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are people still going on about the damage to the Credibility of Games Journalism lol games journalism is advertisements and press releases. all the major magazines were wholly owned subsidiaries of games store chains or the game manufacturers, and the big websites rely on access and ads or they would not exist
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"We got invited to Gearbox HQ to watch a video of Aliens: Colonial Marines and it's shaping up to be a monster much like its titular alien. We saw the tester using an exclusive DLC rifle which is only available by pre-ordering at Gamestop: Power to the Players, and it definitely made the experience a lot more fun. At no point did I ever speak with a human being not employed in marketing."
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Sep 14, 2014 15:27
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MVP posted:Except a feminist got $100k on kickstarter to make 6 youtube videos. what does that have to do with whether or not zoe quinn banged for reviews
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Sep 15, 2014 15:34
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the next time you hear some gamer idiot crying about how anita sarkeesian got 100k to make youtube videos keep in mind that nobody gave a poo poo when the order of the stick guy got over a million dollars to print a book collection of his lovely dungeons and dragons webcomic and the rolling-in-gamer-cash penny arcade dudes got half a million to remove ads from their site for a year, including pledges like this that people actually paid for:quote:Pledge $5,000 or more quote:Pledge $7,500 or more quote:Pledge $9,999 or more Give us ten thousand dollars and we'll eat lunch with you! No, we won't cover airfare.
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Sep 15, 2014 15:42
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just did the math and penny arcade got $154,000 just from guys who gave them $1000 or more lmao
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Sep 15, 2014 15:46
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zen death robot posted:GBS still cares about this poo poo? There's a smash bros demo and this is what you fucktards think the gaming world gives a poo poo about, some nobody's loving each other over. Good poo poo guys. Epic. wow i can't wait to play literally the same game that's been pumped out since 1995
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Sep 15, 2014 23:52
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Sep 16, 2014 17:10
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Tesseraction posted:To be honest even if I wasn't a socialist I would still read and quote Marx just to enjoy how super angry people get at the idea of Marxism, especially cultural Marxism. "Cultural Marxism" is a meaningless and incoherent term that ultra-reactionaries like white supremacists made up because "political correctness" didn't sound sinister enough
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Sep 25, 2014 21:06
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Sephiroth_IRA posted:Seriously this poo poo is turning me into a conservative. I was in a class once where a guy was bragging about how he got an apple laptop (that he just goofed off with during class) with his FAFSA/Pell Grant and he used then he argued about how John Edward was really psychic. Then we had that guy in E/N a couple years ago that used all that money to buy a $2000 overkill computer so he could play skyrim while his kids lived in a disgusting trailer. Remember that the individual who steals the most from you is the boss
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Sep 25, 2014 21:48
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lynch_69 posted:I'm just waiting for Kyrie or the other ten interchangeable idiots with anime avatars who post here like their lives depend on it to start talking about biotruths. Engage them with enough careposts and sit back and watch them spout the wisdom that can only come from 20 something goons overly attached to their cartoons, games and chatrooms. lynch_69 is one of the best and most underrated posters in SA history
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Sep 25, 2014 22:34
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it's amazing to me that dudes are still legit mad and puffed up about the Sanctity of Video Games Journalism. i cant believe this woman got good reviews for her game allegedly by allgedly humping some dudes, why couldn't she do it by bribery, regulatory capture and press releases disguised as magazines the way god intended like is there any "journalism" in the world more fraudulent than "games journalism?" i bet north korea would love to have come up with the idea that all projects are assigned a score from 1-10 but in reality it's like 8-10 and no major project has ever scored under a 7.5
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Sep 25, 2014 23:06
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natetimm posted:NPR really swallowing the bait hook, line and sinker there. That's some quality use of tax money. Nope, totally not another bogus PR group trying to drum up sympathy for the sake up pushing an agenda, no siree. the amount of tax money npr receives is negligible
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Sep 25, 2014 23:20
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natetimm posted:For it being negligible they sure cry like babies when someone threatens to take it. much like your privilege
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Sep 25, 2014 23:23
