Auspol October: Burqa's Backyard

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Endman: May 18, 2010; That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die

gently caress you if you have slow internet that can't load an arseload of pictures because...

The Australian Labor Party!

Who knows what the gently caress this party represents any more!

The Liberal Party of Australia!

Do you like shooty planes?
Do you like loving the poor?
Do you hate the environment?
Do you love coal?
Do you love abusing children?
Do you love to felate 83-year-old media moguls in the business of dragging humanity into a new dark age?
Then ~~kill you are self~~ vote Liberal! :razz:

The National Party of Australia

Do you think it'd be great to have a party that supports an interventionalist government that is environmentally conscious, looks after Australian agriculture and is willing the battle the supermarket duopoly to ensure Australia can continue to be a world acclaimed producer of foodstuffs? Then don't vote National you loving idiot.

The Palmer United Party!

Probably Australia's most representative party in that it's packed with dumb idiots with poo poo opinions and little to no grasp on reality, including Tassie's own Jacqui Lambie. :australia:

The Greens

You god drat latte-drinking, ABC-watching, tree-hugging, terrorist-apologist, social justice warrior piece of poo poo.
Unaustralian.
Strewth.

There are some others, but nobody cares!

IRC INFO:

IRC UP #auspol on synIRC and because some of you don�t know how to bookmark URLS here�s the IRC webclient link!

IMPORTANT MESSAGE ABOUT IRC :siren:

If you're thinking about joining us on #auspol, let me explain a few things so you aren't surprised:

