Incest a 'fundamental right', German committee says

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Cardiovorax: Jun 5, 2011; I mean, if you're a successful actress and you go out of the house in a skirt and without underwear, knowing that paparazzi are just waiting for opportunities like this and that it has happened many times before, then there's really nobody you can blame for it but yourself.

It's not like there really needs to be a law against this anyway. Most sane people won't even consider it because Westermarck effect and all, and the kind that would anyway doesn't care about the law to begin with. The last time I actually heard about there being an occasion to enforce this was like a decade ago.

# ¿ Sep 26, 2014 10:51

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# ¿ Apr 29, 2024 14:37

Cardiovorax: Jun 5, 2011; I mean, if you're a successful actress and you go out of the house in a skirt and without underwear, knowing that paparazzi are just waiting for opportunities like this and that it has happened many times before, then there's really nobody you can blame for it but yourself.

Whorelord posted:

what is it with the germans and being really loving weird about sex stuff

is it the language or the awful stodgy food

i can't remember the last time we had a "nipplegate scandal." just saying.

# ¿ Sep 26, 2014 14:39

Cardiovorax: Jun 5, 2011; I mean, if you're a successful actress and you go out of the house in a skirt and without underwear, knowing that paparazzi are just waiting for opportunities like this and that it has happened many times before, then there's really nobody you can blame for it but yourself.

Libelous Slander posted:

lol at german leftists wanting incest as, like, an immediate concern that needs addressed. can germans do anything without it being the evil version?

Sausage?

# ¿ Sep 26, 2014 17:59

Cardiovorax: Jun 5, 2011; I mean, if you're a successful actress and you go out of the house in a skirt and without underwear, knowing that paparazzi are just waiting for opportunities like this and that it has happened many times before, then there's really nobody you can blame for it but yourself.

Libelous Slander posted:

I contend that ground meats are the evil version of their butcher cuts counterparts

Counterpoint: They are still delicious.

# ¿ Sep 26, 2014 18:28

Cardiovorax: Jun 5, 2011; I mean, if you're a successful actress and you go out of the house in a skirt and without underwear, knowing that paparazzi are just waiting for opportunities like this and that it has happened many times before, then there's really nobody you can blame for it but yourself.

DoctorStrangelove posted:

Magic 18, lol age of consent is 14 in Germany.

16, strictly.

# ¿ Sep 26, 2014 20:06

Cardiovorax: Jun 5, 2011; I mean, if you're a successful actress and you go out of the house in a skirt and without underwear, knowing that paparazzi are just waiting for opportunities like this and that it has happened many times before, then there's really nobody you can blame for it but yourself.

Randler posted:

For somebody who is allegedly German you really suck at knowing stuff about Germany. DoctorStrangelove is right, it's 14.

Before age 16 it's basically up to the arbitration of the courts to decide if any given relationship is abusive or not. If the parents decide that they do not condone the relationship, it's no longer allowed. So no, 14 is not the age of consent. It's the age of decriminalization. After the age of 16 you can do whatever you drat well please, but not before. Which is a difference.

Also you're an rear end in a top hat.

# ¿ Sep 26, 2014 20:14

Cardiovorax: Jun 5, 2011; I mean, if you're a successful actress and you go out of the house in a skirt and without underwear, knowing that paparazzi are just waiting for opportunities like this and that it has happened many times before, then there's really nobody you can blame for it but yourself.

Randler posted:

You know what, forget it. I don't know why I even bothered talking to you.

# ¿ Sep 26, 2014 20:44

Cardiovorax: Jun 5, 2011; I mean, if you're a successful actress and you go out of the house in a skirt and without underwear, knowing that paparazzi are just waiting for opportunities like this and that it has happened many times before, then there's really nobody you can blame for it but yourself.

As they say, economics is the mere continuation of war by other means.

# ¿ Sep 27, 2014 19:13

Cardiovorax: Jun 5, 2011; I mean, if you're a successful actress and you go out of the house in a skirt and without underwear, knowing that paparazzi are just waiting for opportunities like this and that it has happened many times before, then there's really nobody you can blame for it but yourself.

Fister Roboto posted:

It also doesn't specifically protect gay marriage either.

Typically it's argued that it protects gay marriage on the same basis that it protects marriage between infertile couples. The ability to have children isn't essential to the ability to be a family.

# ¿ Sep 29, 2014 06:49

Cardiovorax: Jun 5, 2011; I mean, if you're a successful actress and you go out of the house in a skirt and without underwear, knowing that paparazzi are just waiting for opportunities like this and that it has happened many times before, then there's really nobody you can blame for it but yourself.

