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Would've voted Green, but discovered that this is usually a swing seat (not safe as I'd assumed given current incumbent & infamous council), so probably Labour. Area has a pretty high contingent of crazies, there is always BNP, EDL and UKIP candidates getting 5% each, so any flight from Con/Lib Dem to UKIP/Lab would prob give Lab an OK chance of getting in here.
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Oct 1, 2014 09:18
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UKIP have just chosen their South East Cornwall candidate, 20-year old Bradley Monk.
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Oct 1, 2014 09:33
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serious gaylord posted:Did Jack Straw do anything truly horrid?
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Oct 1, 2014 09:34
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KKKlean Energy posted:UKIP have just chosen their South East Cornwall candidate, 20-year old Bradley Monk.
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Oct 1, 2014 09:36
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KKKlean Energy posted:UKIP have just chosen their South East Cornwall candidate, 20-year old Bradley Monk. What happens if he grows out of his university libertarian phase.
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Oct 1, 2014 09:38
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I'm in Powys so voting for Labour would be pointless, it's Lib Dem or Conservative and Lib Dems are going to need the help. Thankfully Roger Williams has been pretty good at voting the way Lib Dems should, rather than the way they have of late so it's not that bitter a pill to swallow.
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Oct 1, 2014 09:47
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KKKlean Energy posted:UKIP have just chosen their South East Cornwall candidate, 20-year old Bradley Monk. wait, that's not a school uniform?
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Oct 1, 2014 09:49
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Depends where I am come the election. Labour in a marginal (as someone put it last thread, that Rizla paper is of literally vital importance to some people), some green or socialist party in a safe seat.
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Oct 1, 2014 09:53
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This time around I'm really putting a lot of thought into the election and what I should do with my ballot, and I'm wondering if drawing a massive bell end ejaculating a hammer and sickle would represent my political standing better than scrawling down the chorus to L'Internationale.
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Oct 1, 2014 09:57
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I've moved from a safe Tory seat to a safe Labour seat so probably Greens as always.
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Oct 1, 2014 10:08
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Green, since they have much the best policies. I have done the whole tactical voting thing before, and then the Blairite government turned out to be a greater disaster for the left than another Major government would have been. Much the same policies and corruption, but at least the Tories would have got the blame.
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Oct 1, 2014 10:24
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DesperateDan posted:This time around I'm really putting a lot of thought into the election and what I should do with my ballot, and I'm wondering if drawing a massive bell end ejaculating a hammer and sickle would represent my political standing better than scrawling down the chorus to L'Internationale. I think they make you look equally childish.
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Oct 1, 2014 10:29
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peanut- posted:As much as they've been ineffectual at stopping the Tories for the last four years, I generally agree with Lib Dem policies more than the other two parties. As someone who read The Orange Book on the run up to that general election to understand what they think outside the PR bubble, I can tell you that you either don't know the lib dem politics or you are disenfranchised by the Tories but don't want to vote UKIP because you're pro EU. Edit: I went through all this last election and I keep bringing it up because its one of the keystones in the modern Libdem party. Nick Clegg, Edward Davey, David Laws, Chris Huhne, Vince Cable, Mark Oaten (stood down in 2010), Steve Webb, Susan Kramer and such. It's mostly the Liberal side of the Liberal Democrats in the big seats in the party. Funny factoid I discovered though when I was reading into who Paul Marshall back in the last election was, apart from being a big wealthy pin stripe suit guy he is also the father of Winston Marshall from Mumford & Sons and he pretty much funded them quite well. Middle aged accountants having midlife crisis. Anyway I will most likely do some effort posts going into it prior to the election. Fluo fucked around with this message at 11:11 on Oct 1, 2014 |
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Oct 1, 2014 10:31
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Voting for: Some variety of trots (not SWP) or Greens or, if presented with neither option, a spunking cock drawn on my ballot where the splattered semen spells "gently caress you"
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Oct 1, 2014 10:37
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peanut- posted:As much as they've been ineffectual at stopping the Tories for the last four years, I generally agree with Lib Dem policies more than the other two parties. So basically you agree with Tory policies then. I'm in Hackney North and Stoke Newington which is such a safe seat for Labour that it really doesn't matter who I vote for. Will vote Green unless Monty Goldman has got himself on the ballot again.
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Oct 1, 2014 10:38
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A group of referendum staff in the Highland count were relieved of duties for being openly partisan for Yes. Story on the Beeb site.