We have a word filter for certain gendered insults and occasionally words that are overused for trolling. A synirc services bot will detect these words being used and kick you. We do not apologize for this and will not change it, so don't bother complaining. And just to clear this up, this is my (ewe2)'s policy and not some random event. If you don't like it, go away. The bot will also kick for repeating phrases and will ban you for flooding.
We STRONGLY SUGGEST that you register your nick with Nickserv so we can add you to the voiced list. To do so, just
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The email part is optional.
Once you've registered, message one of the ops so we can add you to the list. Once you're on the voiced list, if we need to moderate the channel to cut down on the chaos, you will be able to take part in conversations. We can't just voice everyone all the time, so this is YOUR RESPONSIBILITY. Once you're added, you must
code:
```
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when you join IRC to get voiced in our channel! It's a good idea to test all this out for yourself.
In some cases we may need to ban those intent on disrupting the channel. The reasons should be obvious, and follow the same basic guidelines as SA itself.

Also, just a casual reminder that under new laws everyone who posts in this thread is going to jail.

# ? Sep 30, 2014 09:38

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# ? May 8, 2024 18:33

Tokamak: Dec 22, 2004

handily takes first post.
noice op

# ? Sep 30, 2014 09:43

Ler: Mar 23, 2005; I believe...

I'm a nobody and I approve of this OP.

# ? Sep 30, 2014 09:51

GoldStandardConure: Jun 11, 2010; I have to kill fast
and mayflies too slow; Pillbug

Can the rule for October be that all analogies be plane based?

# ? Sep 30, 2014 09:56

CROWS EVERYWHERE: Dec 17, 2012; CAW CAW CAW; Dinosaur Gum

Wait a loving second, ewe2 is Endman? I never knew this and now I feel... I don't know what I feel. :ohdear:

# ? Sep 30, 2014 09:57

Endman: May 18, 2010; That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die

CROWS EVERYWHERE posted:

Wait a loving second, ewe2 is Endman? I never knew this and now I feel... I don't know what I feel.

Nah, I'm not ewe2. I just copy/pasted his post for the IRC info.

Because :effort:

# ? Sep 30, 2014 09:59

Anidav: Feb 25, 2010; ahhh fuck its the rats again

What is this, Sim City?

# ? Sep 30, 2014 10:00

CROWS EVERYWHERE: Dec 17, 2012; CAW CAW CAW; Dinosaur Gum

Endman posted:

Nah, I'm not ewe2. I just copy/pasted his post for the IRC info.

Because

Oh, that's okay then. Peace has been restored.

# ? Sep 30, 2014 10:00

Doctor Spaceman: Jul 6, 2010; "Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Anidav posted:

What is this, Sim City?

Oh, it's the Q Society, of course.

Doctor Spaceman fucked around with this message at 10:04 on Sep 30, 2014

# ? Sep 30, 2014 10:02

hambeet: Sep 13, 2002

GoldStandardConure posted:

Can the rule for October be that all analogies be plane based?

Well I'm not gonna shoot down such a good idea.

# ? Sep 30, 2014 10:03

Lizard Combatant: Sep 29, 2010; I have some notes.

And here come the lovely, fly-by pun posters

:f35:

# ? Sep 30, 2014 10:11

ewe2: Jul 1, 2009

Endman posted:

Nah, I'm not ewe2. I just copy/pasted his post for the IRC info.

Because

I am ewe2 and I approve this message.

# ? Sep 30, 2014 10:16

Skellybones: May 31, 2011; Fun Shoe

Anidav posted:

What is this, Sim City?

You can't spread Islam! YOU WILL REGRET THIS!

# ? Sep 30, 2014 10:20

epipen: Aug 11, 2014; nyoom

Lizard Combatant posted:

And here come the lovely, fly-by pun posters

:f35:

christ we really need to make my ' :retrogames:

but a plane' thing into a reality. I'm gonna work on that.

# ? Sep 30, 2014 10:22

adamantium|wang: Sep 14, 2003; Missing you

GoldStandardConure posted:

Can the rule for October be that all analogies be plane based?

# ? Sep 30, 2014 10:26

Endman: May 18, 2010; That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die

adamantium|wang posted:

Pretty scathing indictment of the ALP's credibility tbh

# ? Sep 30, 2014 10:33

simmyb: Sep 29, 2005

GoldStandardConure posted:

Can the rule for October be that all analogies be plane based?

Sounds like a datum for an excellent thread

# ? Sep 30, 2014 10:46

Coq au Nandos: Nov 7, 2006; I think I would say to my daughters if they were to ask me this question... A shitpost is the greatest gift that you can give someone, the ultimate gift of giving and don't give it to someone lightly, that's what I would say.

Good OP Endman

# ? Sep 30, 2014 10:49

Drugs: Jul 16, 2010; I don't like people who take drugs. Customs agents, for example - Albert Einstein

More like the Poo Society.

Owned.

# ? Sep 30, 2014 11:00

hambeet: Sep 13, 2002

Lizard Combatant posted:

And here come the lovely, fly-by pun posters

:f35:

Your just soar your last pun run didn't take off.

# ? Sep 30, 2014 11:26

Splode: Jun 18, 2013; put some clothes on you little freak

Nice OP, glad to see you worked shootplanes in

# ? Sep 30, 2014 11:32

Lawman 0: Aug 17, 2010

Hi I'm an American can anyone explain to me why Abbot has decided to go full neocon right now?

# ? Sep 30, 2014 11:32

Doctor Spaceman: Jul 6, 2010; "Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Lawman 0 posted:

Hi I'm an American can anyone explain to me why Abbot has decided to go full neocon right now?

A combination of Abbott's desire to look tough, and his desire to repeat all of Howard's policies.

# ? Sep 30, 2014 11:37

Splode: Jun 18, 2013; put some clothes on you little freak

Lawman 0 posted:

Hi I'm an American can anyone explain to me why Abbot has decided to go full neocon right now?

This was what he was born to do

# ? Sep 30, 2014 11:38

Cleretic: Feb 3, 2010; Can't post for 3 hours!

Lawman 0 posted:

Hi I'm an American can anyone explain to me why Abbot has decided to go full neocon right now?

