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Yaldabaoth
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
You know how when something bad happens christians say that it was God testing their faith? Well if you read the bible you'll see they're mostly right except God doesn't go around testing people's faith himself

He has Satan do it for him

Satan was assigned this role in the cosmic order by God himself to separate the true believers from those who worship only because they've never faced adversity and he's only too happy to fulfill it because he hates humans and sees them as weak flawed things unworthy of the glory of God. When you hail Satan, you're hailing an entity who hates you even more than God does and can't wait to see you fall from grace so when you die he can take out his hatred on you by burning your soul in a river of fire

So basically, Satanism makes 0 theological sense even in the context of the religion it branches off from and just serves as a way to indicate when some one hasn't researched the bible anymore than the average christian has

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Cardiovorax
Jun 5, 2011

I mean, if you're a successful actress and you go out of the house in a skirt and without underwear, knowing that paparazzi are just waiting for opportunities like this and that it has happened many times before, then there's really nobody you can blame for it but yourself.
hail satan

Alas Boobylon
Sep 30, 2014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eyt3GO7DpSo

Joust
Dec 7, 2007

No Ledges.
Yeah but he gave us devilled eggs explain that athiests.

Cosmik Slop
Oct 9, 2007

What's a hole doing in my TARDIS?


I'm really sorry you obviously grew up in a household where the idea of a cruel, vengeful Satan was pushed on you. I hope some day you can learn the true love and understanding of our dark lord.

Junkfist
Oct 7, 2004

FRIEND?
But what if the Bible lied to you and Satan is the good guy like in some animes?

TURTLE SLUT
Dec 12, 2005

Hail satan 666! That guy is great

ashgromnies
Jun 19, 2004
actually all the stuff in the bible is make believe so it's fine and okay to hail satan

Effectronica
May 31, 2011
Fallen Rib

Yaldabaoth posted:

You know how when something bad happens christians say that it was God testing their faith? Well if you read the bible you'll see they're mostly right except God doesn't go around testing people's faith himself

He has Satan do it for him

Satan was assigned this role in the cosmic order by God himself to separate the true believers from those who worship only because they've never faced adversity and he's only too happy to fulfill it because he hates humans and sees them as weak flawed things unworthy of the glory of God. When you hail Satan, you're hailing an entity who hates you even more than God does and can't wait to see you fall from grace so when you die he can take out his hatred on you by burning your soul in a river of fire

So basically, Satanism makes 0 theological sense even in the context of the religion it branches off from and just serves as a way to indicate when some one hasn't researched the bible anymore than the average christian has

uh hello? gnosticism?????

ziasquinn
Jan 1, 2006

Fallen Rib

Junkfist posted:

But what if the Bible lied to you and Satan is the good guy like in some animes?

God is the main characte in death note

ziasquinn
Jan 1, 2006

Fallen Rib
Also the temple of Satan is a satirical institution, op

Please cite your sources before you make me real post!!

Effectronica
May 31, 2011
Fallen Rib

Your Dead Gay Son posted:

Also the temple of Satan is a satirical institution, op

Please cite your sources before you make me real post!!

he's talking about goons doing it, and he's right. theistic satanism is generally neopaganist bullshit, and laveyan satanism isn't a religion so much as an elaborate excuse for being a dick

Waroduce
Aug 5, 2008
Hail Satan

Miltank
Dec 27, 2009

by XyloJW
capitalism is demonic

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008
i think a being with an insatiable desire to witness human failure is actually a pretty appropriate object of worship for goons

Miltank
Dec 27, 2009

by XyloJW
You can lol at jesus when he says that this world is sinful but he was right then and he is doubly right now. read the gospels as they apply to our society today and you will see the truth that is found within. Even if you don't believe in god you can still be a christian.

Yaldabaoth
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth

Miltank posted:

capitalism is demonic

No Capitalism is just Calvinism with a physical way to measure how much some one is blessed by God

Verisimilidude
Dec 20, 2006

Strike quick and hurry at him,
not caring to hit or miss.
So that you dishonor him before the judges



The two satanists I know are pretty rad though one is kinda radically anti-Christian/Catholic/Muslim/Jew

Miltank
Dec 27, 2009

by XyloJW
calvinism has nothing to do with capitalism actually

e:calvinism is good, for example whereas capitalism is bad.

