likable NASCAR teams, such as
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Sep 14, 2014 19:24
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Tony did nothing wrong
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Sep 16, 2014 22:22
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I remember that Earnhardt's fans resented that race to the point where they were gleefully bringing it up as "karma" when the whole meth thing broke. Dale Earnhardt fans were mentally ill.
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Sep 17, 2014 15:11
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I have to imagine that aero becoming a big deal in the 90s made developing a shitload of different body styles too expensive for GM, but I don't actually know the real story. May have just been a marketing thing too- Buick wasn't exactly a "sporty" car brand by 1992.
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Sep 17, 2014 20:02
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Sonoma '93 is so good, it's the best NASCAR road race ever IMO. (Watkins Glen '88 is also good, if you can find that)
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Sep 17, 2014 22:53
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The fact that everyone is close because all the cars post-COT are basically the same is a problem. 1997 was all Gordon/Jarrett/Martin, and it was one of the best years I've ever seen.
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Sep 18, 2014 03:23
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it's my favorite argument, "you can't say races have gotten worse on average because some races in the past were actually bad"
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Sep 18, 2014 12:30
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Bristol was always extremely difficult to pass on, it's just that you can actually move someone up the track to pass if it's a low-lane track, but you're much more limited in your options if it's a high-line track. Also, the cars are much worse.
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Sep 18, 2014 15:36
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The top-35 rule wasn't really that bad. It was a replacement for the old provisional system, which, if anything, was much more complicated and weird.
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Sep 18, 2014 17:59
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VikingSkull posted:well it's a different time It's Spring Michigan '99. Occasional terrible races aren't a problem any more than the occasional football game being a 41-3 route is. The races being homogeneously bad is a problem.
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Sep 18, 2014 18:02
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I'm not clamoring to bring back the Dover 500 milers, because those were insane. I absolutely hate the idea that just bringing the cars closer together is what makes good racing, though. Yes, the gaps were bigger back then, because the performance differentials between cars was greater, but that also meant you could also reel in a 10 second gap on track back then because of those performance differentials. You also seemed to have more variations in performance during long green runs, and that's what made it bearable. Maybe tires degraded more back then, maybe the cars reacted more to changing conditions, or maybe it was just a result of them being more different in general. What it meant, though, was that long green flag runs were not only bearable, but actually desirable, because it made the race seem like a coherent narrative. Gordon pulls out a 10 second lead in the first stint, Martin improves his car, reels him in and takes the lead in the second stint, etc. I'm not joking when I say that NASCAR (especially on the intermediate ovals) was almost like endurance racing. These days, if a race has a long green stint, you can almost guarantee that nothing interesting happened, other than a bunch of cars running in line a few seconds apart. The races don't have any storyline other than "everyone can only pass in maybe the first three or four laps after a restart, some stupid poo poo happens in a GWC, end". There's no opportunity for storylines to develop through the race, and without those storylines, there's no reason to watch anything except the end.
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Sep 19, 2014 06:08
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Waltzing Along posted:Why did Gordon curb stomp everyone? Because he was insanely good, and his crew chief was insanely good (at cheating, but so were Roush/Yates). If you want to see exactly how good, look at the 1997 standings, and see how well the other Chevrolet drivers did. http://www.racing-reference.info/yeardet/1997/W (Chevrolet won 11 races that year. Gordon won 10, and Terry Labonte won 1.)
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Sep 19, 2014 06:11
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CBJSprague24 posted:Should've added this to my post, but this is the 2007 CoT: It was such a loving piece of poo poo.
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Sep 19, 2014 16:51
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I think ARCA once had a race at the old Atlanta that ended with like four gigantic accidents and someone's arm getting ripped off.
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Sep 20, 2014 23:34
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I hate Dylan Kwasniewski and Chase Elliott, in fairness.
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Sep 21, 2014 04:05
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L_Harrison posted:Hey look, the rule changes are out, and NASCAR made awful decisions again (tapered spacer lol). Lmao
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Sep 23, 2014 20:11
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Mmm tapered spacers. Ready for another season of unwatchably poor racing. *Fag Boy Jim fistpumps
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Sep 23, 2014 20:54
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I think NASCAR is secretly really jealous of the mid-2000s IRL package or something.
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Sep 23, 2014 21:31
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I always thought the implementation of tapered spacers were a big part of why Busch/Nationwide's racing quality went off a cliff in the late 00s (the death of like, every respectable stalwart Busch team, which killed the field quality didn't help either)
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Sep 23, 2014 23:16
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Peanut President posted:You mean the one Jeff Burton won flag-to-flag? Then yes. They won't. NASCAR hadn't implemented the policy of every race ending in a string of double file restarts back then.
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Sep 23, 2014 23:31
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Always knew the lad did nothing wrong.
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Sep 24, 2014 20:01
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I'm glad he died.
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Sep 24, 2014 22:28
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Looks like Ward took two big hits that night. Haha.
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Sep 25, 2014 04:08
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Larry Mac is mentally ill, as is DW.
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Sep 26, 2014 02:27
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Jeff Gordon drew fans. Jimmie Johnson hasn't. No reflection on his ability as a driver, and a lot of that isn't his fault, but it's how it is.
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Sep 27, 2014 02:50
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Uncle Jam posted:And people hated the poo poo out of Jeff Gordon holy poo poo. I mean come on, it was worse than Kyle. Yeah. But unlike Kyle, they packed the stands to boo the poo poo out of him.
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Sep 27, 2014 04:34
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I really want Gordon to get 100 cup wins, it'd be neat IMO
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Sep 29, 2014 04:36
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he's got nothing left to prove (except his mental stability) but I hope he isn't done for good.
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CBJSprague24 posted:I'm still perplexed as to how an otherwise entertaining NNS race still finds a way to have Kyle Busch and Kevin Harvick finish 1-2. It's because Nationwide has a single digit number of good cars and those are two of them.
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