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Denim Dude
Feb 21, 2006
I suggest tree
i got probated for shamefully bad posting itt last night. i would just like to apologize to everyone who had to see it.

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Uncle Wemus
Mar 4, 2004

gg supporter threatened with death WHERE ARE THE ARTICLES, KOTAKU
https://twitter.com/ForemanErik/status/522529173705736192

The Snark
May 19, 2008

by Cowcaster
Eh, wouldn't be the first but that is an awkward threat. Do people really send addresses to people and say 'This is the right address.' Are they trying to convince their victim that even if they hosed up the address it is in fact still the real address?

Bonus Points for using the name Jack Ryan. No one intimidates like young Captain Kirk trying to be James Bond.

The Snark fucked around with this message at 07:25 on Oct 16, 2014

circ dick soleil
Sep 27, 2012

by zen death robot
I just pooped.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tn4D0g1Hs4I

Assepoester
Jul 18, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 11 years!
Melman v2
The New York Times front page! We did it! Goon-started drama has hit the NYT!

https://twitter.com/femfreq/status/522625684099710976



http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/16/technology/gamergate-women-video-game-threats-anita-sarkeesian.html
  • Anita Sarkeesian, a feminist cultural critic, has for months received death and rape threats from opponents of her recent work challenging the stereotypes of women in video games. Bomb threats for her public talks are now routine. One detractor created a game in which players can click their mouse to punch an image of her face.

    Not until Tuesday, though, did Ms. Sarkeesian feel compelled to cancel a speech, planned at Utah State University. The day before, members of the university administration received an email warning that a shooting massacre would be carried out at the event. And under Utah law, she was told, the campus police could not prevent people with weapons from entering her talk.

    “This will be the deadliest school shooting in American history, and I’m giving you a chance to stop it,” said the email, which bore the moniker Marc Lépine, the name of a man who killed 14 women in a mass shooting in Montreal in 1989 before taking his own life.

    The threats against Ms. Sarkeesian are the most noxious example of a weekslong campaign to discredit or intimidate outspoken critics of the male-dominated gaming industry and its culture. The instigators of the campaign are allied with a broader movement that has rallied around the Twitter hashtag #GamerGate, a term adopted by those who see ethical problems among game journalists and political correctness in their coverage. The more extreme threats, though, seem to be the work of a much smaller faction and aimed at women. Major game companies have so far mostly tried to steer clear of the vitriol, leading to calls for them to intervene.

    While the online attacks on women have intensified in the last few months, the dynamics behind the harassment go back much further. They arise from larger changes in the video game business that have redefined the audience for its products, expanding it well beyond the traditional young, male demographic. They also reflect the central role games play in the identity of many fans.

    “That sense of being marginalized by the rest of society, and that sense of triumph when you’re recognized,” said Raph Koster, a veteran game developer. “Gamers have had that for quite a while.”

    Mr. Koster has experienced the fury that has long lurked in parts of the game community. In the late 1990s, when he was the lead designer for Ultima Online, a pioneering multiplayer web-based game, he received anonymous hate messages for making seemingly small changes in the game.

    After an electrical fire at his house, someone posted a note on Mr. Koster’s personal website saying he wished the game designer had died in the blaze.

    The malice directed recently at women, though, is more intense, invigorated by the anonymity of social media and bulletin boards where groups go to cheer each other on and hatch plans for action. The atmosphere has become so toxic, say female game critics and developers, that they are calling on big companies in the $70-billion-a-year video game business to break their silence.

    “Game studios, developers and major publishers need to vocally speak up against the harassment of women and say this behavior is unacceptable,” Ms. Sarkeesian said in an interview.

    Representatives for several major game publishers — Electronic Arts, Activision Blizzard and Take-Two Interactive Software — declined to comment.

    “Threats of violence and harassment are wrong,” the Entertainment Software Association, the main lobbying group for big game companies, said in a statement. “They have to stop. There is no place in the video game community — or our society — for personal attacks and threats.”

