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The NFL season is well underway, and while the playoff race is exciting to follow, there's an equally exciting race to see which head coaches get fired first. NFL fans have a morbid fascination with head coach firings, to the point where "Black Monday" (the day after the regular season ends and where most house-cleanings begin) becomes an annual tradition. I wanna use this thread to talk about which seats are hot, which ones are getting warmer, or which ones get cooled by a late-season run. Let's start with the coaches most likely to get canned. Dennis Allen, Oakland Raiders--  FIRED The main defense for Allen has been that he's dealing with a young rebuilding team and expectations are low. However, he's now into year three and things look as bad as ever. Despite the Raiders clearing tons of bad contracts off the books and making a bunch of splashy free agent signings, their recent draft picks haven't hit and they're looking like the same old sorry rear end Raiders. If Allen goes it will likely be a package firing with GM Reggie Mckenzie. The Raiders are still struggling to find an identity after the late Al Davis, but his son Mark Davis hasn't done much to inspire confidence. Week 5 update: After an embarrassing loss in London, the Raiders put Allen out of his misery. Tony Sparano is the interim coach and will probably bullshit his way into more HC interviews. The pressure is now on Mckenzie to find a viable replacement. Joe Philbin, Miami Dolphins It's almost a miracle that Philbin survived last year's house-cleaning after the Richie Incognito scandal made them a national punchline. Miami seems to have taken steps forward in Bill Lazor's new offense, but if they fail to make the playoffs again, it's hard to see Philbin making it another year. Doug Marrone, Buffalo Bills Marrone finds himself on this list after a disastrous preseason and reports that he's feuding with the front office over the status of EJ Manuel. Marrone reportedly committed to Manuel last year despite coaches telling him he sucked, and wasn't happy over the Bills handing Kyle Orton guaranteed money to be backup. The Bills are 2-0 right now and this could all be water under the bridge if they keep it up, but it's worth monitoring. Lovie Smith, Tampa Bay Buccaneers Talk about bad first impressions. The main narrative on Smith coming in was that he would be reinvigorated after taking a season off, implement his Tampa 2 scheme that was successful in Chicago, make a few flashy free-agent signings and then will his way to a surprise playoff run. Instead, the Bucs are 0-3, got embarrassed on national TV and Smith looks more clueless than ever. Will his experiment even last one season? Stay tuned. Jason Garrett, Dallas Cowboys Garrett was on this last the last three years, he is on it again and will probably be on this list for the next five years. He will never go away, but I'm obligated to put him here in case Jerry ever gets his senses. Rex Ryan, New York Jets Ryan was practically on his way out at the beginning of 2013, before the Jets rallied to a respectable 8-8 finish. GM John Idzik still put Ryan on notice, granting his contract extension only through this season. Ryan is a brilliant defensive mind, but after Week 2's timeout clusterfuck, will the team still trust him to run the sideline? Time will tell. If you feel like any other coaches belong here, make your case and I'll put them in the OP. In the meantime, let's all laugh at the Bucs. Tom Coughlin, New York Giants The popular theory is that Coughlin, 68, will "retire" (read: FO will gently push him out without actually firing him) once the Giants hit a rough spot. There is still time to turn things around, but early returns aren't promising after an 0-2 start. After longtime offensive coordinator Kevin Gillbride had a "graceful retirement" (see above) last year, I wouldn't be shocked if Coughlin gets the same treatment here. Benne fucked around with this message at 00:38 on Oct 6, 2014 |
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A hot seat list isn't complete without Rex Ryan. Rex Ryan, New York Jets Rex has been on the hot seat the last few years, and while he did get a contract extension last year it was only extended a single year, so he's in the exact same situation he was before. He's in some trouble, as his GM seems intent on pinching pennies rather than giving Rex a serviceable team to work with. Their loss to the Packers included a significant number of basic coaching mistakes after jumping to a 21-3 lead. If he and the team don't get their acts together it would be easy to see Rex leaving if they don't make the playoffs. sirtommygunn fucked around with this message at 05:44 on Sep 19, 2014 |
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Sep 19, 2014 05:40
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sirtommygunn posted:A hot seat list isn't complete without Rex Ryan. He hasn't really done anything noteworthy this year, but it wouldn't be a good hot seat thread without Jets drama, so I'll add him to the OP.
