PLAYOFFS? YOU KIDDING ME? PLAYOFFS? (2014 Playoff/Bowl Chat)

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Real Name Grover: Feb 13, 2002; Like corn on the cob; Fan of Britches

HOTLANTA MAN posted:

E: as long as it isn't loving Michigan State or Nebraska again

I believe the Big 10 or powers that be or whomever have changed the selection protocols so repeat destinations will be avoided.

Nobody here is really talking about bowl games yet, thank gently caress, but it sounds like we're headed to the Holiday (as Koop projected) if we beat Iowa and either the Music City or San Francisco (which apparently was renamed the Foster Farms Bowl last week) if we lose.

I'm kind of hoping for the Music City Bowl, because it kicks in the middle of the afternoon on the 30th and I want to see how my employer will react.

# ? Nov 24, 2014 22:18

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# ? Apr 24, 2024 08:46

seiferguy: Jun 9, 2005; FLAWED
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Is there anywhere that ranks the prestige of each bowl? I'm not sure if it's better for UW to play in the Armed Forces Bowl or the Las Vegas Bowl. Also, I hope the prestige of the Bitcoin Bowl varies wildly.

# ? Nov 24, 2014 22:57

BI NOW GAY LATER: Jan 17, 2008; So people stop asking, the "Bi" in my username is a reference to my love for the two greatest collegiate sports programs in the world, the Virginia Tech Hokies and the Marshall Thundering Herd.

seiferguy posted:

Is there anywhere that ranks the prestige of each bowl? I'm not sure if it's better for UW to play in the Armed Forces Bowl or the Las Vegas Bowl. Also, I hope the prestige of the Bitcoin Bowl varies wildly.

You could figure it out by the money, but the Las Vegas Bowl is a way better bowl.

# ? Nov 24, 2014 23:01

pillsburysoldier: Feb 11, 2008; Yo, peep that shit

HOTLANTA MAN posted:

I go to the Chick-Fil-A Bowl every year because tickets are inexpensive and it's right down the road, so this matchup would be hype as hell.

E: as long as it isn't loving Michigan State or Nebraska again

Its actually a grudge rematch between Wake and VT

# ? Nov 24, 2014 23:09

Pakled: Aug 6, 2011; WE ARE SMART

seiferguy posted:

Is there anywhere that ranks the prestige of each bowl? I'm not sure if it's better for UW to play in the Armed Forces Bowl or the Las Vegas Bowl. Also, I hope the prestige of the Bitcoin Bowl varies wildly.

You can probably go by this list sorted by "Most Recent Per Team Payout" descending and it'll give you a pretty good idea.

# ? Nov 24, 2014 23:26

Tank44: Jun 13, 2005; We want the ball & We're going to score

seiferguy posted:

Is there anywhere that ranks the prestige of each bowl? I'm not sure if it's better for UW to play in the Armed Forces Bowl or the Las Vegas Bowl. Also, I hope the prestige of the Bitcoin Bowl varies wildly.

UW is currently pegged to play likely in either the Las Vegas or Cactus Bowl (in Tempe). Pac12 has a pretty set sequence for #1 team, #2 team, etc. This largely will depend on if Pac12 gets 2 Access/playoff bowl teams and how the bowls see the teams as a draw. UW probably will not go back to SF for the Foster Farms Bowl since they were there last season. There also may either be a push FOR or against the Peterson vs Boise State game since that's on the schedule for next season.

Option 1: Oregon & UCLA/ASU/AZ makes access bowls
Alamo/Holiday - take the other 2 from UCLA/ASU/AZ
Sun/Foster Farms - USC & Utah
Vegas/Cactus - Stanford & UW

Option 2: Only 1 access bowl team (probbaly Oregon)
Alamo/Holiday/Sun - UCLA/ASU/AZ
Foster Farms/Vegas - USC & Utah
Cactus & somewhere else - Stanford & UW

I'm looking into this too for IF UW plays in Vegas, I'd like to go AND the Seahawks play in Arizona on Sunday. Nice nearby doubleheader. Airfare is only ~$200 now whereas the Vegas bowl 2 years ago airfare was over $500.

# ? Nov 24, 2014 23:28

Top Hats Monthly: Jun 22, 2011; People are people so why should it be, that you and I should get along so awfully blink blink recall STOP IT YOU POSH LITTLE SHIT

Hypothetical: Minnesota beats Wisconsin, beats Ohio State, B1G Champ. What bowl would they play in?

# ? Nov 25, 2014 02:06

Edward Mass: Sep 14, 2011; 𝅘𝅥𝅮 I wanna go home with the armadillo
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http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8624387/six-bowls-pool-college-football-semifinal-games posted:

If the Big Ten or SEC champion is available for a non-playoff bowl in a year when the Rose and Sugar Bowls are hosting semifinals, that team will appear in either the Cotton Bowl, Fiesta Bowl, or Peach Bowl, but not the Orange Bowl.

# ? Nov 25, 2014 02:14

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

Ghost of Reagan Past posted:

I approve of that Alamo Bowl.

Mike Stoops, come out to play-ay...

Same.

Fiesta Bowl guys got to be praying they can pick UCLA or one of the Arizona schools about now because I have a feeling that is going to bomb from a ticket sales perspective.

# ? Nov 25, 2014 17:26

BI NOW GAY LATER: Jan 17, 2008; So people stop asking, the "Bi" in my username is a reference to my love for the two greatest collegiate sports programs in the world, the Virginia Tech Hokies and the Marshall Thundering Herd.

Rick posted:

Same.

Fiesta Bowl guys got to be praying they can pick UCLA or one of the Arizona schools about now because I have a feeling that is going to bomb from a ticket sales perspective.

Fiesta Bowl basically never sells out and mostly gives its tickets away.

