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 UFC Fight Night 53: Nelson vs. Story - Stockholm, Sweden (October 4th) Gunnar "Gunni" Nelson (13-0-1)  Facts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLifyl4cGJU Rick "The Horror" Story (17-8)  Facts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUZgOQ5QX_Q Main Card (UFC FightPass) - 3:00PM EDT / 12:00PM PDT
 UFC Fight Night 54: MacDonald vs. Saffiedine - Halifax, Nova Scotia (October 4th) Rory "Ares" MacDonald (17-2)  Facts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pX-b3CKXI-A Tarec "Sponge" Saffiedine (15-3)  Facts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sC1juwuj34k Main Card (Fox Sports 1) - 10:00PM EDT / 7:00PM PDT
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nONpDqy6zvo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bz-64TItVN8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmgxEg-1fQk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLb2d7SML4A
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Five Russian/Chechen/Dagestani fighters - is this being co-promoted with M-1 Global?
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Oct 3, 2014 16:44
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The only thing I recognize in these weigh-ins so far are the ugly orange seats of the local arena
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Oct 3, 2014 20:17
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Even by mma standards, that is a remarkably stupid-looking haircut.
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Oct 3, 2014 20:28
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Assuncao coming in at 135 is a good sign for him, iirc he's had some rough cuts in the past
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Oct 3, 2014 20:31
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I'm excited to see Tarec fight someone who may, idk, consider checking his leg kicks Since Rory is a VERY ADVANCED,,,, TECHNICAL,, striker this may come into play
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Oct 3, 2014 20:41
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I dont remember his more recent fights but in his earlier ones he fought in the gsp/mcgregor style lunge which isnt great for checking kicks
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Oct 3, 2014 22:40
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I think we're all in agreement about wanting to see Bryan Caraway get knocked out? Or coast to a decision loss.
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Oct 4, 2014 00:32
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Ewar Woowar posted:I think we're all in agreement about wanting to see Bryan Caraway get knocked out? Or coast to a decision loss. Subbed in 15 seconds
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Oct 4, 2014 00:36
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Ewar Woowar posted:I think we're all in agreement about wanting to see Bryan Caraway get knocked out? Or coast to a decision loss. Destroyed over 3 rounds, so he can't say that it was an early stoppage.
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Oct 4, 2014 00:58
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Have they explained why they're having 2 fight nights in one day? prelims start at noon  Like someone said, it's 12 hours of UFC with only a few fights worth watching.
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Oct 4, 2014 01:58
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Ewar Woowar posted:I think we're all in agreement about wanting to see Bryan Caraway get knocked out? Or coast to a decision loss. Mauled by an escaped tiger.
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Oct 4, 2014 02:07
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Trast posted:Mauled by an escaped tiger. Nova Scotia is well known for its tigers so this could happen.
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Oct 4, 2014 03:08
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david carmichael posted:I dont remember his more recent fights but in his earlier ones he fought in the gsp/mcgregor style lunge which isnt great for checking kicks The only damage Woodley managed to inflict in their fight came through low kicks but rory quickly started to get the timing and counter punched with straight rights ,I don't think he even tried to check them once . hump day bitches! fucked around with this message at 04:42 on Oct 4, 2014 |
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Oct 4, 2014 04:40
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Lamadrid posted:The only damage Woodley managed to inflict in their fight came through low kicks but rory quickly started to get the timing and counter punched with straight rights. I think it's safe to say that Tarec's kicking game is way better than Woodley's but will be severely limited by the threat of the takedown.
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Oct 4, 2014 04:43
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Tezcatlipoca posted:I think it's safe to say that Tarec's kicking game is way better than Woodley's but will be severely limited by the threat of the takedown. I dunno, do you figure Rory is really that much better a wrestler than Marquardt? (This is in no way an endorsement of Marquardt, who is bad)
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Oct 4, 2014 04:59
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Tezcatlipoca posted:I think it's safe to say that Tarec's kicking game is way better than Woodley's but will be severely limited by the threat of the takedown. hump day bitches! fucked around with this message at 05:01 on Oct 4, 2014 |
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Oct 4, 2014 04:59
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Lamadrid posted:I haven't seen tarec fighting but Cerrone put a clinic against alvarez on how to kick box and defend the takedown. "I haven't seen Tarec fight, but a guy with no relation to him put on a clinic against a guy who also has no relation to him!"
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fatherdog posted:I dunno, do you figure Rory is really that much better a wrestler than Marquardt? You've got a point. Also, I don't remember the last time Rory tried to wrestle anyone. Then again I can barely remember anything about his fights even though I've seen all of his UFC fights.
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Oct 4, 2014 05:03
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Tezcatlipoca posted:You've got a point. Also, I don't remember the last time Rory tried to wrestle anyone. Then again I can barely remember anything about his fights. I think Rory has really good GnP from the top when he does get people down, but his wrestling is only okay and benefits a lot from him having been outstriking the majority of people that he got takedowns on.
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Oct 4, 2014 05:05
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fatherdog posted:I dunno, do you figure Rory is really that much better a wrestler than Marquardt? Probably not now that I think about that. Please don't make me hopeful.