    On Wednesday, as word of the latest threat against Ms. Sarkeesian circulated online, the hashtag #StopGamerGate2014 became a trending topic on Twitter. The term #GamerGate was popularized on the social media service over the past two months after an actor, Adam Baldwin, used it to describe what he and others viewed as corruption among journalists who cover the game industry. People using the term have been criticizing popular game sites for running articles and opinion columns sympathetic to feminist critics of the industry, denouncing them as “social justice warriors.”

    In a phone interview, Mr. Baldwin, who said he was not an avid gamer himself but has done voice work for the popular Halo games and others, said he did not condone the harassment of Mr. Sarkeesian and others.

    “GamerGate distances itself by saying, ‘This is not what we’re about,’ ” said Mr. Baldwin. “We’re about ethics in journalism.”

    While harassment of Ms. Sarkeesian and other women in the video game business has been an issue for years, it intensified in August when the former boyfriend of an independent game developer, Zoe Quinn, wrote a rambling online essay, accusing her of having a relationship with a video game journalist.

    That essay, in turn, fueled threats of violence against Ms. Quinn, who had designed an unconventional game about depression, and gave fodder to those suspicious of media bias in the industry. The game review site Kotaku, which employed the journalist named in the accusation, said he had not written about her game. Ms. Quinn said that she had left her home and not returned because of harassment.

    And last week an independent game developer in Boston, Brianna Wu, said she was driven from her home by threats of violence after she poked fun at supporters of #GamerGate on Twitter. “From the top down in the video game industry,” she said, “you have all these signals that say, ‘This is a space for men.’ ”

    Gaming — or at least who plays video games — is quickly changing, though. According to the Electronic Software Association, 48 percent of game players in the United States are women, a figure that has grown as new opportunities to play games through mobile devices, social networks and other avenues have proliferated. Game developers, however, continue to be mostly male: In a survey conducted earlier this year by the International Game Developers Association, a nonprofit association for game developers, only 21 percent of respondents said they were female.

    Still, game companies have made some progress in their depiction of women in games, said Kate Edwards, the executive director of the association, who works with companies to discourage them from employing racial and sexual stereotypes in their games. A game character she praises is the new version of Lara Croft, the heroine of the Tomb Raider series who once epitomized the exaggerated, busty stereotype of a female game protagonist. The new Lara Croft is more emotionally complex and modestly proportioned.

    Ms. Edwards said changes in games and the audience around them have been difficult for some gamers to accept.

    “The entire world around them has changed,” she said. “Whether they realize it or not, they’re no longer special in that way. Everyone is playing games.”





The threat is clearly coming from inside the Sarkesian. We're onto you Anita!!!!!!





Is it the jewssssssssssss?






Patton Oswalt finds it really easy to troll GamerGate on twitter








Why were so many people driving Gamergate hostile to Anita when she posted a video in the middle of everything then complained about harrassment?

Looking at old tweet threads about GB from 2 months back. Checkin to see if ppl who harassed Samantha then are pro-GG now. So far? yep. yep.

Almost all of the worst offenders' accounts are now suspended. The three that weren't? All GG. Their handles: AngelSage, nickmare2, Bendilin

So, just in case you weren't totally sure whether GG people were the same people who harassed us two months ago. They are. Literally.

Bendilin is the one who made the "punch Anita" game








TotalBiscuit: still angry after all these years

When the dust settles, remember who it was that fed their own readership to the wolves. I will.






Let's pressure publishers to not give review copies to outlets that reviewed their game poorly!

https://twitter.com/PixieJenni/status/522486272305410049







Zoe continues to slapfight with SJW/skeleton channers

https://twitter.com/TheQuinnspiracy/status/522509904347545600







Bill Gates' acolytes support from the shadows:










No one can pronounce Anita's last name so the more cable news coverage this gets the better

Dapper Dan
Dec 16, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 3 years!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3W0klg3MzE

Assepoester
Jul 18, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 11 years!
Melman v2
"anyone with a pony avatar will have their comment deleted and their lunch money stolen"

What egregious forums censorship!

Pirate Jet
May 2, 2010

Dapper Dan
Dec 16, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 3 years!