Your flaw with this statement is that it implies he ever intended to do anything else.

Cleretic fucked around with this message at 12:15 on Sep 30, 2014

# ? Sep 30, 2014 11:40

I would blow Dane Cook: Dec 26, 2008; Can't post for 46 hours!

Bad OP, voted 1

# ? Sep 30, 2014 11:44

Drugs: Jul 16, 2010; I don't like people who take drugs. Customs agents, for example - Albert Einstein

Jumpingmanjim posted:

Bad country, voted 1

# ? Sep 30, 2014 12:16

Deuterious: Oct 17, 2011

Haters Objector posted:

More like the Poo Society.

Owned.

Look who's about to get a visit from John de Lancie.

Actually that would be pretty cool.

# ? Sep 30, 2014 12:19

Aaronicon: Oct 2, 2010; A BLOO BLOO ANYONE I DISAGREE WITH IS A "BAD PERSON" WHO DESERVES TO DIE PLEEEASE DONT FALL ALL OVER YOURSELF WHITEWASHING THEM A BLOO BLOO

Anidav posted:

What is this, Sim City?

Oh hey, home town represent. It'd be nice to have a religious instutution here that isn't dominated by the Exclusive Brethren. Who will now no doubt step up their preaching outside work as a protest to this, I'm sure.

# ? Sep 30, 2014 12:27

I would blow Dane Cook: Dec 26, 2008; Can't post for 46 hours!

lol

quote:

More and more morbidly obese Australians are tapping into their superannuation reserves to foot the huge bills for life-prolonging weight-loss surgery.

In a trend that's only likely to grow and grow, tapping in to money meant for retirement has become a popular means of covering their medical costs for people seeking surgical help to drop their excess bulk � costs which can run to five figures.

It's an avenue taken by Sydney administration worker Fiona Wardrop, 32, who two years ago tipped the scales at 135 kilograms.

Going under the knife was a last resort option for the mother of three whose battle to keep off the kilos had been perennial.

"I've tried all my life, dieting and trying to eat healthy," she says. "My stomach was so expanded, nothing was going to work." After consulting an upper gastrointestinal surgeon, Wardrop opted for a sleeve gastrectomy. An irreversible procedure, it involves the surgical removal of a large portion of the stomach; reducing it to around a quarter of its original size.

Alternative procedures include the insertion of a laparoscopic adjustable gastric band, known as a lap band, around the top portion of the stomach to slow food consumption and gastric bypass surgery.

Fiona Wardrop after her weight-loss surgery.
Fiona Wardrop after her weight-loss surgery.
The procedures do not attract a Medicare rebate and costs vary between doctors and facilities. At Sydney's O Clinic, privately insured patients have out-of-pocket expenses of $5950 for their surgery and after-care package, while those paying their own way face a bill of around $21,000. Around 10 per cent of patients access superannuation to fund their treatment, according to O Clinic practice manager Sara Bowles.

The number of Australians undergoing weight loss surgery has soared in recent years � up from around 500 in 1998-99 to 17,000 in 2007-08, according to the Australian Institute of Health and Welfare's 2010 report on weight loss surgery in Australia.

Wardrop had no health insurance and says she was quoted around $10,000 to have her surgery through the public hospital system or $20,000 in a private facility.

Having no access to a sum of that size, she jumped at her surgeon's suggestion to apply for early access to her superannuation to cover the costs.

"I'd heard through the grapevine but didn't know how true it was � that you could do this," she says.

Applications for early release of superannuation on medical grounds must be approved by the Department of Human Services.

Applicants need to supply letters from their GP and specialist certifying that their condition is life threatening and provide proof that expenses cannot be met by other means, including savings.

Wardrop's was one of 5157 medical treatment and transport applications received by the Department in 2012-13. Of these, 3709 were approved, with an average payment per application of $10,255.

Given her family history of diabetes, cancer and hypertension, her case met the criteria, Wardrop says. Her $10,000 was released by her fund, First State, within two weeks of lodging the application and nine months after surgery she had dropped a whopping 81kg; bringing her weight down to just 57kg.

She subsequently dipped in again for a further $20,000 to cover a tummy tuck and breast implants; taking her super balance down to nil.

Well worth emptying the pot for, particularly given the decades she has remaining in the workforce to rebuild her retirement savings, Wardrop says: "I could have died in five years and now at least I've used the money and I've extended my life. It was worth it." An ongoing obesity epidemic appears to have resulted in more doctors recommending medical intervention for high risk individuals, according to Pauline Vamos, CEO of the Association of Superannuation Funds of Australia, the peak body for the sector.

She says she is comfortable robust procedures are in place to prevent the approval of early super claims for conditions which are not life threatening. "It's a detriment to society if this is being abused," Vamos says.

"Doctors do need to sign certificates and provide opinions. I hate to think that doctors would compromise their ethics [by pushing through illegitimate claims]."

Tucking in early
When it comes to superannuation, what goes in can't come out � except when funds are needed to prevent foreclosure on the mortgage on a principal residence, or in circumstances known as "specified grounds". These include:

Medical treatment for life threatening conditions or acute chronic pain for yourself or a dependant
Medical transport to access treatment
Modifications to the family home if you or a dependant become disabled

# ? Sep 30, 2014 12:32

Ler: Mar 23, 2005; I believe...

In other news, Libs, Palmer forever poo poo

