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hookerbot 5000
Dec 21, 2009

Pissflaps posted:

Isn't that what he said?

I don't think the dad was the daughters accountant, just that the mum asked him to look at someones finances and organise a repayment scheme they could take to the debt collectors without telling him who the person was.

I'm a bit surprised they can still collect Poll Tax from 20 years ago, but then there's no statute of limitations on money owed to the council is there? It just seems to be a lot of hassle for them to go to to collect money that they can't have been expecting to get after this length of time.

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hookerbot 5000
Dec 21, 2009
I guess it boils down to what is a feminist. I think of myself as a feminist because I believe in the equal rights and treatment of women but I don't write books or blogs or do anything really about it. Are feminists only the people who work to further the cause? Maybe it's like how some people call themselves christian because they believe all the religion stuff but don't go to church or say grace before eating.

hookerbot 5000
Dec 21, 2009

Zephro posted:

I'm a feminist. I'll fight you if you don't like it

edit: not you, hookerbot5000, just the general "you"

As a woman I'm happy for anyone to be a feminist :)

hookerbot 5000
Dec 21, 2009

HorseLord posted:

Well why use that as an example? All this penis ownership and soforth? I want nothing to do with transphobes.

Because some people think that if someone used to have a penis they can't be a feminist, just like some people (e.g. all your friends) believe that currently having a penis means that someone can't be a feminist. If I google for a bit I'm sure I could find some people who think that anyone who is happy to have penises near them in a sexual context can't be a feminist either.

The point was just that penises are not automatically inhibitors of feminism no matter what their context.

hookerbot 5000
Dec 21, 2009

HorseLord posted:

None of my friends tie having a penis with not being a feminist, because none of my friends tie having a penis with gender.

Why do you?

You're right and I am sorry for any offence caused.

But men can be feminists.

hookerbot 5000
Dec 21, 2009

Renaissance Robot posted:

Anyone have any experience with paypal refunds? I tried to buy a sweater from China and am now the proud owner of a huge box of mystery pills. :frogdowns:

I've done it a couple of times, once when someone was obviously just a scammer and didn't send the item and another when some ink cartridge company sold me ink that didn't work in my printer so they told me to send it back (which I did) then didn't send any replacements or answer any of my emails. Both times it got sorted pretty quickly and I got my money back no problem.

hookerbot 5000
Dec 21, 2009

Jack the Lad posted:

I think the main thing is a young disabled child with wealthy parents is not affected by benefits cuts/ATOS assessments/etc.

It's apples and oranges.

I think that's the thing. Having a child with severe disabilities or losing a child at such a young age must be one of the hardest experiences a person can go through and the idea that money makes it better flies in the face of the idea that some things are more important than money when you don't have any experience of what having no money means on a day to day level. Not being able to take time off from your minimum wage job for appointments or to provide support to your partner, not being able to work because the cost of specialised care is far higher than the amount you would earn, not being able to afford a funeral.

Personally I don't really think David Cameron is using his son in a kind of 'gently caress that dead kid I had once, I'll score some points with it' way - he probably does think he understands how parents of disabled children feel. That doesn't excuse him though.

Edit: It's just made me think of the month my daughter was born when I was stuck in the maternity ward then she was in Paisley NICU and I was stressing out about tax credits because we were spending two hundred a week extra travelling up and down the road. I'm sure the all consuming worry and stress about my baby being a hundred miles away from me would have been the same if I was a millionaire, but the additional stress over travelling costs and my husband taking so much time off work made a bad situation worse. And I was lucky - if my husband didn't have a supportive boss, if we didn't have a car, if I didn't have family who I know I can rely on for help, if it wasn't such a short term issue.

hookerbot 5000 fucked around with this message at 13:36 on Oct 16, 2014

hookerbot 5000
Dec 21, 2009

CancerCakes posted:

Due to our lovely housing market I am going to have to rent a flat unseen. Am I covered by distance selling, if so how?

I'm cold and wet in Manchester and have had 3 flats taken from under me today.