Cardboard Box A posted:

"anyone with a pony avatar will have their comment deleted and their lunch money stolen"

What egregious forums censorship!

haha, i didn't even notice that

Uncle Wemus
Mar 4, 2004

Cardboard Box A posted:

Bomb threats for her public talks are now routine.

have her other talks gotten threats?

kindermord
Jun 5, 2003
ducks is chickens with swimmy toes

hahaha zoe must be so pissed at skeezian jumping in to hog the limelight

Fansy
Feb 26, 2013

I GAVE LOWTAX COOKIE MONEY TO CHANGE YOUR STUPID AVATAR GO FUCK YOURSELF DUDE
Grimey Drawer
Why does the NYTimes have a problem with our movement that stands against social justice?

Fansy
Feb 26, 2013

I GAVE LOWTAX COOKIE MONEY TO CHANGE YOUR STUPID AVATAR GO FUCK YOURSELF DUDE
Grimey Drawer

Cardboard Box A posted:

The New York Times front page! We did it! Goon-started drama has hit the NYT!

https://twitter.com/femfreq/status/522625684099710976



http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/16/technology/gamergate-women-video-game-threats-anita-sarkeesian.html
  • Anita Sarkeesian, a feminist cultural critic, has for months received death and rape threats from opponents of her recent work challenging the stereotypes of women in video games. Bomb threats for her public talks are now routine. One detractor created a game in which players can click their mouse to punch an image of her face.

    Not until Tuesday, though, did Ms. Sarkeesian feel compelled to cancel a speech, planned at Utah State University. The day before, members of the university administration received an email warning that a shooting massacre would be carried out at the event. And under Utah law, she was told, the campus police could not prevent people with weapons from entering her talk.

    “This will be the deadliest school shooting in American history, and I’m giving you a chance to stop it,” said the email, which bore the moniker Marc Lépine, the name of a man who killed 14 women in a mass shooting in Montreal in 1989 before taking his own life.

    The threats against Ms. Sarkeesian are the most noxious example of a weekslong campaign to discredit or intimidate outspoken critics of the male-dominated gaming industry and its culture. The instigators of the campaign are allied with a broader movement that has rallied around the Twitter hashtag #GamerGate, a term adopted by those who see ethical problems among game journalists and political correctness in their coverage. The more extreme threats, though, seem to be the work of a much smaller faction and aimed at women. Major game companies have so far mostly tried to steer clear of the vitriol, leading to calls for them to intervene.

    While the online attacks on women have intensified in the last few months, the dynamics behind the harassment go back much further. They arise from larger changes in the video game business that have redefined the audience for its products, expanding it well beyond the traditional young, male demographic. They also reflect the central role games play in the identity of many fans.

    “That sense of being marginalized by the rest of society, and that sense of triumph when you’re recognized,” said Raph Koster, a veteran game developer. “Gamers have had that for quite a while.”

    Mr. Koster has experienced the fury that has long lurked in parts of the game community. In the late 1990s, when he was the lead designer for Ultima Online, a pioneering multiplayer web-based game, he received anonymous hate messages for making seemingly small changes in the game.

    After an electrical fire at his house, someone posted a note on Mr. Koster’s personal website saying he wished the game designer had died in the blaze.

    The malice directed recently at women, though, is more intense, invigorated by the anonymity of social media and bulletin boards where groups go to cheer each other on and hatch plans for action. The atmosphere has become so toxic, say female game critics and developers, that they are calling on big companies in the $70-billion-a-year video game business to break their silence.

    “Game studios, developers and major publishers need to vocally speak up against the harassment of women and say this behavior is unacceptable,” Ms. Sarkeesian said in an interview.

    Representatives for several major game publishers — Electronic Arts, Activision Blizzard and Take-Two Interactive Software — declined to comment.

    “Threats of violence and harassment are wrong,” the Entertainment Software Association, the main lobbying group for big game companies, said in a statement. “They have to stop. There is no place in the video game community — or our society — for personal attacks and threats.”