# ? Nov 25, 2014 17:51

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

BI NOW GAY LATER posted:

Fiesta Bowl basically never sells out and mostly gives its tickets away.

See, I knew that ~~Insight~~Cactus Bowl (Tempe) was a disaster, but I just assumed the Fiesta Bowl did well, but now that you point it out it sort of makes sense. Especially now that it's in Glendale. At least if it's in Tempe you might attract some people looking for something to do while visiting family or whatever, but a game an hour away from where people live seems like a tough sell

# ? Nov 25, 2014 18:24

BI NOW GAY LATER: Jan 17, 2008; So people stop asking, the "Bi" in my username is a reference to my love for the two greatest collegiate sports programs in the world, the Virginia Tech Hokies and the Marshall Thundering Herd.

Just a note for the OP on the SEC bowls, the conference largely picks who goes where. I still think the Texas Bowl is going to be Lone Star Showdown, Liberty WVU/Tennessee and Belk SCar and Duke.

# ? Nov 26, 2014 02:42

Sash!: Mar 16, 2001

I know the Big Ten is doing things a little different than the old days of #1 goes here, #2 goes here, etc. nowadays. Have they said anything about how and when they'll actually be distributing the teams?

# ? Nov 26, 2014 03:04

BI NOW GAY LATER: Jan 17, 2008; So people stop asking, the "Bi" in my username is a reference to my love for the two greatest collegiate sports programs in the world, the Virginia Tech Hokies and the Marshall Thundering Herd.

Sash! posted:

I know the Big Ten is doing things a little different than the old days of #1 goes here, #2 goes here, etc. nowadays. Have they said anything about how and when they'll actually be distributing the teams?

My guess is like basically every other major conference now, they'll sort it out once the Playoff and Access bowls are set. They want to be able to help teams out with travel costs and stuff but they'll also work with the bowls to make sure its not a terrible match up.

# ? Nov 26, 2014 03:06

Top Hats Monthly: Jun 22, 2011; People are people so why should it be, that you and I should get along so awfully blink blink recall STOP IT YOU POSH LITTLE SHIT

Wondering where Minnesota falls

# ? Nov 30, 2014 03:41

C. Everett Koop: Aug 18, 2008

skaboomizzy posted:

Pitt somehow beat Miami tonight to get to 6-6. One of their wins is against FCS Delaware, but I know they get to count one of those every couple of years. That makes 11 ACC teams eligible plus Notre Dame (I think? Not sure how that works). Last year Pitt was 6-6 with a win over Old Dominion who I think was a transition team so I don't know if that burned their FCS win for this year.

So is Pitt eligible for a bowl this year? For extra credit, which bowl are they likely to land in? Please show your work.

At 6-6 they're eligible, since you can count one FCS win but not two (unless you get a waiver and we're not giving those out this year). There's 11 ACC teams eligible along with Notre Dame, who goes along with the ACC's selection package.

Barring an upset, FSU will take a slot in the playoff which raises everyone else. We go into the ACC's bowl ties of which they have ten. First up is the Orange Bowl, an Access this year which takes 10-3 Georgia Tech. After that we have three teams at 9-3 (Clemson, Duke, Louisville) and the Russell Athletic next in the picking order, who takes Clemson.

Now, from there we have four bowls considered in the same level (Belk/Pinstripe/Music City or Tax Slayer/Sun). With the new agreement the ACC takes the Tax Slayer as an ACC team hasn't played there and sends Louisville. Duke stays close to home in the Belk.

Now it's the 7-5 teams with Notre Dame, NC State and Boston College. The Irish have a large NYC fanbase and history of playing in Yankee Stadium, even though they went to the Pinstripe last year they'll make a return appearance. Sun is the last of this tier, and with the Military next in the order it's easier to get to DC from Raleigh than Boston, so BC heads to El Paso and the Sun while State goes to the Military.

Now we have four teams at 6-6 and three bowls to place them. VT/UNC/Miami/Pitt for the Duck Commander/Quick Lane/BITCOIN bowls. No one really wants to to go Shreveport, but they take the biggest duck on the pond in Virginia Tech, with potentially Frank Beamer's last game as a draw. Pitt is the closest team to Detroit, so I think you head out to Murder City and the Quick Lane bowl. It's down to UNC and Miami for the BITCOIN bowl, and the Heels will always be taken care of by the conference so they head to St. Pete and Miami is left to find a free bowl.

Now, the ACC has a rule where you can jump a team that's ahead of you in the standings, so any of the 6-6 teams can jump a 7-5 team. Virginia Tech could go to the Military and sent NC State to Shreveport, for example.

So if I had to guess, right now I'd say you're looking at Detroit and the Quick Lane Bowl. But Shreveport and St. Pete are in play, and there's a chance you'll be thrown into the wild and have to fill an empty slot. You will make a bowl, since even if we have more teams than bowls Power 5 teams will be taken over the Mid-Majors every time.

# ? Nov 30, 2014 09:13

a neat cape: Feb 22, 2007; Aw hunny, these came out GREAT!

SDSU is likely headed to the Poinsettia Bowl to play Navy.

The last time this happened, San Diego flooded.

a neat cape fucked around with this message at 12:29 on Nov 30, 2014

# ? Nov 30, 2014 12:22

SpiritualDeath: Jul 2, 2009; shaping your brain like pottery

So, Fresno State is 6-6 going into the MWCCG against Boise State. If/when they lose that game, at 6-7, will they be treated the same way 2011 UCLA and 2012 Georgia Tech were? Does the lower standing of the conference and the fact that Fresno isn't filling in for a sanctioned true division winner make any difference in this case?

# ? Nov 30, 2014 12:28

Basil Hayden: Oct 9, 2012; 1921!

