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BottledBodhisvata
Jul 26, 2013

by Lowtax
Let's ring in October right. Welcome to Demon's Souls.



In the Northern Kingdom of Boletaria, a calamity has arisen.

A colorless fog has swept across the land. Demons have risen from the depths and have begun to consume the souls of men, leaving armies of the mad and depraved in their wake. Everything is in ruin. Mankind faces extinction. The world needs a hero. Many have attempted to take that title. Saints and sinners, wanderers and warriors...and one more, a lone knight, returning to his kingdom to try and make sense of the senseless. This is his story.

But seriously, what is going on here?

So, I shall be doing a run where we will be sporting this Fluted set as a constant set of equipment--everything else about Geoffrey's journey will be up to you. Will he pursue the soul arts? Will he find comfort in his great faith? Will he be a man of great strength or expert speed? Will he stay with his shield and sword, or will he branch out and try some new weapon he picks up along the way? That decision will be put to vote--you shall decide what sort of man Geoffrey will be. A savior? Or a new sort of demon? What path will he take? What foes will he face?

After a certain point, I will put all of these decision up to a vote, and whatever the thread decides shall be poor Geoffrey's fate.

Of course, that's not all there is to see here. I'll also be sprinkling updates about with some real-world information about the various armor sets and weapons we find in the game. We'll study the lore of the game, and maybe we'll factor in the multiplayer if we can manage it. We'll be a little informative, a little entertaining--there's something for everybody. So, welcome to Boletaria--let's begin!

Episode List

Episode 1: Sir Geoffrey vs. the Vanguard: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HG2YYwBAwSg

Episode 2: Sir Geoffrey vs. The Black Knight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0p-W2Bfw-SU

Episode 3: Sir Geoffrey vs. The Phalanx: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FXHfCs5DZ8

Episode 4: Sir Geoffrey vs. The Nexus: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYOCquQhgtk


Episode 5: Sir Geoffrey Punches Skeletons: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYP7EnluY7o

Episode 6: Sir Geoffrey vs. King Hippo The Adjudicator: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KHbazXM0ZQ

Episode 7: Sir Geoffrey and the Search for True Love (director's cut): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JprJwcmOg0M

Episode 8: Sir Geoffrey vs the Armor Spider: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPr9eYXHJ74

Episode 9: Sir Geoffrey and the Power of Friendship: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOvpg8yYoE4


Episode 10: Sir Geoffrey Changes the World: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfOQ4CaDiFY

Episode 11: Sir Geoffrey vs. The Tower of Latria: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFAameApylw

Episode 12: Sir Geoffrey Dies: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnLu5p41pDo

Episode 13: Sir Geoffrey and the Infinite Sadness: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTKsWa3qx_U

Episode 14: Sir Geoffrey the Red Hot Hero: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IokArwheavE

Episode 15: Sir Geoffrey Commits Great Sin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GeNVH6BlB4

Episode 16: Sir Geoffrey The Most Splendid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hP6oUnbKHjQ

Episode 17: Sir Geoffrey and the Hands of God: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAwzFApQD8U

Episode 18: Sir Geoffrey vs. the World: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qg0a1QcGZvA

Episode 19: Sir Geoffrey and the Sludge Trudgehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3xh3svmvuE

Episode 20: Sir Geoffrey vs. The Pure Blood Demon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioZFeQpSox8

Episode 21: Sir Geoffrey Searches the Storm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-2WJ1L5Dn8

Episode 22: Sir Geoffrey Dies on the Stairs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9YWEoPJbS8


As of Episode 22, the audience is to vote on:

Whatever they want! We're nearly done with the game.

Weapons available:
Bastard Sword (requires 18 STR to one-hand)
Scimitar
Crossbow
Longsword +1
Mail Breaker
Halberd
Falchion
Compound Long Bow
Kilij
Uchigatana
Crescent Falchion
Silver Catalyst
Rapier
Estoc
Secret Dagger
Claw
Baby's Nail
Dragon Bone Smasher
Meat Cleaver
Scraping Spear
Dozer Axe


Accessories:
Cling Ring
Thief's Ring
Ring of Herculean Strength
Ring of Regeneration
Graverobber's Ring
Ring of Magical Sharpness

Spells:

Soul Arrow -- Magic Projectile
Flame Toss -- Fire Projectile
Enchant Weapon -- Gives your weapon magical damage
Protection -- Weak Defense Buff
Cloak -- Masks footsteps
Water Veil -- Raises Fire Defense

Miracles:

Heal -- Heals you a little
Antidoe -- Cures poison
Evacuate -- Returns you to the Nexus
Hidden Soul -- Obscures you from Black Phantoms. Largely useless.