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Oct 1, 2014 10:44
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Jedit posted:I think they make you look equally childish. That really made me sit back and strongly reconsider my position, obviously more than one cock is required. I will label one of the spatters of jism in your honour though, would you like a boxed close up of a badly drawn spermatozoa smoking a spliff too? Seems far more productive than picking the colour of rosette the neo-liberal shitbag party in power wears
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Oct 1, 2014 10:52
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DesperateDan posted:That really made me sit back and strongly reconsider my position, obviously more than one cock is required. I will label one of the spatters of jism in your honour though, would you like a boxed close up of a badly drawn spermatozoa smoking a spliff too? Tell us why we should spoil our ballots.
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Oct 1, 2014 10:53
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Gonna vote Green because gently caress it, why not. They seem like the least poo poo. Holding my nose and voting Labour simply because the Tories are going full satanic doesn't appeal.
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Oct 1, 2014 10:53
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Grapevine now has it that Cameron's closing tory conference speech will have at least one big tax giveaway and that UKIP have a new defector lined up.
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Oct 1, 2014 10:53
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Oct 1, 2014 10:59
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Gonzo McFee posted:Gonna vote Green because gently caress it, why not. They seem like the least poo poo. Holding my nose and voting Labour simply because the Tories are going full satanic doesn't appeal. Personally for me there is far too many anti-science issues, which goes down to the hard core Green politics such as animal experiments, GMO, nuclear, homeopathy and the like. Until 2010, the UK's Green Party had rather unambiguous views on the issue too: they wanted an EU wide ban on embryonic stem cell research. Parts of a statement from Caroline Lucas were reminiscent of the religious right: quote:Personally, I remain concerned about the associated health risks, the commodification of eggs and embryos, and the potential exploitation of women. Increasing research suggests that there are a number of promising alternatives, for example adult stem cell research, and umbilical cord stem cell research. Our choices about the future of energy supply need to be based on solid evidence, yet let's consider the UK Green Party's attitude to the evidence about nuclear power. In 2003 they published a report, enthusiastically endorsed by Caroline Lucas, that claimed "radioactive releases up to 1989 have caused, or will eventually cause, the death of 65 million people worldwide." The research into this report was written by the rather absurd figure of Chris Busby, who apparently for many years was the Green Party's main "expert" source on nuclear issues. I put scare-quotes round expert here for in late 2011 he was exposed for attempting to sell ineffective "anti-radiation" pills to people in the Fukushima region. For years the Green Party grounded their opposition to nuclear power in junk science, and it appears it still does. If all of this leaves you unconvinced of the marriage of irrational, unscientific, and unethical attitudes by many green organisations then you should read about the history of opposition to golden rice, an innovation that has the potential to greatly reduce human suffering. The Green Party cherry pick their evidence to reinforce their views and pander to the extreme side of the Green party.
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Oct 1, 2014 11:02
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The Green party are a joke, yeah. No idea how they're so popular. Desperate, disenfranchised lefties I suppose.
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Oct 1, 2014 11:05
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I live in an extremely safe Tory seat, so my vote against will count for nothing.  Will still be voting Labour despite Milliband being a useless wet blanket though, on the grounds that they're the least-worst option and I'd sooner stab myself in the balls than vote Lib-Dem again after what happened when they actually got a sniff of power. loving Orange Bookers.
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Oct 1, 2014 11:05
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Saki posted:The Green party are a joke, yeah. No idea how they're so popular. Desperate, disenfranchised lefties I suppose. Pretty much, it's not like there's anyone else to fill the niche.
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Oct 1, 2014 11:13
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Carrier posted:Erection chat: Who are people itt planning on voting for in the next election? I see a lot of talk of the tories being hosed and the lib dems being hosed and also labour being hosed from various people so I guess it would be interesting to know rather than who people think aren't going to get in, the people they are actually going to vote for.  Current area is safe enough by the last count that even if there was some unholy coalition of Lib-Dem/Labour/BNP/UKIP tactical voting together for ?? it would still be a Tory win. Maybe UKIP will split the Tory vote this time, but I doubt it. I don't think a Green candidate is even running. Fluo posted:Tell us why we should spoil our ballots.
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Oct 1, 2014 11:16
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Payndz posted:I live in an extremely safe Tory seat, so my vote against will count for nothing. 
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Oct 1, 2014 11:18
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LemonDrizzle posted:It also gives a tax break to everyone in the country who's earning between £10k and £120k (or potentially £170k if we assume that people earning six figures+ will max out their pension contributions), the inevitable implication of which is a reduction in the availability and/or quality of public services and support that will disproportionately affect those on lower incomes. If you want to increase the disposable income of people earning the minimum wage, increase the minimum wage. Aye but we're talking about the current promises made by the main parties as compared to UKIP. Or at least I was. Obviously if we're talking about what would be more effective than a tax break for supporting the working class, I would recommend full communism.
