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Hi and welcome to the Zendo thread! Zendo is a game of deduction, where the players are divided into a single master and his students. At the start of the round, the master devises a rule and then creates two 'koans' (in real life, these are structures made by icehouse pyramid pieces), one structure fulfilling the rule and the other not fulfilling it, which he marks with stones to show which is correct and which isn't. Rules can be stuff like 'there is one and only blue blue piece' or 'only two pieces touch each other'. Then the students take turns to create their own koan. Once they built one that they think fulfills the rule, the can either say 'master' or 'mondo'. 'Master': The master places a stone to indicate if the koan built by the student fulfills the rule or not. 'Mondo': Everyone except the master gets to guess secretly if they think the koan that was built fulfills the rule or not. The master then says it if actually fulfills the rule. Any student that guesses correctly gets a guessing stone. After either saying 'master' or 'mondo', the student, if he has any guessing stones, can spend one to guess the rule. If he is correct, he wins the round and becomes the new master in the next. If he doesn't guess correctly, the master has to prove that the guess is incorrect, either by creating a koan that fulfills the master's rule and not the student's one, or one that fulfills the student's but not the master's rule. Playing it in this thread So how we are going to play this: well, we are going to make MSPaint pictures (because I'm lazy). The shapes we are going to use are big right-angled triangles, small right-angled triangles, big squares and small squares. All the shapes can be filled with the following colours: blue, red, green, yellow, cyan and magenta. Small shapes can go within big shapes. Shapes can touch. Pointing is defined as the angle furthest away from the right-angle. When using 'Mondo', use spoilers to guess the answer (no cheating). I need 5 students, first come first served, this is the first set of koans: Have fun! Players: (Guessing Stones) OmegaGoo: 3 Jon Joe: 0 MildManeredManikin: 2 Poison Mushroom: 1 Asymmetrikon: 2 Tekopo fucked around with this message at 14:20 on Sep 25, 2014 |
# ? Sep 19, 2014 00:50 |
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# ? Apr 20, 2024 05:43 |
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How long is this expected to last?
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# ? Sep 19, 2014 01:00 |
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Until someone finds the rule, we can swap people in/out after a round is complete (or people can just drop out/drop in in the middle of a round, it doesn't ruin the flow of the game).
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# ? Sep 19, 2014 01:01 |
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I enjoy Zendo, but I'm way too lazy to make and upload an MSPaint every time I want to make a guess - could we just use letters instead?
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# ? Sep 19, 2014 01:02 |
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Schizoguy posted:I enjoy Zendo, but I'm way too lazy to make and upload an MSPaint every time I want to make a guess - could we just use letters instead?
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# ? Sep 19, 2014 01:03 |
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I mean like, is this a some hour thing, some day thing, some week thing? I think I'm in regardless of the answer but I was just wondering if you had a sense of the scale.
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# ? Sep 19, 2014 01:04 |
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It's gonna be a week thing, don't mind if people take it slowly, just as long as the game keeps going.
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# ? Sep 19, 2014 01:05 |
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Tekopo posted:How would that work? Also it's not exactly works of high art "No vowels", "all the letters are in descending alphabetical order", that sort of thing.
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# ? Sep 19, 2014 01:34 |
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Schizoguy posted:"No vowels", "all the letters are in descending alphabetical order", that sort of thing.
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# ? Sep 19, 2014 01:38 |
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Oh man, I played this game back in high school. Sign me up.
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# ? Sep 19, 2014 01:40 |
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I'm in, if there's still room.
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# ? Sep 19, 2014 02:29 |
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me
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# ? Sep 19, 2014 03:45 |
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OMG ZENDO. Please? Can I play?
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# ? Sep 19, 2014 04:48 |
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Yes. Everyone that expressed an interest is now IN! Turn order decided by the first person to build a koan. GO!
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# ? Sep 19, 2014 10:15 |
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Mondo ----- No ----- Also just noticed that white wasn't on your list of colors, but I guess it is now.
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# ? Sep 19, 2014 17:31 |
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??? Where is the master's koan?
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# ? Sep 19, 2014 17:42 |
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It's in the OP.
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# ? Sep 19, 2014 17:56 |
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Oh I just thought that was an example. Reading is tech. ~~~No~~~ Emmideer fucked around with this message at 18:08 on Sep 19, 2014 |
# ? Sep 19, 2014 18:06 |
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I do not think this fulfills the rule
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# ? Sep 19, 2014 18:47 |
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I guess that it doesn't. I have no idea why I guess this, but I do.
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# ? Sep 20, 2014 00:00 |
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Who're we still waiting on?
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# ? Sep 21, 2014 21:27 |
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Asymmetrikon, but he's been given enough time. That Koan does not have the Buddha-nature. All of you that answered gain an guessing stone. Action Queue: - OmegaGoo, use guessing stone or not. - Jon Joe, create Koan after OmegaGoo had a go. Tekopo fucked around with this message at 21:37 on Sep 21, 2014 |
# ? Sep 21, 2014 21:34 |
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while we wait on Omega, I have another question it's not explicitly stated; is the stone placed if you call "master" a guessing stone? do you get a stone even if it's wrong? if it's not a guessing stone, does it have any purpose at all beyond indication? Are we made aware which stone means correct and which stone means incorrect?
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# ? Sep 21, 2014 21:44 |
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The stones are only placed IRL to mark which one is correct and which one isn't. It's not a guessing stone. It's used in the physical game just to let people remember if the old koans were correct/incorrect. And yes, in the real life game you would be made aware (usually white means correct and black incorrect). Don't worry about them for the purposes of this PBP game.
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# ? Sep 21, 2014 21:59 |
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Nope. I would like to save my stone
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# ? Sep 22, 2014 05:10 |
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Jon Joe to build the Koan then!
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# ? Sep 22, 2014 14:45 |
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MS Paint woo. Mondo. I do not believe this fulfills the rule
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# ? Sep 22, 2014 23:28 |
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Guessing it doesn't.
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# ? Sep 23, 2014 00:38 |
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Guessing no.
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# ? Sep 23, 2014 03:02 |
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I do not think this is the right koan
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# ? Sep 23, 2014 03:51 |
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!!!~~~No~~~!!!
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# ? Sep 23, 2014 04:08 |
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The koan does not have the buddha-nature. Jon Joe, use a guessing stone? Otherwise MildManeredManikin is up.
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# ? Sep 23, 2014 07:45 |
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I will use a guessing stone to guess: There are 4 shapes, of which half share the same color
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# ? Sep 24, 2014 04:38 |
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That rule is not correct. Here is the example koan to disprove the rule: Another guess or pass?
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# ? Sep 24, 2014 08:10 |
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Another guess, of course: There are four shapes, at least half of which are triangles.
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# ? Sep 24, 2014 17:58 |
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That is not the rule. Here is an example that disproves the rule: MildManeredManikin is up!
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# ? Sep 24, 2014 21:33 |
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MASTER
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# ? Sep 24, 2014 21:41 |
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That koan does not have the buddha-nature. Use your guessing stones?
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# ? Sep 24, 2014 21:42 |
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I'm not really sure how to phrase the rules but A yellow triangle points in the direction of two red shapes
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# ? Sep 24, 2014 21:52 |
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# ? Apr 20, 2024 05:43 |
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MildManeredManikin posted:I'm not really sure how to phrase the rules but A yellow triangle points in the direction of two red shapes Use another guessing stone?
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# ? Sep 24, 2014 21:58 |