BottledBodhisvata fucked around with this message at 19:43 on Apr 16, 2015

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BottledBodhisvata
Jul 26, 2013

by Lowtax
Sharp-Dressed Man--A guide to Armors

The Maximillian Armor



Named after the Holy Roman Emperor Maximillian I, the Maximillian Armor is a 16th-century German plate armor whose fluted shape is what gives it its in-game name, the Fluted Set. The shape allows the armor to deflect sword attacks, and the armor itself represents a shift in styles of armor-making--moving away from the plain but functional 15th century armors and towards the elegant and elaborate Renaissance sets. It is an armor that was meant to resemble fashionable clothing of the period, especially the sleeves.

The armor is functional as well as fashionable. Even the bulging of the belly and the slope of the helmet serve to enhance its protective nature--if it is difficult to land a direct hit on the steel, it's difficult to kill the man inside, and in an era before the popularity of firearms, such a design would be immensely valuable on the field. The curve of the gut would make it hard for a stab to punch through. The fluting of the helmet was known as wolfzähne or wolf's teeth in German.



In-game, the Fluted set is a solid piece of armor, in a game that many say doesn't really favor heavy armor. It offers decent protection, but little special favors like other armor sets do. It isn't as powerful as the Mirdan set, another starting armor, nor special armors like the Gloom set. Still, it offers decent stats and, most importantly, it looks great. It is about the equivalent to the Elite Knight Armor from Dark Souls. With starting stats, you have a very slow roll and slow stamina regeneration while wearing it, though this can be fixed with the right levels.

Peasant Clothes

So we picked up the Ragged set in the previous video. Now, actually, we haven't gotten the complete set yet, and there'll be a different armor update for it when we finish it proper. However, at the moment the only meaning this armor set has for us is that it is crap, rotted and full of insects.

Demon Souls Item Description for Ragged Robes posted:

Robe made of layers of ragged fabric. It's covered with tears, unsightly open seams, and numerous unsightly insects wriggling within it. No sane person would dare wear something like this…

Sounds pleasant. So what did actual peasants wear?



Medieval clothes provided information about the status of the person wearing them. The clothing and fashion during the Medieval era of the Middle Ages was dominated and highly influenced by the Kings and Queens of the era. Only the wealthy could dress in fashionable clothes. Sumptuary Laws restricted people in their expenditure including money spent on clothes. The head-dress worn by people during the Middle Ages immediately conveyed the rank of the person.

The Medieval peasant clothing was basic and practical. The dress of the men in the lowest ranks of society was always short and tight, consisting of breeches, or tight drawers, mostly made of leather, of tight tunics or doublets, and of capes or cloaks of coarse brown woollen. The tunic was confined at the waist by a belt, to which the knife, the purse, and sometimes the working tools were suspended.

Leather Armor

Leather armor is a very rudimentary form of armor and almost certainly predates plate and metal armors. Leather armor has been used by pretty much every culture on Earth and would be made up of varying types of hides, depending on available wildlife. In pre-Qin dynasty China, leather armour was made out of various animals, with more exotic ones such as the rhinoceros.



Leather armor is not considered particularly GOOD armor--after all, even well-made leather is lacking in the ability to block a blow from a sword. Leather armor was favored by mobile armies or "barbarian" forces, such as the Celts and the Vikings. Early La-Tene-era Celtic warriors did not wear armor, although nobles occasionally wore chest plates and chain-mail, a Celtic invention, according to the Romans. Later, leather armor, light bronze breast plates, chain shirts and scale armor were employed, although they were typically beyond the means of common warriors.

There are numerous types of leather armor, perhaps the most effective being Lamellar armor.



Wikipedia posted:

Lamellar armor consists of hundreds of small rectangular iron, leather (rawhide), or bronze plates (scales or lamellae) which are pierced in various locations and laced together into horizontal rows to the proper length needed to construct a particular armor item. When the lamellae are made of leather they can be hardened by a process such as cuir bouilli or lacquering. The rows of lamellar armor resemble scale armor, but differ by not needing a cloth or leather backing for the lamellae, and the lamellae are pierced in many more locations. Lamellar armor eventually overtook scale armor in popularity as lamellar restricted the users movements much less than scale armour.