I think you might be, I had to cancel a lease recently (student accomodation for kids) and looked into it a bit. This is from 2005 though so God knows.

quote:

Distance sales schemes – cooling off periods
3.84 Landlords or agents must ensure that they comply with the requirements of
the Distance Selling Regulations where applicable and provide a 'cooling off'
period (see also Group 18(f)). The Distance Selling Regulations will apply
when the landlord or agent is using an organised distance sales scheme,
letting properties without any face-to-face contact with the prospective
tenant,29 for rental agreements for short leases of under three years. On
occasion, contracts may be entered into over the phone or by other means,
and similarly a short 'cooling off period' must be allowed for the tenant to
read and get advice on the terms. This helps achieve fairness since tenants
can pull out without loss of deposit or other penalty if they find the agreement
is not what they expected. Not all tenancy agreements have to be in writing,
but those that are for a fixed term of longer than three years do have to be
prepared as a deed.


https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/284440/oft356.pdf

edit: what happened in my case was I said I wanted to cancel the lease, they said no I'd have to pay a cancellation fee and find someone else to take the room or I'd be liable for the years rent, I said that was breaking the terms of distance selling, they said that completely unrelated to any legal reasons they would cancel my lease and I never heard from them again.

hookerbot 5000 fucked around with this message at 14:17 on Oct 21, 2014

hookerbot 5000
Dec 21, 2009

HorseLord posted:

It's absolutely a helpful philosophy. With the ACAB mindset it motivates you to stay the away from police. And if you stay away from police, you don't end up dealing with the consequences of interacting with them.



But the main time you would voluntarily interact with the police would be if you had to report a crime against you, it's not like you have an option to stay away from the police if they're actually out looking for you.

hookerbot 5000
Dec 21, 2009

Oooh, I voted in that election. The options were pretty limited though, labour, conservative, SNP and an independent. The guy who won the first time in July dropped dead within two weeks of winning.

hookerbot 5000
Dec 21, 2009
Scotland is cutting the drink driving limit.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-29750001

I don't really drink (not for any reasons, I just don't) so it doesn't bother me, but it will be interesting to see if it has much of an impact and if so whether the rest of the UK will follow.

hookerbot 5000
Dec 21, 2009
He added a bit more stroppiness on his facebook post

quote:


I'm angry at the sudden presentation of a €2 billion bill to the UK by the EU. It is a completely unacceptable way to treat one of the biggest contributors to the EU – and an appalling way to behave. I am not paying that bill on 1st December. It is not happening.


(someone on my facebook friends list is apparently a fan of his :()

hookerbot 5000
Dec 21, 2009

Andre Le Fuckface posted:

He's going to pay it he seems more annoyed at the short notice rather than the bill itself

There was an article in the Guardian that said that it was pretty unlikely that the countries involved didn't know it was coming

quote:


Did the member states know and agree to this?

Yes.

Member states are in agreement with how contributions are calculated. And, critically for this specific case argued in favour of the statistical revisions to how economic performance is calculated - for obvious reasons - these, it is worth remembering, have allowed many countries to show better than previously thought economic growth and, in some cases, a smaller debt relative to GDP.

How the bills will be paid in December remains unknown, but despite this morning’s surprised faces and bullish remarks, it is highly unlikely that member states did not know, or did not anticipate, these figures. The calculations are even based on data provided by member state governments themselves.


http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2014/oct/24/britains-two-billion-euro-bill-explained

hookerbot 5000
Dec 21, 2009
Bonfire night is a pain in the arse though, fireworks terrify pets and babies and ragamuffins see it as a day they can go round setting fire to stuff with impunity. The saving grace is that it's in the soggy period of the year, so when they set fire to the hill behind the school it doesn't get a chance to spread too far before the fire engines get there.

Edit: We're not very good at fireworks up here though https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6QtigLJD_4

hookerbot 5000 fucked around with this message at 11:36 on Oct 27, 2014

hookerbot 5000
Dec 21, 2009

Pissflaps posted:

I mean that some people maintain multiple accounts. I'm not sure why, perhaps to amplify their message and offer the illusion of consensus?

I'd think it would be to have one account for rational discussion and the other to go round calling people cunts.

hookerbot 5000
Dec 21, 2009

That must of been one hell of a convincing tiger suit.


