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ashgromnies posted:it's more complicated than that, read a thread before posting in it, thanks It's absolutely required that you get your facts right before posting in GBS!
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# ? Sep 18, 2014 10:05 |
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My Q-Face posted:It's absolutely required that you get your facts right before posting in GBS!
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# ? Sep 18, 2014 10:14 |
You can get a disturbing amount of mileage out of the idea that the old testament started as an oral tradition that originated from a visit by aliens. Genesis has got weird creatures living on the earth (who eventually all disappear) and mating with the locals. You've got really weird things coming out of the sky, and angels telling us that a certain number of people are going to be saved (because the ship is only so big). Imagine you were an alien race and you wanted to come and get some creatures from the earth to rescue them from some violent event coming their way that they're too primitive to even comprehend. But you're a galactic civilisation so the time it will take for your ship to actually arrive is on the scale of thousands of years, so you want to deliver a message to whoever is going to be around when you come back. You do it by picking the toughest looking tribe of savages around and
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# ? Sep 18, 2014 10:57 |
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My Q-Face posted:It's absolutely required that you get your facts right before posting in GBS! Yeah, I got a [citation needed] once. Luckily I was able to provide the reference. But it was an I/P thing so I probably deserved it.
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# ? Sep 18, 2014 11:27 |
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Abandon posted:You can get a disturbing amount of mileage out of the idea that the old testament started as an oral tradition that originated from a visit by aliens. Genesis has got weird creatures living on the earth (who eventually all disappear) and mating with the locals. You've got really weird things coming out of the sky, and angels telling us that a certain number of people are going to be saved (because the ship is only so big). Imagine you were an alien race and you wanted to come and get some creatures from the earth to rescue them from some violent event coming their way that they're too primitive to even comprehend. But you're a galactic civilisation so the time it will take for your ship to actually arrive is on the scale of thousands of years, so you want to deliver a message to whoever is going to be around when you come back. You do it by picking the toughest looking tribe of savages around and its a cool idea and i'm pretty sure that erik daniken or something guy wrote a lot of stuff about that. i don't see how you could prove it one way or the other, though. unless i guess they came back and said "oh wow, yeah hey it's us from before uh you did what?"
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# ? Sep 18, 2014 12:46 |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erich_von_D%C3%A4niken i wonder why these hypothetical aliens would bother but i guess maybe it comes with the territory
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# ? Sep 18, 2014 12:49 |
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lonesomedwarf posted:its a cool idea and i'm pretty sure that erik daniken or something guy wrote a lot of stuff about that. i don't see how you could prove it one way or the other, though. unless i guess they came back and said "oh wow, yeah hey it's us from before uh you did what?" Isn't that the plot of Prometheus? Anyway, movies about aliens creating people are slightly more entertaining than movies based on flawed King James Bible translations of stories about Moses or Jesus or Noah, so I'm going to go with the alien thing on that basis alone.
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# ? Sep 18, 2014 12:59 |
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monkey posted:People saying "These guys have nothing to with the LaVey guys" need to check their facts. I read all of that and understood pretty much the opposite of your tl;dr. While LaVey's Church of Satan was based on self glorification and hedonism, the Satanic Temple is based on altruism and protesting superstitious non-sense. It's not more filtered out, it's a different movement, much more mature and secular.
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# ? Sep 18, 2014 13:07 |
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I'm Satanic Curious.
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# ? Sep 18, 2014 13:15 |
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Abandon posted:You can get a disturbing amount of mileage out of the idea that the old testament started as an oral tradition that originated from a visit by aliens. Genesis has got weird creatures living on the earth (who eventually all disappear) and mating with the locals. You've got really weird things coming out of the sky, and angels telling us that a certain number of people are going to be saved (because the ship is only so big). Imagine you were an alien race and you wanted to come and get some creatures from the earth to rescue them from some violent event coming their way that they're too primitive to even comprehend. But you're a galactic civilisation so the time it will take for your ship to actually arrive is on the scale of thousands of years, so you want to deliver a message to whoever is going to be around when you come back. You do it by picking the toughest looking tribe of savages around and The book of genesis is an allegory for the migration out of Africa and the changes undergone by the earth during the last ice age; the giants that copulate with humans are Neanderthals, as they were preserved in folk lore that was then solidified in the bible.