Japanese lamellar armours were made from hundreds or even thousands of individual leather (rawhide) and/or iron scales/lamellae known as kozane, that were lacquered and laced together into armour strips. This was a very time consuming process.[7] The two most common types of scales which made up the Japanese lamellar armours were hon kozane, which were constructed from narrow or small scales/lamellae, and hon iyozane, which were constructed from wider scales/lamellae .

Leather armor is a kind of broad category so we'll keep it brief for the purposes of this posting, but as these games go on, we may revisit this topic for more specific makes and models--like everything in human history, there's a broad variety of leather armors and their forms and functions.

The executioner's hood



The executioner's hood as seen in popular fiction and video games comes from a practice of executioners hiding their faces from the public crowds who witnessed the act. In almost every society (with some degree of exception to contemporary North American society), the executioner was shunned. Some were buried in separate graveyards from the rest of society, while others, like in Japan, were paid handsomely but largely set apart from active social life. It has never been a glorified position.

Wikipedia posted:

The executioner was usually presented with a warrant authorizing or ordering him to execute the sentence. The warrant protects the executioner from the charge of murder. Common terms for executioners derived from forms of capital punishment—though they often also performed other physical punishments—include hangman (hanging) and headsman (beheading). In the military, the role of executioner was performed by a soldier, such as the provost. A common stereotype of an executioner is a hooded medieval or absolutist executioner.

While this task can be an occasional one, it can be carried out in the line of more general duty by an officer of the court, the police, prison staff, or even the military. A special case is the tradition of the Roman fustuarium, continued in forms of running the gauntlet, where the culprit receives his punishment from the hands of the comrades gravely harmed by his crime, e.g. for failing in vital sentinel duty or stealing from a ship's limited food supply.

Many executioners were professional specialists who travelled a circuit or region performing their duty, because executions would rarely be very numerous. Within this region, a resident executioner would also administer non-lethal physical punishments, or apply torture.

The last official executioner of France was a man named Marcel Chevalier.

quote:

Marcel Chevalier (28 February 1921, Montrouge, Hauts-de-Seine – 8 October 2008, Vendôme) worked as the last chief executioner (Monsieur de Paris) in France. He succeeded André Obrecht in 1976 and held his position until 1981, when capital punishment was abolished under president François Mitterrand and justice minister Robert Badinter. The method of application of the death penalty for civil capital offences in France 1791–1981 was beheading with the guillotine. Military executions were by firing squad.

Chevalier, who started his executioner's career in 1958, performed about 40 executions. After his appointment as chief executioner, on 1 October 1976, he executed only two people. They were the last two executions in France:

Jérôme Carrein, condemned twice for the murder and rape of an 8-year-old girl, was guillotined on 23 June 1977 in Douai.

Hamida Djandoubi for having tortured and strangled his former girlfriend was guillotined on 10 September 1977 in Marseilles.

Chevalier worked as a printer subsequent to his retirement. He was married to Marcelle Obrecht, the niece of penultimate chief executioner of France, André Obrecht. They had two children, one of whom, Éric, was present at Carrein's and Djandoubi's executions in order to prepare him for succession to chief executioner upon his father's eventual retirement.

Chevalier was interviewed by the press on a number of occasions, but later, disillusioned by the sensationalist nature of press coverage, chose to say nothing of his experiences with the guillotine.

And finally, here is actual footage from the last public execution by guillotine for those of you with stiffer stomachs. Warning: very NWS, very NMS, actual execution and actual death. You have been warned. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaVe65LWDCI


More to Come.

BottledBodhisvata fucked around with this message at 00:43 on Oct 24, 2014

Meunkin
Sep 11, 2001

puppiespuppiespuppies
Really enjoying the information on armor and weaponry, cool LP!

GOTTA STAY FAI
Mar 24, 2005

~no glitter in the gutter~
~no twilight galaxy~
College Slice
Off to a great start. Demon's Souls is a stellar game that I am terrible at. I'm looking forward to seeing a more skilled player than I am waltz through all the parts that killed me over and over.

Let's boost those strength and magic stats next. The least dangerous enemy is a dead one. Let's get stronger physically and mentally so we can take down bad guys before they get a chance to try to put the hurt on us, whether by smashing their faces in or impaling/roasting/whatever-ing them with magic spells.

jaydee864
Aug 15, 2010

Life is such a drag when the whole world's falling apart
Like what you've got so far, looking forward to more. I appreciate the weapon and armor research you're doing, please continue with that.

