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A Tin Of Beans posted:What I want to know is, if they're apparently not mutants ... how were they never tested for the X-gene or whatever? Did no one bother doing that ever, for real? Do you really want to be the person to try and stick Wanda? Sramaker posted:So in other words they made an even dumber retcon of a dumb retcon? Eh, it's really more a DealingwithFox101.txt remember we had a lawsuit over the use of the word mutant and each side wanting to use the two characters.
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gfanikf posted:Do you really want to be the person to try and stick Wanda? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sJRkj9DP9Y
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Shawn posted:Pretty sure Pietro losing his powers was psychological like Iceman he got them back in the Quick and the Dead by believing in himself. Which is a lovely explanation of that comic which was actually really good. Don't worry I'm sure there's a terrible explanation coming up where he'll have really just got his powers back from when he mutated himself with the Terrigan Mists, technically making him an Inhuman.
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I guess all those times Sentinels detected them as mutants were just glitches in the system.
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Waterhaul posted:Don't worry I'm sure there's a terrible explanation coming up where he'll have really just got his powers back from when he mutated himself with the Terrigan Mists, technically making him an Inhuman. Eh works for me.
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Lurdiak posted:I guess all those times Sentinels detected them as mutants were just glitches in the system. Their inhuman power is that they have the X-Gene.
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Lurdiak posted:I guess all those times Sentinels detected them as mutants were just glitches in the system. Sentinels have always been stupidly bad at their jobs.
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If they turn out to be non-mutants does that make Magneto's Brotherhood more progressively inclusive of non-mutants than Xavier's X-Men?
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SirDan3k posted:Sentinels have always been stupidly bad at their jobs. They're the ED-209s of the Marvel universe.
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wizardstick posted:If they turn out to be non-mutants does that make Magneto's Brotherhood more progressively inclusive of non-mutants than Xavier's X-Men?
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irlZaphod posted:The X-Men have included Longshot, who isn't a mutant. Also Warlock, if we count the New Mutants. There was also Mimic.
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What you're implying is now what I consider the canonical reason for Y the last man. No more sticking!
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irlZaphod posted:The X-Men have included Longshot, who isn't a mutant. Also Warlock, if we count the New Mutants. Warlock is a mutant with the mutant power of friendliness and empathy which isn't normal in his race.
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The Inhumans were a pretty tiny population until recently, right? Probably a large degree of consanguinity there? My point is, Luna's parents are probably cousins. It's the creeping Ultimization of the 616!
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Ponsonby Britt posted:The Inhumans were a pretty tiny population until recently, right? Probably a large degree of consanguinity there? My point is, Luna's parents are probably cousins. It's the creeping Ultimization of the 616!
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Does that estimate include the... oh what are they called... Alpha... humanites?
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Alpha Primitives. Probably not.
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Aren't those guys like guys that fail to respond to Terrigen or something?
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Lurdiak posted:Aren't those guys like guys that fail to respond to Terrigen or something? They don't fail to respond. Instead of becoming unique they become a drone as part of a hive mind essentially. It's like you go into a cocoon and you either come out a butterfly or a bee. Inhuman society thinks being a bee is bad so they get thrown into the caverns to become a worker for the betterment of the butterflies. A bit of an oversimplification perhaps, but I haven't read everything ever written about them.
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PaybackJack posted:They don't fail to respond. Instead of becoming unique they become a drone as part of a hive mind essentially. It's like you go into a cocoon and you either come out a butterfly or a bee. Inhuman society thinks being a bee is bad so they get thrown into the caverns to become a worker for the betterment of the butterflies. A bit of an oversimplification perhaps, but I haven't read everything ever written about them. I think the Alpha Primitives aren't brought up much anymore. It's a little tricky to tell the story of a bunch of heroes if they are also a bunch of creepy racists who keep anyone who's not as capable of them in their collective basement as slaves.
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"I'm married to my cousin and everything you've seen was built by slaves. Aren't we cool, you new guys should totally join u.....guys? Guys?!"