SpiritualDeath posted:

So, Fresno State is 6-6 going into the MWCCG against Boise State. If/when they lose that game, at 6-7, will they be treated the same way 2011 UCLA and 2012 Georgia Tech were? Does the lower standing of the conference and the fact that Fresno isn't filling in for a sanctioned true division winner make any difference in this case?

The current bowl eligibility procedures treat a 6-7 team as a 6-6 team in the case where loss #7 comes in a conference title game, no waivers required. I don't know if a barely-eligible MWC team would actually manage to get one of the conference's bowl slots (some conferences are set up so that this is guaranteed) or if they'd be dumped into the wild, but win or lose Fresno is bowl eligible.

E: Actually it looks like the MWC will have enough bowl contracts for bowl-eligible teams so it'll probably be fine.

Basil Hayden fucked around with this message at 17:22 on Nov 30, 2014

# ? Nov 30, 2014 14:36

chaoslord: Jan 28, 2009; Nature Abhors A Vacuum

I cannot stress enough how badly I want Arkansas to play Texas. September 11, 2021 is too dang long to wait.

# ? Nov 30, 2014 16:52

skaboomizzy: Nov 12, 2003; There is nothing I want to be. There is nothing I want to do.
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C. Everett Koop posted:

At 6-6 they're eligible, since you can count one FCS win but not two (unless you get a waiver and we're not giving those out this year). There's 11 ACC teams eligible along with Notre Dame, who goes along with the ACC's selection package.

Barring an upset, FSU will take a slot in the playoff which raises everyone else. We go into the ACC's bowl ties of which they have ten. First up is the Orange Bowl, an Access this year which takes 10-3 Georgia Tech. After that we have three teams at 9-3 (Clemson, Duke, Louisville) and the Russell Athletic next in the picking order, who takes Clemson.

Now, from there we have four bowls considered in the same level (Belk/Pinstripe/Music City or Tax Slayer/Sun). With the new agreement the ACC takes the Tax Slayer as an ACC team hasn't played there and sends Louisville. Duke stays close to home in the Belk.

Now it's the 7-5 teams with Notre Dame, NC State and Boston College. The Irish have a large NYC fanbase and history of playing in Yankee Stadium, even though they went to the Pinstripe last year they'll make a return appearance. Sun is the last of this tier, and with the Military next in the order it's easier to get to DC from Raleigh than Boston, so BC heads to El Paso and the Sun while State goes to the Military.

Now we have four teams at 6-6 and three bowls to place them. VT/UNC/Miami/Pitt for the Duck Commander/Quick Lane/BITCOIN bowls. No one really wants to to go Shreveport, but they take the biggest duck on the pond in Virginia Tech, with potentially Frank Beamer's last game as a draw. Pitt is the closest team to Detroit, so I think you head out to Murder City and the Quick Lane bowl. It's down to UNC and Miami for the BITCOIN bowl, and the Heels will always be taken care of by the conference so they head to St. Pete and Miami is left to find a free bowl.

Now, the ACC has a rule where you can jump a team that's ahead of you in the standings, so any of the 6-6 teams can jump a 7-5 team. Virginia Tech could go to the Military and sent NC State to Shreveport, for example.

So if I had to guess, right now I'd say you're looking at Detroit and the Quick Lane Bowl. But Shreveport and St. Pete are in play, and there's a chance you'll be thrown into the wild and have to fill an empty slot. You will make a bowl, since even if we have more teams than bowls Power 5 teams will be taken over the Mid-Majors every time.

Brilliant, and thank you. I'm kinda hoping Pitt ends up in the Bitcoin bowl so I can go see them, but it sounds like they'll probably take Miami.

# ? Nov 30, 2014 18:44

mastershakeman: Oct 28, 2008; by vyelkin

What bowl will Illinois most likely go to?

# ? Nov 30, 2014 19:33

BI NOW GAY LATER: Jan 17, 2008; So people stop asking, the "Bi" in my username is a reference to my love for the two greatest collegiate sports programs in the world, the Virginia Tech Hokies and the Marshall Thundering Herd.

Pitt doesn't travel at all, see: three straight years in the mobile shithole bowl.

Also, for you:

chaoslord posted:

I cannot stress enough how badly I want Arkansas to play Texas. September 11, 2021 is too dang long to wait.

The chances of the Texas Bowl not taking a made for tv match up in Texas/Aggie are astounding.

# ? Nov 30, 2014 21:15

C. Everett Koop: Aug 18, 2008

BI NOW GAY LATER posted:

The chances of the Texas Bowl not taking a made for tv match up in Texas/Aggie are astounding.

The schools need to cooperate and there's a slim to none chance of that happening. Texas v. LSU/Arkansas is most likely.

# ? Nov 30, 2014 21:20

computer parts: Nov 18, 2010; PLEASE CLAP

C. Everett Koop posted:

The schools need to cooperate and there's a slim to none chance of that happening. Texas v. LSU/Arkansas is most likely.

Yeah, I don't think A&M wants a matchup now and I think Texas is still kind of sour about them leaving.

# ? Nov 30, 2014 23:21

C. Everett Koop: Aug 18, 2008

Week 14: The SEC is so bad it killed UAB

Legend: Bold = bowl eligible Italics = projected eligible ~~strike = bowl ineligible~~

ACC

Atlantic

pre:

Florida State      (Seminoles, 8-0, 12-0)        GT     (8-0, 13-0)
Clemson            (Tigers, 6-2, 9-3)                   (6-2, 9-3)
Louisville         (Cardinals, 5-3, 9-3)                (5-3, 9-3)
Boston College     (Eagles, 4-4, 7-5)                   (4-4, 7-5)
NC State           (Wolfpack, 3-5, 7-5)                 (3-5, 7-5)
Syracuse           (Orange, 1-7, 3-9)                   (1-7, 3-9)
Wake Forest        (Demon Deacons, 1-7, 3-9)            (1-7, 3-9)

FSU once again does just enough to win, but I can't see them being lowered behind whoever jumps into the Playoff. GT on a short week will be tough and if Jameis is intent on throwing the ball to the wrong team as many times as possible an upset is possible.