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Sep 19, 2014 05:42
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Tom Coughlin is due for another bullshit super bowl run that saves his job for another 4 years because gently caress everything.
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Sep 19, 2014 06:05
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Tom Coughlin is due for another bullshit super bowl run that saves his job for another 4 years because gently caress everything. As much as I wish Pats fans we're right about this, they're not. Ole Tommy is done after this year, especially if they miss the playoffs again.
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Sep 19, 2014 07:34
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Jim Harbaugh, San Fransisco 49ers In spite of how much his team keeps winning, Harbaugh is apparently on really bad terms with the Niners as a whole. The owners are tired of his theatrics and arrogance to the point that they tried to lowball him during contract negotiations and almost traded him to the Browns in the offseason. The players don't stand behind him anymore either, even though he (foolishly) went to bat for a lot players that were clearly in the wrong while staying quiet when other players needed his support. Even the fans seem to be done with him, especially since he is quickly becoming the de facto representation of the organization. Harbaugh "decided" to table contract talks until after this season, ostensibly to focus on the needs of the team, though he's probably just hoping for another NFCC or SB appearance to help him get more money. If the Niners fall short this season, there is a decent chance that he gets phased out in some fashion.
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Sep 19, 2014 07:48
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I really have a hard time seeing Lovie getting canned after one year no matter how bad they looked in one game. Outside of a few guys on defense and Vincent Jackson's twilight years there just isn't a lot of talent on the Bucs right now.
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Sep 19, 2014 08:06
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Grozz Nuy posted:I really have a hard time seeing Lovie getting canned after one year no matter how bad they looked in one game. Outside of a few guys on defense and Vincent Jackson's twilight years there just isn't a lot of talent on the Bucs right now. There is enough talent for them to be mediocre. They should've won at least one of the first two games against loving backup QBs and they sure as hell shouldn't have gotten absolutely embarrassed tonight. I don't think this team is as bad as its looked but its very clear that Lovie's still pushing a hyper conservative form of football that quite frankly has no place in the modern NFL. At some point he'll get the team back to some sort of decent level of play and they'll win ~5 games but right now things are looking worse and worse. Hopefully they'll keep McCown on the bench and the OC will come back and have a better gameplan because right now its loving rough. Also, the ST are somehow atrociously bad. They've given up a TD in some way in every game this season, I believe. Last week they had a blocked punt and a blocked FG. I mean, they're impressively bad.
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Sep 19, 2014 08:24
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Lovie's not going anywhere for at least 2 years. The Bucs just did a top down front office and roster cleaning and they're not going to blow it up again after one year just to what? Suck again next year? Lovie's safe through at least the end of the 2015-2016 season. They'll blame it on McCown, on Glennon, on Tedford, on Rainey, on Frasier or the DBs but they won't fire Lovie at the end of this year and in season isn't even a possibility.
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Sep 19, 2014 09:20
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Oh agreed. On the plus side, a quick perusal of the Tampa sports outlets are shifting towards "gently caress McCown" so we should be done with him soon.
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Sep 19, 2014 09:34
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if anyone who tries to argue some sunk cost fallacy bullshit about mccown's contract, remind them that the hawks paid $15m for matt flynn to be our starting QB and he didn't start a single game. it doesn't matter how much you spend on a turd, if you have a better choice then they need to be flushed
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Sep 19, 2014 09:39
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I look forward to Philbin being fired and Steve Ross embarrassing himself again during our next coaching search. Bonus points if Marino is involved.
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Sep 19, 2014 13:14
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Relentlessboredomm posted:Oh agreed. On the plus side, a quick perusal of the Tampa sports outlets are shifting towards "gently caress McCown" so we should be done with him soon. That game last night needed to be a massive wakeup call to Lovie. What he does with McCown says it all to me. If he sticks with him, prepare for a revolving door of offensive coordinators over the next few years and regret.
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Sep 19, 2014 14:55
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I think Pettine should be on the list for the simple fact that Haslam is unpredictable and impulsive.
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Sep 19, 2014 15:10
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Mike Smith, Atlanta Falcons The Falcons have had their longest string of success under Mike Smith, but many lay their post-season woes at the feet of his soft, unaggressive coaching style. The Falcons went to an abysmal record of 4-12 in 2013 and many believe that if the team doesn't return to double digit wins and a playoff berth, that Arthur Blank will let the best coach in Atlanta's history go (think a less disgustingly offensive Tony Dungy in TB). They've replaced major position coaches frequently in Atlanta, starting with both coordinators and now both line coaches. If further post-season failure occurs, Smith might find himself looking for another job.