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rkajdi posted:I think the Alpha Primitives aren't brought up much anymore. It's a little tricky to tell the story of a bunch of heroes if they are also a bunch of creepy racists who keep anyone who's not as capable of them in their collective basement as slaves. Agents of Shield just turned one of its secondary characters into an Alpha Primitive (though it seems they're working on a story where they get him back to himself. Maybe even happened already) so heeere we go. Inhumans are just creepier than mutants. There's a lot of creepy stuff there.
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Nobby posted:Agents of Shield just turned one of its secondary characters into an Alpha Primitive (though it seems they're working on a story where they get him back to himself. Maybe even happened already) so heeere we go. Inhumans are just creepier than mutants. There's a lot of creepy stuff there. You know, I didn't even make the Alpha Primitive connection in Agents of SHIELD until you made it. And of course they chose to do it to one of the black guys. It's not like there's not a bunch of baggage there or something.
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rkajdi posted:You know, I didn't even make the Alpha Primitive connection in Agents of SHIELD until you made it. And of course they chose to do it to one of the black guys. It's not like there's not a bunch of baggage there or something. I think it was more he was on another tv show.
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bobkatt013 posted:I think it was more he was on another tv show. You're actually think of Triplett, who they just up and killed. Mack was the one turned into an Alpha Primitive.
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notthegoatseguy posted:You're actually think of Triplett, who they just up and killed. Mack was the one turned into an Alpha Primitive. The last scene made it seem like ones the mist hit, he was back to normal.
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bobkatt013 posted:The last scene made it seem like ones the mist hit, he was back to normal. In an interview that was either posted in BSS TV or the TV IV thread, the show's producers really say pretty clearly Triplett was killed. But it probably wasn't the mist that killed him, but the shard of crystal going through him. VVV Oops my bad. notthegoatseguy fucked around with this message at 02:47 on Dec 15, 2014 |
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notthegoatseguy posted:In an interview that was either posted in BSS TV or the TV IV thread, the show's producers really say pretty clearly Triplett was killed. But it probably wasn't the mist that killed him, but the shard of crystal going through him. I know that. That comment was about Mack.
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notthegoatseguy posted:You're actually think of Triplett, who they just up and killed. Mack was the one turned into an Alpha Primitive. I thought Mack was a lighter skinned black guy.
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Well Axis Carnage ended on a stupid note.
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Is Axis almost over? It feels like nothing has actually happened and the event has meandered around pointlessly. I guess the purpose is to shoehorn in some retcons or something?
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It' doesn't even seem to be retcons it's literally the Scarlet Witch going "gently caress you dad we are Inhumans now and you aren't our dad anymore." What do you call it when a reality warper changes stuff? Retwarps? Warpcons?
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SirDan3k posted:What do you call it when a reality warper changes stuff? Retwarps? Warpcons?
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Spiderdrake posted:I guess you could say she bendis reality to her whims? This isn't even a slow descent into garbage writing like Bendis. This is someone (to me anyway) coming off of great runs from Uncanny X-Force and Venom, and pretty good runs with Punisher and Secret Avengers, to writing mundane boring stories (at best) or writing complete, absolute garbage at worst. Is there some Marvel Event curse where good writers just turn into bad writers? I guess I'll just go drown myself in hobopiss.
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Spiderdrake posted:I guess you could say she bendis reality to her whims? I call it bullshit.
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I was making a pun  notthegoatseguy posted:Is there some Marvel Event curse where good writers just turn into bad writers?
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Spiderdrake posted:I was making a pun Whoops i was trying to quote SirDan3k posted:It' doesn't even seem to be retcons it's literally the Scarlet Witch going "gently caress you dad we are Inhumans now and you aren't our dad anymore."
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Spiderdrake posted:I was making a pun Wait doesn't that have Hitler Lincoln fight and Cap beating the poo poo out of Assange? God I really need to read that since I have MU now.
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Nobby posted:Agents of Shield just turned one of its secondary characters into an Alpha Primitive Eh, that really seems like a stretch from anything we saw on screen. He wasn't even exposed to the crystal.
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Spiderdrake posted:I was making a pun Might be because event books are overladen with edicts, people deciding for you, compromises and lists of what you can't do, making it not much fun to write.
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