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| Yes. I love Sheamus. He is the best midcard champion in years and has lots of good matches. |
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118 | 59.30% |
| No. I'm a Sheamus hater. He is the best midcard champion in years though, and has lots of good matches. (Good matches that bore me!!!) |
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81 | 40.70% |
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Imagine Brock screaming and slamming Heath Slater into every wall of the Cell while blood and piss splashes everywhere.
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Sep 30, 2014 16:00
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The one time Cole doesn't call it "The Gator Roll Designed to Disorient His Opponent" and it would have been perfectly applicable. Heath Slater won his match on Raw. That's more than Brock Lesnar did this week!
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Sep 30, 2014 16:04
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Grendels Dad posted:There is already garba... It's funny given the WWE's image as a company promoting entertainment above wrestling that the actual in ring product is the least of their problems. They have talented guys who can work, they've just been woeful at making any of it mean anything.
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Sep 30, 2014 16:06
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Teddybear posted:I remember there was the concept of a linear championship a while back which had more or less bounced around the main event crew until orton lost to Kofi and never got his win back. Did that eventually join back up with a belt? Rollins is the current linear champion, defeating Reigns by forfeit at Night of Champions. It hasn't been with the current WWE WHC since Randy Orton lost to Kofi before the Royal Rumble this year.
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Sep 30, 2014 16:12
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Okay so they have to be trying to build to Orton and Kane either turning on the Authority or just directly turning on Rollins, right? "The heels loving hate the other heel and their boss is yelling abuse at them constantly" is face turn 101. I was straight up ready for it to happen during that post match beatdown and it dodn't. Maybe they are saving it for HIAC or the post HIAC Raw?
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Sep 30, 2014 16:13
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Daniel Bryan posted:Rollins is the current linear champion, defeating Reigns by forfeit at Night of Champions. It hasn't been with the current WWE WHC since Randy Orton lost to Kofi before the Royal Rumble this year. Neat, thanks!
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Sep 30, 2014 16:15
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It's weird, because it kind of seems like the Authority is building towards a "Thumbs Down" moment with Rollins, where they get tired of him loving up. And yes, someone is welcome to post Evolution with Dinosaurs.
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Sep 30, 2014 16:15
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Writer Cath posted:It's weird, because it kind of seems like the Authority is building towards a "Thumbs Down" moment with Rollins, where they get tired of him loving up. The thing is ROLLINS isn't the weak link - Kane and Orton are the two who keep letting them down. The only thing Rollins can't get done is breaking Dean Ambrose who won't stay dead/learn his lesson/leave him alone. He's won all the battles - he just can't seem to bring an end to the war.
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Sep 30, 2014 16:18
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ScottyBomb posted:The thing is ROLLINS isn't the weak link - Kane and Orton are the two who keep letting them down. The only thing Rollins can't get done is breaking Dean Ambrose who won't stay dead/learn his lesson/leave him alone. He's won all the battles - he just can't seem to bring an end to the war. I know. But it would be easier for the Authority to cast out one impulsive hothead rather than two former world champions. Basically untested asset vs. proven commodities.
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Sep 30, 2014 16:21
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"Seth, we have to go our separate ways. It's not you, it's your crazy stalker."
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Sep 30, 2014 16:23
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ScottyBomb posted:The thing is ROLLINS isn't the weak link - Kane and Orton are the two who keep letting them down. The only thing Rollins can't get done is breaking Dean Ambrose who won't stay dead/learn his lesson/leave him alone. He's won all the battles - he just can't seem to bring an end to the war. He's won the battles because Kane and/or Orton show up and force the DQ or cheat outright during no DQ matches.
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Sep 30, 2014 16:26
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Writer Cath posted:I know. But it would be easier for the Authority to cast out one impulsive hothead rather than two former world champions. Basically untested asset vs. proven commodities. Fair point, it's not unreasonable for a heel group to just arbitrarily pick a guy to be their scapegoat. The only "meta" reason I'd argue for them not "thumbs downing" Rollins is that it would turn him. And he's just such an effective dickbag heel right now.
