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Real talk, folks: Rome did not end with the fall of Rome to the Germans and the subsequent centuries of Christian rule (I.E The Catholic Church). The so called Byzantine Empire persisted for another 1000 years after the official 500AD fall of Rome date. But this other empire was not a Byzantine empire whatsoever, but Rome itself. The so called Byzantine Empire was in fact the Roman Empire and it lasted until 1492 or so when finally conquered by the Turks, but even the Turks continued the tradition as the "Ottoman Empire" and that ended only in WW1 around 1920 or so. And thus the title of this thread.
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Sep 8, 2014 05:05
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An argument can be made that the Roman Empire never ended, it's all relative to how intrinsically you associate a specific culture with a political dynasty.
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Sep 8, 2014 05:10
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I agree up until the fall of Constantinople. If one asked a resident of what we call the Byzantine Empire what he was he would have said he was a Roman even though he probably spoke Greek. I think it's too much of a stretch to carry this through the Ottoman Empire however.
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Sep 8, 2014 05:10
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But The Third Rome fell in 1945...
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Sep 8, 2014 05:11
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i am the king of rum
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Sep 8, 2014 05:13
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The end of the Ottoman Empire was pretty pathetic, I'll stick with Constantine XI and his badass defense of Constantinople in 1453, thanks. Plus we all know the US is the real Rome 2.0
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Sep 8, 2014 05:14
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i would also argue that pangaea still exists op
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Sep 8, 2014 05:19
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Mustang posted:The end of the Ottoman Empire was pretty pathetic, I'll stick with Constantine XI and his badass defense of Constantinople in 1453, thanks. Regardless, it's a mind trip to reconsider history in light of Rome lasting until the 1490s (or the 1920s as I propose).
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Sep 8, 2014 05:20
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those janissaries must have made one hell of a kebab
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Sep 8, 2014 05:24
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pretty sure this is nobodies business but the Turks
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Sep 8, 2014 05:34
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Not true, I just took the decision to declare a new roman empire after the byzantine empire retook rome
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Sep 8, 2014 05:40
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The Roman Empire fell in 1453 you peon and I don't give a gently caress about some bullshit "Sultanate of Rum" title.
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Sep 8, 2014 05:40
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gently caress SNEEP posted:pretty sure this is nobodies business but the Turks
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Sep 8, 2014 05:47
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it ended in 2005 you uncultured gently caress
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Sep 8, 2014 05:48
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According to Philip K Dick, the Roman Empire never fell because time stopped sometime in the 1st century AD and everything since has been a vast holographic illusion.
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Sep 8, 2014 05:54
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ottomans arent romans stupid
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Sep 8, 2014 05:57
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muscles like this? posted:According to Philip K Dick, the Roman Empire never fell because time stopped sometime in the 1st century AD and everything since has been a vast holographic illusion. this is actually true
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Sep 8, 2014 06:00
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Parallax Scroll posted:ottomans arent romans stupid
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Sep 8, 2014 06:01
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Rome lives on through the United States of America! 
MizPiz fucked around with this message at 06:04 on Sep 8, 2014 |
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Sep 8, 2014 06:02
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muscles like this? posted:According to Philip K Dick, the Roman Empire never fell because time stopped sometime in the 1st century AD and everything since has been a vast holographic illusion. whoah - neo
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Sep 8, 2014 06:04
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The Roman Empire ended in 1914, the year World War 1 commenced. That was also the year that Jesus Christ (under the authority of his father Jehovah) assumed his throne in heaven and cast Satan and his demons down to the confines of the earth. Ever since then, the Anglo-American (the 7th world power spoken of in the bible) world power has been in prominence but has been slowly weakening in it's influence worldwide. World events are maneuvering to soon usher in God's Kingdom to rule over deserving mankind, eliminating man's futile attempts at self-governing once and for all. Very soon, this world will be a physical and spiritual paradise. It will be a modern-day Eden with everything we need to live full and happy lives. This will include free Internet.
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Sep 8, 2014 06:06
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It really ended in 312 because no bitch assed jesus lover could be a true roman.
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Sep 8, 2014 06:07
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cue goons "no sultanate of rum can't be rome because they're brown", anyways the HRE lasted until Napoleon, and arguably the German empire that succeeded it could be thought of as still "Rome" under a "Caesar" (which ended about the same time as the Ottoman Empire anyways), or pre-Revolutionary France which was another nation that arose from the Carolignian Empire, basically all of Europe, Anatolia and the Levant is one huge backwater of Rome
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Sep 8, 2014 06:08
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the Roman Empire lives on in the seat of St Peter, and the gates of hell will never prevail against it
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Sep 8, 2014 06:10
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First Bass posted:cue goons "no sultanate of rum can't be rome because they're brown", anyways the HRE lasted until Napoleon, and arguably the German empire that succeeded it could be thought of as still "Rome" under a "Caesar" (which ended about the same time as the Ottoman Empire anyways), or pre-Revolutionary France which was another nation that arose from the Carolignian Empire, basically all of Europe, Anatolia and the Levant is one huge backwater of Rome i guess if you want to just call whatever you want rome then yeah it lives on bitches
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Sep 8, 2014 06:12
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the third rome was moscow, and that ended in 1918. basically "rome" just means "orthodox christian empire"
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Sep 8, 2014 06:15
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Considering pre-rome europe was a bunch of backwards as gently caress tree fuckers and now western civ rules the globe i'd say we still rockin that roman poo poo.
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Sep 8, 2014 06:16
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yo teach i need to go to the bathroom can i get a hall pass?
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Sep 8, 2014 06:22
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Sep 8, 2014 06:34
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MizPiz posted:Rome lives on through the United States of America! This unironically. America is the new Rome, the better Rome.
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Sep 8, 2014 06:38
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its safe to say that the Free Empire of America wont last as long
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Sep 8, 2014 06:39
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Parallax Scroll posted:ottomans arent romans stupid Look, who's giving the report? You chowderheads... or the OP?!
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Sep 8, 2014 06:39
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quakster posted:its safe to say that the Free Empire of America wont last as long
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Sep 8, 2014 06:41
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a hole-y ghost posted:yeah well those shitass Romans didn't go down with half of the world in a nuclear fireball like we will so who's the real winner
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Sep 8, 2014 06:46
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Sep 8, 2014 07:06
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Doesn't matter, Italy got curbstomped twice in WW1 and WW2 and now they are paying the price for inventing fascism by being broke all the time and answering to whatever the rest of Europe wants.
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Sep 8, 2014 07:41
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pff no true roman would bow to bitch rear end germanian barbarians
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Sep 8, 2014 07:45
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The byzantines were pretty cool though. The ottomans were ok, but the byzantines had some good poo poo.
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Sep 8, 2014 07:46
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Broenheim posted:The byzantines were pretty cool though. The ottomans were ok, but the byzantines had some good poo poo. its rome, motherfucker, not byzantium. get out of here w/ that punkass franco-gibbon poo poo.
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Sep 8, 2014 08:01
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paranoid randroid posted:its rome, motherfucker, not byzantium. get out of here w/ that punkass franco-gibbon poo poo. Rome was pretty cool too
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