quote:

https://newmatilda.com//2014/09/30/lawyers-say-new-immigration-law-targets-10-month-old-oz-born-asylum-seeker-baby
Lawyers Say New Immigration Law Targets 10-month Old Oz-Born Asylum Seeker Baby

The Abbott Government - with the help of Palmer United - have introduced legislation targeting asylum seeker babies. Max Chalmers reports.

Lawyers representing a 10-month-old asylum seeker have blasted a Bill that would prevent children born in Australian detention centres from applying for protection visas.

Katie Robertson, an Associate in law firm Maurice Blackburn�s social justice department, told New Matilda the Bill appears to have been designed in response to a matter currently before the Federal Circuit Court, and could have dire consequences for 95 children born in mainland detention.

The case involves baby Ferouz, a Rohingya asylum seeker whose family had been placed in detention on Nauru.

Since Ferouz�s mother was transferred to Australia to give birth last year, lawyers have been fighting on behalf of her son, who they argue should not be classified as an �Unauthorised Maritime Arrival� and has the right to obtain a protection visa.

�It�s very clear and very apparent that this section of the Bill is a response to this case,� Robertson said.

Robertson told New Matilda the retrospectivity of the legislation meant a legal victory for baby Ferouz and his family would be nullified if the Bill passes into law.

�Despite the fact this Bill has been dressed up as a win for a number of people who are currently still in Australia and have been previously unable to apply for a visa, there are a number of babies, including Ferouz, who are going to be much worse off,� Robertson said.

Robertson derided the Bill�s retrospective changes as �against the fundamental tenet of the rule of law in Australia�.

The backward looking nature of the legislation means that, if passed into law, it will spell trouble for 94 other babies born in detention and facing removal from the mainland.

These children have only remained in Australia because of an undertaking the Department of Immigration has given to lawyers representing them not to make any removals until after the Faruez case is resolved.

Concerns about the appropriateness of keeping children in detention on Nauru have been raised repeatedly at the Australian Human Rights Commission�s inquiry into children in detention, and there have been worrying signs of a spike in self-harm this week, including among the children held in the island�s detention centre.

The new legislation, a joint effort of the Palmer United Party and Immigration Minister Scott Morrison, was introduced to parliament last Thursday and includes a range of major changes to Australian migration law.

A section of the Bill attempting to reintroduce two new types of Temporary Protection Visa has so far garnered the most attention.

Last week, the Human Rights Law Centre flagged concerns about the Bill�s retrospective reclassification of children born in detention.

�These children were born right here in Australian hospitals, yet the Bill seeks to classify them as unauthorised maritime arrivals and leave them liable to transfer offshore. Not only is that cruel, it�s patently absurd,� Director of Legal Advocacy Daniel Webb said.

Response from the Minister for Immigration has been sought.

# ? Sep 30, 2014 12:37

Brown Paper Bag: Nov 3, 2012

Two times in the past week I have heard a story on Hack about Furries. This country truly is going to the dogs.

# ? Sep 30, 2014 12:42

Doctor Spaceman: Jul 6, 2010; "Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Brown Paper Bag posted:

Two times in the past week I have heard a story on Hack about Furries. This country truly is going to the dogs.

Chris Kenny has infiltrated the ABC :siren:

# ? Sep 30, 2014 12:47

Fruity Gordo: Aug 5, 2013; Neurotic, Impotent Rage!

Ahahaha one of my best mates is a producer for hack, I had no idea they were doing furry stories! They did a piece on trolling a few months ago which she asked for my help with. I was going to try to get IWC for her, but she found some freaks of her own. :3:

Fruity Gordo fucked around with this message at 13:04 on Sep 30, 2014

# ? Sep 30, 2014 13:02

AVeryLargeRadish: Aug 19, 2011; I LITERALLY DON'T KNOW HOW TO NOT BE A WEIRD SEXUAL CREEP ABOUT PREPUBESCENT ANIME GIRLS, READ ALL ABOUT IT HERE!!!

Ler posted:

In other news, Libs, Palmer forever poo poo

Why don't you guys just get on with it and start building gas chambers?

# ? Sep 30, 2014 13:36

Budzilla: Oct 14, 2007; We can all learn from our past mistakes.

AVeryLargeRadish posted:

Why don't you guys just get on with it and start building gas chambers?

Living in Australia is much worse than death I welcome the chambers.

# ? Sep 30, 2014 14:09

Gough Suppressant: Nov 14, 2008

AVeryLargeRadish posted:

Why don't you guys just get on with it and start building gas chambers?

We would have but we had this toxin tax.

# ? Sep 30, 2014 14:11

Freudian Slip: Mar 10, 2007; "I'm an archivist. I'm archiving."

Just a reminder about Xylo's Australian Care package. You have just over a month now to get your donations in/presents sent.

Thanks to the goons who have already chipped in or have offered to make something awesome like Fruity.

Hambeet has offered to be the �treasurer� and collect money through his paypal (like he did for AMU�s ban)

If you want to take part, I have created a google doc like we used in Mafia to chat. Feel free to leave suggestions, let us know if you plan on chipping in or sending a gift through to me.

The google doc is at
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qHwwV7qEMIE58wcE1-2WIsT69jkZPWiSP3ejQxT4Myo/edit?pli=1#gid=0

If you have any questions (like Hambeet�s Paypal account), you can either PM me or if you don�t have PMs you can email
xylopresent at gmail dot com

Which will be periodically checked

# ? Sep 30, 2014 14:11