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Doesn't Ray Rice suck now anyway? What would have been the harm in cutting his rear end?
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I mean we're not that much better since we did the same thing with Ben, but I guess if you play a sport well it's okay to do horrible things and escape ins unscathed.
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Sep 8, 2014 15:08
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Kalli posted:The league at least claimed to have watched it. It's going to be a hard case to prosecute since it's doubtful the wife is willing to make a complaint much less testify against him. Also, police don't have a good history with being good on domestic violence to begin with.
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Kull the Conqueror posted:All true, but Donald Sterling was also always awful and a damning piece of media can work wonders on public opinion/discourse. The players drove that. If it weren't for their stance the league wouldn't have done a drat thing. I don't see the NFL players doing that type of thing here.
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Sep 8, 2014 15:09
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colin cowherd: world's whitest man Anyway so guys I heard Janay Palmer broke Rice's orbital socket and he had to defend himself from her berserker rage. Highly plausible scenario
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Sep 8, 2014 15:09
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Ehud posted:Colin Cowherd just blamed video games for young men committing violent acts. Colin Cowherd trolls at a level us here at TFF can only dream of.
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Ehud posted:Colin Cowherd just blamed video games for young men committing violent acts. Ray Rice was playing too much Blitz: The League, I guess. I assume you can punch women in that game, I only remember being able to do steroids. What does the media have to gain from being horrible shitheads about this? I don't even understand how people can still think defending any aspect of this is okay, or shifting the blame anywhere other than on Ray Rice's lovely fist.
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Sep 8, 2014 15:09
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Why does anyone bother with a shock jock?
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Ehud posted:Colin Cowherd just blamed video games for young men committing violent acts. When I think professional football player, I too make the immediate association with "video game player."
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PupsOfWar posted:colin cowherd: world's whitest man Armed with the elevator
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Colin Cowherd says and does dumb poo poo for exactly the reaction you fuckers give every single time. I don't understand why more people cannot see this.
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Sep 8, 2014 15:12
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Kull the Conqueror posted:All true, but Donald Sterling was also always awful and a damning piece of media can work wonders on public opinion/discourse. This. There are people who will buy the line about "She hit him first," roll their eyes, and write it off as a "truth in the middle" situation with a twist that he's a total rear end in a top hat. Showing that she was not only defending herself from the first punch but was knocked out by a second leaves no ambiguity, however small, of how hosed up this is. Plus, the public directly witnessing it helps drive home the point through people's thick skulls that, hey, this guy is a rage filled psychopath and not just someone who "made a mistake and is very sorry."
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sportsgenius86 posted:Colin Cowherd says and does dumb poo poo for exactly the reaction you fuckers give every single time. Why I have to click that link to see what all the hubbub is about? WELL I NEVER
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Chokes McGee posted:This. There are people who will buy the line about "She hit him first," roll their eyes, and write it off as a "truth in the middle" situation. Showing that she was not only defending herself from the first punch but was knocked out by a second leaves no ambiguity, however small, of how hosed up this is. The problem is that it's going to have to hit the wallet before anything more happens. People might be more outraged but until there's an internal movement or fans revolt in great enough numbers to harm the product (spoiler, this will never happen), there's not going to be a whole lot more than what's already been done.
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sportsgenius86 posted:Colin Cowherd says and does dumb poo poo for exactly the reaction you fuckers give every single time. I mean I do see it, but it was still funny.
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ESPN just reported: The NFL claims that police did not provide the video from inside the elevator. So, this ultra-powerful corporate entity could not acquire the video, or at least request it. 
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Knowing what we know now I can't help but laugh at the Ravens fans that gave Ray Rice a standing ovation. They 100% support a man that knocks a woman out cold. Great job Ravens fanbase!Dr_Strangelove posted:ESPN just reported: The NFL claims that police did not provide the video from inside the elevator. So, this ultra-powerful corporate entity could not acquire the video, or at least request it. Bullshit. They're just trying to save face.
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illcendiary posted:I'm kinda glad that they sat on the tape. Now the NFL ends up with even more egg on their face Yeah, the timing of the release is bad for the league. Everyone was basking in the warmth of footbaw's return, Goodell was probably confident this poo poo was over, and now this comes out the first Monday of the year to dampen everyone's mood.
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sportsgenius86 posted:The problem is that it's going to have to hit the wallet before anything more happens. People might be more outraged but until there's an internal movement or fans revolt in great enough numbers to harm the product (spoiler, this will never happen), there's not going to be a whole lot more than what's already been done. You'd be surprised. That's twice now Goodell has been hit in the face with his own stupidity (replacement refs, the original Rice incident) and, after a couple of weeks of intense negative press, had to walk back or surrender on his position. I seriously think this is going to cost Goodell his job. Maybe not right away, but the furor will get to a point where the owners feel seriously threatened that sales are going to go south and will send him to the guillotine to save face.
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Chokes McGee posted:You'd be surprised. That's twice now Goodell has been hit in the face with his own stupidity (replacement refs, the original Rice incident) and, after a couple of weeks of intense negative press, had to walk back or surrender on his position.  That's never going to happen. Goodell makes them money hand over fist with his idiocy, he has a job as long as the money rolls in. And the money will continue to roll in because a) most NFL fans aren't Ravens fans and b) the season's already started so this will be buried once MNF happens tonight.
