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Cnut the Great
Mar 30, 2014

FizFashizzle posted:

one year i had a job interviewing people at dragoncon for some third rate production company in atlanta. i got a press pass and got to go backstage or whatever. The entire cast of serenity was there that year and it was a big deal. the line to see them was around the block. every single one of the fans was some obese person in terrible suspenders.

i'd never seen an episode of this show so I didn't know what the big deal was.

at some point I had to take a piss so I went to the backstage bathrooms they'd set up. there was a dude in the urinal beside me so naturally i just stared straight at the wall and didn't say a single thing (because that would be gay).

when we were washing hands I realized it was nathan fillion. He looked exhausted and miserable but I didn't realize he was in firefly.

"Hey man," I said. He turned to me like he was about blow his brains out right in front of me. "You were really good in Saving Private Ryan."

His face lit up, he sighed loudly, put his hand on my shoulder and said, "You have no loving idea what that means to me."

Then his thousand yard stare returned and he went back into the sweating masses. I didn't put two and two together until a year later.

i can confirm this actually happened

don't ask me how. i just can

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Cnut the Great
Mar 30, 2014
joss whedon ruined the Alien franchise by directing the shittiest movie in the series. then he blamed it on the writer

Cnut the Great
Mar 30, 2014
i only watch porn

Cnut the Great
Mar 30, 2014

Gallow posted:

Let's make sure we put the hate in the proper place here. Joss was the writer, but Jean-Pierre Jeunet directed it. Why anyone thought getting the French Terry Gilliam to direct an Alien sequel was the right call is more confusing. I'd still rather watch that one than Alien 3.

no, that's wrong. would it really be so difficult for you to doublecheck on wikipedia or something before you try to "correct" someone?

Cnut the Great
Mar 30, 2014

Who What Now posted:

You know what's even goonier? The fedora-tipping retards that proclaim themselves to be above such petty things as liking or disliking a show.

You know what? I watched the show. I liked it. I own the DVDs. I wore an orange knit Jayne cap to work and social functions. But now I watch and obsess over other television shows. It's no big deal. I wasn't ever that into Firefly, and now I couldn't care less about it. It's been years. I only play with my replica Wash plastic dinosaurs once every two weeks, tops. So yeah, people who are really into it still, unlike me, are pretty weird. But it's also pretty weird to be really not into it. Everyone should be more like me, a not-weirdo. Sure, I regularly employ prostitutes. But I don't tell them to roleplay as Inara anymore--I tell them to roleplay as my mother, like a normal person who isn't obsessed with pop culture trash.

Cnut the Great
Mar 30, 2014

Lowtax posted:

I never saw Firefly, and that's because of its fans.

I've never had sex, because people who talk about sex all the time are weird.

Cnut the Great
Mar 30, 2014

Shasta Orange Soda posted:

this would be a great point if watchign dumb sci-fi poo poo was a biological imperative for nearly every species on earth

I don't know what point you think I'm trying to make. I just wanted everyone to know that I'm a virgin.

Cnut the Great
Mar 30, 2014

Will you be my first? I feel like we've kind of got a Sam and Diane thing going on here.

Cnut the Great
Mar 30, 2014

Lowtax posted:

I've never compared watching a television show to having sex, because people who would say that are stupid.

I know it's stupid, Lowtax. That's what was supposed to make it funny. I'm sorry.

Cnut the Great
Mar 30, 2014

redshirt posted:

Buffy and Angel are awesome TV shows and you suck if you don't agree. If you've never watched them, your loss.

I agree. But Firefly was only okay. It wasn't amazing or anything. But if Fox hadn't hosed it over so flagrantly, its fanbase probably wouldn't be as annoying as it is.

Cnut the Great
Mar 30, 2014

gnarlyhotep posted:

I hate myself for getting this reference

"I understood that reference." (Reference to Marvel's The Avengers, written and directed by Joss Whedon.)

Cnut the Great
Mar 30, 2014

Popular Human posted:

the great irony of Firefly is that it's now a cautionary tale for networks and resurrecting failed TV shows. It had a rabid, devoted fanbase that bought DVD sets for their family and friends and managed through sheer word-of-mouth and stubbornness to get the show remade into a feature film.... which didn't even hit #1 it's opening weekend and fizzled out immediately after.

I'm sure in the decade+ since there's been several cancelled TV shows that have gone to other networks and said "hey, give us another chance" and the executives looked at Firefly and said "haha, nope."

i think the lesson was: don't take a cult sci fi show that was aired out of order, shuffled around time slots, and cancelled before it could build an audience, and then release it as a stand-alone feature film and expect it to make lots of money. no one should have needed a "cautionary tale" to realize that wouldn't work. if whedon was doing anything other than conning the studio into giving him some up-front cash to fund his pet project, then he's an idiot.

also the movie wasn't very good, but it got mostly positive reviews from critics, so i'm pretty sure people stayed away because they had no idea what it was, not because of its inherent shittiness

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Cnut the Great
Mar 30, 2014

redshirt posted:

Veronica Mars.

i don't know what anyone who wasn't a fan could possibly get out of that movie. i barely got anything out of it as a fan, which is impressive given the lengths they went to to try to pander to us

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