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Rocksicles posted:He'll be good, just laying down the law early. Plus that baby isn't there, pretty sure we all know that. It's his little thing that keeps him alive and thinking. Well Jaha is crazy. I still can't get over that he was sober while he came up with the whole "crash the entire station from orbit and hope we know which 2% survive" plan.
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It would be cool if they tried multiple tropes at the same time. We've kind of got Fallout happening on the ground, but a space horror thing happening would also be cool. Like have it that he isn't actually alone up there. Maybe a medical experiment has escaped or something. I just can't fathom a way/reason to keep Jaha around any more otherwise. He sacrificed himself to save the others and they've even named their camp after him so he'l be referenced throughout the rest of the series. We've seen his backstory and his main reason for living (his son) is dead. Unless there's some extra McGuffin on the station he's redundant. So gently caress it. Let's go nuts and have a subplot about him on the space station that's completely unrelated to the main plot, give him a monster to fight against and if it's liked spin it off into its own series, if not kill him and focus only on the ground folks.
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Oct 26, 2014 21:57
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Party Plane Jones posted:Considering he's one person on a station that used to hold a couple thousand and in a section that had probably a hundred plus people he'd be fine for a while. The whole point of them abandoning the station was that it is totally hosed - life support has failed or is just about to, power is minimal, everything is broken and lots of people had already died thanks to former Chancellor Blondie McSuicide blasting off in a drop ship that was still attached to the Ark.
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Oct 26, 2014 22:40
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Xoidanor posted:Well Jaha is crazy. I still can't get over that he was sober while he came up with the whole "crash the entire station from orbit and hope we know which 2% survive" plan. Two percent is better than zero.
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There is a heavy stink if ulterior motives in the air when it comes to the vault dwellers. If they knew about the Ark why didn't they attempt to establish contact before now? My vote is that the chocolate cake is actually soylent cake and that they worship an unused nuclear warhead with a gold omega symbol on it.
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Fermented Tinal posted:There is a heavy stink if ulterior motives in the air when it comes to the vault dwellers. If they knew about the Ark why didn't they attempt to establish contact before now? My vote is that the chocolate cake is actually soylent cake and that they worship an unused nuclear warhead with a gold omega symbol on it. I bet they want those sweet radiation resistance genes.
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Spokklefant posted:I bet they want those sweet radiation resistance genes. I'm thinking that also and wondering if they plan to harvest bone marrow or eggs and sperm unless it's going to be a future eugenics thing.
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Oct 28, 2014 08:30
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I burned through this show after Deadpool had good things to say about it. Congrats CW, you now have me in the bag for three shows. Jaha is totally gonna crash into Mt. Weather with his baby-powered escape pad and rescue Clarke and co. Only then will he have some more scotch.
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Fermented Tinal posted:There is a heavy stink if ulterior motives in the air when it comes to the vault dwellers. If they knew about the Ark why didn't they attempt to establish contact before now? My vote is that the chocolate cake is actually soylent cake and that they worship an unused nuclear warhead with a gold omega symbol on it. Yeah, they're way too good to be true. I'm just waiting to see what their dark secret is - we already had cannibals so that can't be it. Something to do with radiation resistance I guess but it's not like the Ark people wouldn't be voluntarily inclined to have sex with the vault dwellers and I'm pretty sure you can't transfer radiation resistance by organ harvesting or whatever...
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Fermented Tinal posted:There is a heavy stink if ulterior motives in the air when it comes to the vault dwellers. If they knew about the Ark why didn't they attempt to establish contact before now? My vote is that the chocolate cake is actually soylent cake and that they worship an unused nuclear warhead with a gold omega symbol on it. I hope it doesn't go this all-too-predictable route. It would be way better if the vault dwellers were generally honest and genuine but heavily tempered by xenophobia. Then Clarke fucks it all up, like Astroman said.
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Oct 28, 2014 14:46
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Clarke has a pretty good reason to not trust anyone considering every other form of government she's dealt with has been pretty horrible.
