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mookface posted:Because a sense of purpose gives life meaning and value. Ive been a slovenly sad sack in the past and trust me the alternative is much more rewarding. Success is not necessarily becoming wealthy, but finding what you're passionate about and sharing that life with others if you want to okay my passion is being a stay at home dad to two beautiful children but my wife and i can't have kids, ill never be able to afford to quit my job because my wife will never be able to make as much as me and were barely scraping by as is, and shell probably be disabled from multiple sclerosis within the next decade because we can't afford medical care for her please find the inherent beauty or whatever the gently caress yr on about in this situation tia
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mookface posted:I build processing plants for big oil companies Your passion sucks.
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mookface posted:I build processing plants for big oil companies gently caress, i guess i would delude myself too
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darkwing cuck posted:okay my passion is being a stay at home dad to two beautiful children your life is hosed and there isn't "inherent" beauty in anything, beauty requires a certain active perspective of which you are not capable because you have been crippled by material circumstances
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mookface posted:I build processing plants for big oil companies lol your passion is raping this gay earth.
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Oct 7, 2014 00:02
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nomadologique posted:your life is hosed and there isn't "inherent" beauty in anything, beauty requires a certain active perspective of which you are not capable because you have been crippled by material circumstances i think this is more or less my point, yeah
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there could technically be beauty in the way you form that passion in to something else that represents the lack of ability to express that specific desire otherwise, like baking a really good cake or building a canoe. Life isnt really about optimality in anything, despite the focus on rationality and optimization presented by various aspects of society.
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I don't think he's asking for optimal anything, he's just having trouble getting past the smashed dreams of how he thought his life would be.
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Oct 7, 2014 00:12
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redshirt posted:I did. P. deep amirite? Lao Tzu the Goon ya its chill
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Oct 7, 2014 00:15
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that's a badass op you're badass op
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Oct 7, 2014 00:17
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darkwing cuck posted:i think this is more or less my point, yeah there are, however, other people who are not you who have really lovely things happen in their lives and keep a good attitude, so the "material circumstances" by which you are crippled include your own personal makeup and constitution i am not judging you and you are not "less" because of it there is no inherent doom
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Costello Jello posted:I don't think he's asking for optimal anything, he's just having trouble getting past the smashed dreams of how he thought his life would be. i just get really tired of hearing people talk about the kind of vacuous bull poo poo that mookface is spewing. "find yr passion and pursue it!" okay, there's a handful of things im passionate about and i dont have the means or ability to pursue any of them but thanks for the advice i guess?
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my main point was that having preferences can quickly become problematic. making decisions kind of sucks until you stop caring? unless its about the kind of beer THEN BEG STEAL OR DO WHATEVER FOR THE UNIBROUE GOON RESERVE 14 edit: is there any consolation in philosophy? #boethius #flappycappedignatius
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Oct 7, 2014 00:25
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lot of depressed ppl up itt, not a surprise i suppose...
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Oct 7, 2014 00:26
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SA is full of sadbrains The internet in general is, really
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Oct 7, 2014 00:27
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like you can talk northman, congenitally depressed
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mookface posted:I build processing plants for big oil companies ... i think you'd be less worthless as a women's studies major actually
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Oct 7, 2014 00:32
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Tautologicus posted:Lao Tzu the Goon Actually I stole the gist from some Buddhist parable I don't remember yet I recall that line about clouds and puddles.
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you can blame your ego, without it you'd have offed yourself years ago, or have become a monk, could go either way that's why americans think they're smart and awesome to use a generic example, because they know they aren't, it's like safe mode for your brain
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the reflection of the moon on a still pool is the go-to image of the mind in buddhism
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tt needs nietzsche
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it's why the gross chick down the hall wears pants that say hot on the butt
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nomadologique posted:tt needs nietzsche why is nietzsche worth reading? ivr always vaguely considered reading him but never git around to it
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Oct 7, 2014 00:39
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Thomas Carlisle posted:My friend, brag not yet of our American cousins! Their quantity of cotton, dollars, industry and resources, I believe to be almost unspeakable; but I can by no means worship the like of these. What great human soul, what great thought, what great noble thing that one could worship, or loyally admire, has yet been produced there? None: the American cousins have yet done none of these things. he foretold of the sweatpants, far too sweaty underneath their advertisement of temperature nietzsche was a word smith, kind of like kanye, except less crazy
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mookface posted:I build processing plants for big oil companies your job is basically the equivalent of being the head engineer of the death star
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Oct 7, 2014 00:41
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Zzulu posted:SA is full of sadbrains corrected
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nomadologique posted:the reflection of the moon on a still pool is the go-to image of the mind in buddhism Ya i forgot..man. Not just the cloud/moon but its reflection. Two steps back. Thats how deep into the poo poo we've dug.
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darkwing cuck posted:why is nietzsche worth reading? ivr always vaguely considered reading him but never git around to it Father of modern philosophy. Witty. Lots of short bits that import meaning.
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Flailing at shadows
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Nietzsche was also very polemic, which is a trait quite lacking these days or ever. He was a rare dude. He had the fire. Thats why he is worth reading. He wanted to knock what you thought to bits and build you back up again. He had a scalpel in one hand and a sledgehammer in the other.
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darkwing cuck posted:i just get really tired of hearing people talk about the kind of vacuous bull poo poo that mookface is spewing. "find yr passion and pursue it!" okay, there's a handful of things im passionate about and i dont have the means or ability to pursue any of them but thanks for the advice i guess? Or the cost of pursuing the passions are extremely high and costly to people you love. Like divorcing your wife over something she can't control, like her MS, and getting out of dodge and pursuing a new life. A possible choice, but also a really destructive one in a lot of ways.
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oh poo poo gorillas! posted:corrected Yeah people are just more honest on the internet.
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are you telling me you wouldnt be happy at some tech company wearing a onesie suit flailing in a ball pit with a craft IPA
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Ping pong and foosball.
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You can leave it all behind..youre never stuck. Unless youre a quadripeligic or something. Phone posting on a walk thats when i get my thoughts sry
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lower your expectation, up your happiness
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Tautologicus posted:You can leave it all behind..youre never stuck. The Taoist votes for telling your loving sick wife to gently caress off, darkwing cuck.
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My uncle has stayed with his wife with debiliating Lymes disease ever since she got sick (30 years ago)..she cant work or go anywhere for very long..i dont think he regrets it, but you know. And that was a general comment before. And i could never get married due to the lack of freedom so i am biased there
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The Hissing Butt posted:... I enjoy the job too and the life it provides
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But i would also never abandon a member of my family in need. In fact thats why im home and not anywhere else in the world
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