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sportsgenius86 posted:Colin Cowherd says and does dumb poo poo for exactly the reaction you fuckers give every single time. I agree with you in terms of Skip Bayless, but I think Cowherd is serious most of the time. I cannot believe the NFL couldn't get a hold of that video. That seems impossible.
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Just loving fire him. Even if the suspension isn't or can't be raised. Even if he gets picked up by some other team and remains in the league. I don't give a poo poo. Fire him.
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He won't get fired and when he retires he will eventually be elected to the Hall of Fame.
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axeil posted:b) the season's already started so this will be buried once MNF happens tonight. lol nope. They'll try, but with ESPN of all people picking it up and condemning it to all gently caress, it's not just going to conveniently disappear. If the response to this is enough apathy that nothing happens, then burn down the entire goddamn world. I don't think it will, though—not because I trust people, but because I'm pragmatic. I don't see any way this ends without some major changes being made beyond policy.
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Chokes McGee posted:You'd be surprised. That's twice now Goodell has been hit in the face with his own stupidity (replacement refs, the original Rice incident) and, after a couple of weeks of intense negative press, had to walk back or surrender on his position. If the players really want him gone, now is the perfect time to pounce.
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That's a travesty considering the majority of what Goodell's done during his tenure has been downright bad. He just happened to luck into a job that makes money hand-over-fist despite him. Ray Rice deserves to be fired, or at least have a suspension MUCH longer than two games. Smoking weed gets you a year, yet knocking your fiancee out cold in an elevator gets you two? What a loving joke.
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Ehud posted:I agree with you in terms of Skip Bayless, but I think Cowherd is serious most of the time. Bayless is an act. If you watch "Pony Excuss" he's a very different guy, and really knowledgeable about the subject at hand. ESPN asks him to play the roll of a troll, and well...that's how he makes his money. Cowherd is a racist douche bag. He's legitimately that dumb, and gets away with this garbage because he's an ESPN company man.
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I don't think people understand Skip Bayless is well-aware of the role he plays on TV and is actually a very intelligent man when outside of that role. Think of his ESPN persona akin to a WWE heel wrestler. If you watch his shows with that in mind he's great at being a heel. He should be a WWE manager when he's finished trolling sports fans.
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Kirios posted:I don't think people understand Skip Bayless is well-aware of the role he plays on TV and is actually a very intelligent man when outside of that role. Think of his ESPN persona akin to a WWE heel wrestler. If you watch his shows with that in mind he's great at being a heel. He should be a WWE manager when he's finished trolling sports fans. "My client, Ray Rice, conquered his wife's undefeated streak in Atlantic City!"
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Reminder that last night after the 49ers game, Bayless tweeted that he was impressed with the Cowboys performance and already thinks they'll take the division.
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Kirios posted:I don't think people understand Skip Bayless is well-aware of the role he plays on TV and is actually a very intelligent man when outside of that role. Think of his ESPN persona akin to a WWE heel wrestler. If you watch his shows with that in mind he's great at being a heel. He should be a WWE manager when he's finished trolling sports fans. He even mugs for the camera. When the do the split screen with Stephen A, watch Skip's face. He does all these comical expressions like a 20's silent film actor. It rules. As for Goodell, I think he should pay Brett Favre $50 to issue a statement saying, "Gosh, I really miss football. I've been tossing the old pigskin to some local high school WRs and it feels great!" Suddenly ESPN will totally ignore Rice and the heat will be off Goodell.
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Kirios posted:I don't think people understand Skip Bayless is well-aware of the role he plays on TV and is actually a very intelligent man when outside of that role. Think of his ESPN persona akin to a WWE heel wrestler. If you watch his shows with that in mind he's great at being a heel. He should be a WWE manager when he's finished trolling sports fans. The problem with that analogy is that the heel is supposed to be opposed by a face[good guy], and that the face is supposed to give the heel his comeuppance. First Take has Steven A Smith.
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Kalli posted:Yeah, seeing the reaction from fairly reserved NFL guys like Jay Glazer Note Jay Glazer's twitter profile URL is set to punching.com, his workout system to help you punch better.
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http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=11486972&ex_cid=espnsoc Maybe stop using the "black eye" reference though.
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korrandark posted:The problem with that analogy is that the heel is supposed to be opposed by a face[good guy], and that the face is supposed to give the heel his comeuppance. First Take has Steven A Smith. Nope, I hope Brock Lesnar never loses and continues to beat John Cena's face in.
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It just kind of sucks because they will never get a more clear cut case to really make an example of. Domestic violence is so difficult to prove in the legal system and some people will never agree with any suspension without a conviction. But here they had a loving clear as day video to cut loose on and they hosed it up.
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Kalli posted:Yeah, seeing the reaction from fairly reserved NFL guys like Jay Glazer and Andy Staples, this is probably going to go really poorly for the league. Adam Schefter was really pissed at the NFL on Sportscenter this morning, like it looked like his eyes were welting up he was so mad.
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quote:NFL spokesman Greg Aiello says the NFL had not seen the video of Ray Rice knocking out his then-fiancee in a New Jersey elevator when it suspended Rice two games for domestic violence. I really doubt that Goodell reopens this. He should, but I'm sure there's some poo poo about it in the CBA. Congrats Ray Rice on beating the system and your wife.
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