GreatGreen
Jul 3, 2007
That's not what gaslighting means you hyperbolic dipshit.

Miltank posted:

Even if you don't believe in god you can still be a christian.

No, you cannot. You can cherry-pick a Christianity-themed moral compass to follow, but that doesn't make you Christian. To be a Christian you have to believe in the invisible contradictory sky wizard or no deal.

Miltank
Dec 27, 2009

by XyloJW
yeah you can just follow the teachings of jesus of Nazareth

whoflungpoop
Sep 9, 2004

With you and the constellations
id s his d

Effectronica
May 31, 2011
Fallen Rib

Miltank posted:

yeah you can just follow the teachings of jesus of Nazareth

uh the two commandments of jesus are love the lord god with all your heart, mind, soul, and strength and love thy neighbor as thyself.

Miltank
Dec 27, 2009

by XyloJW
you gotta love and believe in goodness, true.

Smoking Crow
Feb 14, 2012

*laughs at u*

Miltank posted:

calvinism has nothing to do with capitalism actually

e:calvinism is good, for example whereas capitalism is bad.

If you read any textbook on the Protestant Reformation, they will mention the affect of capitalism and how it lead to Protestantism. All Protestantism is capitalism.

Poppleganger
Jul 29, 2004
AR$E
hail black satan

Miltank
Dec 27, 2009

by XyloJW

Smoking Crow posted:

If you read any textbook on the Protestant Reformation, they will mention the affect of capitalism and how it lead to Protestantism. All Protestantism is capitalism.
I am a leveler.

(you are wrong)

Tricky D
Apr 1, 2005

I love um!
Lol if you think satanists sincerely worship satan.

Effectronica
May 31, 2011
Fallen Rib

Miltank posted:

you gotta love and believe in goodness, true.

god is a personified entity within the recorded sayings of jesus, even within gnostic texts like the gospel of thomas

Smoking Crow
Feb 14, 2012

*laughs at u*

Miltank posted:

I am a leveler.

(you are wrong)

http://www.sparknotes.com/philosophy/protestantethic/summary.html

Rush Limbo
Sep 5, 2005

its with a full house
I literally worship the demiurge what now

givepatajob
Apr 8, 2003

One finds that this is the best of all possible worlds.
Satanists have much better music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yosDDDAmE2g

Miltank
Dec 27, 2009

by XyloJW

Effectronica posted:

god is a personified entity within the recorded sayings of jesus, even within gnostic texts like the gospel of thomas

Yes that is true, but that was then and we know a lot more about the universe now and can logically infer that God is ultrapersonified ie god has infinite perspective and experience and therefore unrelatable to man except through christ.

e:if you don't want to believe in god you can still be a christian so long as you believe in goodness because none of us can actually know God anyway.

Miltank fucked around with this message at 16:02 on Oct 3, 2014

Hungry Joe
Nov 27, 2006

DDFH

Effectronica posted:

satanism isn't a religion so much as an elaborate excuse for being a dick

This op, it's not real.

Miltank
Dec 27, 2009

by XyloJW

you said it backwards the first time I wouldn't deny that protestantism had a role in the rise of capitalism

Yaldabaoth
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth

Hungry Joe posted:

This op, it's not real.

Doesn't make them look like any less of an idiot even if it was real

Effectronica
May 31, 2011
Fallen Rib

Yaldabaoth posted:

Doesn't make them look like any less of an idiot even if it was real

theistic satanists are real and are massive loving dweebs, like the vast majority of vast neopagans

"oh ashtaroth, please accept this birthday cake-scented candle and smite my enemy with the flu so that he might run out of sick days"

Xachariah
Jul 26, 2004

Effectronica posted:

he's talking about goons doing it, and he's right. theistic satanism is generally neopaganist bullshit, and laveyan satanism isn't a religion so much as an elaborate excuse for being a dick

ya, who'd want to worship beta pussy bitch satan?

he doesn't even rule in hell, god rules in hell, satan is just some jailbird

satanists are like those crazy girls who marry serial killers in jail because their lives are so boring

The Cosby Mysteries
Oct 5, 2007

Happy Birthday, Mr. President
i always assumed satanists were just atheists and agnostics trying to troll christians and society at large rather than an actual belief based religion

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Bro Dad
Mar 26, 2010


apparently it worked

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