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VendaGoat posted:Are we basing the deserves on an individual basis, local community, local area, local region, country, local countries, geographical area or humanity as a whole? Melanin count and skull measurements mostly
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VendaGoat posted:Are we basing the deserves on an individual basis, local community, local area, local region, country, local countries, geographical area or humanity as a whole? As a whole, collective guilt, collective punishment.
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Sep 26, 2014 06:33
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Humanity doesn't deserve
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Sep 26, 2014 06:35
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Trixie Hardcore posted:As a whole, collective guilt, collective punishment. Collective punishment for which/what guilt? Troon Flesh Mask posted:Melanin count and skull measurements mostly This seems fair. Skulls are the currency of the future.
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Sep 26, 2014 06:36
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The St. Matthew's Island Experiment: a microcosm of what humanity is doing, right now.
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Sep 26, 2014 06:38
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the best argument against democracy is a 10-minute conversation with the average voter. -- bob marley
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Sep 26, 2014 06:42
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VendaGoat posted:Collective punishment for which/what guilt? Guilty of being humans.
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Sep 26, 2014 06:44
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it takes only a short stroll through an asylum to show that faith proves nothing -albert einstein
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The Protagonist posted:The St. Matthew's Island Experiment: a microcosm of what humanity is doing, right now. While the introduction of the species to the island was from an outside source, it simply followed the natural order. If you are drawing a comparison to current man/humanity I would have to brook a disagreement with you. We are capable of willful change. This is opposed by willful ignorance. Once a tipping point is reached, one side will win out over the other. Which, is exactly like the natural order. Humanity, as a whole, is doing everything it is supposed to do. The individual entities, in your opinion, are not. Democracy is mob rule where 51% of the population can take away the other 49% rights.
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Sep 26, 2014 06:46
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The Protagonist posted:it takes only a short stroll through an asylum to show that faith proves nothing what about eric cantors divine inspiration for his infinity proof or whatevs
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Sep 26, 2014 06:47
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VendaGoat posted:If you are drawing a comparison to current man/humanity I would have to brook a disagreement with you. We are capable of willful change. Individuals are capable of willful change. I see The tipping point is when runaway greenhouse effects turns the whole earth into a boiling cauldron and the last few sparks of humanity claw each others throats out in a few hastily erected bubble cities.
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Sep 26, 2014 06:50
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My argument is actually not in disagreement with yours Goat Vendor, it's simply that that change will be too slow to counteract the natural forces tipping against us.
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Sep 26, 2014 06:53
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The Protagonist posted:Individuals are capable of willful change. I see and when enough individuals come together they form a group, this group pursues a goal. In doing so they gain momentum and attract more like minded individuals. Which furthers their cause, until the individuals become a culture, which leads to more followers. and finally after an agonizingly long time, they become humanity. As for your second sentence. Get off your rear end and do something about it or it will never happen.
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The Protagonist posted:My argument is actually not in disagreement with yours Goat Vendor, it's simply that that change will be too slow to counteract the natural forces tipping against us. I'm not disagreeing with you either.  as for the second clause. Well, we will find out, won't we? Now what do you think will give it a better chance to NOT happen; you bitching on a message board or you getting off your rear end and doing something about the problem?
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Sep 26, 2014 06:55
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VendaGoat posted:and when enough individuals come together they form a group, this group pursues a goal. In doing so they gain momentum and attract more like minded individuals. Which furthers their cause, until the individuals become a culture, which leads to more followers. and finally after an agonizingly long time, they become humanity. I actually only get up in the mornings since I'm still optimistic that we'll be able to pull through. This has largely all been alcohol-fueled hyperbole. But the danger of inaction, or insufficiently swift action, looms large. VendaGoat posted:As for your second sentence. Get off your rear end and do something about it or it will never happen. I'm currently researching how to chemically extract Protactinium from a Th/Pa-Fluoride molten salt, since I believe that Kirk Sorensen's model of a Fluoride-volatility column extraction method to grab the U-233 after the fact is flawed. Pa takes around a month to beta decay and is a neutron hog in the meantime, it's just not ideal to leave it in the blanket for the interim.
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Sep 26, 2014 06:59
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I call bullshit. This is clearly an Antagonist's monologue. You're not the Protagonist. Maybe you used to be, but we're definitely gonna need a new one after this.
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VendaGoat posted:Now what do you think will give it a better chance to NOT happen; you bitching on a message board or you getting off your rear end and doing something about the problem? Public awareness is one of my many daily tasks! But you're right I ought to be sleeping. 