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DarkCrawler posted:Yeah, they're way too good to be true. I'm just waiting to see what their dark secret is - we already had cannibals so that can't be it. Something to do with radiation resistance I guess but it's not like the Ark people wouldn't be voluntarily inclined to have sex with the vault dwellers and I'm pretty sure you can't transfer radiation resistance by organ harvesting or whatever... If they didn't know about the Ark, then I would guess that their behavior is to be expected. They've lived under ground for years, and the only other humans they know about are the whats-their-face. They've finally found civilized people who are more or less just like them. If anything they're trying to act their best in order to get them to join up. Having radiation resistant people to wander the wasteland would be pretty sweet for the vault dwellers. They can go get more art. But I'm sure the show has some bad twist in place.
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Even if they're not awful to Ark people they might have some terrible history with the grounders, considering how afraid they are of them.
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If the Mt. Weather people can't open the door without killing everyone...how do they get outside? Another door with an airlock?
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hollylolly posted:If the Mt. Weather people can't open the door without killing everyone...how do they get outside? Another door with an airlock? Places like that would have decontamination rooms that bridge off the exterior door into an interior airlock area generally, yeah. Here's how the Greenbrier's system worked: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZoj6WvvMh0
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hollylolly posted:If the Mt. Weather people can't open the door without killing everyone...how do they get outside? Another door with an airlock? Unless it's a lie and they can go outside  But yea, I hope they are honest and Clarke fucks everything up. Then Jaha crashes whats left of the ark on them.
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 New Episode Tonight S2 E2 - Inclement Weather A suspicious Clarke confronts President Dante Wallace and demands answers. Kane interrogates one of The 100, and Abby performs emergency surgery. Meanwhile, Octavia resorts to violence to find Lincoln. Party Plane Jones posted:Places like that would have decontamination rooms that bridge off the exterior door into an interior airlock area generally, yeah. Here's how the Greenbrier's system worked: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZoj6WvvMh0 Cool, thanks. 
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Oct 29, 2014 20:32
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Whoa, opening credits Edit: You think they could find something for her to at least bite down on during surgery. kdrudy fucked around with this message at 02:17 on Oct 30, 2014 |
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Oct 30, 2014 02:07
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Xoidanor posted:Well Jaha is crazy. I still can't get over that he was sober while he came up with the whole "crash the entire station from orbit and hope we know which 2% survive" plan. Yes this is a man who is going to save a magic baby by riding a missile down to the surface.
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Kwyndig posted:Yes this is a man who is going to save a magic baby by riding a missile down to the surface. The US tried the world's fastest postal delivery system by using an ICBM so it is possible. Probably need way less propellant from orbit to Earth as well. Edit: hah, it's a hallucination Party Plane Jones fucked around with this message at 02:40 on Oct 30, 2014 |
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I want every week to be "What crazy thing will Jaha do next?" And he is getting space madness
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kdrudy posted:I want every week to be "What crazy thing will Jaha do next?" Space Madness is a terrible thing.
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Party Plane Jones posted:The US tried the world's fastest postal delivery system by using an ICBM so it is possible. Probably need way less propellant from orbit to Earth as well. Told you, magic baby. Also holy poo poo what do they do to these people? Edit: They harvest grounders! Kwyndig fucked around with this message at 02:59 on Oct 30, 2014 |
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I don't think that's how dialysis works! Also, I was going to say I was surprised that we didn't get Clarke in a cleavage revealing top this week except there was that downshirt shot of her when she was going through the vent.