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Sep 19, 2014 15:51
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Chilichimp posted:Mike Smith, Atlanta Falcons Mike Tice is at the front of the line to take over, isn't he?
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Sep 19, 2014 21:33
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Part of me thinks Coughlin is fine unless the Giants have 4 wins or less. In 2011 when things had started to go south our team was still good, far better than it looks right now, and it felt like stupid idiot fickle fans with no patience were getting mad. After the second win most people seem to be fully onboard with Coughlin even when our team looks like rear end. Remember we started 0-6 last season and we ended 7-9, and a lot of that seemed like Coughlin keeping things together even when it looked lost. If we completely tank the season I can see Coughlin being forced out, but if they end up 7-9 or 8-8 and miss the playoffs I see him lasting through 2015 when his contract ends. 2015 would be 4 years past the last Super Bowl, so expect the Giants to win everything next season. I don't see the press hounding him and calling him out right now like they were in 2007 and 2011. At this point he has the respect of everyone.
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Sep 19, 2014 21:43
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Jason Garrett is a bad coach, and dumb.
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Sep 19, 2014 21:50
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Is this the thread where I think back on poor Rob Chudzinski and how he dealt with 2 quarterback injuries and still got fired after one season, and now Lovie Smith is swearing up and down that Josh loving McCown is their quarterback yet he probably won't be fired after one season?
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Sep 19, 2014 21:57
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If you had told me last year going into week 3 of the NFL season that in 2014 Ron Rivera would not be on this list nor be fired and somehow be coach of the year in 2013 I would be asking for all of your 
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Sep 19, 2014 22:15
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After Reggie's draft this year, I'm really ok with him hanging around a couple more years. Dennis Allen though probably needs to go. I'd rather they wait until the end of the year but don't discount the Bye week.
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Sep 19, 2014 22:24
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Blitz7x posted:After Reggie's draft this year, I'm really ok with him hanging around a couple more years. Dennis Allen though probably needs to go. I'd rather they wait until the end of the year but don't discount the Bye week. I dunno about the bye. Isn't the whole point of firing your coach then to give a coordinator a shot to prove he isn't total rear end? Do you have anyone in the wings worth giving the job to?
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Sep 19, 2014 22:29
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Chichevache posted:I dunno about the bye. Isn't the whole point of firing your coach then to give a coordinator a shot to prove he isn't total rear end? Do you have anyone in the wings worth giving the job to? Tony Sparano is the O-line coach (probably the least lovely part of the team somehow) and assistant head coach. He would be the logical choice. Not that I think that's a great idea. I'd rather wait until the end of the year and start anew
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Sep 19, 2014 22:40
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Mod please retitle the thread "Lane Kiffin's future job openings"
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Sep 19, 2014 22:43
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waah posted:If you had told me last year going into week 3 of the NFL season that in 2014 Ron Rivera would not be on this list nor be fired and somehow be coach of the year in 2013 I would be asking for all of your And now he's like 14-2 over the last 16 regular season games. 
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Sep 19, 2014 22:47
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I could see Gus Bradley seeing some heat this year if the Jaguars do not improve their record over last years 4-12 showing. The roster is an absolute shithole though so I hope he gets some leeway. I imagine he'll be on the hot seat next year (year 3) if Jacksonville is still bad.
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Sep 19, 2014 22:57
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Bort Bortles posted:I could see Gus Bradley seeing some heat this year if the Jaguars do not improve their record over last years 4-12 showing. The roster is an absolute shithole though so I hope he gets some leeway. I imagine he'll be on the hot seat next year (year 3) if Jacksonville is still bad. It's seems unlikely he would be, unless it was his decision not to play Jaxson de Bort. If it was "do or die," might as well let the guy play someone other than Chad Henne.
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Sep 19, 2014 23:11
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I agree with my fellow Bucs goons, Lovie is here for another two years at least. I hope they bench McCown, run with Glennon and see how things go. Either of these I'd be happy with: 1. We pick it up, win quite a few games and finish 8-8 or 7-9. Not great, but an improvement from where we are now that will build hope. 2. We tank and get a top 3 pick. If we get pointless wins in the last few games again which costs us multiple draft positions I'll be pissed. All of this is likely a complete over reaction though.