ArbitraryC posted:

I support laws outlawing harm. If there is no evidence of harm, no one should go to jail. Do you really think anyone needs to have their life ruined because "thems the rules champ" or do you think they had to do something that actually hurt someone or something? If you can present evidence they hurt someone, book them with that crime. If you can't, then there's no crime. I feel like laws against incest as a concept are redundant morality laws, we already have laws against sexual abuse.

Just stop trying. You're talking to miltank, things like reason or proportional response don't come into it.

# ¿ Sep 29, 2014 07:03

Cardiovorax: Jun 5, 2011; I mean, if you're a successful actress and you go out of the house in a skirt and without underwear, knowing that paparazzi are just waiting for opportunities like this and that it has happened many times before, then there's really nobody you can blame for it but yourself.

Child grooming is a bad thing and it's a reasonable issue to be concerned about. Seems to me like it would apply to any interaction between older and younger children, though, not just family.

# ¿ Sep 29, 2014 07:11

Cardiovorax: Jun 5, 2011; I mean, if you're a successful actress and you go out of the house in a skirt and without underwear, knowing that paparazzi are just waiting for opportunities like this and that it has happened many times before, then there's really nobody you can blame for it but yourself.

Moridin920 posted:

yeah but I can't imagine anyone nutty enough to do something like that would be stopped by incest being illegal

I agree. The same could be said about any law, though, so that's not in and of itself much of an argument. Still, it's a really big deal, and I can kind of understand just prohibiting that sort of interaction as a blanket solution. It's well-intentioned, the problem is just that it doesn't work. Like you said, people who would even consider that sort of thing are nutcases to begin with.

# ¿ Sep 29, 2014 07:17

Cardiovorax: Jun 5, 2011; I mean, if you're a successful actress and you go out of the house in a skirt and without underwear, knowing that paparazzi are just waiting for opportunities like this and that it has happened many times before, then there's really nobody you can blame for it but yourself.

Moridin920 posted:

if it's like the daughter was given up for adoption and 18 years later she meets her dad and they gently caress that's strange and weird to me but it shouldn't be illegal.

Supposedly this happens disturbingly often when adopted children first meet their parents. Something psychological about the displaced affection of a child to their birth parents expressing itself as sexual desire.

# ¿ Sep 29, 2014 07:49

Cardiovorax: Jun 5, 2011; I mean, if you're a successful actress and you go out of the house in a skirt and without underwear, knowing that paparazzi are just waiting for opportunities like this and that it has happened many times before, then there's really nobody you can blame for it but yourself.

Morkyz posted:

I'm pretty sure even bonobos don't practice incest (or at least they try not to).

Mother-son incest is absolutely taboo, as is, I believe, contact between brothers and sisters. Bonobos don't know their fathers, so that's usually ignored, but I believe they'd treat it the same if they knew.

# ¿ Sep 29, 2014 08:25

Cardiovorax: Jun 5, 2011; I mean, if you're a successful actress and you go out of the house in a skirt and without underwear, knowing that paparazzi are just waiting for opportunities like this and that it has happened many times before, then there's really nobody you can blame for it but yourself.

Moridin920 posted:

but if it isn't illegal for bonobos how do they know not to do it?

Miltank educated them on it, of course.

# ¿ Sep 29, 2014 08:29

Cardiovorax: Jun 5, 2011; I mean, if you're a successful actress and you go out of the house in a skirt and without underwear, knowing that paparazzi are just waiting for opportunities like this and that it has happened many times before, then there's really nobody you can blame for it but yourself.

Fister Roboto posted:

That would be FDR (married his 5th cousin once removed) and probably several others with even closer ties before that.

5th cousin is literally less closely related than any random person on the street, who is about as genetically similar to you as a 3rd cousin, so I don't think that counts in any meaningful sense.

# ¿ Sep 29, 2014 11:44

Cardiovorax: Jun 5, 2011; I mean, if you're a successful actress and you go out of the house in a skirt and without underwear, knowing that paparazzi are just waiting for opportunities like this and that it has happened many times before, then there's really nobody you can blame for it but yourself.

Zzulu posted:

That's not true

"America hosts 428 million porn pages, or 60 percent, of the worldwide total. Netherlands, which sits in 2nd place, hosts 187 million pages (26 percent)."

There are only about ten million Dutch, so they have like ten times as many porn mags per head as Americans do.

# ¿ Sep 29, 2014 15:13

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# ¿ Apr 29, 2024 14:37

Cardiovorax: Jun 5, 2011; I mean, if you're a successful actress and you go out of the house in a skirt and without underwear, knowing that paparazzi are just waiting for opportunities like this and that it has happened many times before, then there's really nobody you can blame for it but yourself.

There are some directions public morality shouldn't go, though, for good reasons. Whether this is one of them is up to everyone to decide for themselves, but that doesn't mean it's not true.

# ¿ Sep 30, 2014 08:37

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