ThomasPaine posted:

Quick question for any older members here: do any of you know when the Jobcentre started employing bouncers? Curious for a little thing I'm writing.

They've had them for at least 7 years (that was the last time I spent any length of time in a job centre). They also wouldn't let me use my mobile phone in case I was casing the joint though I wouldn't be surprised if they've relaxed that rule.

Edit: It was a small town Scottish job centre

hookerbot 5000 fucked around with this message at 12:45 on Oct 28, 2014

hookerbot 5000
Dec 21, 2009

Gorn Myson posted:

I might just start posting pictures of puppies and kittens in here, just to lighten up the mood. Although I'm pretty sure we'd find a way to somehow devolve that into a pedantic argument about something that no one actually cares about in that instance too.

Very slightly puppy related, some guy shot his partner and her daughter on a puppy farm after the police took his guns away then gave them back to him (even though they'd been told he'd tried to hire a hitman to kill them).

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/oct/29/police-investigation-man-guilty-puppy-farm-murders

quote:


“I might have been fed up with them. I wasn’t angry with them one little bit.”


No real political commentary though, just the police are poo poo and I'm really glad guns aren't very common here.

hookerbot 5000
Dec 21, 2009

Burqa King posted:

In the FT today, an MP wants everyone to get an annual statement from the NHS about how much theyve had spent on them in a year, with alternatives (Lemsip) pricelisted beside the really silly items. It's to shame people from going to the doctor with frivolous complaints such as colds and so on.

Not a charge at point of service but a good start IMO

I can't see that working, I would guess that most people don't go to the doctors because they have a cold and they want some lemsip, they go to the doctors because they don't know what's wrong with them and are concerned it might be something serious.

hookerbot 5000
Dec 21, 2009

Burqa King posted:

No they don't prescribe lemsip. They say drink lots of hot fluids and take paracetamol for the pain. 40,000 people went to the doctor for dandruff in 2012 too.


I don't really see what's wrong with that to be honest, if it was bad dandruff and stuff from the shop didn't help.

I had really bad acne for years and years. It was pretty poo poo. I tried all the stuff you could get in Boots etc, nothing made a difference then one time when I was at the doctors for something I asked them, they gave me some magic cream and bam! no more acne since.

It sounds like a really stupid minor thing that's probably next on the list of "you won't believe what people waste doctors time with" that I should have just lived with but getting rid of it really made a difference.

hookerbot 5000
Dec 21, 2009

Burqa King posted:

Last year, 7m outpatient appointments were missed at a cost of £700m. Tbh I think the statement idea is ok. After all, there's a bloke who went to Japan itt who only realised how much he was costing the NHS because of an itemised bill. No mainstream party is bringing in paid appointments so let's not worry about those. Let's think of clever nudges such as these.

I for one will look forward to an itemised statement telling me how much my miscarriage cost the government.

Edit: We are so lucky having the NHS.

hookerbot 5000 fucked around with this message at 15:10 on Oct 29, 2014

hookerbot 5000
Dec 21, 2009

serious gaylord posted:

You shouldnt be going to a GP with a sprained wrist. You should be going to A&E as a GP will just send you there anyway. I like to think even the most lay of layman would go to A&E if they thought they'd broken a bone.

I thought my kid had sprained his wrist when he fell out of a tree, turned out he broke his arm in two places. He didn't even seem to think it hurt that much - I only took him to the doctor (after three days) because of the swelling.

hookerbot 5000
Dec 21, 2009

Jose posted:

Other than retail jobs, where else are 0 hour contracts regularly used?

A lot of care work is I think.

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hookerbot 5000
Dec 21, 2009

HortonNash posted:

I had a very good friend who was a chef (executive chef at a famous castle for a time) and I was always horrified at his stories of the workplaces he passed through in London, and the sheer contempt that the restaurant trade has for staff (both working conditions, hours and stuff like sexual harassment, sexism, racism and homophobia). The stories of hazing junior kitchen staff, with the blessing of management, are terrifying.

When my brother was 15 he was working as a KP for 60 hours a week for £90, and they treated him like utter poo poo (as in one night the head chef pinned him down and shaved his head while the owner watched and laughed about it).

My older brother did make the owner cry though.

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