Coastal

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Georgia Tech       (Yellow Jackets, 6-2, 10-2)     FSU     (6-2, 10-3) 
Duke               (Blue Devils, 5-3, 9-3)                 (5-3, 9-3)
North Carolina     (Tar Heels, 4-4, 6-6)                   (4-4, 6-6)
Pittsburgh         (Panthers, 4-4, 6-6)                    (4-4, 6-6)
Miami              (Hurricanes, 3-5, 6-6)                  (3-5, 6-6)
Virginia Tech      (Hokies, 3-5, 6-6)                      (3-5, 6-6)
Virginia           (Cavaliers, 3-5, 5-7)                   (3-5, 5-7)

Operation 4-4 ends up with two teams, UNC and Pitt, playing along. Georgia Tech's all but booked themselves into the Orange Bowl with their upset of Georgia. Pitt and VT end up becoming eligible, and it's going to be interesting to see who gets left out in the wild from the ACC's bowl eligible teams.

pre:

Notre Dame (Fighting Irish, 7-5)     (7-5)

Notre Dame didn't want to play in the Russell Athletic Bowl either. They're on a complete freefall right now, but with name value and a willingness to play in NYC they'll have a reasonably soft landing.

ACC Projected Bowl Teams (12): FSU, Georgia Tech, Clemson, Louisville, Duke, Notre Dame, Boston College, NC State, North Carolina, Pitt, Miami, Virginia Tech
ACC Projected Playoff Contenders: Florida State
ACC Projected Access Contenders: Georgia Tech

Big Ten

East

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Ohio State      (Buckeyes, 8-0, 11-1)           WISC     (8-0, 12-1)
Michigan State  (Spartans, 7-1, 10-2)                    (7-1, 10-2)
Maryland        (Terapins, 4-4, 7-5)                     (4-4, 7-5)
Rutgers         (Scarlet Knights, 3-5, 7-5)              (3-5, 7-5)
Michigan        (Wolverines, 3-5, 5-7)                   (3-5, 5-7)
Penn State      (Nittany Lions, 2-6, 6-6)                (2-6, 6-6)
Indiana         (Hoosiers, 1-7, 4-8)                     (1-7, 4-8)]

Ohio State's going to be on the outside looking in without even more help. Had Auburn beat Alabama I could have seen the committee giving them a shot, but with Bama winning and losing another QB Buckeye needs to dominate and get help from the Big 12. Sparty's looking like an Access Bowl is in their future. Michigan pays Hoke his weight in butterburgers and tells him to hit the bricks. Penn State's also in a free fall but they're eligible and will draw.

West

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Wisconsin      (Badgers, 7-1, 10-2)           OHST     (7-1, 10-2)
Minnesota      (Golden Gophers, 5-2, 8-3)              (5-3, 8-4)
Nebraska       (Huskers, 5-3, 9-3)                     (5-3, 9-3)
Iowa           (Hawkeyes, 4-4, 7-5)                    (4-4, 7-5)
Illinois       (Fightin� Illini, 3-5, 6-6)             (3-5, 6-6)
Northwestern   (Wildcats, 3-5, 5-7)                    (4-4, 6-6)
Purdue         (Boilermakers, 1-7, 3-9)                (1-7, 3-9)

Wisconsin wins and has a good shot of winning next week and giving the Big Ten three teams in the Access Bowls. Nebraska firing Pelini is going to hurt their profile as teams with interim/lame duck coaches aren't attractive, but with Husker's batshit fanbase who knows. Illinois gets in and Northwestern doesn't and somehow that's the worst case scenario for both schools.

Big Ten Projected Bowl Teams (10): Ohio State, Wisconsin, Michigan State, Nebraska, Minnesota, Iowa, Maryland, Rutgers, Penn State, Illinois
Big Ten Projected Playoff Contenders: Ohio State
Big Ten Projected Access Contenders: Wisconsin, Michigan State

Big 12

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Baylor           (Bears, 7-1, 10-1)            KST      (8-1, 11-1)
TCU              (Horned Frogs, 7-1, 10-1)     ISU      (8-1, 11-1)
Kansas State     (Wildcats, 7-1, 9-2)          @BAY     (7-2, 9-3)
Oklahoma         (Sooners, 5-3, 8-3)           OKST     (6-3, 9-3)
Texas            (Longhorns, 5-4, 6-6)                  (5-4, 6-6)
West Virginia    (Mountaineers, 5-4, 7-5)               (5-4, 7-5)
Oklahoma State   (Cowboys, 3-5, 5-6)           @OK      (3-6, 5-7)
Texas Tech       (Red Raiders, 2-7, 4-8)                (2-7, 4-8)
Kansas           (Jayhawks, 1-8, 3-9)                   (1-8, 3-9)
Iowa State       (Cyclones, 0-8, 2-9)          @TCU     (0-9, 2-10)

TCU squashes Texas and has essentially made their case to the Committee, unless they drop another 80 points on poor Iowa State. Baylor's got a good foe in K-State, but after struggling against Texas Tech they're got their work cut out for them. I like either TCU or Baylor over Ohio State provided one of the two win, but if both do I don't even the Committee having to put one in and one out.