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# ? Sep 18, 2014 13:59 |
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Read this thread while listening to GHOST because they are awesome and this seems to be the same kinda vibe as their music. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8RH8RO0eR0
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# ? Sep 18, 2014 14:14 |
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IronClaymore posted:Isn't that the plot of Prometheus? Anyway, movies about aliens creating people are slightly more entertaining than movies based on flawed King James Bible translations of stories about Moses or Jesus or Noah, so I'm going to go with the alien thing on that basis alone. And the Vorlons/Shadows of Babylon 5, etc.
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# ? Sep 18, 2014 16:13 |
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i would love to see a gritty movie about the real life of jesus* where he's essentially a magic man con artist shyster like the guys in india *probably never actually existed irl
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# ? Sep 18, 2014 16:31 |
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Kanthulhu posted:The whole idea is to show the christians how annoying they are to others. If they taste their own poison maybe they will stop pushing their stupidity around so others stop doing the same to them. lol read this again as if someone else wrote it and tell me if you think that person is naive as hell
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# ? Sep 18, 2014 16:46 |
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Shadeoses posted:Okay, imagine you're an angelic being who lives in heaven. You've spent the last infinite amount of years singing various hymns and praises, and know just about nothing else. Then you get a mission to go down to Earth. What do you do? What do humans have, what do they like? Well, they mostly have faces, eyes, limbs, wings, that sort of thing. They also like material things like wheels, fire, swords, gems, livestock and metals. So if you make those part of your appearance, they will pay more attention and your mission will be a success. angels are shown in this passage to be basically god's heavenly machinery, any attribution of anthropomorphic nature to them is a misunderstanding; the angel guarding eden, for instance, is not well-differentiated from the sword which points in all directions; these angels are not well-differentiated from the chariot-throne they compose
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# ? Sep 18, 2014 17:48 |
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IronClaymore posted:Isn't that the plot of Prometheus? Anyway, movies about aliens creating people are slightly more entertaining than movies based on flawed King James Bible translations of stories about Moses or Jesus or Noah, so I'm going to go with the alien thing on that basis alone. haha if you think translational flaws matter when it comes to the bible, only beauty and power are relevant
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# ? Sep 18, 2014 17:51 |
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nomadologique posted:angels are shown in this passage to be basically god's heavenly machinery, any attribution of anthropomorphic nature to them is a misunderstanding; the angel guarding eden, for instance, is not well-differentiated from the sword which points in all directions; these angels are not well-differentiated from the chariot-throne they compose Interesting. Why is that and do you happen to have an anthropologist or biblical scholar reference for this interpretation that goes into more depth?
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# ? Sep 19, 2014 03:51 |
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LifeSizePotato posted:i would love to see a gritty movie about the real life of jesus* where he's essentially a magic man con artist shyster like the guys in india pretty much every historian agrees that he did exist
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# ? Sep 19, 2014 04:00 |
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Angels must have been scary looking (Like the pictures in this thread, rather than dudes-with-wings), because every time they appear to humans, the first words they utter is something along the lines of "Don't freak out, I'm just an angel!" Also, Satan has a theme song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcsgCqGZZj8
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# ? Sep 19, 2014 05:28 |
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dudes with wings were usually just pictures of rich dudes given wings to look awesome hundreds of years after the bible was written.
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# ? Sep 19, 2014 05:40 |
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L. Ron Hubbard was into LOLMAJICKS and cucked the poo poo out of the founder of JPL. Look at this loving cucked-rear end nerd: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Parsons_(rocket_engineer)
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# ? Sep 19, 2014 06:01 |
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Cream_Filling posted:pretty much every historian agrees that he did exist Not really. There's not a great amount of proof that he was ever a real person, certainly nothing from his lifetime. That said, there's not really much proof that Muhammad or Socrates walked the earth either. It's very plausible that Jesus did not exist, and given that the majority of Western historians have been Christ-believing Christians, saying "most historians have always accepted it" doesn't really do the idea justice. Last Buffalo fucked around with this message at 06:18 on Sep 19, 2014 |
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Cream_Filling posted:pretty much every historian agrees that he did exist lol no
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# ? Sep 19, 2014 06:11 |
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Cream_Filling posted:pretty much every historian agrees that he did exist there are also extremely compelling arguments that he didn't http://rationalrevolution.net/articles/jesus_myth_history.htm http://www.rationalrevolution.net/articles/jesus_myth_followup.htm (these are pro-reads for anyone actually interested, i've read them both a few times in their entirety over the years)
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# ? Sep 19, 2014 06:30 |
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Jesus of Nazareth, the one Jew that Cream_Filling will defend.