    On Wednesday, as word of the latest threat against Ms. Sarkeesian circulated online, the hashtag #StopGamerGate2014 became a trending topic on Twitter. The term #GamerGate was popularized on the social media service over the past two months after an actor, Adam Baldwin, used it to describe what he and others viewed as corruption among journalists who cover the game industry. People using the term have been criticizing popular game sites for running articles and opinion columns sympathetic to feminist critics of the industry, denouncing them as “social justice warriors.”

    In a phone interview, Mr. Baldwin, who said he was not an avid gamer himself but has done voice work for the popular Halo games and others, said he did not condone the harassment of Mr. Sarkeesian and others.

    “GamerGate distances itself by saying, ‘This is not what we’re about,’ ” said Mr. Baldwin. “We’re about ethics in journalism.”

    While harassment of Ms. Sarkeesian and other women in the video game business has been an issue for years, it intensified in August when the former boyfriend of an independent game developer, Zoe Quinn, wrote a rambling online essay, accusing her of having a relationship with a video game journalist.

    That essay, in turn, fueled threats of violence against Ms. Quinn, who had designed an unconventional game about depression, and gave fodder to those suspicious of media bias in the industry. The game review site Kotaku, which employed the journalist named in the accusation, said he had not written about her game. Ms. Quinn said that she had left her home and not returned because of harassment.

    And last week an independent game developer in Boston, Brianna Wu, said she was driven from her home by threats of violence after she poked fun at supporters of #GamerGate on Twitter. “From the top down in the video game industry,” she said, “you have all these signals that say, ‘This is a space for men.’ ”

    Gaming — or at least who plays video games — is quickly changing, though. According to the Electronic Software Association, 48 percent of game players in the United States are women, a figure that has grown as new opportunities to play games through mobile devices, social networks and other avenues have proliferated. Game developers, however, continue to be mostly male: In a survey conducted earlier this year by the International Game Developers Association, a nonprofit association for game developers, only 21 percent of respondents said they were female.

    Still, game companies have made some progress in their depiction of women in games, said Kate Edwards, the executive director of the association, who works with companies to discourage them from employing racial and sexual stereotypes in their games. A game character she praises is the new version of Lara Croft, the heroine of the Tomb Raider series who once epitomized the exaggerated, busty stereotype of a female game protagonist. The new Lara Croft is more emotionally complex and modestly proportioned.

    Ms. Edwards said changes in games and the audience around them have been difficult for some gamers to accept.

    “The entire world around them has changed,” she said. “Whether they realize it or not, they’re no longer special in that way. Everyone is playing games.”





The threat is clearly coming from inside the Sarkesian. We're onto you Anita!!!!!!





Is it the jewssssssssssss?






Patton Oswalt finds it really easy to troll GamerGate on twitter








Why were so many people driving Gamergate hostile to Anita when she posted a video in the middle of everything then complained about harrassment?

Looking at old tweet threads about GB from 2 months back. Checkin to see if ppl who harassed Samantha then are pro-GG now. So far? yep. yep.

Almost all of the worst offenders' accounts are now suspended. The three that weren't? All GG. Their handles: AngelSage, nickmare2, Bendilin

So, just in case you weren't totally sure whether GG people were the same people who harassed us two months ago. They are. Literally.

Bendilin is the one who made the "punch Anita" game








TotalBiscuit: still angry after all these years

When the dust settles, remember who it was that fed their own readership to the wolves. I will.






Let's pressure publishers to not give review copies to outlets that reviewed their game poorly!

https://twitter.com/PixieJenni/status/522486272305410049







Zoe continues to slapfight with SJW/skeleton channers

https://twitter.com/TheQuinnspiracy/status/522509904347545600







Bill Gates' acolytes support from the shadows:



No one can pronounce Anita's last name so the more cable news coverage this gets the better

ThePlague-Daemon
Apr 16, 2008

~Neck Angels~

The Snark posted:

Bonus Points for using the name Jack Ryan. No one intimidates like young Captain Kirk trying to be James Bond.