GOTTA STAY FAI posted:

Let's boost those strength and magic stats next. The least dangerous enemy is a dead one. Let's get stronger physically and mentally so we can take down bad guys before they get a chance to try to put the hurt on us, whether by smashing their faces in or impaling/roasting/whatever-ing them with magic spells.

Going to second this vote and furthermore vote to switch to the Bastard Sword at your earliest convenience. After all, the best defense is an unrelenting offense.

frozentreasure
Nov 13, 2012

~
Sir Geoffrey, what are you doing? You don't need trinkets on your fingers (right now). Take off those rings!

You may have low health, but if you just upgrade your strength, you can kill everything before that even matters! Truly I have devised the best possible plan.

And if we can also vote on where to go, I say you should go to the shrine of storms and give the enemies there a bit of the ol' razzle dazzle (bareknuckles). If not now, at some point, eventually.

BottledBodhisvata
Jul 26, 2013

by Lowtax
Have another update before we settle into a period of voting and waiting. I'll try to record as soon as I get enough votes to tally, depending on my schedule. Irregular update schedules for now, but I'm gonna try to update as often as possible while I still have plentiful free time.

Episode 4: Sir Geoffrey vs. The Nexus: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYOCquQhgtk

Spells:

Soul Arrow -- Magic Projectile
Flame Toss -- Fire Projectile
Enchant Weapon -- Gives your weapon magical damage
Protection -- Weak Defense Buff
Cloak -- Masks footsteps
Water Veil -- Raises Fire Defense

Miracles:

Heal -- Heals you a little
Antidoe -- Cures poison
Evacuate -- Returns you to the Nexus
Hidden Soul -- Obscures you from Black Phantoms. Largely useless.

Weapons:

Halberd

Audience Participation:

Time to decide where we'll be going first. Will Geoffrey tackle:

The Ancient Shrine?
The Castle Walls?
The Dark Prison?
The Foul Valley?
The Fiery Mine?

GOTTA STAY FAI
Mar 24, 2005

~no glitter in the gutter~
~no twilight galaxy~
College Slice
Our intrepid adventurer should first visit the Shrine of Storms. There are plenty of souls to be collected there, as well as some nice loot.

Make sure you don't pass up the crescent falchion +1, especially if we're going to start learning magic soon :dance:

IGgy IGsen
Apr 11, 2013

"If I lose I will set myself on fire."
I'm gonna go on record here to say that I love the Valley of Defilement even if everyone else hates it but for now I suggest you go to the Towers of Latria aka The Dark Prison because that's the other set of favorite areas I have in the game. No particular reason other than because it seems to be a decent choice as an area to take on now.

poochiepoo
Oct 14, 2013
I would say the knightly thing to do is go to the Valley of Defilement and deal with the filth.

George
Nov 27, 2004

No love for your made-up things.
Only upgrade luck, ever.

BottledBodhisvata
Jul 26, 2013

by Lowtax
A brief update. First thanks for all the feedback thus far, and do keep voting! Voting period will close Wednesday evening! I'll record the episode then and have the next one up by Thursday.

Secondly, let's talk armor...or a lack thereof.

Peasant Clothes

So we picked up the Ragged set in the previous video. Now, actually, we haven't gotten the complete set yet, and there'll be a different armor update for it when we finish it proper. However, at the moment the only meaning this armor set has for us is that it is crap, rotted and full of insects.

Demon Souls Item Description for Ragged Robes posted:

Robe made of layers of ragged fabric. It's covered with tears, unsightly open seams, and numerous unsightly insects wriggling within it. No sane person would dare wear something like this…

Sounds pleasant. So what did actual peasants wear?



Medieval clothes provided information about the status of the person wearing them. The clothing and fashion during the Medieval era of the Middle Ages was dominated and highly influenced by the Kings and Queens of the era. Only the wealthy could dress in fashionable clothes. Sumptuary Laws restricted people in their expenditure including money spent on clothes. The head-dress worn by people during the Middle Ages immediately conveyed the rank of the person.

The Medieval peasant clothing was basic and practical. The dress of the men in the lowest ranks of society was always short and tight, consisting of breeches, or tight drawers, mostly made of leather, of tight tunics or doublets, and of capes or cloaks of coarse brown woollen. The tunic was confined at the waist by a belt, to which the knife, the purse, and sometimes the working tools were suspended.

Now, Sumptuary laws...