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Sep 19, 2014 23:48
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three posted:It's seems unlikely he would be, unless it was his decision not to play Jaxson de Bort. If it was "do or die," might as well let the guy play someone other than Chad Henne. Considering how awful the Jaguars are looking this year, I would hope some pressure was on him. I really like the guy but the team is Real Bad right now. The lack of talent is not his fault and some of this can be blamed on the GM, but some of the issues are just really bad play.
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Sep 20, 2014 00:00
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Ehud posted:I look forward to Philbin being fired and Steve Ross embarrassing himself again during our next coaching search. I'm really excited to see how the Dolphins can destroy Dan Marino's legacy. I'm guessing it has to do with Dennis Hickey.. Maybe some sort of ironic reversal, like they try to find a way to hire Jim Harbaugh, fire Hickey in order to clear house. The twist is it turns out Harbaugh liked him and thought he did a good job, and they panic and try to rehire him but he's not interested because they did something else stupid and the whole deal falls through and they hire Norv Turner.
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Sep 20, 2014 00:04
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waah posted:If you had told me last year going into week 3 of the NFL season that in 2014 Ron Rivera would not be on this list nor be fired and somehow be coach of the year in 2013 I would be asking for all of your They could fire him tomorrow if it meant we could hire Malzahn.
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Sep 20, 2014 00:15
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Andio posted:I agree with my fellow Bucs goons, Lovie is here for another two years at least. Almost every Lovie season with the Bears had the team just missing the playoffs but still winning meaningless games at the end (or losing meaningful ones). It's very frustrating, so have fun! 2007: Win last two games to finish 7-9 instead of 5-11, for no point. 2008: Win 2 of the last 3, but in the win and in final game against a nonplayoff team, lose. Worst possible draft position without making playoffs. 2009: Win last two games to finish 7-9 instead of 5-11, for no point. 2011: Go from 7-3 to 7-8 to miss playoffs, then win last game to drop the draft slot. 2012: Go from 8-3 to 8-6 and out of playoffs, then win last 2 and still don't make playoffs and get worst possible draft position. Figuring 4 spots per unnecessary win, that's a cumulative of 36 spots lost in the draft in 5 years, never gaining a playoff berth. mastershakeman fucked around with this message at 00:46 on Sep 20, 2014 |
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Sep 20, 2014 00:41
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FizFashizzle posted:They could fire him tomorrow if it meant we could hire Malzahn. Gus just got outcoached by a 75 year old man who wears shoes he bought in the 80s though.
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Sep 20, 2014 00:42
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Can we add Roger Goodell to the hotseat?
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Sep 20, 2014 01:06
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Blitz7x posted:Tony Sparano is the O-line coach (probably the least lovely part of the team somehow) and assistant head coach. He would be the logical choice. Not that I think that's a great idea. I'd rather wait until the end of the year and start anew The last thing you want is for that little meatball to get the opportunity to "earn" the coaching position by cranking at a few late season meaningless wins. In-house promotions rarely ever work out.
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Sep 20, 2014 01:27
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"Josh is our starter," Smith said. "We're looking at one game right now. It would be simple if Josh was the only guy who played bad. It seems like the only guy I'm asked about is Josh."
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Sep 20, 2014 02:10
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beejay posted:"Josh is our starter," Smith said. "We're looking at one game right now. It would be simple if Josh was the only guy who played bad. It seems like the only guy I'm asked about is Josh." He has a valid point, but also Josh McCown is real bad.
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Sep 20, 2014 02:22
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beejay posted:"Josh is our starter," Smith said. "We're looking at one game right now. It would be simple if Josh was the only guy who played bad. It seems like the only guy I'm asked about is Josh." "You know the Sun will come up tommorrow"
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Sep 20, 2014 02:35
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Dexo posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFRyRzLkUHY THE HELL WITH THE SUN
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beejay posted:"Josh is our starter," Smith said. "We're looking at one game right now. It would be simple if Josh was the only guy who played bad. It seems like the only guy I'm asked about is Josh." So we should fire the guys in charge of personnel then? I don't think that's Lovie's best tact to get through this. Throw someone under the bus because otherwise it looks like he's loving incompetent.
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