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Tautologicus posted:I'll try, but the alien culture examples and the strawmen are making that difficult at present. Frankly I think humanity should become more orky.
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skeletonotherkin posted:I'd be more curious about what makes stupid nerds attracted to deeply reactionary politics and even fascism. Stupid shut-ins holding retarded opinions seem pretty self explanatory to me 
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Sep 28, 2014 22:16
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Effectronica posted:Sounds like you're having difficulty reconciling the concept of the Other with lived human experience! Would you like to run the Existentialism Setup Wizard? There is no other. Call me a militant solipsist.
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Tautologicus posted:There is no other. Call me a militant solipsist. well in that case i dunno why everyone is so hostile to you when everything is the product of your mind. too bad there's no such thing as psychological help to get you out of your crushing depression
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Sep 28, 2014 22:17
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Everyone to the right of Jill Stein is a Fascist according to GBS
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Sep 28, 2014 22:18
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Is OP calling for the public stoning of Donald Sterling? Because as a nation, I think we should strongly consider it.
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Sep 28, 2014 22:18
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Effectronica posted:well in that case i dunno why everyone is so hostile to you when everything is the product of your mind. too bad there's no such thing as psychological help to get you out of your crushing depression Eh it's not so bad. Psychology is useless anyway, it just makes people dependent.
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Sep 28, 2014 22:20
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MizPiz posted:It's a mixed bag with the first one, but for sure with the last two. What on earth are you talking about
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Sep 28, 2014 22:21
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scratch a liberal & a fascist bleeds
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Sep 28, 2014 22:33
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Nude Bog Lurker posted:Ayaan Hirsi Ali is to Islam as Something Sensitive is to Something Awful, just fyi. So what you're saying is that there are no clits on something sensitive? drat it must be awful. Pizzagate Pedophile fucked around with this message at 09:16 on Sep 29, 2014 |
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Sep 29, 2014 09:11
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Tautologicus posted:Eh it's not so bad. Psychology is useless anyway, it just makes people dependent. Like medicine, right? People won't take care of themselves if they know they can just go to a doctor and get themselves fixed up!
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Sep 29, 2014 09:16
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Exclamation Marx posted:liberalism = trash, op
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Sep 29, 2014 09:32
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Effectronica posted:well in that case i dunno why everyone is so hostile to you when everything is the product of your mind. too bad there's no such thing as psychological help to get you out of your crushing depression western philosophy has been so tainted by christian dualist influence as to remove any applicability to the actual human condition and modern philosophy students wonder why people laugh at their degree choice
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Sep 29, 2014 15:49
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paranoid randroid posted:when i think of places that have not produced millions and millions of corpses, i think of Industrialized Europe. exactly 100 years ago, specifically. Yup we're at the centenary of the start of the European civil war that caused Western civ's crisis of confidence in itself. From flappers to hippies to hipsters to AH and Rush Limbaugh. It all started out as such a lovely sunny August too. drat shame.
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Sep 29, 2014 16:06
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:history shows long term that being a culture causes the collapse of cultures you just kick everyone out like australia, and put out a go away door mat, or be isolated like iceland.
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Sep 29, 2014 16:16
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EXTREME INSERTION posted:What on earth are you talking about He somehow thinks American liberals are neocons? Although I guess they do unintentionally vote for people who aren't much different from the later.
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Sep 29, 2014 16:32
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All the neocons were democrats first. How liberal they were is up to interpretation though. Rise of the Vulcans is a good book about the group.
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Sep 29, 2014 16:41
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Tautologicus posted:All the neocons were democrats first. How liberal they were is up to interpretation though. Rise of the Vulcans is a good book about the group. I know this, at any rate I can't make sense of what he was saying so nvm.
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Sep 29, 2014 16:42
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Tautologicus posted:All the neocons were democrats first. How liberal they were is up to interpretation though. Rise of the Vulcans is a good book about the group. lots of them were trots Disconnecticus posted:Yup we're at the centenary of the start of the European civil war that caused Western civ's crisis of confidence in itself. From flappers to hippies to hipsters to AH and Rush Limbaugh. brb gonna get all iron pilled up and start rambling about how the great war sapped the Volk of their martial vigor & pride and then maybe do some bench presses with the specter of klemens von metternich paranoid randroid fucked around with this message at 17:10 on Sep 29, 2014 |
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Sep 29, 2014 17:07
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paranoid randroid posted:lots of them were trots Good
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Sep 29, 2014 17:09
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Disconnecticus posted:Yup we're at the centenary of the start of the European civil war that caused Western civ's crisis of confidence in itself. From flappers to hippies to hipsters to AH and Rush Limbaugh. European self-destruction from 1914-1945 was extremely cool and good, as it ultimately led to the dissolution of the violently racist colonial system. Enjoy the blowback.