Wikipedia posted:

Sumptuary laws are laws that attempt to regulate permitted consumption. Black's Law Dictionary defines them as "Laws made for the purpose of restraining luxury or extravagance, particularly against inordinate expenditures in the matter of apparel, food, furniture, etc."[1] Traditionally, they were laws that regulated and reinforced social hierarchies and morals through restrictions, often depending upon a person's social rank, on permitted clothing, food, and luxury expenditures.

In Elizabethan England Sumptuary Laws were enacted to curtail against excesses, extravagance, and to the purpose of the aforementioned identification of class. One needs to know at a glance who the nobility is and who the nobility is not.

In practice, though, these were laws that were impossible to enforce and rarely were. You could report a neighbor for violating some statute and perhaps they would be fined, but in general these laws were simply there to be there. It's a bit different from the far more harshly enforced laws of dress in Muslim countries, for instance, although the concept is largely the same.

Statutes of Apparel Greenwich, 15 June 1574, 16 Elizabeth I posted:

The excess of apparel and the superfluity of unnecessary foreign wares thereto belonging now of late years is grown by sufferance to such an extremity that the manifest decay of the whole realm generally is like to follow (by bringing into the realm such superfluities of silks, cloths of gold, silver, and other most vain devices of so great cost for the quantity thereof as of necessity the moneys and treasure of the realm is and must be yearly conveyed out of the same to answer the said excess) but also particularly the wasting and undoing of a great number of young gentlemen, otherwise serviceable, and others seeking by show of apparel to be esteemed as gentlemen, who, allured by the vain show of those things, do not only consume themselves, their goods, and lands which their parents left unto them, but also run into such debts and shifts as they cannot live out of danger of laws without attempting unlawful acts, whereby they are not any ways serviceable to their country as otherwise they might be:

Which great abuses, tending both to so manifest a decay of the wealth of the realm and to the ruin of a multitude of serviceable young men and gentlemen and of many good families, the Queen's majesty hath of her own princely wisdom so considered as she hath of late with great charged to her council commanded the same to be presently and speedily remedied both in her own court and in all other places of her realm, according to the sundry good laws heretofore provided.

For reformation whereof, although her highness might take great advantage and profit by execution of the said laws and statutes, yet of her princely clemency her majesty is content at this time to give warning to her loving subjects to reform themselves, and not to extend forthwith the rigor of her laws for the offences heretofore past, so as they shall now reform themselves according to such orders as at this present, jointly with this proclamation, are set forth, whereby the statute of the 24th year of her majesty's most noble father King Henry VIII and the statute made in the second year of her late dear sister Queen Mary are in some part moderated according to this time.
...

None shall wear in his apparel:

Any silk of the color of purple, cloth of gold tissued, nor fur of sables, but only the King, Queen, King's mother, children, brethren, and sisters, uncles and aunts; and except dukes, marquises, and earls, who may wear the same in doublets, jerkins, linings of cloaks, gowns, and hose; and those of the Garter, purple in mantles only.

Cloth of gold, silver, tinseled satin, silk, or cloth mixed or embroidered with any gold or silver: except all degrees above viscounts, and viscounts, barons, and other persons of like degree, in doublets, jerkins, linings of cloaks, gowns, and hose.

...

Note that the Lord Chancellor, Treasurer, President of the council, Privy Seal, may wear any velvet, satin, or other silks except purple, and furs black except black genets.

These may wear as they have heretofore used, viz. any of the King's council, justices of either bench, Barons of the Exchequer, Master of the Rolls, sergeants at law, Masters of the Chancery, of the Queen's council, apprentices of law, physicians of the King, queen, and Prince, mayors and other head officers of any towns corporate, Barons of the Five Ports, except velvet, damask, [or] satin of the color crimson, violet, purple, blue.

Note that her majesty's meaning is not, by this order, to forbid in any person the wearing of silk buttons, the facing of coats, cloaks, hats and caps, for comeliness only, with taffeta, velvet, or other silk, as is commonly used.

Note also that the meaning of this order is not to prohibit a servant from wearing any cognizance of his master, or henchmen, heralds, pursuivants at arms; runners at jousts, tourneys, or such martial feats, and such as wear apparel given them by the Queen, and such as shall have license from the Queen for the same.

...

