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Vernii posted:I love how conservatives pretend like they wouldn't have been loyalists in a heartbeat. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7K9k84R5ok Dicere posted:
 healthy love of country is good imho but you also have to accept that, like everything humans are involved in, we've done some pretty nasty poo poo at some points
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Sep 26, 2014 06:02
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Yup, it's horseshit.
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Sep 26, 2014 06:03
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Mariana Horchata posted:rock rock rock rock
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Sep 26, 2014 06:04
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Prettz posted:Why? It's just the location you were born in. It's also the location my family was born in, and my great-grandparents emigrated to. It's the location all of my neighbors and most strangers on the street were either born in or emigrated to. Based on that alone, I don't think loving your country is bad thing. The USA, in particular, has a poo poo ton of problems, that much is evident. But it's a drat sight better than a lot of other places on the planet and it got that way through a long tradition of democratic government, civil disobedience, and fundamental human rights - all of which were fought for and all of which are worth learning about. It's the people who wrap themselves up in the flag that often appreciate it the least. Kids in America can learn about Kent State in history class, while kids in Chinese classrooms aren't allowed to talk about Tiananmen Square. Christians in America will talk about being persecuted when they have to take a cross off of a public building, instead of being thankful the 1st Amendment also says they have the right to attend church in the light of day.
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Sep 26, 2014 06:14
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gary oldmans diary posted:actual history has liberal bias wait til you get older then you be a conservative too
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yeah its called reality you shitheads
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Prettz posted:Why? It's just the location you were born in. Because you idiot humans function best in societies and a great way to have a well functioning society is to have everybody be happy about the society.
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Dicere posted:There's the other sticking point. I honestly don't remember much from AP history, but hoo boy do I remember tariffs and anti-trust laws and the New Deal. You can't really revere a thing that's never existed. i remember learning about the gilded age when we had a 'free market' (meaning there was little or no government regulation, not that it was actually free) and lol that was some poo poo right there   it's like hey fuckwads we've already done all this and it wasn't even that long ago pick up a book instead of just parroting the Koch Bros. opinions because they're not really looking out for you. whatever it's going to get a lot worse before it gets better (if ever) Moridin920 fucked around with this message at 08:11 on Sep 26, 2014 |
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Sep 26, 2014 08:07
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Gaunab posted:wait til you get older then you be a conservative too
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Sep 26, 2014 08:27
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let's go back to the time private mercenaries bombed striking miners from aircraft and attacked with machine-gun laden armored cars and people were payed in company scrip
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^^ agreed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6ueDHn2HTk
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Gaunab posted:wait til you get older then you be a conservative too Haha the perfect Finishing Move. I guess it's supposed to convey "I know I'm losing this argument, but I'll end it by implying that due to my age I have some sort of mystical wisdom, despite everything that I've said pointing to the opposite, and you don't possess it because you're younger and naive" But really Conservatives just appeal to the elderly on social issues and promise to take them back to a time that didn't exist and you end up with King Stephen Harper, First of His Name, ruling Canada.
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Sep 26, 2014 10:27
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They don't even seem to be trying to pretend that their version is more accurate or correct. Just that they don't really like the history of America.
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Sep 26, 2014 10:32
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Are people seriously that mad about a single school in Colorado that pulls poo poo like this, however the school also allows weed smoking on the school campus if you can show your medical card.
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you dumb yankee fucks love to hate on yourselves so much its really funny. yet you still ignore the indian genocide, even bleeding heart liberals barely acknowledge that poo poo. just admit it. you are the american empire and might makes right. stop loving around you two faced hypocrites.
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Dr_Amazing posted:They don't even seem to be trying to pretend that their version is more accurate or correct. Just that they don't really like the history of America. Sounds mighty unpatriotic. But yeah, as before mentioned, it's possible to love your country and hate everything that made it what it is because ~*~*~cRAZY@~*~*~*~
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numberoneposter posted:you dumb yankee fucks love to hate on yourselves so much its really funny. yet you still ignore the indian genocide, even bleeding heart liberals barely acknowledge that poo poo. just admit it. you are the american empire and might makes right. stop loving around you two faced hypocrites. um but white people
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Mulefisk posted:um but white people oh wait no one cares any more your country died with regean
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numberoneposter posted:why dont you put another man on the moon about it you monster Everyone in the world almost died with regean
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Professor Shark posted:Everyone in the world almost died with Obama ftfy
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gary oldmans diary posted:things conservatives say to wrap up a losing argument for $200 alex You don't want to be old and liberal. You don't want to be that guy.