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CSM posted:She didn't even get any reviews, that's the worst. Zoe Quinn's evil illumanity control of the gamer media has led to exactly one review, as far as I can see on Metacritic. And it gave her game 5/10. 90% of these Gamerz weeping about journalistic integrity would call Colonial Marines GOTY for a dry handy in an airport parking garage
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Sep 25, 2014 23:31
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natetimm posted:THis is another pedantic idiot point. Nobody is claiming she got reviews, they're claiming she got her game plugged to poo poo which she did because that group of people is a giant circle-jerk of nepotism and favoritism. nepotism and favoritism in the entertainment industry? my stars and garters
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Sep 25, 2014 23:32
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natetimm posted:It's been posted multiple times in this thread. There were at least 5 instances of the dude she was cheating with either plugging her game in articles he was writing or videos he was doing in approximately a 1 week period before all this poo poo busted loose. who gives a poo poo
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Sep 25, 2014 23:59
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"Games """" journalism """""" was never "pretty good" you idiot. OMG The Official IKEA Magazine has a pretty kickass First Look at the 2015 ottomans although I think they were a bit generous in giving the Sultan rollerbed a 9.2
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have women destroyed video gaming yet
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Sep 26, 2014 14:24
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rudatron posted:Oh? So you've dropped all pretense of this being about 'bad people'? You admit this is about suppressing the political opposition? So much for the 'thought control' talking point. Listen, I have ideological differences to the, shall we say, 'canonical SJW'. I could argue with people like zeitgeist all day, but I'm not a fool. I know how this is going to end if GG carries the day. The right has always had difficulties penetrating into the youth demographic, GG gives them a handy tool which they will exploit. Mark my words, if GG goes mainstream, people like NAACP will be marked with the label 'Social Justice Warriors'. oh, there's really no question that the rhetoric of the modern-day nerdass shithead will be the standard rhetoric of insurgent mainstream conservativism in 10 years. most redditors will be model secular republicans as soon as they have two nickels to rub together, they're pissed-off, paranoid white dudes who hate feminism, affirmative action, black people, sluts and welfare breitbart is already using almost all of their terminology. maybe 10 years is generous
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Sep 27, 2014 14:59
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lynch_69 posted:90% of the time when someone's complaining about the death of free speech they're just butthurt they can't they can't use the n-word without getting mocked for being a racist. "B-b-but black people use it all the time, why can't I? the other 10% of the time it's defending pedophiles
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Sep 27, 2014 15:10
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the misogyny in nerd culture is extremely exaggerated. sure, a non-entity allegedly blew a dude to allegedly get publicity for her project and weeks later half the internet thinks it's a scandal that gets more psychotic and conspiratorial every day as like a katamari (Video Game Reference) it rolls up every single thing shithead white dudes are mad about, from atheism+ to "cultural marxism" to fiat money. but on the other hand did you know that in one of anita sarkeesians 25 examples of how you can murder women in videogames you are penalized 100 points for doing so
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Sep 27, 2014 15:24
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Maxwell Adams posted:This entire mess have been avoided if, maybe a month ago, #gamergate got some leaders who weren't complete fuckfaces. why would "#gamergate" get any leader who isn't a piece of poo poo jackass moron? the whole thing is about using a butterfly's fart of a scandal, in which one individual working for a website might arguably need to be fired, into an utterly psychotic crusade of big-tent white-guy right-wing resentment. what justice do they seek which a Mandela could lead them to, precisely
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Sep 27, 2014 15:29
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Stabbatical posted:The Escapist owner/editor/whatever is really into viewing anti-GG as Cultural Marxism. I doubt anyone pro/anti has read any of the books he's linked, they seem pretty niche. Tezzor posted:"Cultural Marxism" is a meaningless and incoherent term that ultra-reactionaries like white supremacists made up because "political correctness" didn't sound sinister enough
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Sep 27, 2014 15:32
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Sephiroth_IRA posted:I think this is true of any movement. They usually start out well meaning but the message gets lost when the radicals and people with completely different agendas show up. Then you have one media covering the good parts and another media covering the bad. there was never any "well-meaning" version of this movement. nobody ever gave a gently caress about a minor ethical lapse between two nobodies.