Big 12 Projected Bowl Teams (6): TCU, Baylor, Kansas State, Oklahoma, West Virginia, Texas
Big 12 Projected Playoff Contenders: Baylor, TCU
Big 12 Projected Access Contenders: None

Pac-12

North

pre:

Oregon             (Ducks, 8-1, 11-1)           ARIZ     (8-1, 12-1)
Stanford           (Cardinal, 5-4, 7-5)                  (4-5, 6-6)
Washington         (Huskies, 4-5, 8-5)                   (4-5, 8-5)
California         (Golden Bears, 3-6, 5-7)              (3-6, 5-7)
Oregon State       (Beavers, 2-7, 5-7)                   (2-7, 5-7)
Washington State   (Cougars, 2-7, 3-9)                   (2-7, 3-9)

Oregon gets their least favored opponent with Arizona having claimed the only L on the Ducks record. Cal loses to BYU and misses a bowl.

South

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Arizona         (Wildcats, 7-2, 10-2)      ORE     (7-2, 10-3)
UCLA            (Bruins, 6-3, 9-3)                 (7-2, 10-3)
Arizona State   (Sun Devils, 6-3, 9-3)             (6-3, 9-3)
USC             (Trojans, 6-3, 8-4)                (6-3, 8-4)
Utah            (Utes, 5-4, 8-4)                   (5-4, 8-4)
Colorado        (Buffaloes, 0-9, 2-10)             (0-9, 2-10)

Ok UCLA hadn't won the division last week and managed to lose to Stanford and not win the division. Arizona's win sets them up for at least the Fiesta Bowl, and potentially the Playoff if they beat Oregon again. USC knocking off Notre Dame somewhat helps their profile.

Pac-12 Projected Bowl Teams (8): Oregon, Arizona, UCLA, Arizona State, USC, Stanford, Utah, Washington
Pac-12 Projected Playoff Teams: Oregon
Pac-12 Projected Access Teams: Arizona

SEC

East

pre:

Missouri         (Tigers, 7-1, 10-2)        BAMA     (7-1, 10-3)
Georgia          (Bulldogs, 6-2, 9-3)                (6-2, 9-3)
Florida          (Gators, 4-4, 6-5)                  (4-4, 6-5)
South Carolina   (Gamecocks, 3-5, 6-6)               (3-5, 6-6)
Tennessee        (Volunteers, 3-5, 6-6)              (3-5, 6-6)
Kentucky         (Wildcats, 2-6, 5-7)                (2-6, 5-7)
Vanderbilt       (Commodores, 0-8, 3-9)              (0-8, 3-9)

Mizzou beat Bama and gives the SEC a bad matchup in the SEC Title game. Missouri would be a contender had they not lost to Indiana, which is such a bad loss it's killed any and all respect for Missou. Georgia's loss to GT knocks them out of the Peach Bowl. All in all, a bad day for the SEC East.

West

pre:

Alabama             (Crimson Tide, 7-1, 11-1)     MIZZ     (7-1, 12-1) 
Mississippi State   (Bulldogs, 6-2, 10-2)                  (6-2, 10-2)
Ole Miss            (Rebels, 5-3, 9-3)                     (5-3, 9-3)
Auburn              (Tigers, 4-4, 8-4)                     (4-4, 8-4)
LSU                 (Tigers, 4-4, 8-4)                     (4-4, 8-4)
Texas A&M           (Aggies, 3-5, 7-5)                     (3-5, 7-5)
Arkansas            (Razorbacks, 2-6, 6-6)                 (2-6, 6-6)

Bama rallies to win the Iron Bowl and save the SEC from complete and total embarrassment. Ole Miss wins the Egg Bowl and knocks #CLANGA out of the Playoff, but at 10 wins Cowbell will most likely head to the Peach. The whole division is still eligible, which is an accomplishment, but it's also a sign they ate themselves alive and there's real consideration to the idea that the SEC has fallen from their lofty perch.

SEC Projected Bowl Teams (12): Alabama, Mississippi State, Missouri, Ole Miss, Georgia, Auburn, LSU, Texas A&M, Florida, Arkansas, South Carolina, Tennessee
SEC Projected Playoff Teams: Alabama
SEC Projected Contract Teams: Miss State

American

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Memphis           (Tigers, 7-1, 9-3)                            (7-1, 9-3)
UCF               (Knights, 6-1, 8-3)               @ECU        (7-1, 9-3)
Cincinnati        (Bearkats, 6-1, 8-3)              HOU         (7-1, 9-3)
East Carolina     (Pirates, 5-2, 8-3)               UCF         (6-2, 9-3)
Houston           (Cougars, 5-2, 7-4)               @CIN        (5-3, 7-5)
Temple            (Owls, 3-4, 5-6)                  @TULANE     (4-4, 6-6)
South Florida     (Bulls, 3-5, 4-8)                             (3-5, 4-8)
Tulane            (Green Wave, 2-5, 3-8)            TEMPLE      (2-6, 3-9)
Tulsa             (Golden Hurricane, 2-6, 2-10)                 (2-6, 3-9)
Connecticut       (Huskies, 1-6, 2-9)               SMU         (2-6, 4-8)
SMU               (Mustangs, 0-7, 0-11)             @UCONN      (0-8, 0-12)

Memphis claims a share of the 'Murica title and most likely sits in the catbird seat if Boise loses. Temple needs to beat Tulane to give the conference a sixth team. SMU's suffering is almost over and help is on the way.