[Women's Apparel]
None shall wear

Any cloth of gold, tissue, nor fur of sables: except duchesses, marquises, and countesses in their gowns, kirtles, partlets, and sleeves; cloth of gold, silver, tinseled satin, silk, or cloth mixed or embroidered with gold or silver or pearl, saving silk mixed with gold or silver in linings of cowls, partlets, and sleeves: except all degrees above viscountesses, and viscountesses, baronesses, and other personages of like degrees in their kirtles and sleeves.

Velvet (crimson, carnation); furs (black genets, lucerns); embroidery or passment lace of gold or silver: except all degrees above mentioned, the wives of knights of the Garter and of the Privy Council, the ladies and gentlewomen of the privy chamber and bedchamber, and maids of honor.

None shall wear any velvet in gowns, furs of leopards, embroidery of silk: except the degrees and persons above mentioned, the wives of barons' sons, or of knights.

...

[Fines and punishment]

The statute made in the 24th year of King Henry VIII [1533] for the reformation of the abuse of apparel remaining now in force containeth so many articles and clauses as the same cannot be conveniently abridged, but is to be considered by reading and perusing the whole act at large. But the statute lately made in the time of King Philip and Queen Mary [1555], for the execution whereof (as for that which at this time is most necessary) articles and orders be presently devised, followeth here abridged.

No Englishman other than the son and heir apparent of a knight, or he that hath yearly revenues of £20 or is worth in goods £200, shall wear silk in or upon his hat, cap, night cap, girdles, scabbard, hose, shoes, or spur-leathers, upon forfeiture of £10 for every day, and imprisonment by three months.

Justices of Assize and of the peace, sheriffs, stewards in leets, head officers of towns corporate, shall inquire and determine the offenses, and commit the offender to prison till he have paid the forfeiture.

If any, knowing his servant to offend, do not put him out of his service within 14 days; or so put out, retain him again within a year after such offense, he shall forfeit £100.

I still remember getting detentions in Catholic school for having my shirt untucked or being out of uniform...guess some things never change.

BottledBodhisvata fucked around with this message at 04:24 on Oct 8, 2014

BottledBodhisvata
Jul 26, 2013

by Lowtax
Alright so, I'm just gonna say, this is pretty pro-click.

Episode 5: Sir Geoffrey Punches Skeletons: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYP7EnluY7o

Weapons used: No Weapons.
Special parameters: No Rings
Main objective: No Mercy.

Weapons collected:

Falchion
Compound Long Bow
Kilij
Uchigatana
Crescent Falchion

Accessories collected:
Graberobber's Ring
Regeneration Ring

The next update will be a boss battle. Please vote on what weapon we should take to the boss.. Unless the support is overwhelming, we will NOT be using our bare hands, so consult the list up to this point to figure out which flavor of death I'll be serving to the upcoming big nasty.

Also, it is safe to vote on the next area we have available to us and what weaponry Geoffrey will use for it. The list is in the OP.

Dooky Dingo
Feb 17, 2011

Gym badge day is a VERY dangerous day!
Uchigatana. Show the boss the spirit of our glorious Hanzo steel. :japan:

Rigged Death Trap
Feb 13, 2012

BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP

Go for a quality build.
So you can show us most of everything.

frozentreasure
Nov 13, 2012

~
I'm proud of you, Geoffrey. You've shown the world the glory of the backfist. Now take your bastard sword, get in there, and split that boss's stomach in two.

EDIT: Also you should take a drink of water before recording. Few too many throat clears in that.

frozentreasure fucked around with this message at 02:09 on Oct 10, 2014

Iretep
Nov 10, 2009
I believe it's been confirmed by the devs that the shortcut is an unintended one. They just haven't bothered to fix it because there's no reason to.

BottledBodhisvata
Jul 26, 2013

by Lowtax

Rigged Death Trap posted:

Go for a quality build.
So you can show us most of everything.

Could you elaborate slightly on what you mean by this? The definition of a quality build tends to vary from Souls game to Souls game.

frozentreasure posted:

I'm proud of you, Geoffrey. You've shown the world the glory of the backfist. Now take your bastard sword, get in there, and split that boss's stomach in two.

EDIT: Also you should take a drink of water before recording. Few too many throat clears in that.

Yes, a byproduct of recording the commentary late at night, not the best strategy. For some reason my sinuses always like to act up right when I'm about to record commentary. :/

IthilionTheBrave
Sep 5, 2013

BottledBodhisvata posted:

Could you elaborate slightly on what you mean by this? The definition of a quality build tends to vary from Souls game to Souls game.


"Quality build" in this case would refer to keeping balanced Strength and Dexterity stats, as per the stat scaling provided by the Quality upgrade path.