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# ? Sep 19, 2014 06:39 |
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Shadeoses posted:Okay, imagine you're an angelic being who lives in heaven. You've spent the last infinite amount of years singing various hymns and praises, and know just about nothing else. Then you get a mission to go down to Earth. What do you do? What do humans have, what do they like? Well, they mostly have faces, eyes, limbs, wings, that sort of thing. They also like material things like wheels, fire, swords, gems, livestock and metals. So if you make those part of your appearance, they will pay more attention and your mission will be a success. It seems like jamming all those things together haphazardly would be counterproductive I mean I like big boobies, ice cream, dogs, Sapporo brand Japanese malt liquor and jeep wranglers, but if a big titted jeep wrangler bodied icecream beer dog lady fell from the sky one day I'd poo poo my loving pants nah say'n
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# ? Sep 19, 2014 08:20 |
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saigon_15 posted:lol no jesus did exist and he was a gay black person hth
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# ? Sep 19, 2014 08:30 |
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naem posted:big titted jeep wrangler bodied icecream beer dog lady
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# ? Sep 19, 2014 08:48 |
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LifeSizePotato posted:there are also extremely compelling arguments that he didn't Yrah im not reading that but Trap sprung i guess
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# ? Sep 19, 2014 08:50 |
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Cream_Filling posted:Yrah im not reading that but says teh jesus lover with the worst av since all of moobs' avs.
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# ? Sep 19, 2014 08:52 |
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fyodor posted:says teh jesus lover with the worst av since all of moobs' avs. Lol all i ever do is point out raally boring mainstream consensus beccause goons are super ignorant of normal scholarship versus millions of words from some internet sperg on rationalist revilution dot com
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# ? Sep 19, 2014 08:56 |
time to read a site called "rational revolution" efb
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# ? Sep 19, 2014 09:06 |
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Troll Bridgington posted:jesus did exist and he was a gay black person hth
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# ? Sep 19, 2014 09:10 |
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There were for sure a lot of people called "Jesus" on that area on that time. Or Yeoshua or whatever the equivalent to Jesus in hebrew is. The thing is: was any of them the Jesus from the bible that would walk on water and raise the dead? No, of course not.
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# ? Sep 19, 2014 10:58 |
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Troll Bridgington posted:jesus did exist and he was a gay black person hth i have no idea what you're talking about Mark 14 posted:43Just as he was speaking, Judas, one of the Twelve, appeared. With him was a crowd armed with swords and clubs, sent from the chief priests, the teachers of the law, and the elders.
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# ? Sep 19, 2014 11:51 |
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im pretty sure Jesus was a very aryan man with decent american sensibilities and morals
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# ? Sep 19, 2014 11:57 |
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Gum posted:51A young man, wearing nothing but a linen garment, was following Jesus. When they seized him, 52he fled naked, leaving his garment behind. 53Also a clown was there 54Honk honk, the clown said to Jesus' followers 55And he too fled, his shoes squeaking along
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Cubone posted:53Also a clown was there 54Honk honk, the clown said to Jesus' followers 55And he too fled, his shoes squeaking along
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# ? Sep 19, 2014 14:01 |
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nomadologique posted:angels are shown in this passage to be basically god's heavenly machinery, any attribution of anthropomorphic nature to them is a misunderstanding; the angel guarding eden, for instance, is not well-differentiated from the sword which points in all directions; these angels are not well-differentiated from the chariot-throne they compose So basically, Yahweh is a deity with an army of non-humanoid robots
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Cubone posted:53Also a clown was there 54Honk honk, the clown said to Jesus' followers 55And he too fled, his shoes squeaking along
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