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Sep 27, 2014 15:37
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gamergate was since its inception a backlash by rear end in a top hat idiots upset that people were criticizing them for being rear end in a top hat idiots. look at the "quinnspiracy theory" video by the guy with the isaac newton or whatever picture which basically kicked off this whole thing. it wasn't "i argue that bob smith should be fired from gamersite.com because he probably traded sex for publicity." his central argument, presented in the first minute or two, is that this is so important because pompous feminists and SJWs have viciously criticized poor helpless gamers but this shows that they are cynical greedy hypocrites engaged in a massive conspiracy to keep the nerd man down; and he delivers it with a barely-contained pious indignation and bitterness that would be a bit uncomfortable if the subject of his rage was not so hilariously irrelevant
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Sep 27, 2014 15:47
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am0kgonzo posted:closer to the truth you can argue that tumblrinas go way too far sometimes, but you cannot credibly argue, especially after this series of events, that all the denunciations of nerd culture as misogynist, racist, paranoid and idiotic were not fundamentally accurate
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Sep 27, 2014 16:14
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big duck equals goose posted:People don't like being called a misogynist and racist because it's a pretty big deal to throw such accusations about someone. People who enjoys a game like papers please or tropico must be, I don't know, annoyed to be labeled as monsters. please keep your critical analysis and/or discussions of the context of real-world events as they relate to the game away from my games journalism, i don't want to have to think while reading press releases telling me what to buy (everything, as it turns out) written by dudes who couldn't get hired at Highlights for Children. it's an extremely unfair imposition; nobody ever talks about subtext or context while reviewing books or movies, for example
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Sep 27, 2014 16:19
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big duck equals goose posted:Better turn in your SA card and go work out, tubby. you're pure gbs
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Sep 27, 2014 16:20
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EasternBronze posted:Does anyone have that picture of the 'progressive' panel packed to the brim with white people? racial minorities almost certainly have more important things to worry about than the embittered reactionary idiocy endemic to nerd culture, that they're not concerned with it does not mean it is something that it is something that white people made up
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Sep 27, 2014 16:23
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big duck equals goose posted:Yes, modern novels are on the same level as candy crush or watch_dogs and need to be critiqued in the same ways, lol find a critical analysis of the plot of candy crush. i'll wait. watch dogs, along with virtually every other major games blockbuster, has a plot, dialogue, characters, and is sold at least partially on its plot. its plot may not be terribly good, but neither is the plot of, say, Battleship: The Movie, but one can still notice and critique elements of that film's plot and production. modern videogames are not Pong, they tell stories, and those stories are made by humans and thus have context and subtext. this is all extremely obvious and uncontroversial stuff, i am not sure if its denial comes from autistic inability to relate story points to reality, total ignorance, or cynical denial. probably mostly the last, since the argument is from people who turn into psychotic paranoids whenever somebody criticizes what they claim are just irrelevant blinking points of light that mean nothing, have no effect on anybody, and nobody should care about
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ok so in this story it's the year 2025 and the hero's a tough as nails special forces dude with a strong Christian faith and a bitchy ex-wife who uses his children to control him and when he returned from iraq he was spit on by hippies but then he's called in by the government to suppress the rebellion of The New Black Panther Party which controls half of Michigan as a mongol-style rape horde and he uses torture to extract valuable intel which in the thrilling climax keeps Washington DC from being nuked. a movie? no, it all occurs in the videogame CODBLOPS 7, so none of that means anything whatsoever
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Sep 27, 2014 16:43
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Nebulon Gate posted:
that doesn't dispute anything you moron. people can have different interpretations of what stories mean. was there anybody who claimed that american psycho was just pixels of light on a screen and it was insane to claim it said anything about anything? i mean i know i'm talking to stem goons who get mad when the teacher makes them interpret "the raven" but again this is so basic as to be baffling even to someone accustomed to dealing with their dollar-store android obliviousness
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Sep 27, 2014 16:50
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hey thread are goons still pretending that there was ever a good "core" to this blithering conspiratorial resentful outrage
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Sep 28, 2014 07:17
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Spiky Ooze posted:people that are a part of radical feminist ideology or call themselves social justice warriors started appearing everywhere in games journalism ages ago. 