I think you mean Alec Baldwin and Harrison Ford :colbert:

also Ben Affleck I guess? I didn't watch that one

Tezzor
Jul 29, 2013
Probation
Can't post for 3 years!
why is the media so biased against us? think about all the criminal corruption our ostensibly anti-corruption movement has unearthed, such as

Tezzor
Jul 29, 2013
Probation
Can't post for 3 years!
without googling it i'm gonna guess that vegas odds is that when nerds say "leigh alexander is racist" they mean it in the same way they say affirmative action is racist

Tiler Kiwi
Feb 26, 2011
no i dont like seeing stupid internet poo poo make the news

this is like learning your imaginary friend is real, and is holding the president at knifepoint, and he wont stop namedropping you

Elissia
Dec 28, 2012

Tiler Kiwi posted:

no i dont like seeing stupid internet poo poo make the news

this is like learning your imaginary friend is real, and is holding the president at knifepoint, and he wont stop namedropping you

Ralp
Aug 19, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Stop posting in this thread. You literally have severe mental problems if you can't stop from posting here, or think it's a good idea to post here.

Tezzor
Jul 29, 2013
Probation
Can't post for 3 years!
ok so just checked and here are the results: three tweets, one using the term "hood rat," one making fun of the drunkenness of the Irish, and one with nothing to do with racism. call me nostradamus

Ralp
Aug 19, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Forums Mental Health RULES

While we appreciate that many posters here struggle with depression and anxiety, SA's community is not designed to be a safe space or provide therapy/psychiatric advice, nor can its moderators/admins be expected to provide care for posters.

With that in mind, we're making some policy changes:

1) Stop posting in this thread.

2) Stop thinking about twitter.

3) Stop caring about gamergate.

If you would like general information about psychiatric care, you can head over to the Psychiatric Q&A Megathread in The Goon Doctor: it is available as a resource with the caveat that it NOT be used as a therapy thread.

If you feel that you might be suicidal, we urge you to contact the Suicide Hotline at 800-273-8255 or navigate to http://www.suicidepreventionlifeline.org/ for a live chat and additional resources.

circ dick soleil
Sep 27, 2012

by zen death robot

Ion Helmet posted:

Forums Mental Health RULES

While we appreciate that many posters here struggle with depression and anxiety, SA's community is not designed to be a safe space or provide therapy/psychiatric advice, nor can its moderators/admins be expected to provide care for posters.

With that in mind, we're making some policy changes:

1) Stop posting in this thread.

2) Stop thinking about twitter.

3) Stop caring about gamergate.

If you would like general information about psychiatric care, you can head over to the Psychiatric Q&A Megathread in The Goon Doctor: it is available as a resource with the caveat that it NOT be used as a therapy thread.

If you feel that you might be suicidal, we urge you to contact the Suicide Hotline at 800-273-8255 or navigate to http://www.suicidepreventionlifeline.org/ for a live chat and additional resources.

:goatsecx:

The Snark
May 19, 2008

by Cowcaster
Like SuperMechagodzilla on games, now mods keep telling me this thread isn't fun.

Hey, can we care about antigamergate? Is that allowed?

Assepoester
Jul 18, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 11 years!
Melman v2

Uncle Wemus posted:

have her other talks gotten threats?
Yes, it's becoming a thing

http://www.thedarkmage.com/anita-sarkeesian-bomb-threat-at-gdc-awards-ceremony/

"Now I don’t want to come off as negative here, or misogynistic in any way, but isn’t just a little too coincidental that Kotaku got this exclusive scoop with the officers, and the Bomb threat? I could surmise that they orchestrated the whole ordeal to continue the war against #Gamergate, and other groups they don’t necessarily approve of at the moment."

The Snark
May 19, 2008

by Cowcaster

Tezzor posted:

without googling it i'm gonna guess that vegas odds is that when nerds say "leigh alexander is racist" they mean it in the same way they say affirmative action is racist

To be fair, it's not so much that she's racist so much as she doesn't mind saying racist things when she thinks it will hurt people she doesn't like. Leigh Alexander strikes me as first and foremost insanely hateful. I see why you two get along! At least until you have a difference of opinion on something.