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Sep 30, 2014 16:26
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ScottyBomb posted:Fair point, it's not unreasonable for a heel group to just arbitrarily pick a guy to be their scapegoat. The only "meta" reason I'd argue for them not "thumbs downing" Rollins is that it would turn him. And he's just such an effective dickbag heel right now. It doesn't have to be now. As much as I want him to be champ, Rollins losing the cash in would be the ultimate reason to kick him out. They handed him everything and he couldn't get the job done. Not saying I want that to happen, because the dude's great, but if he has to lose, it could be a great catalyst.
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Sep 30, 2014 16:29
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Here's what was cut from the Hulu version of Raw. - HHH & The Miz segment - Rosa Mendes vs. Layla - Still to come segment before commercial - WWE Network hype - Dust Brothers promo - Brie Bella's entrance - Heath Slater & Titus O'Neil vs. Los Matadores - Still to come segment before commercial - Dean Ambrose recap - AJ Lee vs. Alicia Fox - Second Wyatt video - Sheamus vs. Damien Sandow - Still to come segment before commercial - Roman Reigns interview - Big Show vs. Rusev announcement for next week - Dean Ambrose entrance - A chunk of the Cena match (from the first commercial up to right before the Ambrose hot tag) Really good show and it's so much better when it doesn't drag for 3 hours.
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Sep 30, 2014 16:37
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The other meta reason for not kicking Seth out is that there would basically be no reason not to immediately reform the Shield.
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Sep 30, 2014 16:38
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Retromancer posted:The other meta reason for not kicking Seth out is that there would basically be no reason not to immediately reform the Shield. Except the part where Dean and Roman loathe Seth? ...Oh, right, WWE continuity.
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Sep 30, 2014 16:41
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Call Me Charlie posted:- HHH & The Miz segment Did HHH really just bury Miz for no reason in this segment? That's what the Observer review made it sound like.
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Sep 30, 2014 16:47
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triplexpac posted:Did HHH really just bury Miz for no reason in this segment? That's what the Observer review made it sound like. Yup. Burying their own film division in the process, because Miz can't be a real movie star, he's only in direct-to-DVD movies!
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Sep 30, 2014 16:50
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Retromancer posted:The other meta reason for not kicking Seth out is that there would basically be no reason not to immediately reform the Shield. "Give us one good reason not to kick your rear end all over this arena." "I brought eclairs." (Ten minutes later.) SIERRA HOTEL INDIA...
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Sep 30, 2014 16:53
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Gaz-L posted:Yup. Burying their own film division in the process, because Miz can't be a real movie star, he's only in direct-to-DVD movies! Miz's entire gimmick is that he's a total c-lister who thinks he's hot poo poo, but really isn't. This isn't "burying" anything.
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Sep 30, 2014 16:53
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TheJoker138 posted:Miz's entire gimmick is that he's a total c-lister who thinks he's hot poo poo, but really isn't. This isn't "burying" anything. Yeah there's just ways to go about it that play into the gimmick. Dave made it sound like HHH said "Miz your job is to entertain me, make me laugh you little jester, or I'll fire you and your crappy movie career will be done too" Like, Sheamus ripping on Miz cause he's a lovely actor so they can fight is one thing, but heel HHH making another heel out to be a bitch with zero comeuppance makes no sense to me.
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Sep 30, 2014 16:59
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TheJoker138 posted:Miz's entire gimmick is that he's a total c-lister who thinks he's hot poo poo, but really isn't. This isn't "burying" anything. Agreed, people have trouble distinguishing things like that when HHH is involved though.
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Sep 30, 2014 17:00
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Though Miz got him back on commentary with "Yeah, tell me more, Mr. Chaperone." Which is incredible because I had completely forgotten that The Chaperone exists.
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Sep 30, 2014 17:02
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I think it's silly when they have all the heels come out to beat people up and Fandango is with them.
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Sep 30, 2014 17:02
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elf help book posted:I think it's silly when they have all the heels come out to beat people up and Fandango is with them. Maybe he's hoping that one day, finally, they will all read the choreography for the big heel dance number he's put together to close out the show.