GOTTA STAY FAI
Mar 24, 2005

~no glitter in the gutter~
~no twilight galaxy~
College Slice
Go poke him with the Basterd Swerd :dance:

Rigged Death Trap
Feb 13, 2012

BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP

BottledBodhisvata posted:

Could you elaborate slightly on what you mean by this? The definition of a quality build tends to vary from Souls game to Souls game.

Well a Physical Quality build, where you balance your STR/DEX 50/50 or 40/60 either way and put the rest into life and stamina.
(And enough faith and int for Second Chance and x weapon buffs)

[e:siren:e]:Oh and those are percentages not actual point values.

It's great for versatility, being able to use everything and such.

Rigged Death Trap fucked around with this message at 19:40 on Oct 10, 2014

IGgy IGsen
Apr 11, 2013

"If I lose I will set myself on fire."

BottledBodhisvata posted:

Could you elaborate slightly on what you mean by this? The definition of a quality build tends to vary from Souls game to Souls game.
It actually means exactly the same thing in every Souls game but only makes sense in Demon's Souls due to there being an actual upgrade path called Quality Weapon, which as many have pointed out scales with STR and DEX about equally. It's also why weapons like that are called quality weapons in other Souls games. It's an artifact of Demon's Souls, really.

I'd say go for huge swords in general, eventually the Dragon Bone Smasher, but for now the Bastard Sword seems like a good choice. No shield, though. Shields are for babies.

IGgy IGsen fucked around with this message at 18:30 on Oct 10, 2014

GOTTA STAY FAI
Mar 24, 2005

~no glitter in the gutter~
~no twilight galaxy~
College Slice
That Crescent Falchion +1 Geoff picked up is pretty neato, and derives a bonus from his Magic stat. After taking down this fool with the Bastard Sword, he should switch to it for a while (if we're planning on sticking with the current plan of raising Magic, that is).

frozentreasure
Nov 13, 2012

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GOTTA STAY FAI posted:

That Crescent Falchion +1 Geoff picked up is pretty neato, and derives a bonus from his Magic stat. After taking down this fool with the Bastard Sword, he should switch to it for a while (if we're planning on sticking with the current plan of raising Magic, that is).

Having watched the Giant Bomb LP of Demon's Souls where they did exactly that, I vote for not doing that. Using it gives you zero reason to upgrade your STR or DEX, so you end up dumping so many points into magic that other weapons aren't anywhere near as good and it costs too much to start upgrading the other stats if you ever want to use something else.

BottledBodhisvata
Jul 26, 2013

by Lowtax
Yeah alright, burning the midnight oil, but now this is out and you guys get a few days to vote on our next course of action. Time for Geoffrey to remind us all that he IS a Slayer of Demons.

Episode 6: Sir Geoffrey vs. King Hippo The Adjudicator: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KHbazXM0ZQ

No new weapons
No new rings

It is time to vote on the next stage we visit and the next set of gear we sport. We have a lot of curved blades and a pole arm. We have spells we could buy but no means of casting them.

Our options are:

The Castle Walls
The Dark Prison
The Foul Valley
The Fiery Mine


Voting will close once I get a decent amount of responses, so no set deadline.

Genocyber
Jun 4, 2012

frozentreasure posted:

Having watched the Giant Bomb LP of Demon's Souls where they did exactly that, I vote for not doing that. Using it gives you zero reason to upgrade your STR or DEX, so you end up dumping so many points into magic that other weapons aren't anywhere near as good and it costs too much to start upgrading the other stats if you ever want to use something else.

that's not really true. On account of the game being balanced around you being able to do the worlds in any order, you don't need anywhere near maximum damage with a weapon to do well with it.

I don't care about the gear other than using the Kilij because it is the killage.

Also I vote for world 5.

frozentreasure
Nov 13, 2012

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Geoffrey, didn't Boldwin say something about another blacksmith in Stonefang? Maybe you should go see what he can offer you. Take one of those fancy curved swords along with you; let those fools see what you're capable of.

Genocyber posted:

that's not really true. On account of the game being balanced around you being able to do the worlds in any order, you don't need anywhere near maximum damage with a weapon to do well with it.

Chances are high that I am misinformed because Brad was really bad at the game and everyone who gave input was really bad at building characters, which resulted in him falling on it as a crutch for the entire game and refusing to try anything else.