American Projected Bowl Teams (6): Memphis, UCF, Cincinnati, East Carolina, Houston, Temple
American Projected Access Teams: None

Conference USA

East

pre:

Marshall                   (Thundering Herd, 7-1, 11-1)     LATECH     (7-1, 12-1)
Middle Tennessee State     (Blue Raiders, 5-3, 6-6)                    (5-3, 6-6)
Western Kentucky           (Hilltoppers, 4-4, 7-5)                     (4-4, 7-5)
UAB                        (Blazers, 4-4, 6-6)                         (4-4, 6-6)
Old Dominion               (Monarchs, 4-4, 6-6)                        (4-4, 6-6)
FIU                        (Golden Panthers, 3-5, 4-8)                 (3-5, 4-8)
FAU                        (Owls, 2-6, 3-9)                            (2-6, 3-9)

Marshall finally makes it into the Top 25 and proceeded to poo poo themselves against WKU, which knocks the Herd out of contention. But that pales to what's happening to UAB, and though that talk belongs in the Aftermath thread and it might get its own thread, I don't see a team that's on death's door being picked to play a bowl game, if they don't outright refuse bids. It's a loving shame, but I think UAB's played their last football game.

West

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Louisiana Tech   (Bulldogs, 7-1, 8-4)          MAR     (7-1, 8-4)
Rice             (Owls, 5-3, 7-5)                      (5-3, 7-5)
UTEP             (Miners, 5-3, 7-5)                    (5-3, 7-5)
UTSA             (Roadrunners, 3-5, 4-8)               (3-5, 4-8)
North Texas      (Mean Green, 2-6, 4-8)                (1-7, 3-9)
Southern Miss    (Golden Eagles, 1-7, 3-9)             (1-7, 3-9)

LaTech beats the hell out of Rice and claims the West title and we'll see if they can keep up that effort against Marshall. Other than that par for the course in the West.

C-USA Projected Bowl Teams (8): Marshall, Louisiana Tech, Rice, UTEP, Western Kentucky, Middle Tennessee, Old Dominion, UAB
C-USA Projected Access Teams: None

MAC

East

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Bowling Green     (Falcons, 5-3, 7-5)            NIU     (5-3, 7-6)
Ohio              (Bobcats, 4-4, 6-6)                    (4-4, 6-6)
Buffalo           (Bulls, 3-4, 5-6)                      (3-4, 5-6)
Akron             (Zips, 3-5, 5-7)                       (4-4, 6-6)
Massachussets     (Minutemen, 3-5, 3-9)                  (3-5, 3-9)
Miami             (Redhawks, 2-6, 2-10)                  (2-6, 2-10)
Kent State        (Golden Flashes, 1-6, 2-9)             (1-6, 2-9)

Bowling Green loses but still claims the division. Ohio's the only other team that's eligible after Kent State upsets Akron. What a dogshit division.

West

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Northern Illinois     (Huskies, 7-1, 10-2)      BG       (7-1, 11-2)
Toledo                (Rockets, 7-1, 8-4)                (7-1, 8-4)
Western Michigan      (Broncos, 6-2, 8-4)                (6-2, 8-4)
Central Michigan      (Chippewas, 5-3, 7-5)              (5-3, 7-5)
Ball State            (Cardinals, 4-4, 5-7)              (2-2, 5-7)
Eastern Michigan      (Eagles, 1-7, 2-10)                (1-7, 3-9)

NIU beats WMU and wins the West, will most likely win the MAC again and at 11-2 they might be the Access Bowl rep if Boise loses and the Committee likes them more than Memphis. At six teams eligible all should go bowling.

MAC Projected Bowl Teams (6): Northern Illinois, Toledo, Western Michigan, Bowling Green, Central Michigan, Ohio
MAC Projected Access Teams: None

Mountain West

Mountain

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Boise State        (Broncos, 7-1, 10-2)     SDST     (7-1, 11-2)
Colorado State     (Rams, 6-2, 10-2)                 (6-2, 10-2)
Utah State         (Aggies, 6-2, 9-4)                (6-2, 9-4)
Air Force          (Falcons, 5-3, 9-3)               (5-3, 9-3)
New Mexico         (Lobos, 2-6, 4-8)                 (2-6, 4-8)
Wyoming            (Buffaloes, 2-6, 4-8)             (2-6, 4-8)

Boise wins, CSU doesn't and Boise's in a win and in situation for an Access Bowl, most likely the Fiesta again.

West

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Fresno State        (Bulldogs, 5-3, 6-6)             BOISE     (5-3, 6-7)
San Diego State     (Aztecs, 5-3, 7-5)                         (5-3, 7-5)
Nevada              (Wolfpack, 4-4, 7-5)                       (4-4, 7-5)
Hawai�i             (Rainbow Warriors, 3-5, 4-9)               (3-5, 4-9)
San Jose State      (Spartans, 2-6, 3-9)                       (2-6, 3-9)
UNLV                (Rebels, 1-7, 2-11)                        (1-7, 2-11)

Fresno wins and claims the West, even if they lose to Boise they'll get a waiver at 6-7 because of where the 7th loss took place (Conference championship game), but it'll be a matter of finding a home for them. If UAB can get rid of football, it might be a possibility for UNLV if they can't get their ducks all in a row.

MWC Projected Bowl Teams (7): Boise State, Colorado State, Air Force, Utah State, San Diego State, Nevada, Fresno State
MWC Projected Access Teams: Boise State

Sun Belt

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Georgia Southern        (Golden Eagles, 8-0, 9-3)     (8-0, 9-3)
Louisiana-Lafayette     (Rajun� Cajuns, 7-1, 8-4)     (7-1, 8-4)
Appalachian State       (Mountaineers, 6-2, 7-5)      (6-2, 7-5)
South Alabama           (Jaguars, 5-3, 6-6)           (5-3, 6-6)
Arkansas State          (Red Wolves, 5-3, 7-5)        (5-3, 7-5)
Texas State             (Bobcats, 5-3, 7-5)           (5-3, 7-5)
Louisiana-Monroe        (Warhawks, 3-5, 4-8)          (3-5, 4-8)
Troy                    (Trojans, 3-5, 3-9)           (3-5, 5-7)
New Mexico State        (Aggies, 1-7, 2-10)           (1-7, 2-10)
Idaho                   (Vandals, 1-7, 1-10)          (1-7, 1-10)
Georgia State           (Panthers, 0-8, 1-11)         (0-8, 1-11)

In their first year in FBS play, Georgia Southern and App State go a combined 14-2 in conference play with Georgia Southern winning the Fun Belt outright, 16-8 overall, and would be bowl eligible if not for the transfer rule. Either the elite of FCS are better than we think (and with NDSU's success that may be the possibility) or the Fun Belt is really bad y'all. Just four teams going bowling, but with three slots Texas State could be in trouble.

