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Great Joe posted:nobody cares, please leave Zelder posted:Lol look at this post. Oh my. RagnarokAngel posted:Haha go cry about it nerd. Stick Figure Mafia posted:Look at this guy. Don't be like this guy. Hitlers Gay Secret posted:Shut up you loving baby. Go back to your Steam megathread.
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# ? Sep 29, 2014 18:55 |
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Jon Joe posted:If you wanted the ultimate Kickstarter scam, you just need one good 3D modeler/animator, maybe a fancy pants UI designer too. These two team members would allow you to create a really cool and polished looking gameplay video (and screenshots) for a game that doesn't exist, without much programming needed at all, and you can fill out any buzzwords you want in the descriptions because nobody knows otherwise. It's just you, your small team, and piles of money being thrown at you for stretch goals that don't mean anything. You could also technically use the money to deliver the game at some point, just to prevent legal issues, but nobody said the game has to be competently made or anywhere near your funded budget. That already happened: it was called Confederate Express.
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# ? Sep 29, 2014 19:12 |
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BexGu posted:That already happened: it was called Confederate Express. and then immediately after they used the kickstarter of hotels to scam some more people
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# ? Sep 29, 2014 19:15 |
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BexGu posted:That already happened: it was called Confederate Express. I was so mad that I had found out about that Kickstarter the day after it ended so I couldn't give them my money. Now I'm glad I dodged that bullet.
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# ? Sep 29, 2014 19:16 |
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Arnold of Soissons posted:and then immediately after they used the kickstarter of hotels to scam some more people Bro's so lovely and scammy that they caused the TOS for two services to change!
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# ? Sep 29, 2014 19:43 |
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Buying into early access (and Kickstarter) is a terrible idea because of several reasons:
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# ? Sep 29, 2014 20:24 |
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MrBims posted:I don't agree that looking at the track record of the developers is any help - compare Double Fine and inXile and you see all the same bullet points with regards to big names, record of published games, openness of development, but the results of their respective projects couldn't be any more different. There have been no shortage of goons who went up to bat for Double Fine, and no shortage of goons doubtful of inXile, and I don't think any gambler could have foreseen how things turned out. How did it turn out? Haven't really been paying attention. Wasteland 2 is good, right?
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# ? Sep 29, 2014 20:34 |
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Phlegmish posted:How did it turn out? Haven't really been paying attention. Wasteland 2 is good, right? Wasteland 2 owns bones imo. It scratches that fallout 2 itch perfectly and it only cost me $15 as opposed to the $40 it's retailing for now. Re confederate express I would have totally donated to it but I didn't have The money at the time. I thought about it a few months ago and looked it up to see its progress only to see that insane story of the dev squatting in a dudes house. DrManiac fucked around with this message at 21:08 on Sep 29, 2014 |
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DrManiac posted:Re confederate express I would have totally donated to it but I didn't have The money at the time. I thought about it a few months ago and looked it up to see its progress only to see that insane story of the dev squatting in a dudes house. And that was such the weird thing: they where talented! They put in the time to make detailed and animated art, released a prototype of the new lighting engine for sprite artwork, and even signed up to SA to talk about the game. But nope! Scam time!
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# ? Sep 29, 2014 21:16 |
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It's a crap-shoot. I think if you want to be daring and support a project that looks interesting, there is nothing wrong with that. Just be aware of the risks involved. If you buy an early access game and conflate what is almost definitely an inchoate mass of programming and mistakes with your ideal of what the title should be, you are being stupid and have made a poor decision. Just be cognizant of what you're getting into and you'll be fine.
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# ? Sep 29, 2014 21:36 |
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BexGu posted:and even signed up to SA to talk about the game. Haha, are you serious?
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# ? Sep 29, 2014 21:41 |
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Hitlers Gay Secret posted:Haha, are you serious? you're kidding right? ofc goons love throwing dollars at the screen.
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# ? Sep 29, 2014 22:15 |
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Hitlers Gay Secret posted:Haha, are you serious? Yep! It was in the bowls of the Kickstarter Thread: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3473379&userid=205905 And he doesn't even half rear end it either!
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# ? Sep 29, 2014 23:25 |
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I think its a simple decision: If you can get your money's worth out of EA title based on existing features then go ahead and buy it, if not, then don't buy it and wait for the game to be finished. Captain Gordon fucked around with this message at 01:22 on Sep 30, 2014 |
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Captain Gordon posted:I think its a simple decision: If you can get your money's worth out of EA title based on existing features then go ahead and buy it, if not, then don't buy it and wait for the game to be finished. The point of an ea game is that you specifically aren't buying based on existing features, but if your point was that therefore buying ea games is stupid and you shouldn't do it then you're spot on!
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# ? Sep 30, 2014 05:10 |
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BexGu posted:Yep! It was in the bowls of the Kickstarter Thread: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3473379&userid=205905 Oh man I remember seeing his gifs and thinking they were awesome and almost contributing. Someone should take their concepts and make real game.
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# ? Sep 30, 2014 05:18 |
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Cheekio posted:I just backed your game for $25, which was a dumb idea because I'm poor, but the art style is amazing. Emphasis mine.
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# ? Sep 30, 2014 06:34 |
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Prop Wash posted:The point of an ea game is that you specifically aren't buying based on existing features, but if your point was that therefore buying ea games is stupid and you shouldn't do it then you're spot on! Basically, the only game you should buy on Early Access is the one that already is basically done anyway, and the only game you should Kickstart is the one that's being made by a big company that only went to Kickstarter because if grognards are willing to give you free money and let you skip out on getting a publisher, well why not do it. Although, Spacebase apparently broke that second rule. Any summary on what happened there? I basically only know that it's a game Double Fine made that was an EA/KS title but not much else.
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# ? Sep 30, 2014 07:09 |
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Arnold of Soissons posted:you're kidding right? ofc goons love throwing dollars at the screen. Your av is sick
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# ? Sep 30, 2014 07:12 |
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DrProsek posted:Although, Spacebase apparently broke that second rule. Any summary on what happened there? I basically only know that it's a game Double Fine made that was an EA/KS title but not much else. They made a fair amount of money on it and decided that it would be more profitable to halt production of the game and release it unfinished, hoping modders will finish the game for them.
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# ? Sep 30, 2014 07:12 |
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Hitlers Gay Secret posted:They made a fair amount of money on it and decided that it would be more profitable to halt production of the game and release it unfinished, hoping modders will finish the game for them. Starbound will end the same way.
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# ? Sep 30, 2014 07:19 |
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Hitlers Gay Secret posted:They made a fair amount of money on it and decided that it would be more profitable to halt production of the game and release it unfinished, hoping modders will finish the game for them. Ah, so basically, DF is ahead of the curve here and they're not just letting their consumers be alpha testers that pay them, now their consumers can be coders that pay them!
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# ? Sep 30, 2014 07:33 |
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Invisible Inc, Xenonauts, and Crypt of the Necrodancer are drat fun games and I won't let you bullies make me feel bad for buying them!
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karl fungus posted:Starbound will end the same way. Nah, Think it'll be fine.
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