Miyamoto Musashi
Jul 22, 2006

I agree on going to Stonefang. It's one of my favorite levels. Also, give that Crescent Falchion +1 a try.

IGgy IGsen
Apr 11, 2013

"If I lose I will set myself on fire."
Go for Stonefang. There's a Crushing Battle Axe +1 there right at the beginning. Use that. Going there will also allow you to change your upgrade path of the weapons so you can stick with Quality weapons as long as it's reasonable (assuming that's the build type you're sticking with)
While I'd normally recommend a thrusting weapon for that area the fact that the axe is upgraded a bit already kinda balances that out.

frozentreasure
Nov 13, 2012

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Also, if any fuckwads try to invade you with the Scraping Spear, you give them what for, Geoffrey. Make them regret it.

jaydee864
Aug 15, 2010

Life is such a drag when the whole world's falling apart
I see no reason to disagree with the Stonefang vote, and I would like to see Sir Geoffrey show off the Uchigatana.

GOTTA STAY FAI
Mar 24, 2005

~no glitter in the gutter~
~no twilight galaxy~
College Slice
Geoff should head to Stonefang next, and I'll stick with my previous vote for the Crescent Falchion +1.

edit: Re: WTF is the Adjudicator--The way the bird on his head seems to call out orders (he squawks before every swing), it looks to me like a "brains & brawn" situation. The bird is probably the judge and the jury, and fatass is the executioner :getin:

GOTTA STAY FAI fucked around with this message at 15:45 on Oct 12, 2014

Genocyber
Jun 4, 2012

The bird is the actual demon, which is why you have to hit it to damage the HP bar.

It's some sort of deity thing that was worshipped, that a demon then took the form of when the Old One was revived.

PRL412
Sep 11, 2007

... ... MINE
Voting for Stonefang and upgrading the Kilij.

ThornBrain
Jan 25, 2011

Hi. I forgot your name. Whatever.
My... point is...
Hi. Your head's on fire.
Stonefang and the Crescent Falchion as well from me, though I'm with everyone else who thinks getting attached to it might be a bad idea. Good to keep things fresh from world to world.

BottledBodhisvata
Jul 26, 2013

by Lowtax
A lot of technical issues came up when I was editing this one, so do forgive some of the weird editing hiccups and the occasional commentary issue--it was either manage to patch the drat thing together or scrap the episode entirely. I may patch some things and re-upload it later on, this episode nearly tanked my computer.

Episode 7: Sir Geoffrey and the Search for True Love (director's cut): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JprJwcmOg0M

Weapons found:
Crushing Battle Axe
Pickaxe

BottledBodhisvata fucked around with this message at 08:48 on Oct 18, 2014

Rigged Death Trap
Feb 13, 2012

BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP

Let's let Geoffrey do what he wants this time.
Geoffrey's choice.

frozentreasure
Nov 13, 2012

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Seriously though, that was about 12 minutes more Gardenia than was necessary.

Rigged Death Trap posted:

Let's let Geoffrey do what he wants this time.
Geoffrey's choice.

Geoffrey, you will do no such thing. Pick up a bow, go back to the Boletarian Palace, find a good place to shoot from and kill that dragon!

Or drake, whatever.

IGgy IGsen
Apr 11, 2013

"If I lose I will set myself on fire."

frozentreasure posted:

Seriously though, that was about 12 minutes more Gardenia than was necessary.


Geoffrey, you will do no such thing. Pick up a bow, go back to the Boletarian Palace, find a good place to shoot from and kill that dragon!

Or drake, whatever.

Don't worry, in Demon's Souls they are dragons. It's Dark Souls that went all "dragons are extinct but we really like big flying lizards, so let's call them not-dragons. Or drakes, drakes will work."

And 1-2 is usually the area I go to first because it's still pretty easy even when compared to the first tier areas. Not a big fan of Stonefang Tunnels myself, but I like all the other areas. Towers of Latria being my favorite, so I vote we go there next.

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BottledBodhisvata
Jul 26, 2013

by Lowtax

frozentreasure posted:

Seriously though, that was about 12 minutes more Gardenia than was necessary.

I'd originally had commentary over that portion to explain in some detail stuff I'd missed or hadn't noticed (for instance, that wall you can hop over to get a vantage point on those dreglings by the stables, I hadn't noticed that, the Dregling merchant, and how you can kill the dragon with a bow). Technical difficulties cost me that commentary and some footage too. Fear not, the next update will be all Geoffrey, all the time--and the next Gardenia update will be a lot more interesting.

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