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 Well that was hosed up. I didn't expect them to be harvesting grounders for their blood. I guess it heals them / keeps them alive longer? I did love Jaha riding the missile to freedom. I just want him to make it to base camp by riding a series of weapons. Tank shells, drones, whatever
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I'm still holding out on the Mount Weather guys being morally ambiguous. OK, they are draining the blood of Grounders to make it into magic healing blood to stay alive. That's pretty bad. On the other hand: 1. They are doing what they have to to survive 2. Grounders are pretty much savages who impale people to trees at the drop of a hat 3. The Ark people have done some pretty questionable things to survive as well--airlocking their people for the slightest crimes--including having an extra kid, culling 300 people, sending 100 children down to die. They also only ever intended for 25% of their people to make it to Earth in a best case scenario. From the point of view of the MtWx folks, I'd bet they'd see the Ark people as pretty evil and I don't blame them for not wanting the Ark adults to come in for tea and cake. And those are only the things we know of. They knew Clarke's name--have they been monitoring Ark transmissions or video feeds for years, maybe using some legacy NSA programs in the US sections of the Ark? There could be even worse stuff in the past--what the 12 surviving nations did to the 13th for example. And while Jaha is a great leader (with the exception of his martyr complex), we know at least one of his predecessors was an rear end in a top hat. I'd love to see an episode recapping the past century from the pov of the MtWx survivors. Also did anybody else see an homage to Beneath the Planet of the Apes with the busts on plinths in that white corridor? 
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So where is Jaha now, the ruins on NYC based on the (awesome) new opening credits? I guess that's not too far off.
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Astroman posted:I'm still holding out on the Mount Weather guys being morally ambiguous.  )But yeah, hopefully Clarke comes to her senses a bit but I was wondering where Anya went and it's still a lovely situation all around so Clarke doesn't really have much to stand on since the Ark adults are pretty much huge dicks for the most part (okay, Kane, but he's back in charge) and her people (the kids) are pretty lovely nonetheless. Octavia getting to be badass was pretty cool too. Teek posted:So where is Jaha now, the ruins on NYC based on the (awesome) new opening credits? I guess that's not too far off.
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I'm pretty sure that was the Brooklyn Bridge behind him in the wide shot. Thy had me going for a while there. Jaha is trying to chase down the crying to find the baby...maybe he's hallucinating. Finds baby, oh maybe he isn't. Baby has chess piece...leaning back toward hallucination. Then the while elaborate spacesuit sling for the baby had me convinced it was all real and then he slammed down on his belly when he got through to the otherwise and IT WAS A HALLUCINATION. Ya got me, show. Ya got me. And of course Jaha could ride a middle down to earth. It would have killed anyone else but the universe won't let him die. Are the Mt. Weatherites actually cycling their blood through grounders bodies or just draining the Grounders into themselves? That was pretty crazy.
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hollylolly posted:I'm pretty sure that was the Brooklyn Bridge behind him in the wide shot. Almost certain its draining, otherwise why suspend the Grounders upside down.
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This show starts to approach Continuum levels of quality. I'm loving how they've made three distinct factions and how we're starting to see more Grounders and their culture as well - anyone recognize the non-English language they speak? My favorite scenes were the Ark people coming down to take things in order, Kane interrogating Bellamy was great.
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This show is almost Game of Thronsian now, following all these different characters in different places. Plus the fancy new opening credits. There's a potentially very interesting set up with the 3 factions of Weather people, Grounders, and Ark people. Each of them has reason to oppose each other one and it's not immediately clear who the "good guys" are, if any.
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With all the world building and BSG alum in the show now I'm totally okay with treating this like some kinda BSG sequel. Also as far as mountain men go, I'm 100% sure as far as ark kids go they just want their genes. The grounders get drained because like President Arlo said, they're "savages." Tokubetsu fucked around with this message at 20:51 on Oct 30, 2014 |
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Tokubetsu posted:With all the world building and BSG alum in the show now I'm totally okay with treating this like some kinda BSG sequel. Wait, who's a BSG alum? Did I miss someone? I saw Benny from Supernatural and Sierra from Doll House. Oh wait, Sinclair. I forgot about him because I never see him. Rurutia fucked around with this message at 20:56 on Oct 30, 2014 |
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