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Sep 30, 2014 17:04
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Teddybear posted:Neat, thanks! Someone's actually running a twitter account for it: https://twitter.com/WWELinear
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Sep 30, 2014 17:38
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triplexpac posted:Yeah there's just ways to go about it that play into the gimmick. Dave made it sound like HHH said "Miz your job is to entertain me, make me laugh you little jester, or I'll fire you and your crappy movie career will be done too" I mean that is pretty much what happened
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Sep 30, 2014 18:32
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You know I just realized that they are probably going to call up the Ascension to work with the authority.
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Sep 30, 2014 18:49
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achillesforever6 posted:You know I just realized that they are probably going to call up the Ascension to work with the authority. Would be totally down with this, to be honest.
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Sep 30, 2014 18:52
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Corporate vampires? Works for me
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Sep 30, 2014 18:54
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kidcoelacanth posted:Would be totally down with this, to be honest.
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Sep 30, 2014 18:57
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I have given up on RAW and didn't watch it last night, watched Nitro #2 and then the two main events of Fall Brawl 95 (Flair/Anderson and WarGames with Hulkamaniacs vs Dungeon of Doom). Turned on RAW for five minutes to see the Divas champ beat clean in the center of the ring for no reason, then Hulk become even more of a Flanderized parody of himself to shill for a crooked 'charity.' Turned it off after that, never been happier. Gonna go watch non-WWE wrestling some more now.
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Sep 30, 2014 19:05
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Call Me Charlie posted:Here's what was cut from the Hulu version of Raw. That's all the bullshit, but that leaves, like, the IC match, Bo/Henry, and part of the main event.
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Sep 30, 2014 19:07
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Everblight posted:I have given up on RAW and didn't watch it last night, watched Nitro #2 and then the two main events of Fall Brawl 95 (Flair/Anderson and WarGames with Hulkamaniacs vs Dungeon of Doom). Turned on RAW for five minutes to see the Divas champ beat clean in the center of the ring for no reason, then Hulk become even more of a Flanderized parody of himself to shill for a crooked 'charity.' You turned on for the two bad segments out of what was a pretty good three hour Raw. That's good/bad timing.
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Sep 30, 2014 19:08
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That DICK! posted:Corporate vampires? Works for me They're a lot like the original incarnation of the Acolytes actually. Big dudes with a vaguely spooky/supernatural gimmick.
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Sep 30, 2014 19:09
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That DICK! posted:Corporate vampires? Works for me As someone whose favorite thing about wrestling is insane gimmicks taken 100% seriously, what exactly is the Ascension? I've heard them refered to as vampires or devil worshipers, or sorcerers, and googling isn't helping me much.
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Sep 30, 2014 19:10
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Why cookie Rocket posted:As someone whose favorite thing about wrestling is insane gimmicks taken 100% seriously, what exactly is the Ascension? I've heard them refered to as vampires or devil worshipers, or sorcerers, and googling isn't helping me much. They started off as spooky werewolf vampires but now they're just dudes who squash job tag teams
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Sep 30, 2014 19:12
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Why cookie Rocket posted:As someone whose favorite thing about wrestling is insane gimmicks taken 100% seriously, what exactly is the Ascension? I've heard them refered to as vampires or devil worshipers, or sorcerers, and googling isn't helping me much. Goa'uld system lords.
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Sep 30, 2014 19:18
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Red posted:That's all the bullshit, but that leaves, like, the IC match, Bo/Henry, and part of the main event. ... and the opening segment, and all the dean ambrose segments, and basically everything that was actually remotely important seriously there's sooo much meaningless skippable bullshit on raw and almost everything that was cut seems like that
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triplexpac posted:They started off as spooky werewolf vampires but now they're just dudes who squash job tag teams No no that's great, UT retired, Kane is corporate again, Bray's a jobber and his stable is being broken up...but at least there are still plenty of tan white men in their thirties in black trunks, that's pretty visually engaging. Gangrel is still with Territory League Wrestling, right? And does anyone know where Boogeyman is wrestling these days?
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