Then you'll probably try to shiv each other with words.

Or you'll grovel at her feet and change your opinions to match because she's the stronger one. Which is to say, louder.

Idiot authority seems to be distributed according to volume like Orcs supposedly determine it by size.

The Snark fucked around with this message at 08:25 on Oct 16, 2014

Elissia
Dec 28, 2012

The Snark posted:

To be fair, it's not so much that she's racist so much as she doesn't mind saying racist things when she thinks it will hurt people she doesn't like. Leigh Alexander strikes me as first and foremost insanely hateful. I see why you two get along! At least until you have a difference of opinion on something.

Then you'll probably try to shiv each other with words.

Or you'll grovel at her feet and change your opinions to match because she's the stronger one. Which is to say, louder.

Idiot authority seems to be distributed according to volume like Orcs supposedly determine it by size.

i miss the days when people would shiv each other with shivs

The Snark
May 19, 2008

by Cowcaster
It WAS quieter at least.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose
ik beecock

The Snark
May 19, 2008

by Cowcaster

Cardboard Box A posted:

The New York Times front page! We did it! Goon-started drama has hit the NYT!

Generous to call it goon started, but... it IS true most of the major players were goons at some point, even if they apparently hate goons now.

Also that article is much more poorly researched than I would have expected from NYT.

Finally: How IS Sarkeesian's last name pronounced? It seems deceptively easy.

Uncle Wemus
Mar 4, 2004

https://8chan.co/gg/res/132813.html

LEARN THE TRUTH

skeevy achievements
Feb 25, 2008

by merry exmarx
the real story here is "August Traditional Media Outlet Resorts to VICE-Style Outrage Porn to Keep the Lights On"

without reading it can I assume the article goes into great detail about how Anita lives her life in constant peril, but fails to mention that no charges or arrests have been made in conjunction with all these months of "threats", or that multiple levels of law enforcement deemed that massacre threat to not be credible

also looks like the stopganergate botnet is back up

I expect many IRL meltdowns today

Uncle Wemus
Mar 4, 2004

Internaut! posted:

the real story here is "August Traditional Media Outlet Resorts to VICE-Style Outrage Porn to Keep the Lights On"

without reading it can I assume the article goes into great detail about how Anita lives her life in constant peril, but fails to mention that no charges or arrests have been made in conjunction with all these months of "threats", or that multiple levels of law enforcement deemed that massacre threat to not be credible

also looks like the stopganergate botnet is back up

I expect many IRL meltdowns today

someone go to indonesia and ask people on the streets how much they care about gamergate

The Snark
May 19, 2008

by Cowcaster
There is no point in trying to discredit Anita's fear. She may genuinely believe someone would take a shot at her, regardless of who says what. It's a simple calculation 'If they're right, I'm not in danger. If they're wrong, I could quite likely die.' which is the more cautious route to take?

I would very much like whoever sent that threat to be caught and dragged into the light.

I do wish she had continued on with her speaking engagement though, because this continues to push the message that 'threats work, be afraid, be very afraid'. I just understand if she isn't quite that brave.

The Snark fucked around with this message at 08:48 on Oct 16, 2014

Mattjpwns
Dec 14, 2006

In joyful strains then let us sing
ADVANCE AUSTRALIA FUCKED
page 911 never forget

:911: :iit: :911:

Mattjpwns fucked around with this message at 08:47 on Oct 16, 2014

AntifaSupersoldier
Jul 30, 2003

Reality is what you can get away with
Hell Gem
if you care were people post, you might be a human being - jeff foxworthy, 2014

skeevy achievements
Feb 25, 2008

by merry exmarx
ah poo poo were back to gbs? today couldn't be more perfect for hosting this thread in Games

lynch_69
Jan 21, 2001

This is the best thread on the forums.

Noyemi K
Dec 9, 2012

youll always be so sleepy when youre this tiny *plompf*
anita bLake did wtf

11/11/11

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Jul 18, 2014
DuuRrr Hurr yeea GamerGater.. Twitter, f*cking epic lmao.

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