Sun Belt Projected Bowl Teams (4): Louisiana-Lafayette, South Alabama, Arkansas State, Texas State
Sun Belt Projected Access Teams: None

Independents

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BYU      (Cougars, 8-4)                    (7-5)
Navy     (Midshipmen, 6-5)        ARMY     (7-5)
Army     (Black Knights, 4-7)     NAVY     (4-8)

BYU upsets Cal to keep the Bears from a bowl, while Navy knocks off South Alabama and are now headed to the Poinsettia Bowl. Army/Navy should be fun.

Independent Projected Bowl Teams (2): BYU, Navy
Independent Projected Access Teams: None

Number of Bowl Slots: 76
Number of Projected Bowl Teams: 81 - 12 (ACC, SEC), 10 (Big Ten), 8 (Pac-12, C-USA), 7 (MWC), 6 (Big 12, American, MAC), 4 (Sun Belt), 2 (Indep)

CFB Playoffs

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Rose             1/1      Pasadena, California       Semifinal     TCU vs. Oregon
Sugar            1/1      New Orleans, Louisiana     Semifinal     Florida State vs. Alabama
Championship     1/12     Arlington, Texas           Final         Rose Winner vs. Sugar Winner

Mississippi State's loss knocks them out of the Playoff and it becomes a battle between TCU, Ohio State and Baylor. TCU has the best current win with a thrashing of Texas, but their last game against Iowa State is a "nothing to gain everything to lose" type situation. Ohio State completes another unbeaten season in the Big Ten, but go into the B1GCG on their third-string quarterback and are currently up in the air. Baylor struggled to beat Texas Tech, but have a good matchup against K-State to gain another quality win and make their case as Big 12 Champs. I see the order being Bama/Oregon/FSU in the top 3 and we'll worry about the mental gymnastics to get better regional matchups next week. TCU slides into four and the last Playoff slot, Ohio State sits at 5 and Baylor at 6, and those last three aren't in stone at all. Next week will be interesting.

Access Bowls

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Orange     12/31     Miami, Florida        ACC 1 vs. SEC/B1G/ND      Georgia Tech vs. Ohio State
Peach      12/31     Atlanta, Georgia      At-Large vs. At-Large     Mississippi State vs. Michigan State 
Fiesta     12/31     Glendale, Arizona     At-Large vs. At-Large     Arizona vs. Boise State 
Cotton     1/1       Arlington, Texas      At-Large vs. At-Large     Baylor vs. Wisconsin

A complete shakeup from last week. At 10 wins Georgia Tech takes the ACC's spot in the Orange Bowl. I didn't realize that the Orange is obligated to take the highest ranked SEC/B1G/ND team that doesn't make the Playoff, and as such Ohio State makes a return trip. #CLANGA falls from the Playoff to the Peach Bowl, where they'll face Sparty. Arizona wins the Pac-12 South and heads to the Fiesta if they don't beat Oregon and make the Playoff itself. Boise wins the MWC and the Group of 5 Access Bowl spot practically by default. Baylor stays in state as the Big 12 Champs, where Wisconsin gives the Big Ten the most teams in Playoff/Access Bowls with three. I could go on a huge troll spree about how the south and SEC is worthless at football and how the Big Ten is where real men play football and dammit if you don't run up the middle for three yards like your daddy did and his daddy did then you're a worthless sissy boy and the forward pass is for Communists and if you don't live in Ohio just loving kill yourself, but I won't.

The rest of the bowls.