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Sep 28, 2014 18:19
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it is funny how openly crybaby nerds admit that the actual circumstances that were the genesis of their increasingly psychotic and fascist delirum, which was one nobody banging another nobody for some arguable favoritism, is basically irrelevant to their spastic outrage
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Sep 28, 2014 18:30
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NutritiousSnack posted:lol, what the gently caress is wrong with you? nothing i said had anything to do with a conspiracy or even mentioned that youtube supastar. it was an observation centered in posts in this very thread, including the one i quoted right above it, which openly state that their motivation is outrage towards feminism and sjws for crimes real and imagined. if we are mentioning internetaristocrat that was also his explicit and central motivation, expressed within the first minute or two of his video. it is clear from this unassailable fact that this really had nothing to do with the non-scandal of zoe quinn or the Attacks on the Ethical Integrity of Games Journalism, and is really just a bunch of resentful white manbabies latching on to an excuse to express their belligerence towards a culture that rightfully regards them as extremely unpleasant and stupid surplus people. more interestingly is how with each passing day the katamari of young white secular conservative resentment rolls up ever more shibboleths including not just feminism but men's rights, fiat money, vapid sluts, "cultural marxism," affirmative action, big government, etc. i am excited to see where the fascist rhetoric and imagery emerging takes us
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Triple A posted:lol @ this mad beta human being excellent post.
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Sep 28, 2014 19:00
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NutritiousSnack posted:this is partly a push against a forceful attempt to push a brand of politics down their throats, my politics, as journalism...therefore unvaild and FASCIST. Okay. actually it's somewhat fascist because of its fascist imagery, rhetoric and markers such as reaction, "iron pill," the pretense of hypermasculine strength by tiny pissed-off dweebs, the dark enlightenment, leftist social change as sinister conspiracy, belligerent racism, etc. by the way thanks for honestly admitting this is your dickless resentful backlash and has nothing whatsoever to do with Corruption in Games Journalism or whatever
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Sep 28, 2014 19:28
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natetimm posted:It's being asked for proof of things and then SJWs nitpicking them and missing the entire point because they are a bunch of pedantic asses. My links absolutely proved whatsherface was getting shitloads of positive coverage no other dev was for being in and and loving her way though that circle of nepotites. You can quibble over semantics all you want, the proof of the gamergate issues being valid is there and the only rebuttal at this point is that every gamergate supporter is a misogynist or weaponized minority. again: none of this is actually scandalous or relevant to anything. you could argue that zoe quinn, a private citizen nobody, treated her boyfriend like poo poo or that guy x from site y should have been fired for an ethical lapse, and no one would really care enough to argue except to ask why you give a poo poo. the issue, the reason why any of the gamergate turds give a poo poo, is that awful nerds see this singular non-event as part of a created narrative that allows them to express their embittered resentment and blithering outrage against their ideological enemies, largely due to their general awfulness and yes misogyny
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natetimm posted:Taking a side as a journalist is unethical. Period. He's also busy retweeting and running fluff pieces about misogyny and feminism every chance he gets. 1. every journalist takes "a side." 2. games journalism is not journalism.
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