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Oct 1, 2014 11:23
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Guavanaut posted:Because when your ballot form looks like the Bristol stool chart, at least a spoiled ballot goes towards increasing the likelihood that Nazi Bob's Shitbag Party doesn't get their deposit back. If you can't bring yourself to vote for any of the candidates it's still a better move than not voting, and should be encouraged for the currently apathetic. You know you don't have to vote for that Nazi Bob's Shitbag Party [whatever party you're talking about]. If you want them to not get their deposit back you vote for another party. It's not that hard. If you fail to grasp the concept that you will never 100% agree with a political party because otherwise there would be a party for ever 5 people in UK, I truly don't know what to tell you. Vote for the party closest to your politics and if the answer is "none" you're either some weird student yellow-anarchist or you're not being true to yourself. Don't want UKIP to get in? Vote a party other than UKIP. Worried about the Tories? vote another party, worried about Labour? vote another party. Worried about Lib Dems? Vote another party. Spoiling your ballot then complaining the tories got in power again takes quite a bit of double think.
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Oct 1, 2014 11:24
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Carrier posted:*in slightly politically incorrect asian voice* Erection chat: Who are people itt planning on voting for in the next election? I see a lot of talk of the tories being hosed and the lib dems being hosed and also labour being hosed from various people so I guess it would be interesting to know rather than who people think aren't going to get in, the people they are actually going to vote for. Labour all the way here. At least agitating for social justice occurs, so i'm content with that.
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Oct 1, 2014 11:27
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Fluo posted:You know you don't have to vote for that Nazi Bob's Shitbag Party [whatever party you're talking about]. If you want them to not get their deposit back you vote for another party. It's not that hard.
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Oct 1, 2014 11:28
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Fluo posted:Tell us why we should spoil our ballots. I live in a safe tory seat and my vote literally counts for nothing at all, as a lukewarm rancid dog turd with a blue rosette would win handily among my ancient and bigoted townsfolk. So I either get to stay at home, or I can take a walk and amuse myself in a childish way. What's the other option? (ignoring that my vote literally counts for three tenths of fuckall), vote labour like they are somehow different from the tories? In every substantial way, they are just the same shower of shites who will pander to the same interests. Why should people spoil their ballots? The walk down to the polling station and back is better for your health than staying at home and not voting. Face it, whether team red or team blue win, the game being played is the same.
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Oct 1, 2014 11:28
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I live in a Tory safe seat with the Lib Dems being the only other real runner. So either Green, Labour or spoiling the ballot.
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Oct 1, 2014 11:28
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I moved from one hilariously safe Labour seat (represented by the Rt Hon Edward Samuel Miliband MP) to another hilariously safe Labour seat (represented by Dr Tristram Julian William Hunt FRHistS MP) so my vote is worth the same as a fart in the wind.
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Oct 1, 2014 11:29
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The current political parties represent a very narrow band of the political spectrum and if you are left wing your only choices are a centre right party that pays lips service to you while taking you for granted, a party that has decent left wing policies but awful policies for its core focus or (even more) fringe parties. I've no interest in spoiling my own ballot but I can see why people would want to opt out of voting for the least bad option when they're still pretty bad.
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Oct 1, 2014 11:31
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"It is the Conservatives who are the party of social justice" - Michael Gove, introducing David Cameron's closing speech
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Oct 1, 2014 11:36
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Fluo posted:Personally for me there is far too many anti-science issues, which goes down to the hard core Green politics such as animal experiments, GMO, nuclear, homeopathy and the like. Until 2010, the UK's Green Party had rather unambiguous views on the issue too: they wanted an EU wide ban on embryonic stem cell research. Parts of a statement from Caroline Lucas were reminiscent of the religious right: Mate if you're this concerned about the lack of scientific understanding in politics you'd still be voting green. Their economic policies seem to be the only ones based on some kind of reason, rather than magical austerity logic. IDGI. I can't remember the last time I saw people criticising labour/conservative environmental or scientific policy over their economic policies.
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Oct 1, 2014 11:40
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nuzak posted:Mate if you're this concerned about the lack of scientific understanding in politics you'd still be voting green. Their economic policies seem to be the only ones based on some kind of reason, rather than magical austerity logic.  Mate if one of your main voting stances is staying in Europe you'd still vote UKIP.   
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SNP. Doing my part to make Scotland slightly more marginal and hopefully to cause Labour to poo poo itself into becoming vaguely less terrible up here. Our MP is the standard Labour 2010 intake of beep-boop party line robots. Just in time here are Labour led councils doing their best to alienate both their current Scottish voters, and voters who'd probably go their way: Councils move to collect unpaid tax from thousands who signed up for indyref vote quote:THOUSANDS of people who signed up to vote in the independence referendum face the prospect of official letters landing on their doormats demanding unpaid council tax. Genuinely,  Labour. Although that last point from Glasgow is telling, they know how hosed they are if they try this.
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