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R+L Carriers New Orleans 12/20 New Orleans, Louisiana Sun Belt vs. MWC Louisiana-Lafayette vs. Fresno State
Gildan New Mexico 12/20 Albuquerque, New Mexico MWC vs. C-USA San Diego State vs. UTEP
Royal Purple Las Vegas 12/20 Las Vegas, Nevada MWC vs. Pac-12 Colorado State vs. Utah
Famous Idaho Potato 12/20 Boise, Idaho MAC vs. MWC Bowling Green vs. Nevada
Raycom Media Camellia 12/20 Montgomery, Alabama MAC vs. Sun Belt Western Michigan vs. Arkansas State
Miami Beach 12/22 Miami, Florida AAC vs. BYU East Carolina vs. BYU
Boca Raton 12/23 Boca Raton, Florida C-USA vs. MAC Marshall vs. Toledo
San Diego County Credit Union Poinsettia 12/23 San Diego, California MWC vs. Navy Utah State vs. Navy
Popeyes Bahamas 12/24 Nassau, Bahamas C-USA vs. MAC Temple vs. Western Kentucky
Hawai'i 12/24 Honolulu, Hawai�i C-USA vs. MWC Rice vs. Air Force
Heart of Dallas 12/26 Dallas, Texas Big Ten vs. C-USA Florida vs. Louisiana Tech
Quick Lane 12/26 Detroit, Michigan ACC vs. Big Ten North Carolina vs. Illinois
BITCOIN St. Petersburg 12/26 St. Petersburg, Florida AAC vs. ACC UCF vs. Miami
Military 12/27 Annapolis, Maryland AAC vs. ACC Memphis vs. Virginia Tech
Hyundai Sun 12/27 El Paso, Texas ACC vs. Pac-12 Boston College vs. Stanford
Duck Commander Independence 12/27 Shreveport, Louisiana ACC vs. SEC NC State vs. Tennessee
New Era Pinstripe 12/27 Bronx, New York ACC vs. Big Ten Notre Dame vs. Rutgers
National University Holiday 12/27 San Diego, California Big Ten vs. Pac-12 Nebraska vs. Arizona State
AutoZone Liberty 12/29 Memphis, Tennessee Big 12 vs. SEC West Virginia vs. Texas A&M
Russell Athletic 12/29 Orlando, Florida ACC vs. Big 12 Clemson vs. Kansas State
AdvoCare V100 Texas 12/29 Houston, Texas Big 12 vs. SEC Texas vs. LSU
Franklin American Mortgage Music City 12/30 Nashville, Tennessee SEC vs. ACC/Big Ten Auburn vs. Maryland
Belk 12/30 Charlotte, North Carolina ACC vs. SEC Duke vs. South Carolina
San Francisco 12/30 Santa Clara, California Big Ten vs. Pac-12 Penn State vs. USC
Citrus 1/1 Orlando, Florida Big Ten vs. SEC Minnesota vs. Ole Miss
Outback 1/1 Tampa, Florida Big Ten vs. SEC Iowa vs. Missouri
Lockheed Martin Armed Forces 1/2 Fort Worth, Texas AAC vs. Army Houston vs. Pitt
TaxSlayer Gator 1/2 Jacksonville, Florida SEC vs. ACC/Big Ten Georgia vs. Louisville
Valero Alamo 1/2 San Antonio, Texas Big 12 vs. Pac-12 Oklahoma vs. UCLA
Cactus 1/2 Tempe, Arizona Big 12 vs. Pac-12 Ohio vs. Washington
Birmingham 1/3 Birmingham, Alabama AAC vs. SEC Cincinnati vs. Arkansas
GoDaddy 1/4 Mobile, Alabama MAC vs. Sun Belt Northern Illinois vs. South Alabama

We're down a team and we're definitely going to be over with only Temple and Okie Lite being on the fence. From C-USA Middle Tennessee, Old Dominion, UAB get left home, Central Michigan gets dicked over once again as Ohio heads to Tempe, and Texas State can't compete with Pitt and Florida filling in bowl slots.

C. Everett Koop fucked around with this message at 01:39 on Dec 7, 2014

# ? Nov 30, 2014 23:40

HOTLANTA MAN: Jul 4, 2010; by Hand Knit; Lipstick Apathy

Oh boy another gator bowl

# ? Dec 1, 2014 01:51

African AIDS cum: Feb 29, 2012; Welcome back, welcome back, welcome baaaack

OP you're doing great work here

# ? Dec 1, 2014 02:01

NotQuiteQuentin: Jan 29, 2005; BIG OVER; College Slice

bitcoin is the most miami of currencies so of course we're going to play in that bowl

# ? Dec 1, 2014 02:51

BI NOW GAY LATER: Jan 17, 2008; So people stop asking, the "Bi" in my username is a reference to my love for the two greatest collegiate sports programs in the world, the Virginia Tech Hokies and the Marshall Thundering Herd.

C. Everett Koop posted:

The schools need to cooperate and there's a slim to none chance of that happening. Texas v. LSU/Arkansas is most likely.

The schools actually have very little say in what bowl game they go to. The conference and the bowls mostly make the decision, though the Big XII won't completely piss off Texas.

BI NOW GAY LATER fucked around with this message at 04:26 on Dec 1, 2014

# ? Dec 1, 2014 04:24

alpha_destroy: Mar 23, 2010; Billy Butler: Fat Guy by Day, Doubles Machine by Night

Ugh... Not Iowa, I still have flashbacks of the Insight Bowl. :argh:

Gabbert!

# ? Dec 1, 2014 04:42

Sash!: Mar 16, 2001

The San Francisco Bowl is still a thing?

# ? Dec 1, 2014 05:07

B.F. Hoodrich: May 16, 2006; welp

alpha_destroy posted:

Ugh... Not Iowa, I still have flashbacks of the Insight Bowl. Gabbert!

this Iowa team makes 2010 Iowa look like the 2013 Seahawks, I wouldn't be too worried

# ? Dec 1, 2014 05:17

Henchman of Santa: Aug 21, 2010

Sash! posted:

The San Francisco Bowl is still a thing?

It's actually the Foster Farms Bowl now. Formerly it was the Kraft Fight Hunger Bowl and the Emerald Bowl before that.

# ? Dec 1, 2014 05:20

chaoslord: Jan 28, 2009; Nature Abhors A Vacuum

BI NOW GAY LATER posted:

Pitt doesn't travel at all, see: three straight years in the mobile shithole bowl.

Also, for you:

The chances of the Texas Bowl not taking a made for tv match up in Texas/Aggie are astounding.

With the SEC controlling things, I really don't think they'll send A&M. The Aggies are the new darling of the SEC and they wouldn't want them to have a chance to lose to a big rival. I think they'd be more than happy to send Arkansas. If we lose, no big deal, conference brand won't take a hit because it's just Arkansas. A win, though, would be huge to our fanbase because we still see Texas as our old rival even though I think most of the Longhorn fanbase has moved on. It's no risk/high reward from the big wigs viewpoint to send the Hogs.

We will see soon enough though, I'm just happy to be going bowling.

# ? Dec 1, 2014 05:26

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# ? Apr 24, 2024 08:46

illcendiary: Dec 4, 2005; Damn, this is good coffee.

Can someone fill me in as to why there's so no chance that Texas/Texas A&M would want to play one another?

# ? Dec 1, 2014 05:28

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