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Sep 26, 2014 11:41
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I think you'll find when you check the history textbooks that there never was a President Obama 
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burritolingus posted:You don't want to be old and liberal. You don't want to be that guy. Old Liberals are awesome, they smoke weed and love life
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Professor Shark posted:Old Liberals are awesome, they smoke weed and love life Naw pretty much they're creepy and gross and smell bad.
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numberoneposter posted:you dumb yankee fucks love to hate on yourselves so much its really funny. yet you still ignore the indian genocide, even bleeding heart liberals barely acknowledge that poo poo. just admit it. you are the american empire and might makes right. stop loving around you two faced hypocrites. Fart
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burritolingus posted:Naw pretty much they're creepy and gross and smell bad. thats old hippies and old lyndon johnsons
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Sep 26, 2014 12:09
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So are they saying Marduk was the baddie not Tiamat?
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The Droid posted:let's go back to the time private mercenaries bombed striking miners from aircraft and attacked with machine-gun laden armored cars and people were payed in company scrip 
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The Taint Reaper posted:Are people seriously that mad about a single school in Colorado that pulls poo poo like this, however the school also allows weed smoking on the school campus if you can show your medical card. yes people are mad that a bad thing has happened. It's pretty gay I agree but these homos don't have the guts to vote Romney
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lol america
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boomers did nothing wrong
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Kanthulhu posted:I think that's what Jesus would want. If everybody doesn't emptyquote me then I am a failed prophet
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quote:Conservative activists fear losing local control over what is taught in schools, particularly when it comes to the meaning of American history. In interviews, they expressed an uneasiness with a view of history that examines groups rather than focusing on heroic individuals. While they decried the fact that civil rights figures like Dr. King were not explicitly named in the framework, they could have done without the mention of leftist groups that defined the 1960s like the Students for a Democratic Society and the Black Panthers. They also disagreed with the College Board over how children should learn, with Krieger and his allies preferring a curriculum based on memorizing facts to one based on critical thinking. this is real life
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Beige posted:Superintendent Dan McMinimee is a boss name. You couldn't make him more of a stereotypical 80's high school movie villain if you called him Stan Stricter or Bob Killbuzz.
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Daedra posted:johnny appleseed was gay 
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Sep 26, 2014 14:38
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sic the social justice warriors on them they'll be sorry very, very sorry
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When will South Park condense this into a 22 minute analogy? I'm guessing 3 weeks
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We want goodfacts, not realfacts.
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Professor Shark posted:Haha the perfect Finishing Move. I guess it's supposed to convey "I know I'm losing this argument, but I'll end it by implying that due to my age I have some sort of mystical wisdom, despite everything that I've said pointing to the opposite, and you don't possess it because you're younger and naive" It's annoying because superficially that's more or less the original quote's message but the wisdom it meant was experience-driven respect for how difficult political reform is to implement and for how impossible the actual real-world changes that will result are to predict. That doesn't really describe American conservatives since they use 'conservative' to mean 'agrees with the changes I want to see' and only wave the change-is-bad flag when they're trying to stop their opponents from doing stuff. If anyone cares, it's also a misquote. Francois Guizot said the original quote, which was "Not to be a republican at 20 is proof of want of heart; to be one at 30 is proof of want of head." Guizot was a politician in post-Napoleonic France, and the quote refers to his own pragmatism-first political attitude. He favored increasing political freedom and giving power to the people, which was sensible for someone whose early adulthood took place under Napoleon's reign. He also opposed a sharp transition to a republic, which also was sensible for someone whose father was guillotined during the Reign of Terror when he was 6. He tried making a constitutional monarchy work but it didn't because both sides hated it, and him, and the opposite side, and the kings he was working with were giant morons. Not that any conservatives stealing his line give a poo poo.
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I thought the internet would stamp out a lot of poo poo like this because people could just look stuff up and be like "oh, wait, that's a load of bullshit" but no instead we got freep and facebook and that one conservative version of facebook too it just provided an equal pedestal for bullshit where every joe and jane shitbrain could claim any drat thing they wanted without repercussions somehow Truth is if you can get enough people believing or saying something it will be Right, just keep saying it over and over until it sticks gently caress
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