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Sep 26, 2014 07:03
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The Protagonist posted:I actually only get up in the mornings since I'm still optimistic that we'll be able to pull through. This has largely all been alcohol-fueled hyperbole. But the danger of inaction, or insufficiently swift action, looms large. You're one person. No one expects you to change the world overnight. Blurry Gray Thing posted:I call bullshit. and this is some funny poo poo right here
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Sep 26, 2014 07:04
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Blurry Gray Thing posted:I call bullshit. I'm the Protagonist humanity deserves, but not the one they want right now.
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Sep 26, 2014 07:05
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VendaGoat posted:You're one person. No one expects you to change the world overnight.  I'm working with a lot of smart(er) people. LFTR is going to happen, within the decade I'd say, and it'll be a revolution of incredible scope.
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Sep 26, 2014 07:07
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Since skynet most likely evolves from this very forum, were all hosed anyways. Rightfully so, i might add. gently caress us.
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Sep 26, 2014 07:12
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EhLLL EFFFFFF!
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Sep 26, 2014 07:16
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Everyone gets the government they deserve. And boy do we deserve democracy.
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Sep 26, 2014 07:16
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The best form of government is a benevolent monarch. However monarchy is loving stupid and relies on a person not being hosed up in the head from incest. So democracy is the most reliable. Fun fact though: all government is lovely, but we try to use the least bad form of government.
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reported for thoughtcrime
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Sep 26, 2014 08:25
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where is the robot to pick the least retarded human and least fuckheaded human on the planet to rule us divine right via robot god
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Sep 26, 2014 11:25
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give me the job.
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Sep 26, 2014 11:29
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How do you intend to stop douchebags coming in and seizing power?
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Sep 26, 2014 12:28
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How do you pick the leader? Even if you have a good one once how do you get an infinite line of good rulers?
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Elukka posted:How do you pick the leader? Even if you have a good one once how do you get an infinite line of good rulers? That's the problem. Nobody that would want that much power would be benevolent. What we need is some kind of system where citizens are nominated and then society vo..wait, gently caress.
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It doesn't matter what form of government you have, perfection cannot be achieved. Humanity is like a mental patient because it is disconnected. Homogenous and tight-knit populations are more connected to each other. There is a lot of disconnect in the States than in Sweden, for example.
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we need to bring back monarchy in a big way. Humanity was always at its best under the rule of kings and queens, as history shows
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I think we should have a "careocracy" where the most prolific posters on a topic are thereby given dictatorial powers
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How about this, OP: Have society structured like a military hierarchy. At birth, everyone starts out at the lowest rank, regardless of heritage. Family wealth doesn't matter because all children are raised by the state. There are no taxes, but at death, all accumulated weath and property devolves to the state. A period of military/civil service is mandatory for all citizens. Citizens advance in rank through a combination of seniority and recognition for exemplary behavior (next rank up does the judging). As you advance in rank, you also advance in "voting competence" with each tier having a vote on more complex and far reaching issues. People of the lowest rank can vote on municipal issues that have immediate local effect. Next rank up can vote on regional issues and so on. As you advance and become educated, you also gain the ability to vote on issues that require particular expertise. Issues which cross disciplines (i.e. Cloning being both a scientific and a social issue) will be open to votes from both camps (a citizen with multiple compitencies still only gets one vote per issue). In all cases, voting is compulsory unless the citizen has a waiver. Police are selected on a rotating basis in the same manner as jury duty. (specialists still require training) Ultimate leadership is a democratic council of the highest tier. Applewhite fucked around with this message at 13:47 on Sep 26, 2014 |
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The Protagonist posted:Consider a hypothetical: there's an insane mental patient attempting to act out on mortal self harm. Do you let them, or put them in a straight jacket? Lol nobody could possible care what you think about anything, you random pissant
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Sep 26, 2014 13:50
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Has anyone here heard of John Galt?
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ShaqDiesel posted:Has anyone here heard of John Galt? Whoever he is sounds like an rear end in a top hat.
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I think executive power should be granted to those with the best Steam Games list lovely games such as depression quest or gone home on there result in removal of citizenship
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CountButtula posted:I think executive power should be granted to those with the best Steam Games list Gone Home is more of an interactive novel, really. So how would you rank the games?
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Applewhite posted:Whoever he is sounds like an rear end in a top hat. not at all, here let me tell you about john galt *pulls out a copy of atlas shrugged from pouch on mobility scooter*
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