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Sep 29, 2014 17:11
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thank god colonial rule is over and done with and now all of the post colonial nations are doing much better than ever before.
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Sep 29, 2014 17:16
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that partition of the ottomans is working out super well
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Sep 29, 2014 17:17
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Miltank posted:thank god colonial rule is over and done with and now all of the post colonial nations are doing much better than ever before. and to think all we needed to achieve it was a mere half century of the most horrific bloodshed ever to be loosed on the earth
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Sep 29, 2014 17:27
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it's almost as if ceasing your active oppression of a people doesn't magically undo the effects of centuries of oppression and exploitation next you'll be telling me african-americans are still living in poverty and oppression even though slavery and segregation are over and we have a black president. guess they're just too culturally inferior to properly pull up those bootstraps
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Sep 29, 2014 17:28
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Miltank posted:thank god colonial rule is over and done with and now all of the post colonial nations are doing much better than ever before. Yeah, they are actually. Could do even better if they purged the remnants of colonialism and collectively showed the middle finger to your fatasses.
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Sep 29, 2014 17:29
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fspades posted:Yeah, they are actually. Could do even better if they purged the remnants of colonialism and collectively showed the middle finger to your fatasses. when I look at the faces of the a bunch happy go lucky Congolese people, I can't get over how crazy it is that the only thing that need to happen to make them that way was the worst and most violent thing that has ever happened...
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Sep 29, 2014 17:33
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paranoid randroid posted:lots of them were trots Is this even true though, or just a sloppy accusation that was only true in a few instances?
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Sep 29, 2014 17:36
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skeletonotherkin posted:Is this even true though, or just a sloppy accusation that was only true in a few instances? technically its only the really early neocons that were trots, like irving kristol. but those guys did basically midwife the movement. anyway arguing about where the True Ideological Roots of neoconservatism lie is like arguing about which brand of artificial sweetener is superior.
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Sep 29, 2014 17:41
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Miltank posted:thank god colonial rule is over and done with and now all of the post colonial nations are doing much better than ever before. Very much so. Though sentimentalizing the colonial era is popular with the historically ignorant, sperglord "neo-reactionaries," and steampunks. Probably a lot of overlap in that Venn diagram...
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Drunkboxer posted:and to think all we needed to achieve it was a mere half century of the most horrific bloodshed ever to be loosed on the earth WW2 is widely considered the "most horrific" war in history due to the fact that the Nazis employed colonialist violence against other Europeans as opposed to overseas populations. The methods were hardly novel, and the scale was eclipsed by the Chinese civil war and subsequent Maoist rule. There is nothing special about WW2, it's only that we grew up watching movies about it. White Europeans obsess over the violence they inflicted on themselves, while dismissing the equivalent violence they inflicted on non-white populations.
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Sep 29, 2014 17:49
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But..but..holocaust..chosen people..never again..remember the jews, goyim
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Sep 29, 2014 17:52
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Tautologicus posted:But..but..holocaust..chosen people..never again..remember the jews, goyim The Roma suffered much worse than the Jews, proportionally speaking, at the hands of the genocidal Nazis. Not to mention the mentally ill, gays, dissenting clergy, and so on. But we only care about one of the victim populations, because blah blah Nobel prizes... If you value groups of human beings differently, exterminating some is a greater crime than others.
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Agag posted:There is nothing special about WW2, it's only that we grew up watching movies about it. White Europeans obsess over the violence they inflicted on themselves, while dismissing the equivalent violence they inflicted on non-white populations. id say the fact that it completely reorganized the global hegemony makes it p fuckin significant
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Sep 29, 2014 17:59
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Agag posted:WW2 is widely considered the "most horrific" war in history due to the fact that the Nazis employed colonialist violence against other Europeans as opposed to overseas populations. The methods were hardly novel, and the scale was eclipsed by the Chinese civil war and subsequent Maoist rule. Hmmmm no.
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Sep 29, 2014 17:59
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liberalism is a disease hth op
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Sep 29, 2014 18:00
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paranoid randroid posted:technically its only the really early neocons that were trots, like irving kristol. but those guys did basically midwife the movement. anyway arguing about where the True Ideological Roots of neoconservatism lie is like arguing about which brand of artificial sweetener is superior. Maybe Neo-conservatism is an accelerationist plot  ?
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paranoid randroid posted:id say the fact that it completely reorganized the global hegemony makes it p fuckin significant Meh. That happens all the time.
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Sep 29, 2014 18:03
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sperg lord "accelerationists" are as bad as sperg lord "neoreactionaries"
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