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He expended too much energy and got tired
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Tezcatlipoca posted:You've got a point. Also, I don't remember the last time Rory tried to wrestle anyone. Then again I can barely remember anything about his fights even though I've seen all of his UFC fights. Rory is a pretty intelligent fighter, he looks to keep people outside with his jab early and then when there's a minute or so to go he likes to shoot in on a guy or press them against the cage and earn the round in a more dominant fashion. When he gets guys in bad positions he's punishing on top, but he's not a mauler who looks for the finish, he's a methodical dude in both departments. He struggles against southpaws for the same reason most jab heavy orthodox fighters do, but he's good enough to beat saffedine. I think Tarec could benefit from working Rory's body and legs with kicks, but I have only seen him fight once so I don't know what to say about his take down defense or his ability to force a guy into scrambles. I'm almost willing to bet the house on Rory by points, but MacDonald doesn't have an all world chin and saffedine can do pretty major damage from the clinch.
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BlindSite posted:When he gets guys in bad positions he's punishing on top, but he's not a mauler who looks for the finish, he's a methodical dude in both departments. He struggles against southpaws for the same reason most jab heavy orthodox fighters do, but he's good enough to beat saffedine. I think Tarec could benefit from working Rory's body and legs with kicks, but I have only seen him fight once so I don't know what to say about his take down defense or his ability to force a guy into scrambles. Saffiedine's stance is also a possible challenge for Rory offensively, because it sets up the inside leg kick. Those don't have quite the same risk of getting caught and converted to a takedown. If Saffiedine is successful smothering the jab and working the inside of Rory's lead leg, Rory could be in some serious trouble. The way Tarec kicks the legs, MacDonald can't take many of those before his movement and especially his shot start to leave him--and if he isn't moving well, can't shoot effectively, and his jab isn't working, I don't know what assets he has. Good body kicks, I guess? There's also the issue of his heart or lack thereof, which might be exaggerated but I really don't see him as having the guts to get mauled for several rounds only to gut his way back into the fight the way Lim did.
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Oct 4, 2014 05:46
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EvanSchenck posted:I really don't see him as having the guts to get mauled for several rounds only to gut his way back into the fight the way Lim did. The people you could say this about number in the billions.
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Oct 4, 2014 05:53
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Tezcatlipoca posted:The people you could say this about number in the billions. true, true just trying to say, Rory is way more of a front-runner than a closer so I think if Saffiedine starts hurting him early he might never get started
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fatherdog posted:"I haven't seen Tarec fight, but a guy with no relation to him put on a clinic against a guy who also has no relation to him!" It wasn't my intention to compare directly but to comment that there are ways to work around the threat of the takedown without losing the capability to kick the poo poo out of someone 
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Lamadrid posted:It wasn't my intention to compare directly but to comment that there are ways to work around the threat of the takedown without losing the capability to kick the poo poo out of someone yeah crocop exists
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Oct 4, 2014 06:13
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fatherdog posted:I think Rory has really good GnP from the top when he does get people down, but his wrestling is only okay and benefits a lot from him having been outstriking the majority of people that he got takedowns on. Does that include Condit? Or was it just because Condit's takedown defence is Diaz-esque?
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Snowman_McK posted:Does that include Condit? Or was it just because Condit's takedown defence is Diaz-esque? He took Condit down a lot but so does everybody else. IIRC that fight was actually fairly close in the stand up but Rory was winning because of the takedowns, the problem with Condit being he's really good at getting back up but that just means he gets taken down a million times. I really think that fight can be chalked up to experience, I think Rory had never had a guy who could take everything he gave him and just keep coming, and he broke eventually.
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Oct 4, 2014 11:09
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Ewar Woowar posted:I think we're all in agreement about wanting to see Bryan Caraway get knocked out? Or coast to a decision loss. Nope. He's going to win and it's going to be very funny.
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Oct 4, 2014 12:39
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rrrrrrrrrrrt posted:Nova Scotia is well known for its tigers so this could happen. Climate change is really kicking in I see.
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Oct 4, 2014 12:55
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Snowman_McK posted:Does that include Condit? Or was it just because Condit's takedown defence is Diaz-esque? I said "the majority"; Condit is in the minority of people he took down easily without outstriking. Because, as mentioned, Condit's takedown defense is hot garbage.
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Oct 4, 2014 13:27
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I don't understand how he could be so good at everything else, but so terrible at that. Like I know he's not a wrestler, but come on man.
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Oct 4, 2014 14:13
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Dangersim posted:I don't understand how he could be so good at everything else, but so terrible at that. Like I know he's not a wrestler, but come on man. Pobody's Nerfect
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Oct 4, 2014 14:37
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Dangersim posted:I don't understand how he could be so good at everything else, but so terrible at that. Like I know he's not a wrestler, but come on man. Sometimes people naturally become better at things, and sometimes people naturally don't become better at things. Pete Spratt has been training grappling since 1999. GSP was already outwrestling ncaa champions two years into his career. Time and effort spent training is always a big factor, but people naturally improve at a different skills at different rates for a wide variety of reasons.
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Oct 4, 2014 14:40
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No I know, it's just such a stark contrast to see a guy be so good at everything and then when someone shoots on him it's like he didn't know you were allowed to do that. Like when he started defending takedowns against Kampmann I was literally shocked.
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Dangersim posted:No I know, it's just such a stark contrast to see a guy be so good at everything and then when someone shoots on him it's like he didn't know you were allowed to do that. I think he used to be one of those guys that thought his guard was so good that he wouldn't bother training takedown defense. He probably hasn't been training wrestling that long, relative to how long his career has been.
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Oct 4, 2014 15:12
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rrrrrrrrrrrt posted:Nova Scotia is well known for its tigers so this could happen. Of the mustard variety?
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I'm surprised Akira Corassani is such a huge underdog
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